The studio set was redone in color in 1967, although if my memory serves me correct, the nighttime "TTTT" went color in the Fall of 1965 and the daytime version followed in 1966.
@altfactor The prime time version was only in color for the last season (1966-'67) while the daytime version went to color on January 1, 1967 I believe.
I also remember seeing "THE CBS AFTERNOON NEWS WITH DOUGLAS EDWARDS" at 3:25pm(et), right after "TO TELL THE TRUTH"...but it's probably not on this video copy.
@fromthesidelines Yes, and that was why the daytime TTTT only had two games as opposed to three for the prime time version. The daytime version was only 25 minutes to accommodate Douglas Edwards, who did a five-minute news update at 3:25 PM ET/PT in those days (when most stations only did newscasts at 6:00 and 11:00 PM, 24 hour cable networks didn't exist and morning news was nothing like it is now).
I have seen people become very hostile when their favorite programs are pre-empted by sporting or news events. I know my grandmother looked forward to her soaps every day...which is why I can well imagine the uproar in some homes on that day in 1967 when someone's afternoon favorite "To Tell The Truth" was taken off in favor of some football game.
One of the best preserved pieces of 1960s color videotape I have seen on YouTube. Seeing this makes me even more disappointed that Goodson-Todmann did not preserve any of the 1966-1967 color videotapes of What's My Line?
Actually, there are a considerable number of color daytime eps that exist-- and the final daytime ep was shown on GSN on New Years Eve, 1999, as part of their Y2K special.
Also . . . interesting how, in the end credits, Gil Fates is credited as executive producer . . . while he opted to keep all episodes of the 1950-67 CBS "What's My Line?" as B&W kinescopes, regardless of whether they were live or videotaped. On that show, virtually all videotapes (B&W pre-1966 and color in its final season) were erased and the tapes reused.
@wmbrown6 That wasn't a Fates practice, That was a Goodson-Todman practice. It was cheaper to keep the black and white kinescopes than it was to keep the color ones. Even though other panel shows were created by others, Gil Fates was executive producer because of his success of What's My Line?.
I was checking some CBS listings for 11/23/67; "TTTT" couldn't have been shown that day because CBS was televising the Detroit Lions' traditional Thanksgiving Day game [they hosted the then-L.A. Rams], so it had to have been shown the day before.
There also would have been a theme music change to go with the brightened-up Ron Baldwin set design, but I suppose that didn't come until early '68, months before "TTTT" ended its CBS run.
No, I'm afraid the show numbering indicates this was indeed broadcast on Thursday, the 23rd-- though from the sound of it, it appears only the certain time zones may have seen it.
Also, you didn't get to see Game One, where Bud and the central contestant make several references regarding that day's Thanksgiving Day holiday. Finally, at the end of the show, Bud says "We won't see you tomorrow [Friday], but Art Linkletter will be here with a very special program... see you Monday!"
The LA-DET game started at noon on Thanksgiving and TTTT aired at 3:00pm. NFL games back then ran quicker than what they do now, so it is very possible that the NFL game was finished before TTTT's timeslot.
Not to mention that Tom Poston was initially still part of the "TTTT" panel at the time of this set change, before he was fired by the network and replaced per Fred Silverman's meddling.
Did anyone notice the magenta-tinted "overscan" on the edges of the frame on the opening closeup of Mr. Collyer? Not as evident as the "overscan" on B&W cameras used in the past, but still noticeable if you see the picture in full.
Bert Convy would replace Poston. Silverman also replaced the music with the gawd-awful harpsicord theme.
It was fortunate that TTT finally went off in 1968. I understand that Silverman was ready to replace Collyer with Convy. Example: Robert Q. Lewis always filled in for Collyer when he went on vacation in the later years.
The last time Collyer went on vacation, Lewis was on the panel, but Convy hosted for Collyer.
@wmbrown6 Yes, Silverman HATED game shows, even when they were successful...like many, he felt they didn't bring in the "right" audience demographics to maximize ad revenues.
Giving the devil his due...when he dumped three NBC games in 1980, it WAS for David Letterman's first talk show.
@byrd56 This could easily have aired after football in the east (or in between games since the Cowboys hosted the late game, which usually was a 4:00 PM ET kickoff and at that time was also on CBS every year) since I believe then kickoff for the Lions game was at noon and at that time in particular, games rarely ran over three hours. It likely did air opposite college football (which was MUCH bigger than the NFL in those days) on ABC.
"A town that is considered to be the turkey capitol of the world"...Washington, D.C.?
Love Tom Poston's reference to Henry Morgan's triumph (seen on the Feb 18 1963 clip found here).
tomservo56954 2 months ago
Back then, did Betty White kind of resemble both Ann Landers and Dear Abby, who were identical twins?
rls0411 7 months ago
the daytime TTTT left the air on Sept.6,1968.
saml760 8 months ago
The studio set was redone in color in 1967, although if my memory serves me correct, the nighttime "TTTT" went color in the Fall of 1965 and the daytime version followed in 1966.
altfactor 8 months ago
@altfactor The prime time version was only in color for the last season (1966-'67) while the daytime version went to color on January 1, 1967 I believe.
WaltGekko 8 months ago
I also remember seeing "THE CBS AFTERNOON NEWS WITH DOUGLAS EDWARDS" at 3:25pm(et), right after "TO TELL THE TRUTH"...but it's probably not on this video copy.
fromthesidelines 11 months ago
@fromthesidelines Yes, and that was why the daytime TTTT only had two games as opposed to three for the prime time version. The daytime version was only 25 minutes to accommodate Douglas Edwards, who did a five-minute news update at 3:25 PM ET/PT in those days (when most stations only did newscasts at 6:00 and 11:00 PM, 24 hour cable networks didn't exist and morning news was nothing like it is now).
WaltGekko 8 months ago
All you GEEKS are talking about the technology, color video, etc. What about those legs on Number 1 ?! WOW! And she's pretty, too!
Okay, resume geek-talk!
msk7046 11 months ago
I have seen people become very hostile when their favorite programs are pre-empted by sporting or news events. I know my grandmother looked forward to her soaps every day...which is why I can well imagine the uproar in some homes on that day in 1967 when someone's afternoon favorite "To Tell The Truth" was taken off in favor of some football game.
RichHartley19671 1 year ago
Where did the producers and directors taped this Color episode of"To Tell The Truth"?
143AC 1 year ago
One of the best preserved pieces of 1960s color videotape I have seen on YouTube. Seeing this makes me even more disappointed that Goodson-Todmann did not preserve any of the 1966-1967 color videotapes of What's My Line?
soulierinvestments 1 year ago
@soulierinvestments Rumor has it the final episode does exist in color, but it's locked away somewhere. I cannot confirm any of this however.
someguy23475 1 year ago
@someguy23475
Actually, there are a considerable number of color daytime eps that exist-- and the final daytime ep was shown on GSN on New Years Eve, 1999, as part of their Y2K special.
philofarnsworth 1 year ago
@philofarnsworth I was talking about WML in that last post. I have the 1968 TTTT finale on tape from said marathon.
someguy23475 1 year ago
Was this the Ed Sullivan Theater, Hudson Theater, or Studio 54? The acoustics sounds like one of big old theaters. Anyone know?
jellyneck40 1 year ago
@jellyneck40 Ed Sullivan Theater.
kevinvanmeter 1 year ago
Tom Poston gave up acting in the early 1980s and became a maintenance man in a small inn in Vermont.
catholicpriest1 1 year ago
Cool to see this in color.
catholicpriest1 1 year ago
I chose #3... Before the reveal! BETYYYYY!!!
PatrioticPirate 1 year ago 2
@PatrioticPirate So did I...I thought she gave the best answers.
tomservo56954 2 months ago
Excellent video quality, great work! And the famous football player/Snickers advocate to boot! Wow, she was an attractive young lady!
Watersmith53 2 years ago
@Watersmith53 No...even then she was an attractive middle-aged lady.
tomservo56954 2 months ago
Either way, I was only 10 years old back then, and at a brand new school as well.
nanlisa 2 years ago
I didn't know they changed the set before the final theme song was introduced. I always thought they went hand in hand.
someguy23475 2 years ago
where can i get the rest of this show?I just happen to see it on my BlackBerry,while working late last night.Very cool find.Thanks
mooncrab 2 years ago
Amazing quality on this video. I never ever saw the 60's TTTT like this.
Freenbean 2 years ago
Also . . . interesting how, in the end credits, Gil Fates is credited as executive producer . . . while he opted to keep all episodes of the 1950-67 CBS "What's My Line?" as B&W kinescopes, regardless of whether they were live or videotaped. On that show, virtually all videotapes (B&W pre-1966 and color in its final season) were erased and the tapes reused.
wmbrown6 2 years ago
@wmbrown6 That wasn't a Fates practice, That was a Goodson-Todman practice. It was cheaper to keep the black and white kinescopes than it was to keep the color ones. Even though other panel shows were created by others, Gil Fates was executive producer because of his success of What's My Line?.
jimlange 2 years ago
The quality of this is remarkable, not just the show but to see a 1967 commercial on color videotape!
brithgob 2 years ago
Just in time for Thanksgiving!
heine71 2 years ago 3
Audience shot shows TTTT was taped at the Ed Sullivan theater on what is David Letterman's stage today!
DesiluTrek 2 years ago
considering how short the skirts were.. I hope that didn't have the thermostat down as low as they have it for Letterman's show
joebradio 2 years ago
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This episode was aired November 22, 1967 JTLYK but I'm not sure if GSN aired this episode though.
Ivoryman1986 2 years ago
Actually, it was 11/23/67-- this episode aired on Thanksgiving Day of that year.
philofarnsworth 2 years ago
I was checking some CBS listings for 11/23/67; "TTTT" couldn't have been shown that day because CBS was televising the Detroit Lions' traditional Thanksgiving Day game [they hosted the then-L.A. Rams], so it had to have been shown the day before.
There also would have been a theme music change to go with the brightened-up Ron Baldwin set design, but I suppose that didn't come until early '68, months before "TTTT" ended its CBS run.
Awesome celebrity imposters, too.
byrd56 2 years ago 2
No, I'm afraid the show numbering indicates this was indeed broadcast on Thursday, the 23rd-- though from the sound of it, it appears only the certain time zones may have seen it.
Also, you didn't get to see Game One, where Bud and the central contestant make several references regarding that day's Thanksgiving Day holiday. Finally, at the end of the show, Bud says "We won't see you tomorrow [Friday], but Art Linkletter will be here with a very special program... see you Monday!"
philofarnsworth 2 years ago
@philofarnsworth So, by your response, you indeed have this enture episode of "To Tell The Truth."
Where did you obtain this, and others of this very hard-to-obtain daytime network TV programming?
Are they from the collectors' market, or did you work at a TV network or station? Or is this a state secret?
gymnastix 3 months ago
The LA-DET game started at noon on Thanksgiving and TTTT aired at 3:00pm. NFL games back then ran quicker than what they do now, so it is very possible that the NFL game was finished before TTTT's timeslot.
BottleCapIN 2 years ago
Or at the very least, when that day's "TTTT" started, it was joined "already in progress."
wmbrown6 2 years ago
Not to mention that Tom Poston was initially still part of the "TTTT" panel at the time of this set change, before he was fired by the network and replaced per Fred Silverman's meddling.
Did anyone notice the magenta-tinted "overscan" on the edges of the frame on the opening closeup of Mr. Collyer? Not as evident as the "overscan" on B&W cameras used in the past, but still noticeable if you see the picture in full.
wmbrown6 2 years ago
Bert Convy would replace Poston. Silverman also replaced the music with the gawd-awful harpsicord theme.
It was fortunate that TTT finally went off in 1968. I understand that Silverman was ready to replace Collyer with Convy. Example: Robert Q. Lewis always filled in for Collyer when he went on vacation in the later years.
The last time Collyer went on vacation, Lewis was on the panel, but Convy hosted for Collyer.
kevinvanmeter 2 years ago
@wmbrown6 Yes, Silverman HATED game shows, even when they were successful...like many, he felt they didn't bring in the "right" audience demographics to maximize ad revenues.
Giving the devil his due...when he dumped three NBC games in 1980, it WAS for David Letterman's first talk show.
tomservo56954 2 months ago
@byrd56 This could easily have aired after football in the east (or in between games since the Cowboys hosted the late game, which usually was a 4:00 PM ET kickoff and at that time was also on CBS every year) since I believe then kickoff for the Lions game was at noon and at that time in particular, games rarely ran over three hours. It likely did air opposite college football (which was MUCH bigger than the NFL in those days) on ABC.
WaltGekko 8 months ago
Amazing clip! The quality is as great as always.
Animainiac85 2 years ago 5