New Deciet in Christian Evangelism - Deedat 10 of 10

[BonjourNuit120]

Indeed as Deedat stood before his audience, he was already dead to the truth.

He claimed a new deceit in Christian Evangelism when only Muslims are told to lie for their faith. Christians are told to be honest as they know God hates liars and murderers and calls them Satan. Indeed lying and killing for Islam, is what Muslims have done since Islam began onto this very day.

If anyone deceives People, it is such people as Deedat

[BonjourNuit120]

Deedat tried to accuse Christian Evangelism of doing a deceit because in his own ignorance, he kissed Arabic writings. In Saudi Arabia, it is forbidden for anyone to carry a Bible and Christian Missionaries are imprisoned and some are killed. The only deception there is on earth is Islam itself that pretends it is a religion of peace when Islam is war. Our Secular nations allow Islam to thrive among us when Islam is Imperialism and it hates non Muslims

[psychlopes1976]

OK , I just had to answer the ones that you sent earlier, I'll call it a day for now, awaiting your "certain" return I'm sure with more unsupported claims and accusations against Islam, that you have no proof for, and expect people to believe you just because you say them with such intensity and zeal.

[BonjourNuit120]

you accuse me of giving you unsupported claims when only Muhammad did that

But accusations I have against Islam is to prepare you when God will tell you these things

Islam is war against the non Muslim, proof is the Quran itself

Islam is not from God but uses God in quest of world domination, for God does not use liars, haters and murderers such as Muhammad and terrorists to teach of God's mercy,compassion and forgiveness for true servants of God always and only reflect those qualities

[psychlopes1976]

No, that was not from the Hadith you quoted, the one you quoted before had no mention of lying about Islam. As for what you are referring to now, it's about Muslims being tortured or fear for their life, and that it's OK not to reveal oneself as being a Muslim publicly if he/she fears being oppressed or killed because of it. Again, it doesn't say anything about lying about what Islamic theology or what Muslims believe in.

[telur2606]

was this talk in Malaysia???

[zubairhussain86]

Any body knows what is the name of that little book ?

[Learningaboutcomic]

May Allah(s.w.t.) grant brother Sheikh Ahmed Deedat Jannah for his tiring work. Ameen.

[psychlopes1976]

Bonjour , you are really persistent I'll give you that. But don't try to justify what your Christian brethren did and still do. You will find no Muslim resorting to such despicable means in order to invite Christians to Islam. The best you can do is say that they don't represent all Christians, but please don't kid yourself and others by saying they are not doing anything wrong. What they did is appalling.

[BonjourNuit90]

If Deedat saw the Christian bible written in Arabic, that is because the Bible was translated into all the languages on earth and what is so wrong with that for I read the Koran in English

In Saudi Arabia it is illegal to carry a Bible but you people come into our nations attacking my religion because the Koran teaches to exalt Islam over other religions when only Islam began with a false prophet as the messiah was the last of the true prophets

[psychlopes1976]

And my friend that is not the Christian bible printed in Arabic it is the bible made to look like the Quran. If you do not think that is deceitful then my friend you ARE misguided. if it is illegal to carry the bible in Saudi Arabia, then it's because we KNOW it is not the word of God.

[BonjourNuit90]

That is what Deedat claimed, but again Deedat lied and once he lied, nothing he says has value to me

I listened to his tapes, he is accusing them of putting the Bible under the cover of the koran, as if any Muslim would not know the Koran

It is illegal to carry the bible in Saudi Arabia because you Muslims are oppressors

and that does make Islam a true religion and it does not make the bible invalid

It only means Saudi Arabia is oppressive

[psychlopes1976]

If I had a book of science teaching wrong scientific facts, then by all means I'm all for banning it. If that makes me a suppressor of the "freedom of speech" then let it be. If not wanting my child to read a perverted book where even holy prophets allegedly commit the most heinous sins, if that makes me undemocratic, then I'm fine with that.

[BonjourNuit90]

Only Muhammad perverted the Bible with his false claim because the Bible proved he was a false prophet

Only Muhammad married a child, had sex with his daughter and took his adopted son's wife and started wars for booty and female slaves

[psychlopes1976]

He married a girl of childbearing age. Which is more than anyone can say about what your prophets allegedly did in their days, Juda allegedly had sex with his daughter in law, Lot's daughter had sex with him .... etc. Examine your own bible made of glass before you throw stones at others.

[BonjourNuit90]

Those who convert do so because they are tired of being persecuted and oppressed

Furthermore, Islam is easy to learn and to follow as it teaches nothing and all one has to do is defend Muhammad as if he was God's partner

So your lies are exposed

[psychlopes1976]

That is a blatant lie, any Muslim who prays to Mohammad, or think that he is divine in any way other than a prophet is not a Muslim, we do not associate any partners with God ... but wait YOU DO. and you do it openly.

My lies are exposed. Amazing, you have the worst logic ever, my lies are exposed even though you have not provided even the slightest shred of evidence!!!!!!!!!

[BonjourNuit90]

No Muslim prays to Muhammad but they praise him as if he was God and they defend him and they believe him more then they believe in God

because they can relate to Muhammad they cannot relate to God

Do you have any painting of Muhammad, no why not?

You do not associate partners to God, how about when Muhammad said obey me and allah or I am your protector and so is allah or the spoils of war belong to allah and his apostle

That is making himself Equal to God

[psychlopes1976]

Lies my friend, you are twisting the words of the prophet, as for not having paintings of the prophet, we don't allow paintings of any prophet, does that mean we make every prophet a partner to God?

[BonjourNuit90]

Only your beliefs are lies and these lies will hurt you as well as all Muslims including your own little children

No one is twisting the words of Muhammad, they are as they are, and they make Muhammad equal to God all the while deny it

Oh you do not allow the paintings of any prophet, are they all God in your Muslim mind?

[09Discovery]

It's probably illegal to carry it because of the many verses(mostly in the old testament) that refer to horrible acts of violence and instances of pornographic romance. And the fact that is is attributed as the 'word of God' is unlikely to be appreciated by the Saudis.

[BonjourNuit90]

Muslims resort to worst tactics such as oppressing Christians, burning their businesses, homes, and churches

While it is illegal to carry a bible in Saudi Arabia, you Muslims exploit our system to attack my religion with your ignorance of it

Here you write me when I wrote here a year ago, you fool

Why was Deedat kissing the writing, doesn't he know writing is a craven image and it is not sacred writing when Arabic existed long before Islam existed

[psychlopes1976]

Now you're the fool, listen to the video again, and you will know why he kissed it.

[BonjourNuit90]

Deedat kissed the writing because at first glance he saw it was arabic but unpon closer inspection he realized it was arabic writing on Christianity and that is what got him upset

Too bad because here he is with a thousand videos attacking my religion with his ignorance

[psychlopes1976]

Disagreeing with someone is not deceiving. Deceiving is when the means with which you try carry your point or view across depends on fraud and lies to "bait" the other side into agreeing with you, when you have nothing solid to offer. Debate with us all you want, but don't try to reach our children and weaklings using twisted methods.

[BonjourNuit90]

It is ok to disagree but the Koran does not agree with you

While you have your religion and I have mine, the Koran still teaches God only accepts Islam which is a lie when only Islam does not come from God

Deedat does deceive people and God does not need liars to teach the truth about God, only Satan needs liars

I do not seek anyone's agreement, I seek to inform accurately the truth

Evanelism is not deceitful

Deedat is deceitful and your children will learn that the hard way

[psychlopes1976]

The problem with you BonjourNuit is that you think merely saying these things make them true. You have no argument. Saying something does not make it true, you are fighting against God not with him, We do not deceive, we teach the truth, you're the one who have been deceived by your priests a church. You will burn in hell, and you will burn hard.

[BonjourNuit90]

The problem with you is when Muhammad and all Muslims speak their opionion, you assume it is the God's truth but when I speak then you claim I am merely speaking

Look in your own Koran, where is any proof?

There is none, there is only threats and briberies

In our nations we can question our religion and any religion but you can only reject all other religions yet never question your own when only your religion is from satan that is why you Muslims attack my religion

[psychlopes1976]

My ultimate proof is this, make one Surah like it and I will believe you. I don't want an entire book of failed attempts. Just one Surah, and get me an objective "christian" Arabic language scholar, and he will laugh at whatever you present. This is our everlasting proof. Millions of Arab Christians and Atheists, and not one over the period of 1400 years was able to meet that challenge. If you can prove that challenge wrong, I would convert to Christianity or even Atheism., but you can't.

[BonjourNuit90]

Arabic is a natural rhyming language and the 1001 Arabian Nights has more truth and wisdom than does the Koran

Why should I labor to give you an objective christian arabic language scholar when you are forbidden to doubt or question the koran

you are only permitted to reject my religion

so don't lie you can't convert to christianity for other muslims would hate you and some would even kill you

[psychlopes1976]

My friend thousands of Christians and Athiests live in Arabic and Islamic countries, they are minorities and no one would ever try to force them to convert. In Jordan for instance I've never heard of an instance of Muslims breaching to them about Islam, you know why? they live in a Muslim society and they know what Islam stands for, those who want to convert do so on their on volition. So your claim is invalid and has no grounds.

[BonjourNuit90]

Perhaps thousands of Christians live in Islamic nations only because these nations were once Christian but the majority were forced to convert to Islam such as Egypt, Turkey, and most of the Middle East and the remain Christians are severally persecuted and when Muslims become extra insane, they burn the churches, businesses and homes of these oppressed Christians

Indeed they do know what Islam stands for, its stands for oppression, hatred, violence, exploitation and all the ills of man

[psychlopes1976]

No you contradict yourself., the majority were forced to become Muslims... yeah right, and those were the "last men standing" LOL. Muslims do not burn churches , Christians burn mosques, and if some ignorant Muslims respond in kind, that is only because they were provoked by mosque and Quran burning Christians.

[BonjourNuit90]

That you claim Muslims do not burn churches is a lie

Christians do not burn mosques

You are twisting the truth but that is because you are a Muslim and Muslims were born to twist the truth

[psychlopes1976]

Do some googling my friend, incident of Christians burning mosques are all over. But know this, they are both ignorant and they do not reflect on the truth of the message itself. so Don't make the mistakes of the followers the mistake of the religion itself, else take a look at the inquisition.

[BonjourNuit90]

Don't you know that Christians were persecuted for 320 years by the Roman Empire, then this empire made Christianity their official religion while maintaining their oppressive ways and later transforming into the Ottoman Empire

Each person who has ever lived is accountable for the wrong he or she has done and Muhammad is no exception

[psychlopes1976]

"Christians do not burn mosques Yeah right!!!! Obviously you're not big on World news.

"Muslims were born to twist the truth " What a lame childish, 5th grade-like accusation. You have nothing to prove your point , so you resort to such cheesy claims.

[BonjourNuit119]

Face the facts, Islam is war against all non Muslims

That is not my invention, that fact is in the Quran

Christians in the Middle East were once the Majority forced to convert to Islam as all of Saudi Arabia once converted and Islam spread in quest of power, fortune and female slaves

Christians now are the minority in the Middle East and they are subject to oppression, when ever the Muslims become angry they take their anger out on the Christians

and To lie for Islam is a duty

[psychlopes1976]

"Face the facts, Islam is war against all non Muslims" er... NO!!! that's only what you try to convince yourselves of, to justify why you're so hell-bent on not seeing the obvious truth of Islam. "Christians in the Middle East were once the Majority forced to convert to Islam" They were once a majority, yes, forced, BIG NO, no individual was ever forced to enter ISlam, and you have no proof to support your claim, other than more unsupported claims.

[psychlopes1976]

"when ever the Muslims become angry they take their anger out on the Christians " The way I see it is the other way around, its the Christian western world that has always took out all sorts of frustration, greed, and need for domination on Muslims all around the world, think of Imperialism, when Muslims act against Christians its when they are usually reacting to oppression. We have no problem with Christians just for being Christians.

[BonjourNuit120]

Many times Muslims provoked the Americans, boming embassies, attacking ships, dragging dead soldiers through the streets, and Americans did nothing, but then Muslims robbed passenger planes and attacked United States, and this nation has the right to defend itself

Islam is Arab imperialism, it began with a man greedy for spoils and female slaves and offered men these rewards

So Stop lying because only Islam desires to conquer the world

[psychlopes1976]

Although I believe many of those acts you are talking about were frame ups that Islam is innocent of (yes, its been proven that many co called terrorist acts were done to frame Muslims and Arabs), but are you really stupid enough to say that the ones that were actually done by Muslims are unprovoked? are you BLIND? look around your America is running wild, invading, and supporting oppression. Get REAL!!!

[BonjourNuit120]

America took the world out of the dark ages and brought to them electricity, cars, airplanes, computers, which you benefit from

Americans helped the world with no desire to dominate it

Only Muslims hate the Americans for they believe Americans helped the Jews win 2 wars against them

Without the Americans, you would still be drinking camel piss and cooking your food with camel dung

[psychlopes1976]

the Islamic nation was a beacon of knowledge and science when your people were still neck deep in the dark ages, so what if the scales of technology and science are tipped in your favor today?? its not the measure of whether a religion is true or false. ... Now you proved to me how blind you are!!! America is all about domination. But new school domination, instead of old school imperialism.

[psychlopes1976]

"Without the Americans, you would still be drinking camel piss and cooking your food with camel dung " You must be confusing Islam with the bible, we're not the ones cooking food with dung (human no less). See how hateful you turn out to be when you're cornered, I think you need to come out of the hate closet, and let people see you for what you are.

[psychlopes1976]

"Only Muslims hate the Americans" ... you're so delusional, the entire world hates Americans, but all for different reasons, get off your high horse of blind patriotism for minute or two and you'll see that you're not the good guys, you are THE bad guys of the world, at least those governing you like sheep, talking you where they want you to go.

[BonjourNuit120]

There is no truth of Islam other than Islam uses God in quest of world domination

Proof is the Quran itself with its 100 suras on hatred and violence towards non believers of Muhammad

Wage war with the infidel until Islam is professed 48-16

Strike terror into the infidel, 8:12 strike off their heads until you make a great slaughter from among them 47:4

wage war with those whom the scriptures been given 9:29

So stop lying to yourself

War is only Complusion and Islam is only war

[psychlopes1976]

Its amazing how you are all well trained in the art of quoting verses out of context, as if Muslims don't know the true context of those verses you're quoting, I'm not lying to myself, you're lying to everybody else, as well as yourself about Islam. You know nothing about Islam, which I'm proving in my comments, yet you talk as if you're the utmost authority on it. You know about Islam as much as I know about Hinduism, which is to say "very little".

[BonjourNuit120]

No one quotes the Quran out of context as it is a choatic throw together of thoughts, look in the sura Women, it says in 4:50 to you whom the scriptures have been given believe in what WE have sent down confirmatory of the scriptures which is in your hand, ere we efface your(facial) features and twist your head round backwards

I am trained by God to expose the truth from falsehoods for the lies you believe in will hurt you

I know Islam is not from God and that is all I need to know

[psychlopes1976]

"I know Islam is not from God and that is all I need to know " Well in that case my friend, YOU KNOW NOTHING. Because without Islam you have no salvation, and it will be a shame to see a good person go to hell because Satan played the ultimate trick on him and convinced him that God is 3 in on1 and he's a father and a son, and he died and he lived, and he loves you and he will burn you , and we're sinners but God had to die to forgive our sins... COME ON!!! And you're talking about Islam???

[psychlopes1976]

Taqiyya is not from ISlam all together, and even though you quoted a hadith excusing some people lying to do more good than harm (with no reference to lying for Islam) you were deceitful enough to neglect the HUNDREDs of hadiths and Quran verses condemning lying and forbidding it categorically. That is the characteristics of a HATER. YOU are the liar now, until you can bring me an Islamic source other than the one I just shot down for you, allowing Muslims to lie for the sake of Islam... LIAR!!!

[BonjourNuit120]

There are Not hundreds of hadiths condemning lying, so don't exaggerate

Only Islam teaches deceptions, hatred and violence in the Quran against all who reject Muhammad and hatred, violence and lying is not from God, does not serve God but serves only Satan

First of all I am a non Muslim and Muhammad said see the non Muslim as Evil so no matter how honest I am, no matter what I say, you will totally reject it

Since you are commanded to obey only Muhammad then why argue

[psychlopes1976]

Well, I'm sure I can get at least a hundred hadiths and Quranic verses at least touching on how Lying is bad, forbidden and wrong and so on. Even if they were just a dozen, you'd still neglected to mention that Islam says no to lying , and you took one hadith and twisted it to mean something that it isn't. The prophet never said, see the non-Muslims as evil. And I don't reject parts in any peach that are honest,. only God knows my heart , so don't assume to be God.

[BonjourNuit120]

You are the one neglecting to Admit that Islam encourages Lying for Islam

Is that not so?

The point is Lying for Islam is encouraged

[psychlopes1976]

I'm not neglecting anything, get it through your head, Islam does not encourage lying for the sake of advancing the causes of Islam. not only that, it is not permitted at all. The prophet once (and this is my translation) "those who tell lies and say they were uttered by me has ensured his place in hell) ... So get it through your head, lying in Islam is not permitted.

[BonjourNuit120]

You stated It's amazing how you keep trying to assume God's position of knowing my heart which is a direct confession of you already knowing taqiyya and applying it here

Yes there are fanatics in Christianity as in other religions but only Islam teaches war against the non Muslim and war permits lying, deceiving, hating and violence and all these do not serve God and do not come from God

God alone is the Truth and there is no lies in God and servants of God are also honest

[psychlopes1976]

"is a direct confession of you already knowing taqiyya " What? what sort of twisted alien logic lead you to that conclusion? How did what I say lead you to that??? I said that because you kept making assertions about what I believe and don't believe, how old are you anyway?> you're using elementary school type of reasoning at best!!!!

[BonjourNuit120]

Muhammad said it was alright to lie about being a Muslim if you were in danger because God knows your heart

That statment is a paraphrase in the Hadiths

[psychlopes1976]

Islam doesn't ask Muslims to wage war against people just because they are non-Muslims, war is waged against those who are the beginners of aggression against Muslims, and in days before the internet it was waged against regimes that prevented the word of Islam from reaching the people, the people themselves were never forced into Islam and were not fought.

[psychlopes1976]

"Since you are commanded to obey only Muhammad then why argue " I can just as easily say that Christians are doomed to obey the authors of the bible, blindly and without questioning, so what a hypocritical thing to say!!

[BonjourNuit120]

Christians are not doomed to obey the authors of the Bible, the Bible is not God, it is an arrow that points to God, and following the directions of that arrow opens our eyes, our mind, our hearts to God's presence in our lives and in our world

Only Muslims blindly and without questioning, accept the Quran

Christians, Jews are allowed to question every word of the Bible and they know God will answer them

but Muslims only Muslims were deceived by Muhammad who was deceived by Satan

[psychlopes1976]

"Only Muslims blindly ..". Man, that is so not true. Ask any Atheist and he will tell you how blindly Christians stick to what's written in the bible even when they are presented with the proof. Look at things with unbiased eye to see the truth, Muslims believe, some believe blindly, yes, but Christians do no less than that and even much worse at times.

[psychlopes1976]

"see how men desire to have..." oh yes, the infamous "change of topics" , you're cornered so you turn to another accusation and another claim to get me busy defending from another angle. "Even if I quoted the exact hadith and page..." It's amazing how you keep trying to assume God's position of knowing my heart and future, and that you know what I think and what I will do

[BonjourNuit120]

I am not cornered, even though I want to go to do something else

rather than run around in circles with you

I stay here even though you will reject everything I say,

I stay here to stand up for truth against lies because I know even if you totally reject what I say, your soul absorbed what I said like a sponge and it will help you one day

I don't have to quote the hadith's page, you and I both know lying for Islam began with Muhammad and it is practiced by Deedat and all Muslims

[psychlopes1976]

"even though I want to go to do something else " same here, so we'll call it a tie, and come back later to hash this some more if you want

[psychlopes1976]

"I don't have to quote the hadith's page, you and I both know" See that is the kind of Christian circular logic and lying that Muslims always have to deal with, NO, you THINK you know that Islam condones lying for Islam, but you're wrong. And by sticking to your opinion without providing the proof, you're lying, simply because you don't have a proof to present.

[psychlopes1976]

"I stay here even though you will reject everything I say, " And who says you have the truth to begin with, I'm staying here, although YOU are rejecting what I say. I"M here standing for the truth as well, just because you think you're right doesn't make you right. And don't talk about circles, you're the one who still say he's right even though you failed to provide the evidence. You make a statement and the reader is supposed to believe it on your authority.

[BonjourNuit120]

We are two goats butting each other on the head

You were taught Islam is the Truth and I was taught God is the truth, so we will never agree.

You don't accept quotes from the Bible and you don't accept quotes from the Quran made by khafirs, and you can't accept proof because Muhammad forgot to tell you what to do when proof is easily given

So why argue

I have my religion, you have yours

We will never agree as you hate the truth as I hate your lies

[psychlopes1976]

No I was tough God is the truth, and Islam is truely from God, see that is another way of twisting!!! You were being deceitful in that statement, Islam is the only religion truly teaching that God is the truth, (one not begotten nor does he beget) you teach 3 in 1, you teach a Nescafe recipe!! God is one and he is the God of all, Christians, Jews, and Muslims, and the God of the entire universe..

[BonjourNuit120]

God gave his name to Moses that name was not Allah

Christianity has only One God but Muslims have slaughtered hundreds of Millions of Christians to this day, recently as with the 2 million Sudan Christians

Mary was a Virgin, yet she gave birth to the Son of God for Son of God means God incarnate

There is one God not 3 in 1, that is a false claim by the false prophet Muhammad

and the god of Islam is not the God of the Jews and Chrisitans as only Muslims slaughtered both of these people

[psychlopes1976]

Amazing!!! again you forget about the Crusades... scores of Muslims and "JEWS" killed my Christians., what are you talking about? As for Sudan, Christians and Muslims lived peacefully there for centuries until only the late in the 20th century when outside forces started to stir unrest because "just like in Kuwait and Iraq" because of the riches of the land there which the west wants to control, and to prevent Muslims from having access to it. You only know the lies of your media

[psychlopes1976]

The only one lying here is you, and saying things like " you hate the truth as I hate your lies " doesn't make what you say true, those are just words for dramatic effect. Big words that are laughable coming from a Christian who practices all the things he's accusing Muslims of doing and much worse. I'm giving you the proof and the truth, you didn't give me one single proof of anything you said, you're just shooting your mouth without support of any evidence

[BonjourNuit120]

I don't need to lie because I am not a Muslims

Your eyes are blinded by fear,your ears are deafened by the command to obey only Muhammad who was a mass murderer who inflicted pure hell upon a world that already suffered

You accuse me of lying when I experience God as it is our collective right

You gave me no proof as Muhammad gave you no proof, just false empty claims

It is you shooting off your mouth without support or evidence

So cling to the lies of Satan, but know that is what you do

[psychlopes1976]

"I don't need to lie because I am not a Muslims " see, exactly what I thought, you're a child, certainly you are, because you used this stupid sentence like a dozen times all over youTube and with me twice in the same conversation, you have no logic of your own, so you just resort to ridiculing and sarcasm. I'm finished with you, go read about Islam, and the true salvation before its too late for you.

[BonjourNuit120]

God is not satan and lying, hating, murdering serve only Satan

I will not leave you standed, God is with you and God is only compassionate, merciful and forgiving, his true servants reflect those qualities, as long as you do, you will be ok.

Blessings to you and all Muslims

[BonjourNuit120]

God is not satan but lying, hating and murdering serve only Satan

I will not leave you stranded, God is with you as you are part of God for God made you to love you, God is only compassionate, merciful and forgiving, and his true servants reflect those qualities in all they say and in all they do, which Muhammad did not do but

as long as you do, you will be ok.

Blessings to you and to all Muslims

[taymaz1]

@BonjourNuit120 well said

[miadhu]

@BonjourNuit120

Now now, don't talk about God of which you do not know. You have no authority from God to say God is 'only' compassionate, merciful and forgiving. What are these illogical claims based on?

God created us requiring we worship him and only him. He forgives whoever he wills and he Punishes those who do evil and those who lie about him and his attributes.

[BonjourNuit120]

@miadhu Speak for yourself, my Christian religion enables me to know and to experience God only Islam deprives you of God thus deprives you of true Heaven. Christians only worship 1 God and had Muhammad been a true prophet of God, he would have known that, but instead Muhammad's greed for power, fortune, females, drove him to invent a religion of war using God, you do not worship God instead you worship a false god added before God for Muhammad added Satan before God when he prescribed war 2U

[miadhu]

@BonjourNuit120

You speak whatever comes to your imagination, dont you?

The pagans asked the prophet to stop calling to worship one God and in return offered to Give the high position among them, any women he wanted, huge amount of wealth. He denied and said ' I will not stop even if you put the sun in my right hand and the moon in my left' ... that hardly seems a man looking for power to me... Now thts funny when a christian says to a Muslim 'you don't worship God'

Islam wasnt spread by sword

[BonjourNuit120]

@miadhu Funny, Muhammad was a pagan all his life and he died a pagan only he will be held responsible for the hundreds of millions of People killed by Muslims. Only Muslims bow down to an idol in the kaaba.

Indeed Muhammad rejected bribes of wealth and females because he wanted power

In fact the Quran proves you are full of it, because Muhammad said and they who believe on God and his apostle and make no difference between them, WE will bestow on them their reward sura 4:151

[miadhu]

@BonjourNuit120

I think you r knowingly lying. But just in case you really don't know and are guessing.

The Prophet never worshiped an Idol so how can he be a Pagan.

When No Muslim ever said we bow down to an Idol why r u saying so. Don;twe know best what we bow down to? There are No idols in Kaaba!

The reward is in the hereafter. Why wud a person lying to get power in this world look forward to hereafter.

At least, I hope u wont repeat the same mistakes again to fool the ignorant people.

[BonjourNuit120]

@miadhu Islam was only spread by the sword as it began in Saudi Arabia and spread throughout the Christian nations of Northern Africa and the Middle East. Islam took Egypt, Turkey, all of Northern Africa using the sword, it invaded Spain and tried for centuries to invade Europe in which millions of Christians were killed. Islam is only war against the infidels and hypocrites s 66:9 Give us victory over the infidel nations sura 2:285, war is prescribed to the Muslim s 2:216

So stop lying

[BonjourNuit120]

@miadhu I do have authority from God to speak of God as God is with all humankind since our creation and had Muhammad been a true prophet of God, he would have taken you out of the darkness into the Light, that is he would have taken you out of war, oppression, deception, and he would have brought you to the awareness that God is present in every person's life on earth. Instead Muhammad prescribed War to the Muslim and claimed War was good ( sura 2:216) when war is pure darkness

[miadhu]

@BonjourNuit120

What Authority do you have. Let us see it. I am sure you are God's slave and he did not reveal anything to you except through the Torah(Bible), Injeel(Gospel) and the Qur'an of which the former two are corrupted.

[psychlopes1976]

"To lie for Islam is a duty " That only goes to show how ignorant you are of what Islam is about, because that statement couldn't be further from the truth, and I challenge you to come up with one authentic source supporting your claim; which of course I've heard many times before from haters such as yourself, but none was ever successful at providing proof for it. Go ahead, take your best shot.

[BonjourNuit120]

To lie for Islam is a duty and it is called Taqiyya

The Hadiths conceals your souce of proof

which states there are 3 times you are permitted to lie, one is for Islam, one is among relationships, and one is between spouses, in short, one is allowed to always lie after all Muhammad said, God knows the truth in your heart

Just because I say Islam is not from God but uses God does not make me a hater of anyone. I hate no one

You don't want proof because you don't know how to deal with it

[psychlopes1976]

Taqiyya is not a concept of Islam, its an invented Shia concept, as for the hadith you are talking about, I just caught you in either a big lie, or you do not know what you are talking about because in that Hadith it says " I do not consider these three to be liars" 1- a person lying to mend relationships 2 a person lying to his/her spouse to appease him/her, and in war" Now please tell me, where is Islam mentioned in there??????????

[BonjourNuit120]

Theocratic Islamic Sharia Laws is what governs most Islamic nations as genocide in Islam is the reason 2 million Sudan Christians were slaughtered by Muslims

Taqiyya is a concept of Sharia, Hadith and both these are of Islam

I don't need to lie, as I am not a Muslim

It is in the Hadith and the day I memorized where these passages are, I will let you know until then stay dumb, deaf and blind pretending you don't know the hadiths

You don't lie to me, you lie only to yourself

[psychlopes1976]

"Taqiyya is a concept of Sharia, Hadith and both these are of Islam

I don't need to lie, as I am not a Muslim " of my lord LOOOOL, did you just use 5th grade logic or am I just seeing things? man I just proved you wrong, the decent thing to do is to admit your wrong, "Muslims lie because I know they do" is not proof. As for the hadith you are referring to, I'll look up the reference numbers and give them to you myself, don't worry.

[BonjourNuit120]

You only proved you are liar and you believe your lies

Muslims lie because Islam is a lie and Islam uses God in quest of conquering the world

Islam teaches hatred, deception and violence towards those who rejected Muhammad even though Muhammad used God in quest of power, fortune and female slaves as he was never a prophet of God, he only though he was

Just google taqiyyad hadith and it should take you there

[psychlopes1976]

"Just google taqiyyad hadith and it should take you there " If its that easy then why don't you copy paste the Hadith here on youTube for all the readers to see it??? or do you think that just sending me on a wild goose chase is enough to prove your lie to the readers? You're the one making the claim, YOU do the leg work.

[BonjourNuit120]

If it is easy to google for taqiyya in the hadiths

The hadiths are for everyone to see how men desire to have sex with babies and what the child bride of Muhammad said

how Muhammad said it was alright to rape captives in front of their husbands

Perhaps you already know the hadiths but like everything else you are denying them

Even if I quoted the exact hadith and page, you would still reject it. Even when I quote the Quran you ignore it

so stop playing your stupid games

[psychlopes1976]

"You don't want proof because you don't know how to deal with it " You make me laugh, of all the proofs I give to Christians about how Christianity is false and none of them ever wants to deal with what I offer, and now you're trying to use that line on me? come on, if it came from an atheist I would understand it, but you're talking about proof and truth and your a Christian???? this is RICH!!

You are obviously hateful, because you don't bring proof to what you say and you still make claims

[BonjourNuit120]

You deceive only yourself, God is not Satan, God does not lie, hate or murder people who do not believe in Muhammad

I know what the Quran says about Jesus and Christianity and what the Quran says are LIES to justify for Muslims hating and waging war against Christians when War itself is of Satan and serves only Satan

You think a Muslim can teach a Christian what truth is, when Islam is the only religion on earth from Satan

You are asking to see proof when you are blind by the lies of Islam

[psychlopes1976]

Christianity is the religion form Statan, because Jesus never claimed to be God, he was a prophet, and then Satan came to your so called Gospel writers and Church leaders after and made them turn the prophet into God, which is the worse kind of idolatry. Islam is the only religion standing that is TRULY from God. You need to get a clue!!!

[BonjourNuit120]

Here at this site it states, new deciet in Christian evangelism as if their were old deciets when what is old is Islamic hatred towards Christians

Only Deedat was a fool for kissing arabic writing, Christians were not being deceiving writing Christian messages in Arabic, that is an accusation that is bias

for here is Deedat who spoke English in his combat againt Christianity

[psychlopes1976]

BonjourNuit120 - you're such a hypocrite. Christians have always used all means (even deceit) throughout history to achieve their Goals. If you don't see the deceit in what Deedat is revealing then you're obviously being intentionally blind. Imagine Muslims making up pamphlets and giving them out to your children, with "Bible" as the title, only to find the Quran inside. You are being anything by fair because you are a Christian, if it was done to you, all hell would break loose

[BonjourNuit120]

If Christians have always been deceitful throughout history, is that why Millions of you Muslims came to live in our nations?

Who is fooling who?

The fault of Christians handing out pamplets to children is not knowing Islam would even kill a child if it left the faith, the fault of Christians is not desiring all people experience heaven, rather it is being ignorant that Muslims cling to the lies of Satan and they don't want to know Islam is from Satan otherwise they would be saved from hell

[psychlopes1976]

"..Muslims came to live in our nations?" Duh, because they want to make a better living. Why is it that now that Dubai is a major city that so many westerners are going there to live and work? What kind of a stupid question was that? People migrate to where there are better work opportunities, and a higher standard of living.

[psychlopes1976]

haaaah, any Arabic language scholar would refute what you are saying, and Arabian Nights doesn't even come close to Quran, of course you only say that because you don't know anything about Arabic.... and how do you claim to know what's in my heart, you are the one lying. If you prove me wrong, I'm willing to convert, but the thing is we already proved YOU wrong, and you're still being pigheaded. I have a couple of friends who do not believe in God although they were born Muslims here in Jordan.

[BonjourNuit90]

Of course any arabic scholor would refute me, if he valued his life

I don't need to know arabic to know Muhammad was a false prophet, I only need to know the bible and Muhammad's own behavior for Jesus said beware of false prophets who come to you as ferious wolves dressed in sheep's clothing by their fruits you will know them and Muhammad who made himself an equal partner to God, contradicted God and himself

Your brainwashed but you can't see it

[psychlopes1976]

You are so full of BS. You always explain "because you would kill whoever contradicts you", as if!!!! My friend Islam isn't like that, and besides, there are Arabs all over the world contradicting muslims, still very much alive, and none of them would tell you that any text even comes close to Quran.

[psychlopes1976]

The only person brainwashed here is you. Mohammad never made himself even remotely equal to God, and his fruits are more pure and holy than any fruit that a deluded person like you can ever produce.

[BonjourNuit90]

Of course you claim I am brainwashed but you are and you can't see it

Tssk Tssk

Muhammad said obey me and obey allah, he said the spoils of war belong to allah and his apostle, he said he was your protector and so is allah and that is making himself equal to God

and his fruits are evil and he justified his evilness and he used God and he will pay for it with his eternal soul

Too bad you don't like to hear the truth but you can't change it

[09Discovery]

If a prophet says obey me and obey Allah what is the problem? It is obvious the prophet is speaking the words of Allah and acting upon Allah's command so obeying the prophet is obeying Allah. Whether that prophet be Noah, Jesus, Moses, Solomon, or Muhammad(peace be upon them all)

[BonjourNuit90]

Oh who can't eat pork, calling me pig headed when it was you who have been deceived for no prophet was sent after the messiah for the messiah was fortold to come, he came and that was the end to the prophets

You can't prove me wrong because Islam is full of lies and I am speaking the truth

If you have friends who don't believe in God it is because they refuse to believe God is oppressive as is the false god in Islam, good it is better not to believe in God then to believe God is satan

[BonjourNuit90]

I have not been deceived by priests because I don't know any priests

and you can never threaten me with hell, when Muhammad stold that very word from Revelations when God said no one better take from that book otherwise they will endanger their very soul and only Muhammad made an entire religion pretending he came to warn of Judgment day when he had no right to and

It is Muhamamd who is in hell, you fool

[psychlopes1976]

Deep inside you, there is something telling you that Islam is the true faith, but you are fighting it, because you don't want to be proven wrong, and you don't want to change your way of life. You want all the unlawful things Christianity allows you, even if they were not allowed to the Jews and they are not allowed to Muslims, but somewhere in between , God just allowed them to Christians... hmm, weird.

[BonjourNuit90]

You do not teach the truth for you do not know the truth

Just because Muhammad claimed he spoke the God's truth does not mean he did because he did not always speak the truth in fact he claimed he was a messenger, a prophet and an apostle when he was none of them but do you people question him, not at all you

Someone should have told him saying something does not make it true

He was using God to oppress you people for he loved power and the spoils of war as well as female slaves

[BonjourNuit90]

Deep inside me, there is something telling me, I rather die then be forced to be a Muslim, I rather you tear me to pieces and throw me to the dogs because I know with proof, Muhammad was a false prophet who was misquided and who misguided his followers and Islam is so man made it isn't funny but you people think you can use God to oppress people but you don't know God will destroy Islam because it comes from satan

[psychlopes1976]

No one would force you to become a Muslim, nor would we want your Islam if it didn't come from true faith and belief. You are already misguided and filled with hatred against the religion of truth. It's your life, do what you want with it. But don't insult my prophet and religion, because you say you are a "Christian" who loves and spreads peace, and yet all you've been spreading on youTube is hatred and intolerance.

[BonjourNuit90]

Islam is not the religion of truth as it began with a false prophet

Furthermore only God is the truth

No one insults you but the Islam is man made as it began with a false prophet

I never said I love and spread peace but

I do not spread hatred because I am not a Muslim only Islam is a religion of hatred towards non believers only Islam has no tolerance for other religions

When you are the minority you cannot force us to convert but when you are the majority then you will force

[psychlopes1976]

False only because you say so? Amazing argument, and where does your bible "prove" he was a false prophet, if anything, if you were objective enough you'd find that it proves that he is the seal of the prophets and the one with the religion "of truth". But then again you interpret the Bible in the way that suites your system of beliefs already based on falsehood.

[BonjourNuit90]

He was a false prophet , first in the Jewish bible, in which God purposely skipped over Ishmael, Abraham's first born to choose Isaac to carry as everlasting the covenant thus prophetic line and that means Only Jews were prophets not those who hated Jews.

God never made prophets in any other nation but Israel Genesis 17:18

and in John 14:15-20 versus sura 61:6 in which Muhammad used Jesus to endorse himself when Jesus said the Holy Spirit to come already Lives in all people

[psychlopes1976]

And where is the justice in that, huh? no prophets except for Jews, and all the other humans living before Jesus are all doomed just because they had no prophets? our Islam is more Just, it tells us God sent messengers to all the nations of the world. And that holy spirit living in all people is just YOUR interpretation. and what NEW revelation has that spirit taught you "like Jesus said it would". You only follow speculation and lame interpolation of your own verses..

[BonjourNuit90]

Don't tell me what we Christians allow

we don't go to live in your nations by the millions but you people come to our nations

Today Jews don't stone adulters

they don't kill females if they are not virgins but you Muslims do

You don't know your religion was modeled after the Jews not after Abraham

because only with Moses was pork forbidden but even so all the traditions you follow does not mean you have truth and knowledge because you don't

[BonjourNuit90]

Islam only disagrees with all other religions but itself and it teaches to exalt Islam over the other religions, claiming that God only acknowledges Islam when Islam teaches nothing new or deep and Muhammad even admitted it

It has a fraction of truth and wisdom and that fraction was taken from other religions

When you Muslims strap bombs to your children,don't pretend you care for them because I care more for them then you do and at least I tell the truth

[BonjourNuit90]

It is Muslims who reach to our children and weaklings using twisted methods,

Here is one of a thousand deedat sites, attacking my religion, this site is accusing Evangelists of being deceitful when they are NOT, they risked their lives there but you people come to our nations exploiting our systems, it was Deedat himself who was deceitful

[uk7score]

"Take his shoes an put it round his neck", lol.

Jazakallah for this vid bro. Excellent. May Allah reward you.

[tdot33]

I hope everyone watching this takes his words to heart.

[webmasts]

Jazak Allah Khair

[mfanaji]

may Allah bless the soul of Ahmed Deedat

and thank you brother for posting these videos from him.

[ALAMINUK]

May Allah make give Ahmed Deedat the best of Jannah! Ameen

[Kinaanath]

nice video,great job,may Allmighty Allah reward you

[naliakbar]

Thank you... May Allah guide all of us to the path of rightousness.

[khoschish]

It's time for us muslims to unite, shiia sunni doesn't matter our QURA'AN is in Danger

[3bloomfield]

Thanks my brother, but you have to understande the Quran will never be in danger. The only one will be in Danger is us human.