Capoeira O Teatro Da Vida 1 of 2

[getitbussy]

daaamn he lied hard about the capoeira Angola

[cuskashow]

PONSEANINHO VC EH O CARA!!! PARABENS!!! CUSCUZ CAPOEIRA

[ashutosajii]

In general the material is nice, but there are some contents narrated about the capoeira and its roots that has no foundation!

Be aware about what you read and hear about Capoeira, there are a lot of curious saying different things on the way!

About the Capoeira de Angola, it was not created by students of Mestre Bimba, it is completely wrong!

The Capoeira de Angola was mostly developed by Mestre Pastinha, that really systematized it and gave a real shape to what is now a day Capoeira Angola!

[sabiorae]

"take care of your capoeira, and capoeira will take care of you." ...and by capoeira, it's more than just skills, tuition, or career. savvy?

[gchatzim]

@emdf1981

...perhaps I should note that I don't know you personally or have ever heard anything about you. I have also never trained under Poncianinho, but I've trained under a few Mestres/ContraMestres, and i've met several M.Poncianinho's students n friends. I just felt the urge to comment cause the negative attitude in your comments is not typical to a Capoeirista and in my opinion is kind of disrespectful towards a person who I am sure has offered a lot to Capoeira and his students.

[gchatzim]

@emdf1981

...where you pay tuition in order to learn and get a diploma. So I think you can not expect a Mestre to support, teach and welcome you to his classes just because you are paying him. If there is no respect they will not give you their knowledge.

Also, I believe that training for less than 3 maybe 4-5 years does not guarantee that someone has really understood the culture of Capoeira and the values it is based upon. Please don't take this as an offensive comment to you personally...

[gchatzim]

@emdf1981

Like every other martial art or sport/dance club you need to have discipline in order for the group to function right, to have respect and growth in the group. Therefore I believe there will be cases where a negligible minority of students throughout the group's life will have some conflicts with the group or the group leader himself.

I have trained with a few Capoeira groups and there was none that actually existed in order to develop "professional" Capoeristas. It is not a school...

[grurbanopt76]

"liberation at its finest"

[2004venice]

I loved being involved, it was a great day, Thank you!!!

Can't wait for the rain to stop for summer Roda's.

[emdf1981]

This is an interesting documentary that provides a very clean picture of capoeira. The reality is far more CLIQUE than FAMILY. Capoeira is a beautiful art form which unfortunately is not granted the professionalism and moral integrity that it deserves from thos who claim to preserve it.

I remember many talented students of CDOL who have not appeared in this documentary. I wonder why??

[emdf1981]

I was under the impression that the whole point of this section was to communicate our personal views, which, as it happens, is exactly what you have done.

[emdf1981]

@2004venice

The first comment I made is based on my own personal experience. The second comment, about certain students not appearing in the documentary, is open to interpretation. You are more than welcome to contact You Tube if you feel that it is necessary, but it is worth bearing in mind that this is not a fan page for Mestre Poncianinho, CDO or any other capoeira entity. If you post videos on You Tube you are inviting people to comment and you may not always like what they have to say.

[emdf1981]

From the horse´s (YOU TUBE) mouth:

We encourage free speech and defend everyone's right to express unpopular points of view. But we don't permit hate speech. Keep in mind that not everything that is mean or insulting is considered hate speech - this term only applies to speech which attacks or demeans a group based on race or ethnic origin, religion, disability, gender, age, veteran status and sexual orientation/gender identity.

[capoeirawmin]

Hi,

It's Michael, the producer here. I'm not going to get involved involved in the clique vs family argument.

With regards to your other point about using more people from the class, we felt that with the time limit for the programme we were given (15 mins) we could put across the feeling of what it is like and what it means to practice capeoira better by focussing on two people. If we do end up making an extended cut we'll shoot some more interview, for sure.

[emdf1981]

@capoeirawmin

Hi Michael I commend you on what is a very well made documentary. By highlighting the positive impact that Capoeira and particularly the "Master" can have on the students life, I think it goes without saying that when this relationship is abused, as it frequently is, the impact on the student can be quite devastating. The deleted comments posted by 2004venice (still viewable on their profile) highlight the need for change. Any self-respecting capoeira teacher would agree.

[emdf1981]

@capoeirawmin

The reason certain students have not appeared at all in the video is, I believe, that they were not there to be filmed. The constant threat of expulsion and the end of one´s career is an effective method of controlling and manipulating students. People are dedicating money and hours upon hours of training in order to realise a career in Capoeira and this can sometimes amount to nothing due to one person´s (the teacher´s) overgrown ego. This does need to be discussed.

[capoeirawmin]

we actually interviewed quite a few different students (about 15) at the big lesson shoot but the sound was all messed up so we couldn't use it.

We were not told at any point who we could or couldn't interview.

We also went to a few lessons to tell everyone about the shoot.

[emdf1981]

Sure, but you can´t interview students who have been expelled. This means that, whilst it is important to inspire, you will only be able to portray success stories. When things go wrong it is the students career and reputation which is damaged. Perhaps someday someone might interview those who "moved on". And ask what happened? How did you try to resolve it. The questions which the senior masters should be asking. It´s in their interest to ensure dedicated and talented students are not lost.

[capoeirawmin]

It was never our intention to look at the political side of Capoeira.

We set out to make a documentary highlighting the positive, not the negative aspects of Capoeira.

[emdf1981]

Of course, and I congratulate your work. I am providing an alternative perspective in response to the documentary which you yourself have admitted is higlighting only one aspect of people´s experiences.

[groubrango]

@emdf1981 I was just wondering what your background is? Have you ever done capoeira? had a bad expirience with a capoeira instructor? In my opinion I believe there are good and bad capoeira teachers and you should choose wisely.

[emdf1981]

@groubrango I attended 10 classes per week and trained for at least 1hr each morning in the street. I was incredibly dedicated and my Mestre supported my intention to develop a career in capoeira. My choice of Mestre was based solely on his incredible capoeira. He was also great at teaching. Unfortunately professionality and moral integrity were somewhat lacking. After only 2.5 yrs I had no choice but to leave. I

[groubrango]

@emdf1981 My history in capoeira is similar to yours. I also left a group together with some friends, some of them went rogue, they just train on their own and go to rodas. But i strongly recommend you looking for a new capoeira group, this time choose your master wisely try to choose someone humble not just someone that looks humble. I have only got now 2.5 years of capoeira experience, but I believe that you should not pursue a career in capoeira, you should just let it happen naturally.

[RLCD]

Very nice documentary.

I just don't really agree with the history part that dude was telling about regional and angola but...

[capoeirawmin]

@RLCD

We found that throughout the research stage there were conflicting accounts of what happened in the early days of capoeira. A lot of people we spoke to recommended Matthias Assuncao to us so we decided to interview him for the documentary.

[ndo84]

Great to see Baris and Mestre!! Makes me miss my CDO classes even more...

[feyth85]

Beautiful documentary!

[Humanoids]

@nijamzzz

I second that, heh.

A really nice documentary. :)

[capoeirawmin]

Link to second half of documentary is on the right in the information panel.