Don't worry about that comment. It's not a shame that you bought a 360. However you still might find a better game on 360. Just don't get upset about that comment.
Lol, I have all ratchet and clank games and my favourite one so far is Ratchet & Clank 3! Can't play tools of destruction yet because my Grandad is watching the stupid cricket. >:l
Love this game. 2007 was a great year in gaming. God of War 2 came out, Crash of the Titans came out, Legend of Spyro: The Eternal Night came out. This came out. Good year and great games.
Let me make this clear, This is NOT a damn disney movie, Its not a damn Pixar movie, so if you have ever said it reminds you of one SHUT THE HELL UP!!
The back of the game case says its like a pixar movie, it isnt.
Just because its got great animation it shouldnt be compared to Pixar, its better
I just got my Ps3 yesterday and I want to play Ratchet & Clank. But since I've never ever played this, I dont know which game I should start with? What would you guys recommend me?
well the first ratchet and clank game was on the playstation 2. There are 5 ratchet and clank games on the ps2. If you really want to start the whole series just get ratchet and clank on the ps2. Then move on to going commando, up your arsenal, and ratchet: deadlocked. Those are the names of the games. The ratchet and clank games on the ps3 are ratchet and clank future: tools of destruction, future: a quest for booty (download fomr PSN) and future: a crack in time.
@ghillas16 Well, I also never played Ratchet & Clank, but now I want to buy the Ratchet & Clank Tools Of Destruction. Although I don't know, which kind of game you like, I can recommend you Borderlands, Little Big Planet, the Call Of Duty series (espacially Modern Warfare + Modern Warfare 2) and Need for Speed Hot Pursuit.
I think the developers took drugs.Ive played R and C from the very beginning and I realize that every new R and C game gets more and more [insert word that describes how crazy this game is].
Having collected all of the R&C games over the years and completing them, I can say this as good as it gets in my opinion.
The series seems to go downhill after this game is completed, QFB and A Crack in Time just seem gimmicky and complex, they just don't seem right... this is an excelent game though.
The only stupid thing with this si that you have to run around collecting nuts and bolts - why they don't just fly off into your points or bag is just stupid - like the Lego games. It takes all the fun away from running around - having to go and pick up studs from dead Lego people
i downloaded playstation 3 games for free on my Laptop. Google "ps3 zappy download" and click the first link. It's a excellent site! All the latest ps3 games are there for download on the "ps3 zappy download" site!
i finished this game in 2 days i loved it but shame it was too short do good thing is at the end you can do challenge mode and you can keep all your weapons and stuffs....
a crack in time is newer then tod but u should play tod first for the storyline,u rlly may not miss any of these games! :D imma get a ps3 on christmas to ,can't wait to play these games first!!! :D
not sure but it probably is. I see the lock strafe as a fail by insomniac because going from up your arsenal to deadlocked, where deadlocked required you to use lock strafe, didn't keep with the ratchet and clank style and it pissed off a lot of fans lol
CAN SOM1 PLEASE REPLY, now that ratchet and clank crack in time is out wat is better tools of destruction or crack in time? tell me coz im gettin a ps3 soon
i would say get both (if u can afford) but first get Tools of Destruction b4 u get Crack In Time, cause its meant 2 be better than Tools of Destruction
this game looks straight up amazing... I had a couple of the ratchet and clank games for the ps2 and I loved them. My ps3 slim is coming tomorrow in the mail (hopefully) and this and batman arkham asylum are my first games :)
game looks sweet.. i lot different looking than the old series but still sweet. looks alot more realistic. man the ps3 has all the best exclusives. all the best companies working for them... definatly getting a ps3 next year.
yes it is. :D if your like me and try to extend the length of your games and unlock literally every little thing that can be unlocked then this game will last you several months. But the actually story will probobly take a few weeks. I took my time and explored around the levels alot and it took me just over a month to complete the story. Im still not done unlocking everything though and i got this early 2008
I feel stupid for asking this... but what is the song called that the groovatron plays? he got the instrumental version stuck in my head... and I have nothing to google... :\
P.S. I have heard it before... just don't remember the lyrics...
Got this game yesterday and couldn't stop playing it hehe, very addictive. Glad too, cause I haven't been able to find a decent fun game for PS3. I'm not saying I hate PS3, it's just seems like shooters and such is all that comes out for it so far. Too many shooter games out their, people need to get some better ideas.
the reason your getting thumbs down is dude, how can you hate such a great series? I love them all. the first is just as good as this one and all the way up. I know its opinion so i dont really care what other people think im just saying. :P
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
i have this game played out 34 times i have 365678876789 bolts have all weapons omega vx also the omega R.Y.N.O 4-EVER vx the strongest weapon in all the titles of ratchet&clank,and all the skins and even got pirate swords instead of a wrench,if you need to know something add my PSN AsianDragon
lol i believe he has that many bolts, its easy right. and all weapons upgraded cuz thats what i do too, i try to beat all the ratchet and clank games 100% but lets not go braggoing about it and wtf who plays through a game 34 times? and it just came out 2 years ago. know what im thinking, he has no life if its true.
Bee Gees!!
RGERiyup 1 month ago
This game is a real JEWEL...
L1nuxero 1 month ago
This makes me wish i got a ps3 instead of a 360, a life wasted :((((
NRS728 1 month ago
cant wait till xmas i asked for a ps3 and ratchet and clank ToD and CiT
xLefTii 1 month ago
is it on ps2 too?
eldind026 1 month ago
@eldind026 no it isn't
Urasawa92 1 month ago
Just got a PS3 and this will be the 1st game I play nothing like ratchet and clank to get me back with PlayStation
muiscnight 1 month ago
i've always loved playstation exclusives
nikesshoes2011 2 months ago
@ThEDyNaMiTeBoY97 Oh hey there.
keeprockloud 2 months ago
6 times i mean
ThEDyNaMiTeBoY97 2 months ago
i love this series i restarted up your arnesal times
ThEDyNaMiTeBoY97 2 months ago
1:01 ownd haha
Quick4500 2 months ago
best game ever
lollipoprayza 2 months ago
nice game it was my 2nd ps3, and i loved it
Kimisary 4 months ago
ahh ratchet and clank that was a good old time
Dante3085 5 months ago 12
@Dante3085 Was? Still is. Ratchet & Clank All 4 One is a new game coming out. The series is still strong.
vgman94 4 months ago
Crack in Time looks way cooler...just imo tho
megakirby9 6 months ago
@zuluzulu1999 it dose not
Ronburgandy708 6 months ago
please tell me that this comes on the 360
zuluzulu1999 6 months ago
@zuluzulu1999 It never will. You made the mistake of buying a 360. Now live with your shame.
Gibix 5 months ago 17
@Gibix
lmao
itsnotozzyitsozzy 2 months ago
@zuluzulu1999 a Sony exclusive on Xbox? You must be crazy.
MadamKouassi 5 months ago
@zuluzulu1999
Don't worry about that comment. It's not a shame that you bought a 360. However you still might find a better game on 360. Just don't get upset about that comment.
PeacefulRaindrops 1 month ago
should i get this and a crack in time, or just one, i dunno....
Triixster 6 months ago
@Triixster yeh im also deciding if im going to get them i think ill get em both
btsksc0976 3 months ago
Garrrr!!! i need a ps3 right now!!!!!!!
TimeDevil747 7 months ago
I have these for my PS3, i wish it was also online. But i isn't.
Thebabe16 7 months ago
I'm getting a ps3 this weekend just to play this game plus mortal kombat
Ratchet629 7 months ago
Ratchet & Clank are such awesome games.
TheArmchairSoldier 7 months ago
Jak and Daxter anyone?
iMegaaaaan 7 months ago
Out of the future trilogy, I've only played crack in time. Gotta love the groovitron!
Makookla 7 months ago
I've just ordered a PS3, primarily because I want to keep playing these games!
It better be good!!... Of course it will :D
CH130295 7 months ago
@CH130295 na its boring , u wasted ur money ,,, lol jk :P
ajazaad 7 months ago
@ajazaad I have both my PS3 & the game now and I love it :P
CH130295 7 months ago
If you are a fan of RaC like I am, then you should definitly check out Otherworlds. :)
VincentVindicated 7 months ago
the sound effects when the glass is breaking is the same as in resistance fall of man.
Cubone96 8 months ago
im gettin this even tho its for children i cant wait to play this stoned
bajs47m16 8 months ago
Awesome cool great
ohdadiva 8 months ago
are Ratchet and Clank: Quest for Booty and Tools Of Destruction the same game?
TheSuperworms 8 months ago
@TheSuperworms not@all
TheRivalSwords 8 months ago
ratchet & clank and sly cooper are the best games in the world
NightSkater1000 8 months ago
@NightSkater1000 and Jak!
j3r3mysk8 8 months ago
crack in time is way better
eetu45 8 months ago
it really never gets old huh
vengeancesgn 8 months ago
I loved this game.. I had the fucking snowman skin... and the goddamned rocket launcher AND LIKE FULLY UPGRADED SHIT
AND MY GAME GOT CORRUPTED!!! FUCK YOU SONY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ImTheKobold 8 months ago
Ratchet & Clank and crash bandicoot is BEST
jacck123 9 months ago
@jacck123 yea i loved playing crash bandicoot when i was like 6-7 it was fucking classic
bajs47m16 8 months ago
This is the best game in my life
15padawaag 9 months ago
I HAD AL SERIES AND I LOVED IT
right from ratchet and clank 1
i missed the ps3 ones cause i dont have it but man its awesome
i loved ratchet and clank 3 moast but
now the new one called ratchet and clank all 4 one
INSOMANIAC THIS AINT RATCHET AND CLANK HE LOOKS LIKE A KID
traxgod2 9 months ago
which is better tools of destruction or a crack in time ?
jadfares96 9 months ago
noclip is so epic!!!
Pyromaniac153 9 months ago
Rachet and Clank Are great Games Especially if you play from beginning to the latest one so you understand the story
Infernoskittle 10 months ago
Comment removed
edit156lt27 11 months ago
the ratchet & clank games have always been great
edit156lt27 11 months ago
I wish i had a developer mode for all the games on the ps3, It would give me something to do once I beat the game. =D
coreyaustinmiller 11 months ago
Lol, I have all ratchet and clank games and my favourite one so far is Ratchet & Clank 3! Can't play tools of destruction yet because my Grandad is watching the stupid cricket. >:l
NinjaTuna24 11 months ago
@NinjaTuna24 what about going commando?
monkey1832 11 months ago
@NinjaTuna24 Respect your elders, you whiney little bitch.
iTroll87 11 months ago
O HES GOT HAX
jens3737 1 year ago
i love rachet and clank iv beat en all besides rachet and clanks for ps3 because i dont have one
TheMissjmccraney 1 year ago
cara vc é covarde pq vc n enfrenta os melhores monstros '-'
maribob19 1 year ago
so fã de todos os jogos dessa série
maribob19 1 year ago
Love this game. 2007 was a great year in gaming. God of War 2 came out, Crash of the Titans came out, Legend of Spyro: The Eternal Night came out. This came out. Good year and great games.
vgman94 1 year ago
um dos melhores jogossssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
maribob19 1 year ago
me legal esse gameeeeeeeeeeeeee aaaaaaaaaaaaaa uhullllllllllll
maribob19 1 year ago
only on ps3
nvm1ws 1 year ago
wish this was on xbox love them on ps2
KISSxMYxTIPPx69 1 year ago
@KISSxMYxTIPPx69 its never going to be on xbox because xbox sucks and ps3 is the best.
nvm1ws 1 year ago
Rachet and clank a crack in time sucks =P
cpdudetv 1 year ago
Honestly I like this game but they should have made this longer :P
EdmundoGrand3 1 year ago
Let me make this clear, This is NOT a damn disney movie, Its not a damn Pixar movie, so if you have ever said it reminds you of one SHUT THE HELL UP!!
The back of the game case says its like a pixar movie, it isnt.
Just because its got great animation it shouldnt be compared to Pixar, its better
StuBackbreaker26 1 year ago
Got this game for free, with my second controller and its pretty fun
Chrissie797 1 year ago
Woah woah woah, is that the Joba theme from Ratchet & Clank 2 I hear in the background??
Enraged10 1 year ago
this is for pc or other console
dragonoidmon1 1 year ago
I just got my Ps3 yesterday and I want to play Ratchet & Clank. But since I've never ever played this, I dont know which game I should start with? What would you guys recommend me?
ghillas16 1 year ago
@ghillas16
well the first ratchet and clank game was on the playstation 2. There are 5 ratchet and clank games on the ps2. If you really want to start the whole series just get ratchet and clank on the ps2. Then move on to going commando, up your arsenal, and ratchet: deadlocked. Those are the names of the games. The ratchet and clank games on the ps3 are ratchet and clank future: tools of destruction, future: a quest for booty (download fomr PSN) and future: a crack in time.
bigboom273 1 year ago
@ghillas16 Well, I also never played Ratchet & Clank, but now I want to buy the Ratchet & Clank Tools Of Destruction. Although I don't know, which kind of game you like, I can recommend you Borderlands, Little Big Planet, the Call Of Duty series (espacially Modern Warfare + Modern Warfare 2) and Need for Speed Hot Pursuit.
FightaOfDoom 1 year ago
@ghillas16 little big planet!
jellybeansies 1 year ago
I think the developers took drugs.Ive played R and C from the very beginning and I realize that every new R and C game gets more and more [insert word that describes how crazy this game is].
Disco Balls?Seriously?
But to be honest it makes fun like shit.
Daverdare 1 year ago
you cheated?! :O ;)
callumw3 1 year ago
what bout crack in time?
kurkelion 1 year ago
If I had to save one game collection in a building fire, it would be the Ratchet and Clank series. XD
CookieKing1 1 year ago
I want.
yokojackamotototo 1 year ago
how do you turn these codes 2:59??
hubertmdt1 1 year ago
Having collected all of the R&C games over the years and completing them, I can say this as good as it gets in my opinion.
The series seems to go downhill after this game is completed, QFB and A Crack in Time just seem gimmicky and complex, they just don't seem right... this is an excelent game though.
MilesPrower88 1 year ago
is ratchet and clank future tools of destruction the same as tod without the future!
uzumaki432 1 year ago
@uzumaki432 Yes :)
SpiritJaivyn 1 year ago
still waiting for a online RnC game like deadlock and RnC3-_-
RiVa667 1 year ago
@RiVa667 there is buddy its called ranket and clank 4 in 1 has online and everthing look at it on the website or gamestop.com
spainking1 1 year ago
hey guys got a question....what is the best ratchet game for ps3? thx
IdriveCaddy 1 year ago
@IdriveCaddy Crack in time
JohnnyBoy7267 1 year ago
The only stupid thing with this si that you have to run around collecting nuts and bolts - why they don't just fly off into your points or bag is just stupid - like the Lego games. It takes all the fun away from running around - having to go and pick up studs from dead Lego people
SirBounder 1 year ago
Pyrocitor is back! :D
iscrewy 1 year ago
does this game have trophies?
Derock177 1 year ago
this game is freaking awesome
sokkaTHEfox 1 year ago
WHATS THAT FOR A HACK BY 3:00 PLEASE HELP!
gtamodeler 1 year ago
@gtamodeler You can't hack it anymore. That was only for someone to change something while the game was still in development.
inFamousHero123 1 year ago
when u beat the game can u replay it with all ur guns and stuff
m3tal399 1 year ago
This game is sick your name is crap and you play ratchet and clank the worst so get lost
Yupozi 1 year ago
lol, noclip.
Exzmo 1 year ago
i beat this game in 2 and a half day
vidaett 1 year ago
Is this game only available for ps3?I want this game for my psp.
batzerz 1 year ago
Trust me, this game would suck if it were on the PS3. The graphics wouldn't be nearly as good. It's meant to be a PS3 game.
crassisdead 1 year ago
That makes no sense "the game would suck if it were on PS3" and then you say that "It's meant to be a PS3 game"?
deanriam 1 year ago
I meant to say it would suck if it were on the PSP.
crassisdead 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
i downloaded playstation 3 games for free on my Laptop. Google "ps3 zappy download" and click the first link. It's a excellent site! All the latest ps3 games are there for download on the "ps3 zappy download" site!
LirryBrooks 2 years ago
Nice Game! :D i will buy it when i will get my PS3 :D
RocO4Penguin 2 years ago 28
@RocO4Penguin my cousin got the game guns level up easily :P very awesome
IM2POKER3KING 1 year ago
3:00 u use cheats?
sexFuision 2 years ago
i finished this game in 2 days i loved it but shame it was too short do good thing is at the end you can do challenge mode and you can keep all your weapons and stuffs....
porsche911turbo323 2 years ago 3
top 5 ps3 games u must get in future:
modern warfare 2
assasins creed 2
god of war 3
ratchet and clank a crack in time
little big plane
dohgameman676 2 years ago
@dohgameman676 and resistance 3!
lversonAllDaWay 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
is this game fun cuz it doesn't really look like it
MaSteezynes 2 years ago
it reaaaaaalllllly iiiiis
ratchet0the0lombax 2 years ago
Well if you watched this entire demo and said it doesn't look fun, chances are you aren't going to enjoy it.
DrPuddings 2 years ago
im very confused do i get tod first and then ftod or what please help.
.)
.)
ImIruka 2 years ago
its way better after you beat the whole game you can use more weapon and armor ansd you have alot health
folconwolf 2 years ago
This Game is the best game i`ve ever played. Like all Ratchet and Clank games.
kingdomDonald 2 years ago 53
@kingdomDonald Ratchet and clsnk rocks..too bad I'e chosen Xbox 360 instead of PS3..I have a PS2....but I like Fable more..
sonicblast19 1 year ago
@kingdomDonald you obviously havent played Oblivion
UrialSeptimiv 9 months ago
does this game have online or multiplayer?
iReveiwz15 2 years ago
no, there's no online
chingly88 2 years ago
a crack in time is newer then tod but u should play tod first for the storyline,u rlly may not miss any of these games! :D imma get a ps3 on christmas to ,can't wait to play these games first!!! :D
jag0wnsu 2 years ago
same here
26thereviewer 2 years ago
im getting a ps3 for christmas too i have proof and i need to know which one of rachet and clank to get tools of destruction or crack in time
nikdudeworld12 2 years ago
crack in time
lambofgod2001 2 years ago
crack in time
TheValerieeee 2 years ago
im getting a ps3 this chrsmas im probly going to get both CANT WAIt
majinratchet 2 years ago
@majinratchet best buy in canada is having a sale, this game and a sony controller for $60
the controller is usually $55 and the games $30 so its a great deal
yiga94 2 years ago
is the lock strafe camera mode available?
happywazaa 2 years ago
not sure but it probably is. I see the lock strafe as a fail by insomniac because going from up your arsenal to deadlocked, where deadlocked required you to use lock strafe, didn't keep with the ratchet and clank style and it pissed off a lot of fans lol
FireXware 2 years ago
use*
1
1
v
IMasterShake 2 years ago
ratchet future series unreal engien 3 ???
IMasterShake 2 years ago
probably not because that would suck
FireXware 2 years ago
nothing but a bunch of fucking glitches cant finish the game and kill the final boss.
zabet04240 2 years ago
CAN SOM1 PLEASE REPLY, now that ratchet and clank crack in time is out wat is better tools of destruction or crack in time? tell me coz im gettin a ps3 soon
BenjaminEllett 2 years ago
crack in time is better tools of destruction is to easy
soad5111 2 years ago
a crack in time got a better rating from gamespot
XxTechTVxX 2 years ago
i would say get both (if u can afford) but first get Tools of Destruction b4 u get Crack In Time, cause its meant 2 be better than Tools of Destruction
guitarist6494 2 years ago
i woud suggest this 1 coz it it platinum so it means it betta
MrLiveforfootball 2 years ago
no its not its called doom blades hes upgraded it to
v5
masterprankr 2 years ago
game looks awesome1 and they utilize the controls of the sixaxis controller too
tehbomb100 2 years ago
i have the ratchet and clank series for ps2...im going to the play and trade videogame store today...they have this, mayb i can pick it up
2lazy4everything 2 years ago
this is only for ps3?? (BWAAHAAHAAA!!!:( if it is)
SpyTheNoob 2 years ago
sorry but yeah:(
kissmarton 2 years ago
This game looks much more impressive than Banjo Kazooie Nuts & Bolts For The Xbox 360
Naveen500 2 years ago
Agreed. Nuts and Bolts was a major disappointment compared to the BK games on the N64.
Mason1729 2 years ago
this game looks straight up amazing... I had a couple of the ratchet and clank games for the ps2 and I loved them. My ps3 slim is coming tomorrow in the mail (hopefully) and this and batman arkham asylum are my first games :)
danzizzle1 2 years ago
Good start :)
Tommykrem 2 years ago
Don't forget Uncharted 2 haha
FruschendrixFan01 2 years ago
i want a ps3 really bad now
tntproductions444 2 years ago
game looks sweet.. i lot different looking than the old series but still sweet. looks alot more realistic. man the ps3 has all the best exclusives. all the best companies working for them... definatly getting a ps3 next year.
Jdawggameslayer 2 years ago 2
lol woah you must have played streight for hours.
B2theRad55 2 years ago
yes it is. :D if your like me and try to extend the length of your games and unlock literally every little thing that can be unlocked then this game will last you several months. But the actually story will probobly take a few weeks. I took my time and explored around the levels alot and it took me just over a month to complete the story. Im still not done unlocking everything though and i got this early 2008
B2theRad55 2 years ago
I feel stupid for asking this... but what is the song called that the groovatron plays? he got the instrumental version stuck in my head... and I have nothing to google... :\
P.S. I have heard it before... just don't remember the lyrics...
TreyRust 2 years ago
the weapons are awsome
SizzlerTheGreat23 2 years ago
Got this game yesterday and couldn't stop playing it hehe, very addictive. Glad too, cause I haven't been able to find a decent fun game for PS3. I'm not saying I hate PS3, it's just seems like shooters and such is all that comes out for it so far. Too many shooter games out their, people need to get some better ideas.
pspboy7 2 years ago 4
is there still two player mode in this???
jamesfreedom123 2 years ago 2
Where da hell is Nafarious
ChairmanEdShepherd 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
I hated r&c before this game.
ChazShinRa 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
same. its a just a bad ripoff of microsoft and nintendo games mixed together.
buob1234567890 2 years ago
suck balls bitch. :\
toddmilhouse 2 years ago
the reason your getting thumbs down is dude, how can you hate such a great series? I love them all. the first is just as good as this one and all the way up. I know its opinion so i dont really care what other people think im just saying. :P
B2theRad55 2 years ago
Lol I want to like it coz I love the dev's but I just can't stand the kiddyness of it. hasen't it only just become like non-auto aim?
ChazShinRa 2 years ago
this is my favourite r&c game :)
salk3vol 2 years ago
he runs like hes programmed not like the old ones
mybuthurts123456789 2 years ago
4:07 Is the guy wearing a red shirt?
FavoriteUYA 2 years ago
do u mean the vender guy?
cottonwell 2 years ago
ya i do
FavoriteUYA 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
i hope it goes to ps2
ZippyKyle123 2 years ago
Are you serious?
Have you actually seen this game or are you blind?
Hawkofwar500 2 years ago
yah i seen the game it is for ps3
ZippyKyle123 2 years ago
Then you're previous comment portrays false hope :L
Hawkofwar500 2 years ago
forget him. He's a fag. He's a nintendo fanboy. trapped in his interior shell. fuck that fagggot ass.
toddmilhouse 2 years ago
in the european version u cant upgrade combat devices!!!!!!!!;(
streetcats16 3 years ago
Is this the USA version?
Ive got the european version, it sucks!!!!!!
streetcats16 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
i have this game played out 34 times i have 365678876789 bolts have all weapons omega vx also the omega R.Y.N.O 4-EVER vx the strongest weapon in all the titles of ratchet&clank,and all the skins and even got pirate swords instead of a wrench,if you need to know something add my PSN AsianDragon
kappandimaster 3 years ago
No you haven't
kirkkis 3 years ago 3
lol i believe he has that many bolts, its easy right. and all weapons upgraded cuz thats what i do too, i try to beat all the ratchet and clank games 100% but lets not go braggoing about it and wtf who plays through a game 34 times? and it just came out 2 years ago. know what im thinking, he has no life if its true.
B2theRad55 2 years ago
who names themselves asiandragon lol wtf
AoCranger 3 years ago
does any1 know if they will ever convert this to PS2? i thought they would since they did the same with size matters which was on PSP
sora845180 3 years ago
Size Matters on Ps2?!
Eldin120 3 years ago
hell yeah!
sora845180 3 years ago 2