ten23 Homeopathy Protest - Sydney 2010

[MrPaPaYa86]

i feel sick, i take something homeopatic:

i heal: it works!

i don't heal: it will, keep on with the treatment! or u should change it!

i die: homeopaty was not enought

i take a lot of pills all together:

i feel sick: told you! it's a medicine!

i don't feel sick: it's the proof that it's superior than scientific medicine

and of course it works up on something nobody has never been able to find out in human body.. but if u point it out u're a vicious skeptic..

more or less like religion

[DizzzyKipper]

The heath food store hippies shooting down mother nature,funny ain't it?

Commies have the same glazed eyes as old Catholics.

The dreadlocks guy is wearing a wig,they are not cool,or smart. 

[Hopefulfilment]

Warning! Taking to much homeopathic medicine may cause obesity, diabetes and tooth decay!

[Lieu3C4]

You can say all you bloody well want but small shifts in consciousness can have significant results, let alone physiological significance compounded by such enhanced by a desire for a certain result one found otherwise impossible to attain.

[skepticzonepodcast]

@Lieu3C4 Ummm... what?

[mik99D]

Ahh but I bet you ended up being asleep about 12-14 hours later.

[cutes22]

Well, then when medicines are poured down the drain, we all should be getting medicated according to the dilutions theory.

[cutes22]

I love the Aussies. They don't go for bullshit like Americans do.

[DrNancyMalik]

Real is scientific homeopathy. It cures even when Conventional Allopathic Medicine (CAM) fails. Evidence-based modern homeopathy is a nano-medicine bringing big results for everyone

[DrLoafer]

@DrNancyMalik Really? What scientific study has proven this? Go take the James Randi challenge you fraudster.

[zoidsfan77]

Lol, that's pretty funny actually.

[farmerjohn010]

How many molecules pass through you when you get a magnetic resonance imaging scan?

How many molecules pass through the air to your mobile phone?

How many molecules pass through and complete a circuit through the air and through the steel in a horseshoe magnet, thus maintaining the field strength of the magnet?

The answer to all three questions is None. So therefore mobile phones, MRI scans and magnetism are all giant scams and anyone using them is delusional. It's beyond Avagadros 6x10^23.

[gotohell114]

@farmerjohn010

So you have displayed no understanding of the difference between matter,energy and the basic forces.

What was your point again?

[farmerjohn010]

@gotohell114 Studies have shown that a leading indicator for the early onset of dementia is a demonstrated inability to recognise sarcasm.

Alumina could be the indicated remedy for you. Do you have constipation?

[gotohell114]

@farmerjohn010

See the problem there is, sarcasm really doesn't work in a textual medium.

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Even now, I still am not sure if you are supporting or attempting to discredit homeopathy with your statement. But the suggestion of Alumina for constipation probably gives the game away.

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Homeopathy is right up there with scientology, christianity and Islam as far as disgusting blights on the world.

[BibleLovingAutomaton]

Overdose on homeopathic "remedies". That's very funny!!!

[LAnonHubbard]

Homeopathy is silly nonsense.

[tomclunie]

Be unfortunate if they all took one that does what it says on the bottle lol!!!

[Amygdala100]

@tomclunie LOL, you ignorant fool-certain potencies of homeopathic remedies are only available through prescription, due to adverse reactions!

[Amygdala100]

@tomclunie Arsenic used therapeutically in homeopathic medicines can cause clinical toxicity if the medications are improperly used. Arsenic concentrations in drinking water were normal but arsenic concentrations in samples of the homeopathic medications were elevated-See Clinical Toxicology

2003, Vol. 41, No. 7, Pages 963-967

[Amygdala100]

Obviously these opponents don't really know anything about the "real" scientific data, which is to be found within the major universities and hospitals. I check with the people who actually keep the data and it's certainly revealing that homeopathy is efficiacious!

[EdwardPalmerGKT]

@Amygdala100 I'm assuming that you'll be posting links to the peer reviewed publications of this data then?

[billinghs]

the whole stuff you took is only single dose it is the time gap which makes the second dose. Try to study & understand how Homeopathy works.

[skepticzonepodcast]

@billinghs ooh? So tell us. O How does Homeopathy work?

[globalist1789]

@skepticzonepodcast It works by removing money from suckers and transpherring it to Charlatans.

[Smithpolly]

@skepticzonepodcast Look, it's really simple. You take a dose. Then you take a "Time Gap" of say a few hours or until it gets dark or perhaps a few days until you feel like going to sleep ( it will vary from person to person because we are all different ) and then take another pill and you will fall asleep really quickly. The "Time Gap" is essential, though. Homeopathic sleeping pills can't work without it.

[Shukes2]

How homeopathy works is a very simple concept that i can sum up in two words: it doesn't

[adzug]

@billinghs it doesnt

[Aprilshowersss]

@billinghs The thing is homeopathic remedies have disclaimers on the package warning that in case of overdose get medical attention immediately. What the 1023 overdose is all about is to show that the pill contains NO active ingredients, and therefor not only will you not OD but it surely can't cure anything either.There is NO ACTIVE INGREDIENT in homeopathic preparations. It is a scam that depends on the placebo effect. The warning label is an attempt to make it a little more believable.

[islamis4cowards]

Homeopathic overdose = drowning

Homeopaths = frauds and fools

[MrsGanesha2009]

Oh boy!!!!! There is no medicine against ignorance, that's for sure.

And - by the way - You could be given some homoeopathic stuff that could probably rip your ass off. Try e.g. a Medorrhinum MM and take it daily for maybe two weeks ....or something like that...But no true homoeopath would do something like that.

[Schlezzle]

The video proves nothing, you're gonna get an effect from the tablets after 90seconds? Yeah right, sounds as flimsy as the studies you say support homeopathy.

[tashage]

@Schlezzle well, when you wrote that comment it had been a week since the video was filmed... have you heard about any deaths from homeopathic overdoses occurring all around the world?

[Amygdala100]

@tashage Toxicity

Some homeopathic substances are toxic (e.g., Aristolochia8, arsenic9). Even though homeopathic preparations are usually highly dilute, those with toxic mother substances may only be administered by prescription7. Most authorities assume that homeopathic drugs are safe as long as conventional medical care is not delayed; however, adverse effects have been reported in some studies1

Homeopathy Detailed Scientific Review: University of Texas-MD Andersen Cancer Center!

[edinburghskeptics]

@Schlezzle Erm, I'm fairly sure the Australian Skeptics are not saying they have studies that support homeopathy. I'm much more certain that they could present studies that disprove its effictiveness though.

[holycatsbatman]

Did Richard rob a bank to afford all this homeopathy? Is big pharma paying him to eat all natural medicines? Are all skeptics secretly consumption-assassins hired by the governments of the world to maintain the worldwide Illuminati conspiracy? Who's been screwing with my medicine?

I don't know, I'm just asking questions.

[tashage]

@holycatsbatman lol!

[etiterum]

hard to say how their bodies will react to this overdosing.

[zensorship]

I don't know. I'm neither a "believer" nor a "sceptic" (which tend to be just as fanatical as the "believers", see the infamous CSICOP organisation under the shabby Randi). I try to keep an open mind.

Why shouldn't homeopathy work, instead of this demonstration? The processes on the micro level are not always the same as on the macro level. Quarks, protons, neutrinos, atoms behave quite different from solid rocks or people. If you split an atom (a tiny thing), a whole city will explode.

[skepticzonepodcast]

@zensorship Skeptics keep an open mind too. But sometimes you have to stand up for science and reason. This stuff does not work and all the appeals to atoms or whatever will not make it work.

[zensorship]

@skepticzonepodcast

I don't know. I'm not a scientist. My "atom argument" was just an analogy, a metaphor, not a scientific hypothesis.

But as for the sceptics, I read Robert Anton Wilson's book "The New Inquisition" about CSICOP, and then I surfed the CSICOP website (now CSI). I just had the feeling they were as dogmatic about certain points as their counterparts. The sceptics believe in the Darwinist dogma ("evolution") yet make fun of the Creationists believing in their dogma ("bible").

[skepticzonepodcast]

@zensorship I know of no skeptic who 'believes' in evolution or regards it as a dogma. Who are you talking about?

[zensorship]

@skepticzonepodcast

Richard Dawkins!

[skepticzonepodcast]

@zensorship YEAH.. Shout his name from the roof tops! But really, who are these skeptics you are talking about? But then again, why are you changing the subject? Can you prove Homeopathy works as claimed?

[zensorship]

Dear skepticzonepodcast, it's your channel, and I respect that. But please don't drag me into the battlefield of ideological warfare. I said before I'm neither a believer nor a sceptic, I'm just a regular guy who's asking some questions.

Good day friend

[fredzfrog]

err, by taking lots of pills, arnt you (by homeopathic standards) under dosing?

if you all had shared half a pill, you'd be snoozing on the pavement! :P

[revjimbob]

Seems the cocaine dealers round these parts are homeopaths.

[manojeetc]

how the hell you know it doesn't work. What is not known is how it works . There is a difference. This video is garbage.

[skepticzonepodcast]

@manojeetc Thanks for watching.

[fleeced]

lol... we know it doesn't work because it has no active ingredients... they proved they don't work by eating a whole packet.

[optimumperformance]

What is the point of this video? You take prescription sleeping pills and you will feel no immediate response. I do know believe that homeopathic medicine has much validity however if you really want to debunk it to the public maybe you should conduct a more valid study. Sorry but this just make you look as bad as those who sell the homeopathic medicine.

[skepticzonepodcast]

@optimumperformance Homeopathy has been the subject of many valid studies and failed each one. But this fraud is still being sold. This video and all the ones like it are to help make the point to the general public that homeopathy does not work.

[barebowarchery]

Not only does it not work, there are no mechanisms in place where it is even possibly able to work.

I'm a subscriber from Ohio (USA); keep bangin' on!

~CHEERS~

[optimumperformance]

Actually there are studies that also demonstrate some validity however that is not the point here. The point here is that you just demonstrated the safety of these products rather than their validity. I am somewhat in agreement with you in regards to these products but this video does nothing to prove that.

[OMGSEASALT]

@optimumperformance

What? No they just demonstrated that they don't work.

[optimumperformance]

How's that..... I can take a whole pack of melatonin and there would be no immediate effect.... you saying melatonin does not work?

[rmephh]

Hello from the UK. Many thanks for the vid and for your support.

[PR0GRAMMING]

Homeopathy is a load of tripe. It has no evidence to support it. This message needs to get propagated more often as it's important. Well done to you people.

[manojeetc]

do it for 1 yr for the results

[greatant]

Take the sleeping tablets for a year, then I'll get sleepy?

[roflex2]

This is great, I fucking hate homoeopathy and people who believe in it.

Complete fucking idiots.

[554466551]

I never get tired of seeing homeopathy debunked.

Well done, gang.

[CameraPrincipis]

Well done to the Sydney "Suicide Squad".

[massivelord]

read the packaging for those types of homoeopathic sleeping pills

they usually say 'does not cause drowsiness'

haha

[MaikUniversum]

Now wait for the long long sleep....

[kensington25]

Awesome video. Wish I could have been there. Well done guys :)

[darthtanion]

OMG you guys that is so dangerous and reckless!!!! Don't you know how bad too much sugar in your diet is?!?! :-P

[69marius]

No desert for you kids.

[tehinfidel]

˙snƃoq sı ʎɥʇɐdoǝɯoɥ ¡sdɐɥɔ 'ʍoɥs pooƃ

[OMGSEASALT]

Noooo, don't do it, IT'S... IT'S HOMEOCIDE

[StopThatAstronaut]

Sorry I couldn't make it folks, glad (though unsurprised) to see none of you with ill-effects from the "overdose".

Was there enough sugar for a little sugar rush?

[bastardsheep]

Well, I did just wake up from a lovely nap, but I think the nap was more to do with the fact I went to bed after 1am and woke up at 6am. I don't cope well at all if I don't get in at least 8 hours sleep.

[garybne]

Oh no! Placebocide!!!

[cutes22]

@garybne LOL at placebocide.

[revolxaohemwolb]

but wait... if homeopathetics believe less = more, shouldn't a lethal dose of homeo sleep tabs have been none at all? :D

[onlyAerik]

Hey, no, I thought it was supposed to be on the 30th!.... fuck, you're in australia, it IS for you. crap.

[puttanesca621]

What do the pharmacists have to say about homeopathy? I have been wanting to ask my local pharmacy in Mullumbimby about why they stock homeopathic preparations but I am undecided about the approach to take.

[onlyAerik]

pharmacists will sell absolutely anything so they can make a living. Not an excuse IMO.

[reverendanaglyph]

It strikes me that the sugar in the pills might give you the opposite effects guys...