You zionists are fucking hypocrites. Your Pam Geller sent the murderous zionist fascist Breivik to murder Norwegian youth who were campaigning for their country to terminate contact with the criminal zionist enclave.
Do actually think ignorance is a medical condition that requires medication?
I doubt that you are Norwegian largely because of what you have written. Kikes often have very close associations with the psychiatric industry out of need. Consequently, a kike will use what is familiar as a term of abuse.
When your commuppences are served, you will need medication and that is guaranteed.
As usual..Israel must stand on their own and do as they must..promises they are given are never kept...keep strong..Hashem will alwys have Israel in his sights!!
If everyone here is so anti Rabin murder, then how come that you are so happy that an anti-Rabin song is released on his murder day? It is like someone would celebrate the murder day of every of over-thousand of killed by Palestinian terrorists or will start his obloquy judging of the victims. If you can't justify the second than why exactly you can justify the first? By which screwed moral?
@venera00 This song doesn't single out Rabin for denunciation. So your point regarding him doesn't exist to begin with.
At any rate he partook of massacring the Altalena commuters in 1948 and was never punished for it. He also went on the record issuing gratuitously venomous statements toward the "settlers". He's hardly the saint that the Israeli left has made him out to be.
I am a prude Israeli and I don't need extreme-rightists to advise me that I should fear something and hate someone and kill everything.
This moral of hate is not welcome, and is good for maybe Islamic terrorists, but not for us, Israelis. And don't use memory of innocent killed (that is still much lesser than killed in car accidents) to promote your crazy ideas. We can defend Israel without your advises. No need to become enemy of the good in Israel and poison what we've built here so far.
It is not for Jews to decide if there is war with Arabs. Arabs already made that decision. It is war. Jews can only decide who will win that war; Jews or Arabs.
@venera00 Im not a crazed rightest,but I state level-headedly that the vision that underlied the Oslo accords of a "New Middle East" were truly petulant & naive in the extreme.Peres, Beilin, Ron Pundaq, Yoav Hirshfeld & co. were acting as if we were a Scandinavian country trying to make pce with some other Scandinavian country and almost totally ignored the Arab statements & actions that indicated their real belligerent intentions.This gaggle should be put on trial and locked up for life.
@venera00 And how dare you compare the total of innocent Jews murdered because of the Oslo Accords to the tally of those killed in road accidents?! The catastrophe resulting from the Oslo Accords was almost totally avoidable and its fatalities unjustified. For those who've forgotten, the "saintly" Rabin dubbed them in his impudence "the victims of peace". Geesh...
@ZviJ1, If you want to badmouth someone, start with the terrorists. They are responsible for our innocent killed. You are free to also criticize our governments that don't do enough to solve this. Please don't call victims of the terrorists "victims of peace", because we don't have and never had a peace. Some people dare to use these numbers to badmouth peace dialogue, as if they can suggest any alternative to it, and as if we had never problems with the Palestinians before Oslo since 1949.
@venera00 I distinguish a realistic pursuit of peace, that didn't take place, from criminal adventurism like the Oslo Accords you support. And why didn't you ask your saint, Yitzhak Rabin, to refrain from calling victims of the "Palestinian" terrorists "victims of peace"?? Turns out you're also incredibly dumb in addition to insolent that it almost hurts... I'm not going to read further retorts from you. From now on you'll be talking in an echo chamber if you respond to my comments.
There will be no peace until we learn to put our own lives above all the chimeras of negotiations, "peace processes" and the rest. There will be no peace until we start valuing ourselves.
What is increadibly sad to me is that there is yet another "Saint Rabin Day" in Israel so many years later, while all the ordinary Jews of Israel are seen as nothing, and can be shoved from place to place, or even killed, and no one cares. In Israel itself.
What can we expect from other countries if we don't respect our own people? If we see ourselves as "settlers" or "obstacles to peace," how can we expect others to see us differently?
The song is powerful and true on one hand, on the other, had Rabin foreseen what could happen, he would have never signed this scam of a peace treaty...
An anti-Rabin song published on the Rabin murder day can't be legit in my eyes (unless LatmaTV supports the murder). Also, trying to say that Rabin wanted Nobel and not peace is pretty idiotic.
Песня выложенная в день убийства Рабина не может быть легитимной в моих глазах (разве что LatmaTV поддерживает убийство). Также, попытка убедить кого-то, что Рабин желал Нобеля, а не мира - идиотична.
Considering the damage done to Israel and it's people since Oslo was signed, I'd say that this song being released on the day Rabin was murdered is right on target. The lie of Oslo has resulted in the murders of THOUSANDS of Israelis, and Rabin was directly responsible for it. I think the timing was perfect.
@ETWolverine, the ones who killed hope and peace on November 4, 1995 are responsible for the hundreds (not thousands) of Israelis killed in these 16 years, and certainly not the ones who went to stop the hate from both sides in Oslo.
By your tone I suppose you support the Rabin murder, so you can't stop me to consider you a barbarian who is not any different from supporters of Palestinian terrorists similarly killing innocent Israelis.
@venera00 You suppose wrong. I don't support his Rabin's murder. But I do place the blame for every murdered Israeli that took place after Oslo at his feet where it belongs. He had the opportunity to END THE THREAT OF PALESTINIAN TERRORISM FOREVER, but instead he threw away that opportunity in exchange for a "legacy of peace" that has turned out to be anything but. Rabin stands guilty of causing every single Israeli death after Oslo, and every single Palestinian death too.
@venera00 And here comes a leftist, turning everything upside down, blaming al-Aqsa intifada, rocket attacks and the rest on the murderer of Rabin, and using standard leftist technique of shaming everyone into silence.
"By your tone I suppose you support the Rabin murder."
Well, don't suppose. Don't give us this "suppose." The shame is on you for this "suppose" business.
It's the same thing all over again: "You have doubts about The Peace Process? It means you are against it. So you are against peace. You are for war. Only murderers are for war. You are a murderer!"
Typical leftist game.
It never ceases to amaze me how leftists who claim to be for peace and to love everybody fill up with hatred and uncontrollable rage at mere mention of somebody not quite leftist. And never notice the contradiction.
From Jewish Virtual Library: Fatal Terrorist Attacks in Israel Since the Oslo Accords
"From the signing of Oslo Accords between Israel and the PLO in September 1993 until September 2000, close to 300 Israelis were killed in terrorist attacks.
"From September 2000 until December 2005, another 1,100 Israelis were killed during the Palestinian Al-Aqsa Intifada.
Which doesn't mean I'm justifying murder of Rabin. Don't try to hang it on me.
Your "went to stop the hate from both sides in Oslo" is a masterpiece of upside down. From both sides? Really? Have you ever heard of Trojan Horse (both the original Greek one and the one mentioned by Feisal Husseini?)
Your mind is in some alternative universe. Together with Shimon Peres, I suppose.
I wonder, did Yigal Amir also wipe out the dinosaurs?
@venera00, Заткнись, предурок. И заткни своего Рабина себе в жопу. Тебе дело до него, а до тех, кто был убит в мясорубке его (и Переса) работы тебе нет дела. Даже мертвые дети для тебя – бессмысленная статистика.
Я был в Израиле на один из предидущих "Дней Святого Рабина." Вой стоял на всю израильскую. Тем временем арабы еще кого-то убили, и никто не заметил. Все по давно мертвому Рабину сокрушались.
Рабин хотел как лучше? Ленин тоже хотел как лучше. А получилось ... Пора бы уже научиться оценивать людей по достижениям, а не по воздушным замкам. Воздушные замки мы все умеем строить.
И не пробуй затыкать нам рот: мол, "Песня выложенная в день убийства не может быть легитимной". Может. Тут демократия, а не Советский Союз.
@Kurtlane, можешь заменить "легитимной" на "порядочной и цивилизованой". Раз ты "был" в Израиле, то значит тебя тут уже нет. Оставайся крикуном и варваром в своей стране, и призывай там к убийствам и ненависти. А я останусь порядочным в Израиле, и буду считать варварскими любые оскорбления памяти невинно-погибших.
@venera00 слушайте ребята, а может поменяетесь? Kurtlane, приедит к нам жить, а ты венеричный и "порядочным в Израиле" езжай в другую страну, желательно в мусульманскую. Они тебя возлюбят за твою порядочность. А нам нужны мужчины и кто му же умные. Как я понимаю, ты Венера этим не страдаешь. Наша самая большая проблема это не арабы, а наши "порядочные" левые. На иврите их называют "ерев гав" ещё с времён выхода из Египта. Нам нужна сплочённость народа.
@TheVchuka, ты не угадал насчёт моего пола, как и остального. Согласен, что нам нужна сплочённость народа. Любого крайне-правого, поддерживающего убийство еврея, немедля изолировать за помощь врагам и предательство.
@venera00 Нет в этой песни попытки оправдать убийство Рабина и песня значительно глубже какого-то отдельного политика,Рабин тут просто в историческом контексте,но на его месте мог быть и Перес,Барак,Шарон,Ольмерт или любой другой политик,который верит в "добрую волю палестинского народа",делая очередную самоубийственную уступку и не желая смотреть правде в глаза.И за ошибки таких вот политиков население платит своей кровью.А в защиту Рабина у Латмы тоже был хороший выпуск.
@Vandoren333, я говорил совсем другое. Песня анти-Рабинская (навевая, что он предал кого-то и погнался за Нобелем). Зачем тогда её публиковать в *день убийства Рабина*, а не в другой нейтральный день, симпатизируя сторонникам убийства Рабина?
Каждый вправе иметь своё мнение. Одни верят, что уступки самоубийственные, другие, что взаимовыгодные. Некоторые предпочитают охоту на ведьм. Но даже правые правительства не могут предложить своих вариантов, при котором невинные жертвы исчезнут и будет мир.
@venera00 Про политику оставим,если жизнь не смогла снять с вас розовые очки за все это время,то я даже пытаться не буду.
Что касается дня убийства Рабина и выхода песни,то это не совсем так.Версия без английских субтитров была опубликована на день раньше.И,если уж брать какое-то событие за основу,то это сами Ословские соглашения,которые проходили примерно в это же время.
This is a great song, but the translation to english is completely wrong! Caroline Glick is involved with this, please ask her to translate this properly.
אין לי ספק שאם היית חי בארץ לפני 2000 שנה היית מאמץ מרצון מוחלט את כל העמדות הרומאיות כלפי היהודים, רוצח בשליחותם יהודים ובסופו של דבר מתבולל בין הרומאים.
Excellent reminder of the calamity brought upon the people of Israel by that shameful hoax called the Oslo peace treaty. If I can just point out something which, for me, should be emphasized as much as the missiles and that is the thousands of dead and wounded men, women, old and young - some very, very young - from Arafat's terror attacks, especially the newest arab "understandng" of the meaning of peace with the Jews...the demonic suicide bombers, both male and female!
The problem is we only see what the media lets us see, which is far less than the real, COMPLETE, picture. It makes us feel bitter and lost when reality does not meet our expectations.
As an ex-intelligence chief recently stated, the Arabs can afford to lose many wars; it will only take ONE loss for Israel to be wiped out.
Yes the Arabs are the invaders. They invaded in the seventh century AD, thats 600 years after the destruction of the second temple, 1200 years after the destruction of the first temple, 1700 years after the establishment of the first temple and 23 hundred years after the Jews had arrived back to their homeland after the egyptian captivity
Now if you dont believe this drivel why believe the Arab drivel is it because you are so antisemitic you will believe any lie told about a Jew?.
they were blind....but the problem is that they still want us to stay blind....How muc h blood do they need to understand that with this scum of the earh there is only one solution: Eretz Israel to Am ISrael ONLY...transfer YES: the arab ennemy ! No more war,no more prisonners,no more terrorists.Yes to death penalty yes to an arabrein country !
@jebjrs25sivan - Sorry but your fear is showing: people who are afraid don't think straight. On either side of the fence. Just remember this simple key: ANYONE who HATES is AFRAID.
And so-called 'transfer' won't work demographically or morally. In case you missed it, a recent genetic analysis concludes that 60-80% of so-called "Palestinian" population in the West Bank are descendents of Israel; Jews who converted to Islam rather than leave their 'beloved land'.
@TheShirEl The 60-80% figure consists in large measure of "Palis" descended from Samaritans forcibly converted to Islam.
I dont follow the logic underlying ur statement that a transfer wont work demographically or morally.Many Arab sates compelled their Jewish populations to emigrate and a total of ~900,000 Jews left those lands,many of whom to Israel.Jordan could be sufficiently developed for "Palestinian" habitation and theoretically forced into accepting the "Palestinians".
@jebjrs25sivan - Think about that the next time the phrase "Eretz Israel HaShlema" comes up - because it may be a choice between loving a 'thing' and loving G-d.
some of your best work yet!!! i love your weekly shows but this is one of the best songs u had!! your doing very important work keep up the great work!!! I just have some issues with the translation at times its not always "perfect" but I guess all my years working as a translator affects my opinion:) still love the shows and this song is just great!
ENGLISH TRANSLATION OF LYRICS (3b of 3) The Ballad of Oslo's Children (The children of Oslo September '93) You promised an olive ranch, a dove We got missiles, oh such love Just two dead evey day What a great price to pay - for peace Keep on singing about your great bet We just got new orders over the secure net We don't have time for your stories That's ok, we know you're not sorry You promised a dove ...
ENGLISH TRANSLATION OF LYRICS (3 of 3) The Ballad of Oslo's Children (The children of Oslo September '93) I'm from Sderot Watch out for your Nobel, so it doesn't get dirtied by shrapnel, tears and blood No pressure, we won't ask you that you're planning for the neighborhood Because we learned long ago your word is no good In trauma wards, in Ashkelon, Itamar and in war, we ask We are the children of that Oslo ... Why was the truth was beyond your grasp ?
ENGLISH TRANSLATION OF LYRICS (2 of 3) The Ballad of Oslo's Children (The children of Oslo September '93) That you could try out on us - Why not, apres vous la deluge You promised an olive branch, a dove We got missiles, oh such love You promised joy and calm We got expulsions and bombs You promised a dove ... We are the children of Oslo September '93 We're all grown up, we're soldiers we're armed and wear helmets on our heads I'm from Kfar Saba Haifa Gush Katif
ENGLISH TRANSLATION OF LYRICS (1 of 3) The Ballad of Oslo's Children (The children of Oslo September '93) We are the children of Oslo September '93 You sold us out on the White House lawn for promises You were weary men who dreamed of Nobel Peace Prizes You were young women who embraced the dream and forgot the truth So you got your acclaim and signed a deal, That was total ruse
well you know there is new jersey an poughkeepsie etc. Thats not the point. the point is the number of NY jews has remained contant or declined in six decades. Jewish Israel has multiplied by a factor of 10. Tht's success for you, and ass for the Arabs, one days they will need to leave, and they better do it now for money than later by war.
omg you are so disgusting! everything u do to the arabs and u cry about it? if u wanted the fucking dove u shouldn't come to palestine shooting,2 dead per day? or 2 israeli dead? how many palestinians u kill huh?
@MrUnweX How many of them didn't want to kill us? How many of them had a real reason to want to kill us? How many stayed alive if any other sane state would face the same sitation? And how many of them are actually thelling the truth to ignorant youtube users who don't confirm the truth with their own eyes and sense?
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@osherhaim fuck all religions, fuck islam, fuck Judaism, fuck christianity and fuck the other religions no one cares about, you religious people are creepy and crazy
@MyMomSaysSo It really doesn't matter how many Jews live overseas. Israel is our home, our origin, our beginning and our end, in Israel we protect ourselves and we don't need anyone's mercy. Israel is worth all this fighting, all the dead, the suffering, everything.
לדעתי הניסיון לחריזה בתרגום לאנגלית פשוט מיותר ומוריד מהערך. השיר חזק יותר בעברית, וראוי שיתורגם כמו שהוא. יור וורד איז נו גוד לעומת הבטחות לא צריך לקיים? באמת חבל.
@DISCOnnected90 I don't see why you are complaining. They did it with Hebrew AND English sub-titles, separate uploads. Many people in chu"l like to watch LATMA. For myself, I watch with the Hebrew sub-titles, then the English. This help improve my Hebrew.
@zvi303 I don't complain about the fact they did it with English subs, I think it's great, in fact. The thing that bothers me a little is their attempt to make the English translation rhyme - and therefore they change words and sentences, which automatically makes the translation inaccurate and less witty than it is in Hebrew. I say: Translate as it is, not as it rhymes.
(cont'd) It was lifted from Yael Meir's poem. Yael resided in Ramat HaMagshimin in 1973-74. The song rips into the politicians who were interested in a Nobel Prize and left the population to die at the rate of two a day since then, after disengagement, withdrawal, suicide bombers, qassam rockets, etc.
In order to understand the following Latma parody, you need know the original song on which it was based, "Winter 1973", was written by Shmuel Hasfari (formerly in Betar and DOV but for years gone far-left) and put to music by Uri Widislavski and first performed by an IDF educational entertainment group. It refers to the recruits of 1990-91 who were born in 1973 when, after the Yom Kippur War, a Yehoram Gaon song promised "this will be the very last war", and the lyrics are here.
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@TheStreetMan1
Utterances like "Prick, Taqiya", the pomposity and vehemence of your comment; you must be a kike. Oy vey, vitriol is one of your soulless traits.
BoycottIsrahell 3 days ago
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BoycottIsrahell 3 days ago
Israel isreal
playabrisamar 3 weeks ago
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tmpq1lzy 1 month ago
You zionists are fucking hypocrites. Your Pam Geller sent the murderous zionist fascist Breivik to murder Norwegian youth who were campaigning for their country to terminate contact with the criminal zionist enclave.
BoycottIsrahell 2 months ago
@BoycottIsrahell I am Norwegian and I want to say just one thing to you: Get medical help, because this is beyond ignorance. You need medication.
topperheartramada 2 weeks ago
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@topperheartramada
Do actually think ignorance is a medical condition that requires medication?
I doubt that you are Norwegian largely because of what you have written. Kikes often have very close associations with the psychiatric industry out of need. Consequently, a kike will use what is familiar as a term of abuse.
When your commuppences are served, you will need medication and that is guaranteed.
BoycottIsrahell 3 days ago
This is one of the few times I am actualy ashamed to be Norwegian :(
StianDasDass 3 months ago 5
@StianDasDass
You are pretending to be ashamed to be Norwegian because you are a zionist scumbag.
Why would a Norwegian be ashamed of his nationality? Get the fuck out of here.
BoycottIsrahell 2 months ago
פשוט מדהים. אמת חקוקה בסלע!
siov 3 months ago 2
strong and sad......very deep
yenon 3 months ago 5
As usual..Israel must stand on their own and do as they must..promises they are given are never kept...keep strong..Hashem will alwys have Israel in his sights!!
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תחפשו ביוטיוב "הפלסטינים הם היהודים המקוריים"
southernparks 3 months ago
Once bitten twice shy.
nhays172 3 months ago
powerful statement of the truth!
raff1966 3 months ago 6
Wow, what a great song and great video.
SanJoseDan50 3 months ago 3
gadol
defender48 3 months ago 2
If everyone here is so anti Rabin murder, then how come that you are so happy that an anti-Rabin song is released on his murder day? It is like someone would celebrate the murder day of every of over-thousand of killed by Palestinian terrorists or will start his obloquy judging of the victims. If you can't justify the second than why exactly you can justify the first? By which screwed moral?
venera00 3 months ago
@venera00 This song doesn't single out Rabin for denunciation. So your point regarding him doesn't exist to begin with.
At any rate he partook of massacring the Altalena commuters in 1948 and was never punished for it. He also went on the record issuing gratuitously venomous statements toward the "settlers". He's hardly the saint that the Israeli left has made him out to be.
ZviJ1 3 months ago
I am a prude Israeli and I don't need extreme-rightists to advise me that I should fear something and hate someone and kill everything.
This moral of hate is not welcome, and is good for maybe Islamic terrorists, but not for us, Israelis. And don't use memory of innocent killed (that is still much lesser than killed in car accidents) to promote your crazy ideas. We can defend Israel without your advises. No need to become enemy of the good in Israel and poison what we've built here so far.
venera00 3 months ago
@venera00
It is not for Jews to decide if there is war with Arabs. Arabs already made that decision. It is war. Jews can only decide who will win that war; Jews or Arabs.
SanJoseDan50 3 months ago 23
@venera00 Im not a crazed rightest,but I state level-headedly that the vision that underlied the Oslo accords of a "New Middle East" were truly petulant & naive in the extreme.Peres, Beilin, Ron Pundaq, Yoav Hirshfeld & co. were acting as if we were a Scandinavian country trying to make pce with some other Scandinavian country and almost totally ignored the Arab statements & actions that indicated their real belligerent intentions.This gaggle should be put on trial and locked up for life.
ZviJ1 3 months ago
@venera00 And how dare you compare the total of innocent Jews murdered because of the Oslo Accords to the tally of those killed in road accidents?! The catastrophe resulting from the Oslo Accords was almost totally avoidable and its fatalities unjustified. For those who've forgotten, the "saintly" Rabin dubbed them in his impudence "the victims of peace". Geesh...
ZviJ1 3 months ago
@ZviJ1, If you want to badmouth someone, start with the terrorists. They are responsible for our innocent killed. You are free to also criticize our governments that don't do enough to solve this. Please don't call victims of the terrorists "victims of peace", because we don't have and never had a peace. Some people dare to use these numbers to badmouth peace dialogue, as if they can suggest any alternative to it, and as if we had never problems with the Palestinians before Oslo since 1949.
venera00 3 months ago
@venera00 I distinguish a realistic pursuit of peace, that didn't take place, from criminal adventurism like the Oslo Accords you support. And why didn't you ask your saint, Yitzhak Rabin, to refrain from calling victims of the "Palestinian" terrorists "victims of peace"?? Turns out you're also incredibly dumb in addition to insolent that it almost hurts... I'm not going to read further retorts from you. From now on you'll be talking in an echo chamber if you respond to my comments.
ZviJ1 3 months ago
Many mistakes in the english translation. Someone needs to review this...
jberrebi 3 months ago in playlist Videos from LatmaTV
@jberrebi You're correct. The translation sucks, though it fortunately still conveys the essence of the lyrics' message.
ZviJ1 3 months ago
זהו שיר מדהים
DarkQuietWyattON 3 months ago
bullshit! Bibi stopped Oslo and brought the Hamas to power
djkasiak 3 months ago
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Kurtlane 3 months ago
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Kurtlane 3 months ago
There will be no peace until we learn to put our own lives above all the chimeras of negotiations, "peace processes" and the rest. There will be no peace until we start valuing ourselves.
Kurtlane 3 months ago 3
What is increadibly sad to me is that there is yet another "Saint Rabin Day" in Israel so many years later, while all the ordinary Jews of Israel are seen as nothing, and can be shoved from place to place, or even killed, and no one cares. In Israel itself.
What can we expect from other countries if we don't respect our own people? If we see ourselves as "settlers" or "obstacles to peace," how can we expect others to see us differently?
Kurtlane 3 months ago 3
The song is powerful and true on one hand, on the other, had Rabin foreseen what could happen, he would have never signed this scam of a peace treaty...
kukla57 3 months ago
An anti-Rabin song published on the Rabin murder day can't be legit in my eyes (unless LatmaTV supports the murder). Also, trying to say that Rabin wanted Nobel and not peace is pretty idiotic.
Песня выложенная в день убийства Рабина не может быть легитимной в моих глазах (разве что LatmaTV поддерживает убийство). Также, попытка убедить кого-то, что Рабин желал Нобеля, а не мира - идиотична.
venera00 3 months ago
@venera00
Considering the damage done to Israel and it's people since Oslo was signed, I'd say that this song being released on the day Rabin was murdered is right on target. The lie of Oslo has resulted in the murders of THOUSANDS of Israelis, and Rabin was directly responsible for it. I think the timing was perfect.
ETWolverine 3 months ago 2
@ETWolverine, the ones who killed hope and peace on November 4, 1995 are responsible for the hundreds (not thousands) of Israelis killed in these 16 years, and certainly not the ones who went to stop the hate from both sides in Oslo.
By your tone I suppose you support the Rabin murder, so you can't stop me to consider you a barbarian who is not any different from supporters of Palestinian terrorists similarly killing innocent Israelis.
venera00 3 months ago
@venera00 You suppose wrong. I don't support his Rabin's murder. But I do place the blame for every murdered Israeli that took place after Oslo at his feet where it belongs. He had the opportunity to END THE THREAT OF PALESTINIAN TERRORISM FOREVER, but instead he threw away that opportunity in exchange for a "legacy of peace" that has turned out to be anything but. Rabin stands guilty of causing every single Israeli death after Oslo, and every single Palestinian death too.
ETWolverine 3 months ago 3
@venera00 And here comes a leftist, turning everything upside down, blaming al-Aqsa intifada, rocket attacks and the rest on the murderer of Rabin, and using standard leftist technique of shaming everyone into silence.
"By your tone I suppose you support the Rabin murder."
Well, don't suppose. Don't give us this "suppose." The shame is on you for this "suppose" business.
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Kurtlane 3 months ago 2
It's the same thing all over again: "You have doubts about The Peace Process? It means you are against it. So you are against peace. You are for war. Only murderers are for war. You are a murderer!"
Typical leftist game.
It never ceases to amaze me how leftists who claim to be for peace and to love everybody fill up with hatred and uncontrollable rage at mere mention of somebody not quite leftist. And never notice the contradiction.
(cont.)
Kurtlane 3 months ago 2
And no, dear, thousands were killed.
From Jewish Virtual Library: Fatal Terrorist Attacks in Israel Since the Oslo Accords
"From the signing of Oslo Accords between Israel and the PLO in September 1993 until September 2000, close to 300 Israelis were killed in terrorist attacks.
"From September 2000 until December 2005, another 1,100 Israelis were killed during the Palestinian Al-Aqsa Intifada.
(cont.)
Kurtlane 3 months ago 2
"Since December 2005, Palestinian terrorist attacks have claimed another 118 Israeli lives."
You can find their names and other information at " We Should Not Forget" web site.
But I don't think you care. You'd rather stick to "only hundreds were killed" and other illusions.
And it was not Yigal Amir who killed them.
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Kurtlane 3 months ago 4
Which doesn't mean I'm justifying murder of Rabin. Don't try to hang it on me.
Your "went to stop the hate from both sides in Oslo" is a masterpiece of upside down. From both sides? Really? Have you ever heard of Trojan Horse (both the original Greek one and the one mentioned by Feisal Husseini?)
Your mind is in some alternative universe. Together with Shimon Peres, I suppose.
I wonder, did Yigal Amir also wipe out the dinosaurs?
Kurtlane 3 months ago 2
@venera00, Заткнись, предурок. И заткни своего Рабина себе в жопу. Тебе дело до него, а до тех, кто был убит в мясорубке его (и Переса) работы тебе нет дела. Даже мертвые дети для тебя – бессмысленная статистика.
Я был в Израиле на один из предидущих "Дней Святого Рабина." Вой стоял на всю израильскую. Тем временем арабы еще кого-то убили, и никто не заметил. Все по давно мертвому Рабину сокрушались.
(прод)
Kurtlane 3 months ago
Рабин хотел как лучше? Ленин тоже хотел как лучше. А получилось ... Пора бы уже научиться оценивать людей по достижениям, а не по воздушным замкам. Воздушные замки мы все умеем строить.
И не пробуй затыкать нам рот: мол, "Песня выложенная в день убийства не может быть легитимной". Может. Тут демократия, а не Советский Союз.
Kurtlane 3 months ago 2
@Kurtlane Super!!
shimonD111 3 months ago
@Kurtlane, можешь заменить "легитимной" на "порядочной и цивилизованой". Раз ты "был" в Израиле, то значит тебя тут уже нет. Оставайся крикуном и варваром в своей стране, и призывай там к убийствам и ненависти. А я останусь порядочным в Израиле, и буду считать варварскими любые оскорбления памяти невинно-погибших.
venera00 3 months ago
@venera00, пока я в Штатах, так как не могу бросить свою тетю. У нее рак.
Когда ее не станет, я перееду в Израиль.
Конечно, США - очень варварская страна. Мы тут все - Чингиз-ханы (сарказм).
Что касается порядочности, то арабы на нее дают ответ куда "лучший", чем я могу. Убивают, убивают, убивают. И конца не видно.
Твоя порядочность, и гордыня в своей порядочности, имеет очень уродливую изнанку.
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Kurtlane 3 months ago
Но тебе плевать. Как плевать (за исключением Рабина) на то, что из невинно-живых делаются невинно-погибшие.
Остается надеяться, что ты когда-нибудь проснешься и осознаешь, что цена за порядочность слишком велика.
Kurtlane 3 months ago
@venera00 слушайте ребята, а может поменяетесь? Kurtlane, приедит к нам жить, а ты венеричный и "порядочным в Израиле" езжай в другую страну, желательно в мусульманскую. Они тебя возлюбят за твою порядочность. А нам нужны мужчины и кто му же умные. Как я понимаю, ты Венера этим не страдаешь. Наша самая большая проблема это не арабы, а наши "порядочные" левые. На иврите их называют "ерев гав" ещё с времён выхода из Египта. Нам нужна сплочённость народа.
TheVchuka 3 months ago 2
@TheVchuka, ты не угадал насчёт моего пола, как и остального. Согласен, что нам нужна сплочённость народа. Любого крайне-правого, поддерживающего убийство еврея, немедля изолировать за помощь врагам и предательство.
venera00 3 months ago
@venera00 Нет в этой песни попытки оправдать убийство Рабина и песня значительно глубже какого-то отдельного политика,Рабин тут просто в историческом контексте,но на его месте мог быть и Перес,Барак,Шарон,Ольмерт или любой другой политик,который верит в "добрую волю палестинского народа",делая очередную самоубийственную уступку и не желая смотреть правде в глаза.И за ошибки таких вот политиков население платит своей кровью.А в защиту Рабина у Латмы тоже был хороший выпуск.
Vandoren333 3 months ago
@Vandoren333, я говорил совсем другое. Песня анти-Рабинская (навевая, что он предал кого-то и погнался за Нобелем). Зачем тогда её публиковать в *день убийства Рабина*, а не в другой нейтральный день, симпатизируя сторонникам убийства Рабина?
Каждый вправе иметь своё мнение. Одни верят, что уступки самоубийственные, другие, что взаимовыгодные. Некоторые предпочитают охоту на ведьм. Но даже правые правительства не могут предложить своих вариантов, при котором невинные жертвы исчезнут и будет мир.
venera00 3 months ago
@venera00 Про политику оставим,если жизнь не смогла снять с вас розовые очки за все это время,то я даже пытаться не буду.
Что касается дня убийства Рабина и выхода песни,то это не совсем так.Версия без английских субтитров была опубликована на день раньше.И,если уж брать какое-то событие за основу,то это сами Ословские соглашения,которые проходили примерно в это же время.
Vandoren333 3 months ago
that was powerful
jondummitt 3 months ago 2
This is a great song, but the translation to english is completely wrong! Caroline Glick is involved with this, please ask her to translate this properly.
solkut 3 months ago
Perfect!!!
rakamir 3 months ago 2
Myrashki po koje.Nobel v groby perevora4evaetsia yje 10 let
Po4emy GITLERA ne nagradili premeei za mir ???
barbos48 3 months ago
Myrashki po koje.Nobel v groby perevora4evaetsia yje 10 let
barbos48 3 months ago
very bad translation... it does do justice to the original Hebrew lyrics
barryusa5 3 months ago
Please, the present translation is unfortunately unacceptably un-professional.
The song deserves indeed a proper rendering into english!
bertiladania 3 months ago
Someting like that you dont and wont see on Palestinain TV or web-sides,
only hate.
mamzer1930 3 months ago 9
תודה רבה
vladturchak 3 months ago
בואו נחזור ונילחם ברומאים ואחר כך נבכה 2000 שנה למה אין לנו בית לאומי
tsharoni 3 months ago
@tsharoni למען הסר ספק, התכוונתי בהערה הקודמת שלי לעובדות שהוזכרו בסרטון.
אין לי ספק שאם היית חי בארץ לפני 2000 שנה היית מאמץ מרצון מוחלט את כל העמדות הרומאיות כלפי היהודים, רוצח בשליחותם יהודים ובסופו של דבר מתבולל בין הרומאים.
ZviJ1 3 months ago
So true. Watching this video made me quite emotional. It's the truth and the world keeps wanting for this history to repeat itself.
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tsharoni 3 months ago
כרגיל בכיינים. כמו ביבי מנסים להאשים את הממשלה הקודמת. במקרה הזה הקודמת, קודמת, קודמת, קודמת ועוד פעם קודמת...
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tsharoni 3 months ago
@tsharoni בכיינות זה לציין את העובדות שלא נוחות לך מנקודת השקפתך הפוליטית. אני מבטיח לא לבכות אם ייוודע שנרצחת בפיגוע כלשהו. עלוב נפש נאלח שכמוך.
ZviJ1 3 months ago
what a problem?
immanu el.
Thelastdayfor 3 months ago
This is really brilliant.
TheStreetMan1 3 months ago 36
Excellent reminder of the calamity brought upon the people of Israel by that shameful hoax called the Oslo peace treaty. If I can just point out something which, for me, should be emphasized as much as the missiles and that is the thousands of dead and wounded men, women, old and young - some very, very young - from Arafat's terror attacks, especially the newest arab "understandng" of the meaning of peace with the Jews...the demonic suicide bombers, both male and female!
Kittsee 3 months ago 5
Спасибо
leibmark 3 months ago 3
Superb!!!
triplecheck4 3 months ago 3
Powerful. Too sad and heartbreaking to be considered satire. This is more like tragedy.
GreenManalishiUSA 3 months ago 3
The problem is we only see what the media lets us see, which is far less than the real, COMPLETE, picture. It makes us feel bitter and lost when reality does not meet our expectations.
As an ex-intelligence chief recently stated, the Arabs can afford to lose many wars; it will only take ONE loss for Israel to be wiped out.
TheShirEl 3 months ago
Yes the Arabs are the invaders. They invaded in the seventh century AD, thats 600 years after the destruction of the second temple, 1200 years after the destruction of the first temple, 1700 years after the establishment of the first temple and 23 hundred years after the Jews had arrived back to their homeland after the egyptian captivity
Now if you dont believe this drivel why believe the Arab drivel is it because you are so antisemitic you will believe any lie told about a Jew?.
BigB29357 3 months ago 4
WOW! brought real tears!!
ZACK613 3 months ago 7
Wow and I always thought that LatmaTV was light hearted satire of Israeli affairs.
xA6fhYZ4 3 months ago 6
they were blind....but the problem is that they still want us to stay blind....How muc h blood do they need to understand that with this scum of the earh there is only one solution: Eretz Israel to Am ISrael ONLY...transfer YES: the arab ennemy ! No more war,no more prisonners,no more terrorists.Yes to death penalty yes to an arabrein country !
jebjrs25sivan 3 months ago 4
@jebjrs25sivan - Sorry but your fear is showing: people who are afraid don't think straight. On either side of the fence. Just remember this simple key: ANYONE who HATES is AFRAID.
And so-called 'transfer' won't work demographically or morally. In case you missed it, a recent genetic analysis concludes that 60-80% of so-called "Palestinian" population in the West Bank are descendents of Israel; Jews who converted to Islam rather than leave their 'beloved land'.
TheShirEl 3 months ago
@TheShirEl The 60-80% figure consists in large measure of "Palis" descended from Samaritans forcibly converted to Islam.
I dont follow the logic underlying ur statement that a transfer wont work demographically or morally.Many Arab sates compelled their Jewish populations to emigrate and a total of ~900,000 Jews left those lands,many of whom to Israel.Jordan could be sufficiently developed for "Palestinian" habitation and theoretically forced into accepting the "Palestinians".
ZviJ1 3 months ago
@jebjrs25sivan - Think about that the next time the phrase "Eretz Israel HaShlema" comes up - because it may be a choice between loving a 'thing' and loving G-d.
TheShirEl 3 months ago
some of your best work yet!!! i love your weekly shows but this is one of the best songs u had!! your doing very important work keep up the great work!!! I just have some issues with the translation at times its not always "perfect" but I guess all my years working as a translator affects my opinion:) still love the shows and this song is just great!
yatf1 3 months ago 7
That song/video should be required viewing to all the inept American politicians.
vkoenig 3 months ago 25
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celvin11 3 months ago
Beautiful, sad, and justifiably cynical.
norabst 3 months ago 5
Eerily piercing.
prob316 3 months ago
The best song Latma has produced to far, even though it's a straight lament.
prob316 3 months ago 2
@ Latma
Thank you so much for posting this video !
Can someone provide / post lyrics ?
celvin11 3 months ago
הילדים של אוסלו הם כאן לעשות מה שההורים שלהם לא גמרו.
RickDC1 4 months ago
כל הכבוד! כל כך עצוב, כל כך נכון
Chanimusic 4 months ago 2
כל כך נכון וכל כך נוגע ללב
4motti4 4 months ago 3
ענק אתם מספר אחת...
orenshish 4 months ago 2
P.S. They made me cry again. (And, BTW, I live in Haifa.)
zvi303 4 months ago 2
Is this a take-off on a particular song? It seem similar to their version of "Shir HaShalom".
zvi303 4 months ago
@zvi303 it is but not Shir hashalom but We are the Children of 1973
Toby351 4 months ago
well you know there is new jersey an poughkeepsie etc. Thats not the point. the point is the number of NY jews has remained contant or declined in six decades. Jewish Israel has multiplied by a factor of 10. Tht's success for you, and ass for the Arabs, one days they will need to leave, and they better do it now for money than later by war.
BigB29357 4 months ago
omg you are so disgusting! everything u do to the arabs and u cry about it? if u wanted the fucking dove u shouldn't come to palestine shooting,2 dead per day? or 2 israeli dead? how many palestinians u kill huh?
MrUnweX 4 months ago
@MrUnweX How many of them didn't want to kill us? How many of them had a real reason to want to kill us? How many stayed alive if any other sane state would face the same sitation? And how many of them are actually thelling the truth to ignorant youtube users who don't confirm the truth with their own eyes and sense?
osherhaim 4 months ago 3
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@osherhaim fuck all religions, fuck islam, fuck Judaism, fuck christianity and fuck the other religions no one cares about, you religious people are creepy and crazy
MrUnweX 4 months ago
@MrUnweX What a relevant reply, I'm done communicating with you.
osherhaim 4 months ago
@osherhaim hahahaha, i dont communicate with religious monkeys
MrUnweX 3 months ago
Its time for the Arab invaders to move out of the land of Israel back to the deesert they came from.
BigB29357 4 months ago 4
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@BigB29357 BAHAHAHAHAHA arab invaders?? :P, weren't the arabs there first?, well both of u were but the jews were pussy and went to europe, so 3-/
MrUnweX 3 months ago
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@MrUnweX I am sorry you are believing the lies you are told.
zvi303 4 months ago
Thank you. I agree, sad but true.
vaumarcus13 4 months ago
more jews in nyc than israel, heheh. why not all move there and get it over with, get out of that desert hellhole
MyMomSaysSo 4 months ago
@MyMomSaysSo
NY has THREE million Jews, Israel has six/ Why dont you come up here and see what a paradise can be made of a desert hell-hole
Anyway september 11??
BigB29357 4 months ago
@BigB29357 Two million, about one million in the city.
zvi303 4 months ago
@MyMomSaysSo It really doesn't matter how many Jews live overseas. Israel is our home, our origin, our beginning and our end, in Israel we protect ourselves and we don't need anyone's mercy. Israel is worth all this fighting, all the dead, the suffering, everything.
MusashiMori 4 months ago 3
@MyMomSaysSo yea israel is soo desert bro, did u fail geography?
MrUnweX 3 months ago
LatmaTV continues to amaze. THANK YOU, Ms. Glick! THANK YOU, LatmaTV stars! @winkie47, THANK YOU for the context!
ISRAEL FOREVER!!
ThLuckyOne 4 months ago 3
Sad but true...
janosiklc 4 months ago
This does no good. THE LEFT HAS NO SHAME!!!
brooklynwolfbear 4 months ago
Keep on the good work!!!שיר ענק
Israelibomb 4 months ago
So true and so sad...beautiful song tough. Good work putting this video together, although i won't say that the subtitles are precise at times.
meeeeee0 4 months ago
Great work
avilaw45 4 months ago 2
Nice song, love from Norway
enokmn 4 months ago 5
לדעתי הניסיון לחריזה בתרגום לאנגלית פשוט מיותר ומוריד מהערך. השיר חזק יותר בעברית, וראוי שיתורגם כמו שהוא. יור וורד איז נו גוד לעומת הבטחות לא צריך לקיים? באמת חבל.
DISCOnnected90 4 months ago 20
@DISCOnnected90 I don't see why you are complaining. They did it with Hebrew AND English sub-titles, separate uploads. Many people in chu"l like to watch LATMA. For myself, I watch with the Hebrew sub-titles, then the English. This help improve my Hebrew.
zvi303 4 months ago
@zvi303 I don't complain about the fact they did it with English subs, I think it's great, in fact. The thing that bothers me a little is their attempt to make the English translation rhyme - and therefore they change words and sentences, which automatically makes the translation inaccurate and less witty than it is in Hebrew. I say: Translate as it is, not as it rhymes.
DISCOnnected90 3 months ago 7
(cont'd) It was lifted from Yael Meir's poem. Yael resided in Ramat HaMagshimin in 1973-74. The song rips into the politicians who were interested in a Nobel Prize and left the population to die at the rate of two a day since then, after disengagement, withdrawal, suicide bombers, qassam rockets, etc.
winkie47 4 months ago 3
In order to understand the following Latma parody, you need know the original song on which it was based, "Winter 1973", was written by Shmuel Hasfari (formerly in Betar and DOV but for years gone far-left) and put to music by Uri Widislavski and first performed by an IDF educational entertainment group. It refers to the recruits of 1990-91 who were born in 1973 when, after the Yom Kippur War, a Yehoram Gaon song promised "this will be the very last war", and the lyrics are here.
winkie47 4 months ago 6
Sad. True. Great work.
princeeugen 4 months ago 6