Very nice matee I can manage 3reps of 225. im 200lbs but i find it damaging to my shoulders if i go down to my chest. In my opinion I would go down to your chin at the lowest :D keep it up. Love your work
@Deathcap1 Personally, 45 minutes a day with paired - muscle training, for example training chest with triceps is very productive. It doesn't matter how long or how often you are in the gym, as long as you constantly reach a new stimuli, but also as long as you don't hinder yourself from new results, or past accomplishments. Train smart bro.
@06livefast 45minutes is ideal. If you take longer rest periods than 1hr is okay as well
Just like to put out that you can be in the gym, lift as much weight as you can, keep progressing, but if your nutrition is crap, then you aren't going to gain 1lb of muscle.
You have to be eating more than what your body is use to. You should be eating around 500cal over your daily calorie maintence level. That is how you gain size and muscle. Nutrition is the big thing.
@juicedmonkey1111 absolutely, nutrition combined with proper rest and recovery is just as essential as anything that puts your body through physical stress. Awesome input man, thanks!
People hating on this guy, I hate people like that. Let him do his thing, I'm sure he doesn't post it for people like u to talk sh:t. You people are probably the same ones at the gym that pair up in groups and just talk sh:t curling 25s and getting nothing done.
Ive read your position on the false grip. Whatever your doing is working, but i gotta tell ya that grip scares the shit out of me. Lotta weight right above ur skull and vertebrae.
The nastiest videos ive seen of lifters dropping weights on their bodies is from using false grips.
With that said.....you're a beast man. I hope to get where ur at. I naturally have very big shoulders but struggle with military press. I naturally have small arms, but I can curl like a beast. Go figure.
@A7XNCK i dont know what powerlifters youve been watching or reading about, but anyone of them will tell you the more muscle you use the more youll lift
I can do a seated shoulder press like you just did with 190lbs max 1 rep, but the triceps extensions (exactly the way you do) 8 x 155lbs. My shoulders are just very very weak I guess :p I weigh 262lbs @ 6 ft 5"
i am a somewhat strong kid for my size i weigh 195 and and looking to increase my military press to 250lbs and my closegrip benchpress to 300lbs would ed coan's training be good for these goals? and im a huge fan of ur lifts and dedication keep it up
Not shoulder presses, so "strict" is a misnomer. Pull yourself under the bar using your abs, otherwise it's an incline press, as you've done here. Check out Rippetoe's training vid for form.
@BRETZERR Your abs prevent you from falling backwards, just like in a strict shoulder press, only more so. Check out scooby1961's video, "Bench Press, Incline Press & Military Prs", and timdonahey's "Mark Rippetoe: Press Review". If you want this to be considered "strict", you've got to get your head under that bar ASAP. Getting the weight up first, using upper chest, then moving under the bar partway, is more of a crunch.
Ha, ha...okay...whatever you say. Call it what you want bro...I don't really care enough to debate it. You need to find a more constructive hobby then debating this type of shoulder press.
@BRETZERR It's a press, and you're using your shoulders, for sure. You're lifting the weight similarly to how olympic lifters do, so that's fine. You'll get more weight up by incorporating some pecs into the lift. I just take offense to calling it "strict", is all; that's misinformation that could be detrimental to some viewers of your video, and your own training, if you're really concerned about shoulder development. No big deal.
Now come on Jessy...was that really necessary...ha, ha...geez.
Those "uneducated" viewers are going to do just fine with this style of press and there would be no benefit to debating your anal point. There are many variations to presses including your grip choice, spacing, bar placement, elbow movement, etc, etc...
When I mention strict in the title, it is referring to only using my upper body to complete the press. I don't care what strict means to you.
@BRETZERR I don't care for people who don't care about spreading misinformation. The second hit on YouTube for "strict shoulder press", and the 6th hit on Google for it, demonstrate what it actually is. I'm sure you'd do a great job at them–you're getting an awesome amount of weight up with your not-shoulder press, and the adjustment shouldn't reduce the weight dramatically–but you're not demonstrating it in this video.
Okay, first off, let's back up a little bit...who said this video is a demostration anyway? Certainly not me. My videos were posted to document my journey from a 350 lb bench press to a 400 lb bench press. This is one of the many videos showing what I did to make that goal a reality. This is not a how-to-video on different variations of shoulder presses. There are many ways to skin a cat...
Second, this type of pressing is great for building power. 3rd..no misinformation here
@BRETZERR Your video is on a highly trafficked website, and is easy to come across even for people who have no idea who you are, or have no interest in your progression. It's mislabeled, and you don't care. If you're so insouciant about this, make your video private. I wish you'd just rename it, though, and have a look at what I told you about. Know more things better and spread better knowledge.
It's not mislabeled. Clearly you don't lift weights yourself. Scooby1961's video is discussing torso/spinal position during the lift - if you saw the side angle of this seated press without a back support, you would see that the bar is traveling in a vertical line that is in line with my spine. Thus, a strict shoulder press. Mark Rippetoe's videos are basically the same thing - trying to limit the laterial movement of the press to max your strength potential.
Also, I am not focused on driving my head through like an oly lifter. I do that when I hit behind-the-neck push presses, etc. With a false-grip, I keep my chin up with my eyes on the bar. This is the most effective way to hit shoulder presses for strength on the bench press (which is my focus). You can see a side angle on my newer video "Vertical Jump Training - Dec Training." That's a textbook strict press (i.e. the title will stay as is).
@JessyUV Quit hating on this guy for crying out loud. His form is great.
Get a life and quit trolling, I saw one of you're videos, and it's safe to say you are a scrawn. This guy clearly knows what he is doing. If he didn't he probably would not be as big as he is... I'd honestly be really surprised if you could even military press 135x1 with bad form.
You seem to know what you're doing, got any tips for a kid that's 15 and getting into body building?
I'm 6 ft. tall, and I weight 180.
I have a bit of chub but nothing to worry about, I got the perfect height and willing to spend as much cash as possible on any equipment, I'm really into it and can't wait.
My advice would be to just keep it simple for the first while. You don't need a lot of fancy exercises. Just do squats, deadlifts, bench presses, rows, shoulder presses, pullups, and curls. That's all you need...hit 3 workouts a week (like Mon, Wed, Fri) and make sure you get lots of rest and drink a huge amount of water.
which one is easyer to help build the shoulders bar or dumbells? i prefer the bar in my case and i feel with it i can increase weight faster then i would if i used dumbells. great lifting man, at the moment i can only do 132 pounds5 reps.
They are both great to do, but like the bench or any other pressing movement...you will get stronger faster by using the bar as your main strength exercise. Use the dumbells for assistance work.
Well done sir. good stuff. Question on the reps on bent over row - were they for both sets on military press? also, they seemed a bit slow (no offense), I am just curious what you meant by speed reps in that case. Overall - incredible strength bud. I should quit with the benchin so much and pound those shoulders more so.
Yeah, they were supersetted with the military presses. Yeah, they were slow, but that is as fast as I could do them at that time...probably should have lightened the weight a bit. I find it hard to pull with the lats and keep the speed up. If I pull too fast it becomes all arms for me.
@BRETZERR ya know, on second glance those were pretty fast reps, and I know what you mean, I have same problem will pull ups/chins, if I do it too fast it becomes too much bicep work. One more critique though (just for safety, watching out for ya) - grip without thumbs!! ahh my buddy had to have reconstructive surgery on his jaw/part of his face cause he dropped 250 on his face on incline. Overall though- well done. especially squeezin out that last 240lb rep!! good work
Thanks bro - I have spot racks in place, so I am not too worried. I have also benched this way for 20+ years bro. As long as you are lifting under control and within your means this grip is fine. Many, many top ranked powerlifters also use this grip...
Seated with no back support is much tougher than standing up. That is one hell of a lift for your size. This is my absolute worst lift! My max is probably 50% of my bench press.
Not too sure Tony....the most I have done from a seated position without a back support was 240 lbs....so somewhere around there I would imagine. I will have to work on these quite a bit more. Just started doing standing recently...when I started push pressing...
you are destroying your shoulder joints by those lift offs, place the bar higher so that you may grasp it from a height more natural to your body before lifting it off of the hooks when doing your no back support seated shoulder presses
the pullover is a called a pjr pullover. About the shoulder press, do you think seated is better than standing, and backless bench better than supported?
I was just messing around here bro - the clean was part of the fun because I suck at cleaning. If I fell backwards, I would just turn it into a bench press....ha, ha, ha...it's not enough weight to really hurt anything. Ha, ha...
What would you say is harder? Starting the Shoulder press like you did or doing a power clean to get the weight to the shoulders and repping from there for your set then starting all over for each set? Because I don't have a bench so I have no way to mount it. I do around 185 lb for 5 sets of 10 reps. Wish I had the amount of plates you have I damn near have to tie dumbbells to my bar sometimes lol
Cleaning the weight is definitely harder overall and pressing the weight without a back support makes it a little more difficult as well. You need to go shopping for some more weights then....get on it! Ha, ha...
I hear what you are saying....stabalizing yourself is half the challenge for sure. You get used to it pretty quick; this was the first and only time I have tried these.
damn you have incredible strength and what seems to be a drug-free built physique. love the precision and dedication in your workouts. keep up the great work
nice workout Randy, I still have to catch you on a few things, I have been taking it easy because of this shoulder but trust me I am not out yet! Congrats on the PRs and you, Mark, Kaz, Jared, and all the others I forgot to mention are my motivation to keep pushing!
Oh yeah,seated with no back support is way harder.That's the way I always use to do my seated dumbell presses.You have to use your core muscles like crazy to keep from falling backwards.I'll have to try this myself....225 lbs is very good!
Ha, ha, ha...let's go bro...let's see who can get to a 275 lb strict press. Try it sitting down with no back support....it's quite a bit harder I find (that's my first time trying it out).
I find it's hard to do a standing press without using the legs a little bit...seated takes away that issue completely. Try it out and see if you can still hit 2 plates.....you don't want this old man out lifting you...young pup!
ROFL :] i think standing is harder but ill give the 225 a go today seated! and 275 whould be sick as hell seated or standing! lol look like we have anouther race :p
lol i didnt get the 225 :[ i had it over my head and my triceps failed lol, i also pulled my pec a lil bit so i wont be bench pressing heavy for 2-4 weeks :[ but this will give me time to focus on my military press so ill keep posting on those and ill post some jumping videos :P
Brutal...hopefully your pec isn't too bad. Keep at it man...it won't take you long to get that - you are a strong dude. Plus, all that olympic training you used to do will come back quick, I am sure.
I gotta agree with ARMFIGHT. For me sitting without a back support, although extremely hard, is much easier than standing. Probably depends on your build though. I am a lanky turd so as soon as I stand I start wobbling all over the place. 215x1 strict press standing gives me a run for my money. Seated is easy to do the same thing.
wow dude you have sucha a nice gym at your house that i feel jealousy...hahaha... and that movement i think it's called pullover...anyway good lifts!ohh... and how your vertical training goin?
Thanks bro - my vertical is coming along nicely...although, I haven't been training it as much as I would like, given basketball and my deadlift focus. I will do more in the summer when I can get outside again.
awesome stuff as always big man! and that exercise you werent sure what to call, it seems like a mix of pullovers and really deep skullcrushers. you definitely had to have felt it in your shoulder's, chest, and tri's.
Thanks bro - yeah, I am definitely going to feel that in the morning. It was a huge stretch...I was also supersetting light dumbell curls with those pullovers (wasn't a good idea). We'll see tomorrow...
Hey idiot get a spoter next time
AlejandroN2r2 2 months ago
@AlejandroN2r2 I wouldn't say a spotter is necessary when dropping the weight wouldn't hit him.
EndlersaurusRex 1 month ago
how much can you jerk?
spartan1081990 2 months ago
beast
savagekiller99 3 months ago
Very nice matee I can manage 3reps of 225. im 200lbs but i find it damaging to my shoulders if i go down to my chest. In my opinion I would go down to your chin at the lowest :D keep it up. Love your work
FormulaVeeRacer1200 5 months ago
not bad, just keep it up, and remember by using alot lighter wieght with good form and full range of motion you'll get way bigger and stronger
shadowvowed187 5 months ago
wow gj man thats good for doing over your bodyweight strong shoulders
FitnessGuru91 6 months ago
how much time a week do you spend working out?
Deathcap1 8 months ago
@Deathcap1 Personally, 45 minutes a day with paired - muscle training, for example training chest with triceps is very productive. It doesn't matter how long or how often you are in the gym, as long as you constantly reach a new stimuli, but also as long as you don't hinder yourself from new results, or past accomplishments. Train smart bro.
06livefast 7 months ago
@06livefast 45minutes is ideal. If you take longer rest periods than 1hr is okay as well
Just like to put out that you can be in the gym, lift as much weight as you can, keep progressing, but if your nutrition is crap, then you aren't going to gain 1lb of muscle.
You have to be eating more than what your body is use to. You should be eating around 500cal over your daily calorie maintence level. That is how you gain size and muscle. Nutrition is the big thing.
juicedmonkey1111 7 months ago
@juicedmonkey1111 absolutely, nutrition combined with proper rest and recovery is just as essential as anything that puts your body through physical stress. Awesome input man, thanks!
06livefast 7 months ago
Pretty good. Those are the type of pullovers I do and work great :)
JackREst 8 months ago
People hating on this guy, I hate people like that. Let him do his thing, I'm sure he doesn't post it for people like u to talk sh:t. You people are probably the same ones at the gym that pair up in groups and just talk sh:t curling 25s and getting nothing done.
joeroganfan17 9 months ago
Great job.
Ive read your position on the false grip. Whatever your doing is working, but i gotta tell ya that grip scares the shit out of me. Lotta weight right above ur skull and vertebrae.
The nastiest videos ive seen of lifters dropping weights on their bodies is from using false grips.
With that said.....you're a beast man. I hope to get where ur at. I naturally have very big shoulders but struggle with military press. I naturally have small arms, but I can curl like a beast. Go figure.
StuUngar 9 months ago
Bending bar when doing seated OHP. Nice stuff man. Keep at it!
fredzxr 9 months ago
nice homegym
crippa1983 9 months ago
Why wouldnt you grip the bar properly? Dumbasses like this deserve to have it drop on their head
bigwalston0071 9 months ago
@bigwalston0071 i prefer to call it the suicide grip for a reason.
wohizz 9 months ago
ALWAYS lock your thumbs when you do alot of weight PLS!
nextlevel2burittos 10 months ago
thats retarted, ur using ur lats and triceps,,usually wanna break those two up
A7XNCK 11 months ago
@A7XNCK i dont know what powerlifters youve been watching or reading about, but anyone of them will tell you the more muscle you use the more youll lift
sinniist 10 months ago
I can do a seated shoulder press like you just did with 190lbs max 1 rep, but the triceps extensions (exactly the way you do) 8 x 155lbs. My shoulders are just very very weak I guess :p I weigh 262lbs @ 6 ft 5"
shotputty 11 months ago
The second exercise resembles a skull crusher :D
Tylershane17 11 months ago
great shit Man you get plenty respect
rhsmalcolm 11 months ago
sick set up i wish i had that. strong ass shoulders
dgwear69 1 year ago
@dgwear69 Yeah it must be great having to jerk that bar up from your waist. Not.
asparch 10 months ago
@asparch well the fact that he has a squat rack and bench with all that weight in his house is sick
dgwear69 10 months ago
thanks for the motivation Bretzerr!!! Props to you man!!!!!
GhostAvenger620 1 year ago
what is your routine
rossboss2010 1 year ago
i am a somewhat strong kid for my size i weigh 195 and and looking to increase my military press to 250lbs and my closegrip benchpress to 300lbs would ed coan's training be good for these goals? and im a huge fan of ur lifts and dedication keep it up
thart909 1 year ago
Hi Bretzerr.....
I am new to weight lifting
I think I could do with some advice from you.........
do you think you could help me out?
aknasa 1 year ago
I wish there were more serious weightlifters like you in my gym.
TheFabuloFetusFinder 1 year ago
@TheFabuloFetusFinder
Thanks - I appreciate the comment.
BRETZERR 1 year ago
0:33 You just gotta get that shit homie!!!! Make that money!!!!
TheFabuloFetusFinder 1 year ago
Not shoulder presses, so "strict" is a misnomer. Pull yourself under the bar using your abs, otherwise it's an incline press, as you've done here. Check out Rippetoe's training vid for form.
JessyUV 1 year ago
@JessyUV
An incline press with no back support? Ha, ha...okay...
BRETZERR 1 year ago
@BRETZERR Your abs prevent you from falling backwards, just like in a strict shoulder press, only more so. Check out scooby1961's video, "Bench Press, Incline Press & Military Prs", and timdonahey's "Mark Rippetoe: Press Review". If you want this to be considered "strict", you've got to get your head under that bar ASAP. Getting the weight up first, using upper chest, then moving under the bar partway, is more of a crunch.
JessyUV 1 year ago
@JessyUV
Ha, ha...okay...whatever you say. Call it what you want bro...I don't really care enough to debate it. You need to find a more constructive hobby then debating this type of shoulder press.
BRETZERR 1 year ago
@BRETZERR It's a press, and you're using your shoulders, for sure. You're lifting the weight similarly to how olympic lifters do, so that's fine. You'll get more weight up by incorporating some pecs into the lift. I just take offense to calling it "strict", is all; that's misinformation that could be detrimental to some viewers of your video, and your own training, if you're really concerned about shoulder development. No big deal.
JessyUV 1 year ago
@JessyUV
Not too worried about what you take offense to bro...like I said, get another hobby...
BRETZERR 1 year ago
@BRETZERR I've got plenty. Screw you for not caring about your less educated viewers.
JessyUV 1 year ago
@JessyUV
Now come on Jessy...was that really necessary...ha, ha...geez.
Those "uneducated" viewers are going to do just fine with this style of press and there would be no benefit to debating your anal point. There are many variations to presses including your grip choice, spacing, bar placement, elbow movement, etc, etc...
When I mention strict in the title, it is referring to only using my upper body to complete the press. I don't care what strict means to you.
BRETZERR 1 year ago
@BRETZERR I don't care for people who don't care about spreading misinformation. The second hit on YouTube for "strict shoulder press", and the 6th hit on Google for it, demonstrate what it actually is. I'm sure you'd do a great job at them–you're getting an awesome amount of weight up with your not-shoulder press, and the adjustment shouldn't reduce the weight dramatically–but you're not demonstrating it in this video.
JessyUV 1 year ago
@JessyUV
Okay, first off, let's back up a little bit...who said this video is a demostration anyway? Certainly not me. My videos were posted to document my journey from a 350 lb bench press to a 400 lb bench press. This is one of the many videos showing what I did to make that goal a reality. This is not a how-to-video on different variations of shoulder presses. There are many ways to skin a cat...
Second, this type of pressing is great for building power. 3rd..no misinformation here
BRETZERR 1 year ago
@BRETZERR Your video is on a highly trafficked website, and is easy to come across even for people who have no idea who you are, or have no interest in your progression. It's mislabeled, and you don't care. If you're so insouciant about this, make your video private. I wish you'd just rename it, though, and have a look at what I told you about. Know more things better and spread better knowledge.
JessyUV 1 year ago
@JessyUV
It's not mislabeled. Clearly you don't lift weights yourself. Scooby1961's video is discussing torso/spinal position during the lift - if you saw the side angle of this seated press without a back support, you would see that the bar is traveling in a vertical line that is in line with my spine. Thus, a strict shoulder press. Mark Rippetoe's videos are basically the same thing - trying to limit the laterial movement of the press to max your strength potential.
BRETZERR 1 year ago
@JessyUV
Also, I am not focused on driving my head through like an oly lifter. I do that when I hit behind-the-neck push presses, etc. With a false-grip, I keep my chin up with my eyes on the bar. This is the most effective way to hit shoulder presses for strength on the bench press (which is my focus). You can see a side angle on my newer video "Vertical Jump Training - Dec Training." That's a textbook strict press (i.e. the title will stay as is).
Feel free to post your own vid.
BRETZERR 1 year ago
@BRETZERR :-D I can't take you seriously after a soundtrack like that.
JessyUV 1 year ago
@JessyUV
That's what I thought...another weak response. Clearly you don't lift weights; you just enjoy commenting about shit you know nothing about.
BRETZERR 1 year ago
@JessyUV Quit hating on this guy for crying out loud. His form is great.
Get a life and quit trolling, I saw one of you're videos, and it's safe to say you are a scrawn. This guy clearly knows what he is doing. If he didn't he probably would not be as big as he is... I'd honestly be really surprised if you could even military press 135x1 with bad form.
Anyways, great lifts! Keep lifting heavy
Pbtbreakingpoint 1 year ago
BEAST!
fbking006 1 year ago
@fbking006
Thanks - I appreciate that.
BRETZERR 1 year ago
its really hard to motivate your self in a home gym
wesley2687 1 year ago
@wesley2687
I don't find that, but it depends on your personality I guess...
BRETZERR 1 year ago
@BRETZERR
I agree.
TheFabuloFetusFinder 1 year ago
your crazy strong bro. respect. how did you MP when you started training
wesley2687 1 year ago
@wesley2687
Thanks bro - I can't remember to be honest, but it wasn't much. Maybe 100 lbs...everybody starts with the low weights.
BRETZERR 1 year ago
Why does all of youtube hate on any video people post about lifting? If you think your better than this shit then post a video yourself!
GreenwayX 1 year ago
@GreenwayX
Well said...thanks for the comment.
BRETZERR 1 year ago
This guy does 3 workouts and totals like 25 reps all together, weak shit.
TubesteakNikka 1 year ago
@TubesteakNikka
Ha, ha, ha...for me, more is better. But thanks for the comment.
BRETZERR 1 year ago
@TubesteakNikka he don't look like weak shit ya cunt
xDarkside101x 1 year ago
@ryanlovessprite stop drinking sprite fatty
TubesteakNikka 1 year ago
You seem to know what you're doing, got any tips for a kid that's 15 and getting into body building?
I'm 6 ft. tall, and I weight 180.
I have a bit of chub but nothing to worry about, I got the perfect height and willing to spend as much cash as possible on any equipment, I'm really into it and can't wait.
Share some tips please? :)
RyanLovesSprite 1 year ago
@RyanLovesSprite
My advice would be to just keep it simple for the first while. You don't need a lot of fancy exercises. Just do squats, deadlifts, bench presses, rows, shoulder presses, pullups, and curls. That's all you need...hit 3 workouts a week (like Mon, Wed, Fri) and make sure you get lots of rest and drink a huge amount of water.
Good luck with your training.
BRETZERR 1 year ago
Skull crushers with 151 lbs, your pretty strong bro!
aSexyHamburger 1 year ago
@aSexyHamburger
Thanks bro - hopefully more to come.
BRETZERR 1 year ago
@aSexyHamburger those are not skull crushers lol xD as he said " pull over kinda movement "
OMGlookitsays666 1 year ago
@OMGlookitsays666 The reason why i said skull crushers is because it basically looks like a skull crusher lol
aSexyHamburger 1 year ago
nice man...not to be hard on you but it seems like you may need to work on flexibility in your right shoulder...keep up the good work!
Rellormaets 1 year ago
@Rellormaets
No worries mate...I would imagine both shoulders could use the flexibility work. Thanks for the comments.
BRETZERR 1 year ago
Awesome form, man. Good to see someone doing full-ROM.
frootlups 1 year ago
@frootlups
Thanks for the comments - much appreciated.
BRETZERR 1 year ago
Great Form, great lifting, great strength...That's quality lifting compared to the average youtube video. Great job.
Isidar1000 1 year ago
@Isidar1000
Thanks for the comments bro - much appreciated.
BRETZERR 1 year ago
I bet that 225 felt good.
spawn039 1 year ago
@spawn039
Ha, ha...hitting 225 lbs for the first time on any movement always feels good! Ha, ha...
Thanks for the comment.
BRETZERR 1 year ago
which one is easyer to help build the shoulders bar or dumbells? i prefer the bar in my case and i feel with it i can increase weight faster then i would if i used dumbells. great lifting man, at the moment i can only do 132 pounds5 reps.
uglykid4 1 year ago
@uglykid4
They are both great to do, but like the bench or any other pressing movement...you will get stronger faster by using the bar as your main strength exercise. Use the dumbells for assistance work.
Good luck with your training...
BRETZERR 1 year ago
solid lifting man
cmonalready66 1 year ago
@cmonalready66
Thanks man - much appreciated.
BRETZERR 1 year ago
Well done sir. good stuff. Question on the reps on bent over row - were they for both sets on military press? also, they seemed a bit slow (no offense), I am just curious what you meant by speed reps in that case. Overall - incredible strength bud. I should quit with the benchin so much and pound those shoulders more so.
pumabooma 1 year ago
@pumabooma
Yeah, they were supersetted with the military presses. Yeah, they were slow, but that is as fast as I could do them at that time...probably should have lightened the weight a bit. I find it hard to pull with the lats and keep the speed up. If I pull too fast it becomes all arms for me.
Thanks for the comments.
BRETZERR 1 year ago
@BRETZERR ya know, on second glance those were pretty fast reps, and I know what you mean, I have same problem will pull ups/chins, if I do it too fast it becomes too much bicep work. One more critique though (just for safety, watching out for ya) - grip without thumbs!! ahh my buddy had to have reconstructive surgery on his jaw/part of his face cause he dropped 250 on his face on incline. Overall though- well done. especially squeezin out that last 240lb rep!! good work
pumabooma 1 year ago
@pumabooma
Thanks bro - I have spot racks in place, so I am not too worried. I have also benched this way for 20+ years bro. As long as you are lifting under control and within your means this grip is fine. Many, many top ranked powerlifters also use this grip...
BRETZERR 1 year ago
Seated with no back support is much tougher than standing up. That is one hell of a lift for your size. This is my absolute worst lift! My max is probably 50% of my bench press.
soybean70 1 year ago
@soybean70
Yeah, they just take some getting used to I guess...practice makes perfect. Thanks for the comment bro!
BRETZERR 1 year ago
great lift, how long in training
SLISETV 1 year ago
@SLISETV
Forever...since I was 10 (I am 33 now). Thanks for the comment.
BRETZERR 1 year ago
What can you Shoulder Press Standing Strict currently?
0bigtony0 1 year ago
@0bigtony0
Not too sure Tony....the most I have done from a seated position without a back support was 240 lbs....so somewhere around there I would imagine. I will have to work on these quite a bit more. Just started doing standing recently...when I started push pressing...
BRETZERR 1 year ago
at 4:00 dude always BREIVE or how u type that =p
muzimuzi 1 year ago
you are destroying your shoulder joints by those lift offs, place the bar higher so that you may grasp it from a height more natural to your body before lifting it off of the hooks when doing your no back support seated shoulder presses
MrCaligulasse 1 year ago
@MrCaligulasse
Thanks for the warning bro....I don't do these very often, probably 5 times in my life. I was just playing around here. But thanks...
BRETZERR 1 year ago
@BRETZERR fair enough just concerned bro, i would hate to see more injuries caused by such a great sport as bodybuilding!
MrCaligulasse 1 year ago
@MrCaligulasse
Thanks.
BRETZERR 1 year ago
does standing on something work better when you do bent over rows?
kaylasawyers11 1 year ago
@kaylasawyers11
Just helps increase the range of motion at the bottom....helps get a better stretch at the bottom.
BRETZERR 1 year ago
thats very impressive im glad I see someone who is not loaded up on roids doing it lol those guys in the gym loaded on roids thing there the shit
ramostarr 1 year ago
@ramostarr
Thanks bro - I appreciate that.
BRETZERR 1 year ago
Impressive overhead strength
thoomoo 1 year ago
@thoomoo
Thank you sir! I appreciate that. I have hit 240 lbs this way since then...hopefully more to come...
BRETZERR 1 year ago
the pullover is a called a pjr pullover. About the shoulder press, do you think seated is better than standing, and backless bench better than supported?
7thSense 1 year ago
@7thSense
I think they are all useful tools that should be rotated through to get the most out of your training. Variety is key for improvement....
Thanks for the comments.
BRETZERR 1 year ago
Good video. Impressive.
I really like that set up. If you could post the name of that squat rack and bench, it would be much appreciated.
squarepox 1 year ago
@squarepox
Thanks bro - I appreciate the positive comments.
This is a Nautilus bench/rack set up.
BRETZERR 1 year ago
wtf?? i can only do like 2 10s on each side
for military shoulder press
my football team does like 25's on each side how the hell do you do a 45 with 35 and 10s wtf??
AndyAngelZ 1 year ago
@AndyAngelZ
You're young bro...give it time....you'll get there. Thanks for the comments...
BRETZERR 1 year ago
Nice video mate! Me likes a lot. Question, how strict should you go on should press? Slight angle or perfectly straight?
benniturd 2 years ago
@benniturd
Do a little of both bro....variety is good.
Thanks for the comment.
BRETZERR 1 year ago
you'd probly hit more with shorter J hooks; almost a half rep there on each lift off.
xboxforsuckas 2 years ago
Maybe....we'll see one day....
BRETZERR 2 years ago
awesome power & control bretzerr, really enjoyed watching, something to aspire to.........cheers
jamiejarman80 2 years ago
Thanks a lot for the great comment bro - I appreciate that.
BRETZERR 2 years ago
nice...but thumbs under??
sethhibbett 2 years ago
Thanks for the comment...
BRETZERR 2 years ago
Nice, i like that ur pushing urself throught the last rep at 5.16 :) many ppl quit when its at that peak of pain hehe, so nice job! :)
As for myself, I haven't tried max shoulder press yet, at the moment, i'm at 180 at 6reps in 3 set. Going for 190 next week,
Keep the good work up mate!
Eizbear1 2 years ago
Thanks bro - I hit 240 lbs on this the other day. So, I am slowly making progress here...
Thanks for the comments and good luck with your training.
BRETZERR 2 years ago
Thats one hell of a set up you have there. Really like all the options you have around you. Best home gym I have seen.
anarchyrealm 2 years ago
Thanks man - yeah, it's pretty sweet. I love it....
BRETZERR 2 years ago
i done sum of those clean/presses 2nite :) think i mite add theses 2 my shoulder routine now. thx 4 the idea :)
PETE9991 2 years ago
Great to hear bro - that's what it's all about.
Keep training hard.
BRETZERR 2 years ago
good job.
why not set the rack at neck level?
also, can you imagine what would happen if you fell backward while the weight was at shoulder level?
clearliquid 2 years ago
I was just messing around here bro - the clean was part of the fun because I suck at cleaning. If I fell backwards, I would just turn it into a bench press....ha, ha, ha...it's not enough weight to really hurt anything. Ha, ha...
But thanks for the comments....
BRETZERR 2 years ago
Insane strength man
LoBoExtreme 2 years ago
Thanks bro - I was just messing around that day....I appreciate the comment.
BRETZERR 2 years ago
that pullover movement would rip my shoulders in half. sick!!
isphius 2 years ago
Ha, ha, ha....thanks bro - I appreciate the comment.
BRETZERR 2 years ago
no prob im trying to get my shoulder press up to 225. My max now is like 180-185. Its going to pass my bench soon!
isphius 2 years ago
That's pretty good bro...keep it up!
BRETZERR 2 years ago
What would you say is harder? Starting the Shoulder press like you did or doing a power clean to get the weight to the shoulders and repping from there for your set then starting all over for each set? Because I don't have a bench so I have no way to mount it. I do around 185 lb for 5 sets of 10 reps. Wish I had the amount of plates you have I damn near have to tie dumbbells to my bar sometimes lol
0bigtony0 2 years ago
Cleaning the weight is definitely harder overall and pressing the weight without a back support makes it a little more difficult as well. You need to go shopping for some more weights then....get on it! Ha, ha...
Thanks for the comment.
BRETZERR 2 years ago
Do you ever find yourself falling back a bit when you do those? Maybe the first few times?
MTLkayaker 2 years ago
I hear what you are saying....stabalizing yourself is half the challenge for sure. You get used to it pretty quick; this was the first and only time I have tried these.
Hopefully more to come...
BRETZERR 2 years ago
damn you have incredible strength and what seems to be a drug-free built physique. love the precision and dedication in your workouts. keep up the great work
getatme120 2 years ago
Thanks dude.....that's a very nice comment. I appreciate that a lot. It's always nice to hear great feedback. (and yes, I am completely natural)
BRETZERR 2 years ago
btw =p it annoys me when someone says ''i put 210 on the bar''
cause technically you are putting 165 on the bar =p.
rctriplefresh5 2 years ago
True, but whatever....
BRETZERR 2 years ago
amazing shoulder strength randy. I CONSIDER PRESSING your bodyweight to be elite, but to press a lot mroe than it is just insane. great job!
rctriplefresh5 2 years ago
Thanks bro - this was a fun change. Hopefully I can get 250 lbs this way one day...
BRETZERR 2 years ago
i have the same nautilus workout station thing that you have lol...i love it, its great
donnie4492 2 years ago
Amen...it's an incredible peice of equipment. Thanks for the comment.
BRETZERR 2 years ago
nice workout Randy, I still have to catch you on a few things, I have been taking it easy because of this shoulder but trust me I am not out yet! Congrats on the PRs and you, Mark, Kaz, Jared, and all the others I forgot to mention are my motivation to keep pushing!
Gabe
409man 2 years ago
Thanks Gabe. Looking forward to seeing you progress safely. Keep at it man...
BRETZERR 2 years ago
Good job Randy, you had some very interesting lifts - good way to keep it fresh
j0540212 2 years ago
Thanks J. I was just messing around trying out some new stuff...kind of making it up as I went.
BRETZERR 2 years ago
bueno parece como.....oh thats right, well it looks like a good lifting day for you a PR again :)
CertifiedOddBall 2 years ago
Ha, ha....thanks bro...hopefully more to come!
BRETZERR 2 years ago
Oh yeah,seated with no back support is way harder.That's the way I always use to do my seated dumbell presses.You have to use your core muscles like crazy to keep from falling backwards.I'll have to try this myself....225 lbs is very good!
HHH396 2 years ago
Ncie man Kep the vid's coming :)
iouachan7 2 years ago
Thanks bro - will do...
BRETZERR 2 years ago
Nice Press we are pretty much = strength on the military press i have you in weight, but you got me in age... lol keep it up old man :p jk
ARMFlGHT 2 years ago
Ha, ha, ha...let's go bro...let's see who can get to a 275 lb strict press. Try it sitting down with no back support....it's quite a bit harder I find (that's my first time trying it out).
I find it's hard to do a standing press without using the legs a little bit...seated takes away that issue completely. Try it out and see if you can still hit 2 plates.....you don't want this old man out lifting you...young pup!
BRETZERR 2 years ago
ROFL :] i think standing is harder but ill give the 225 a go today seated! and 275 whould be sick as hell seated or standing! lol look like we have anouther race :p
ARMFlGHT 2 years ago
lol i didnt get the 225 :[ i had it over my head and my triceps failed lol, i also pulled my pec a lil bit so i wont be bench pressing heavy for 2-4 weeks :[ but this will give me time to focus on my military press so ill keep posting on those and ill post some jumping videos :P
ARMFlGHT 2 years ago
Brutal...hopefully your pec isn't too bad. Keep at it man...it won't take you long to get that - you are a strong dude. Plus, all that olympic training you used to do will come back quick, I am sure.
Looking forward to the jump vid's...
BRETZERR 2 years ago
yea its not too bad, it just a minor tear.
ARMFlGHT 2 years ago
I gotta agree with ARMFIGHT. For me sitting without a back support, although extremely hard, is much easier than standing. Probably depends on your build though. I am a lanky turd so as soon as I stand I start wobbling all over the place. 215x1 strict press standing gives me a run for my money. Seated is easy to do the same thing.
jlinteris 2 years ago
Can you hit 2 plates seated? Standing? Give it a try if it fits in your workout plan...
BRETZERR 2 years ago
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jlinteris 2 years ago
Great session bro... I want to come up this summer and train... Big and Strong!
ocpowerlifters 2 years ago
Thanks D...I am on the other side of the world from you bro! Ha, ha...I am in Edmonton, Alberta (west). Aren't you on the east coast somewhere?
BRETZERR 2 years ago
wow dude you have sucha a nice gym at your house that i feel jealousy...hahaha... and that movement i think it's called pullover...anyway good lifts!ohh... and how your vertical training goin?
monkeris 2 years ago
Thanks bro - my vertical is coming along nicely...although, I haven't been training it as much as I would like, given basketball and my deadlift focus. I will do more in the summer when I can get outside again.
BRETZERR 2 years ago
LOL yur gonna run out of weight plates they way you getting stonger!
SlamDunkThaFunkJosh 2 years ago
Ha, ha, ha....that would be pretty cool. But that's a long ways away since I have at least 700 lbs of weights! ;-))
BRETZERR 2 years ago
great studd as always! amazing strength!
tlast2012dude 2 years ago
Thanks bro - I was just messing around. More to come.....hopefully...
BRETZERR 2 years ago
Damn if I did those my shoulders would have probably dislocated. :P Nice lifts!
contact29 2 years ago
Ha, ha, ha....yeah, they give quite a stretch...thanks for the comment.
BRETZERR 2 years ago
awesome stuff as always big man! and that exercise you werent sure what to call, it seems like a mix of pullovers and really deep skullcrushers. you definitely had to have felt it in your shoulder's, chest, and tri's.
imperiumXX 2 years ago
Thanks bro - yeah, I am definitely going to feel that in the morning. It was a huge stretch...I was also supersetting light dumbell curls with those pullovers (wasn't a good idea). We'll see tomorrow...
BRETZERR 2 years ago