who is the first monotheist prophet in the history of mankind & where he was nominated as prophet? After 44 years of research I have discovered that the birthday of this reverend prophet was 3593 years before the birth of Zoroaster i.e. 9700 years BC.or11697 years agoThis prophet who has remained veiled as yet was living in a country known as Iranovich in the world and he was the founder of the first monotheist religion of ancient times that is Mehr (Mitra) religion or sun worship religion.
@Jhaub420 he is not maradad ,but mahabad on google (The First Monotheist Prophet) and for more about ancient aryan and Zoroaster on google (History of the Ancient Aryans) thank so much l wish you all good
Zoroaster's birthday was repeated by subsequent Greek chronographers, the main source for subsequent quotations was Lertius' third manuscript,\. Meanwhile elsewhere in his book, relating from Hermodoros, Plato's student, the same author says Zoroaster was born 5000 years before the battle of Troy. Since Xerex invaded Greece in 480 B.C. and the battle of Troy was fought in the year 1184 B.C., the birthday of Zoroaster, as related by Lertius must be 6184 B.C.
Mahabad is believed to be a pre-Zoroastrian Prophet and may be an alternative name for Adam.[1] He is also called "Azar Hooshang" (the Fire of Wisdom).
He was the first of fifteen successive prophets, the thirteenth of whom was Zoroaster and the last was Sasan, from whom the Sassanid Dynasty may be supposed to trace their descent. Their writings are said to be collected in the Dasatir-i-Asmani.
The Paiman-i-Farhang (Excellent Covenant) is Mahabads code of laws.
Thanx for the reply Eddie, good luck with that. From where I stand Zoroastrianism seems a good thing and can only be an influence for the good. All the best Bro.
@14up0 That is the reason why Zoroastrian faith has endured for nearly 4000 years, exemplary and yet unexampled, no doubt! it is all for the better of humanity and that is for sure.
Thanks to you too for sharing your thoughts. Love and Respect.
In this sense all creations are designed and made by God. Hence, creation implies a combination of giving and shaping, emanating and designing, shaping and augmenting. Creation was not ex nihilo -- out of nothingness. Creation has always been in God and with God.
Ahura Mazda is the creator. The Gathic words conveying this idea: Datar & Tashea. The 1st word (from the root Da) = giver and bestower (Y43.5, Y46.9). In this sense, all blessings r given by God, all that is good emanates from him. The 2nd word (from the root Tash meaning cut and shape) = shaper, designer & maker (Y44.5).
The two attributes of "Vohu Mana" and "Asha" often appear together in association with Ahura Mazda. Duchesne-Guillemin calls them the Holy Triad. The process of Zarathushtra's elevation to prophethood reflects the joint functioning of the three.
Goodness, constructiveness, and justice (truth) are central to Zarathushtra's concept of Ahura Mazda. Wisdom and truth are the constant threads of the main theme running through Avesta and the Gathas.
The term Ahura Mazda signifies the Lord of both celestial and terrestrial worlds. Ahura means "life" and Mazda means "wisdom. Ahura Mazda is the Essence and Lord of Life and Wisdom.
@BlackChick82 way to go! and I'm sure you know the story in the Gospel about the three wise men who had followed the star from the east and brought offerings for baby Jesus... were Zoroastrian priest from Persia.
Homat - Hoght - Havarasht... good thoughts, good words, good deeds. Ahura Mazda is the One True God w'th much Wisdom, Righteousness-cum-Justice, Serenity-with-love, Divine Might, Brotherhood, Perfection for all Eternity. Praise Holy Asha...
I am not particularly virtuous or intelligent (if at all), done more than my fare share of bad deeds, bad words, bad thoughts and like an idiot will probably continue to do so, until the grim reaper kicks my ass, but it greatly saddens me that such a pleasant and reasonable philosophy/religion, was detered from it's rightful expansion.
@eddienamini Hi Eddie, are you saying that the Zorarastrian religion/philosophy is due for a revivial or that there is going to be a major triumph of good over evil? As nice as that sounds, it seems very difficult in a reality so founded in killing, just for survival alone. Even as a vegetarian I destroy life to eat to survive. This being only a minor point among many. Might out look being very influenced by Catherism, the wiped out medievel sect. However in all honesty, I know nothing.
@eddienamini Hi Eddie, are you saying that the Zorarastrian religion/philosophy is due for a revivial or that there is going to be a major triumph of good over evil? As nice as that sounds, it seems very difficult in a reality so founded in killing, just for survival alone. Even as a vegetarian I destroy life to eat to survive. This being only a minor point among many. My out look being very influenced by Catherism, the wiped out medievel sect. However in all honesty, I know nothing.
@14up0 I perceive Zoroastriansm as a way of life, as a final resolution 4mankind. And that this way of looking at life, itself, is also susceptible to various interpretations. This alone makes it rather impossible to come to a total comprehensive outlook to our understanding in full the meaning of divinity... but as for the fundamental belief in Catharism based on a dualistic and gnostic way of worship: it all comes down to taking sides with God which is simply "goodness" and thats that I know!
I would say with a 100% "historian's confidence" that the whole Abrahamanic religious tradition, be the Judeo-Christian and Islamic traditions, are based in the Ancient Mazdyan religion and the Zoroastrian philosophy. Correct me if I am wrong, please.
@mirarostodo right l like you read this web to see what you say (The First Monotheist Prophet) and the second web on google ((History of the Ancient Aryans) and read all 15 (saga) chapter and note all tradation of aryan peoples
@mirarostodo right you can see that on google ((History of the Ancient Aryans) and read 15 saga (chapter) and read ((The First Monotheist Prophet) to see all you say and hidusian and buddah too
According to linguistics &internal evidence of the Avesta,the IranoAryan language family originated high in the splendid Hind Kush mountains of Afghanistan.Historical data indicates that one of these ProtoIranic-speaking tribes was denominated Gut'This ancient Iranic root denominated "warrior,as the erudite Waddell notes,the affixed title of Gut or 'Warrior(Waddell1929,One branch of this legendary Gut or warrior tribe migrated to India,where they eventually became the renowned Jate
According to the Avesta and the historical records in Iran, from the time of Hooshang, the Pishdadi king, until the confirmation of Zoroaster in the fortieth year of the reign of Goshtasb of Kianian Dynasty, the Mehr religion was the popular and common religion of the Iranian people. Mehabad's prophethood is called the Abadian Dynasty and in the meantime Mehabad can be considered as the first founder of constitution for mankind
The Medes were an people of Indo-Iranian (Aryan) origin who inhabited the western and north-western portion of present-day Iran. By the 6th century BC (prior to the Persian invasion) the Medes were able to establish an empire that stretched from Aran (the modern-day Republic of Azerbaijan) to Central Asia and Afghanistan. Today's population of the western part of the Iranian Plateau (including many Persian-speakers, Kurds consider themselves to be descended from the ancient Medes.
@goran21715 Ecbatana is where Darius the Mede had ruled years before the Achaemenid Empire whence from the story about Daniel of Sousa thrown in the lion pit is a historical record in the book of bible which many archaeologists and scholars have debates. Even an older city in that region is "Elam"... another kurd'sh town.
@eddienamini The Lullubi were a group of tribes during the 3rd millennium BC, from a region known as Lulubum, now the Sharazor plain of in the Zagros identified their city Lulubuna with the modern Kurdish town,Halabja.The early Sumerian legend "Lugalbada&the Anzud Bird",set in the reign of Enmerkar of Uruk, alludes to the "mountains of Lulubi" as being where the character of Lugalbanda encounters the gigantic Anzud bird while searching for the rest of Enmerkar's army en route to siege Aratta.
@eddienamini thank for your comment, there were more kurdish city more ancient , like Arbil which established by Hurrian in 6000 BC & arrrapha ,modern Kirkuk and Nuzi (Ga-suer) mean red ox,and allappo in syria and Halabja the Lullubi city contemporary to sumerian city Kish or perhaps befor it&MUsh in north kurdistan which was capital of Subartu whom they offshoot of hurrian in 3 millenium,GUTI (Kurdi) , Ka-spi( Kassite) whom the exsist in midd euphra
The Medes were an people of Indo-Iranian (Aryan) origin who inhabited the western and north-western portion of present-day Iran. By the 6th century BC (prior to the Persian invasion) the Medes were able to establish an empire that stretched from Aran (the modern-day Republic of Azerbaijan) to Central Asia and Afghanistan. Today's population of the western part of the Zagros Plateau (including many Persian-speakers, Kurds and Azeris) consider themselves to be descended from the ancient Medes.
@sinoples everything except for their monuments carved out of solid rock, usually high up the mountains, and of course what Arabs could never destroy is what has maintained the same for melliniums is a sense of unity as a very rich fount of their culture. (dispersed in 4 different countries yet they speak the same language.)
@sinoples ur welcome... that's a wonderful subject to read about. And yes, I am Iranian by birth... may I ask what drew your attention to the roots of this culture and to ancient Pars? cheers:-)
@eddienamini Huuuummm.....I must go back to childhood, for mty plan was to move to Greece.Iran, and of course, India *!*. On 70'ies I, and, my close ones, we were utterly shocked by the occidental powers helping to destroy the Shah's dreams. Useful or not USA in due time now they were at fault, France too.
Years latter I enjoyed a personal friendship with a suffi Master. Other friends from the diaspora I met in Paris. So the mythical persian Bird plane over me, but....which is his name ?!?
the Mitanni, the deities Mitra, Varuna, Indra, and Nasatya (Ashvins) are invoked. Kikkuli's horse training text includes technical terms such as aika (eka, one), tera (tri, three), panza (pancha, five), satta (sapta, seven), na (nava, nine), vartana (vartana, turn, round in the horse race). The numeral aika "one" is of particular importance because it places the superstrate in the vicinity of Indo-Aryan proper as opposed to Indo-Iranian or early Iranian (which has "aiva") in general
according to Torah Adam was born in the year 3761 B.C., Noah in 2705 B.C., Abraham in 1815 and Moses in 1392 B.C. Now if any researcher has doubt about the birthday of Zoroaster he may mention his objection and we will reply. We Iranians are an oppressed nation who have no recorded history because our real history which incorporated millions of volumes were burnt to ashes by Arab, Mongol and Tatar invaders.
Then who is the first monotheist prophet in the history of mankind and where he was nominated as prophet? After 44 years of research I have discovered that the birthday of this reverend prophet was 3593 years before the birth of Zoroaster i.e. 9700 years B.C. or 11697 years ago (retroactive to 1997). This prophet who has remained veiled as yet was living in a country known as Iranovich in the world and he was the founder of the first monotheist religion of ancient times that is Meh
Mahabad is believed to be a pre-Zoroastrian Prophet and may be an alternative name for Adam. He is also called "Azar Hooshang" (the Fire of Wisdom).
He was the first of fifteen successive prophets, the thirteenth of whom was Zoroaster and the last was Sasan, from whom the Sassanid Dynasty may be supposed to trace their descent. Their writings are said to be collected in the Dasatir-i-Asmani.
The Paiman-i-Farhang (Excellent Covenant) is Mahabads code of laws
I've read some Gathas and Avesta's although this was years ago. I was wondering if you could explain the how the Dualism of day to day existence becomes the Monotheism that Mazda-ism ( forgive me if you don't prefer that term) is famous for. I know this is not a question that can be answered in the comments section but it is something I have wondered about for years. If you would please PM me an answer I would be grateful.
At the end of time, during the divine event known as Freshokereti "the renovation of the world", God Ahura Mazda will destroy Angra mainyu the evil mentality and all evil will cease to exist, and the world will enter a pure state of non-duality.
Though you live in a state of duality now, the Zoroastrian religion teaches you should strive to reach a state of non-duality within, just as God strives to create a Universe which is not afflicted by duality through his divine plan.
If you interested to know the antiquity of Vedic city of Dwaraka, other details on its scientific dating and photos of underground city,you may visit the above site. Just put (.)where I have written as dot and before com.Dont copy and paste.You wont get the site.
grahamhancock com/forum/BadrinaryanB1dotphp
Here,you verify the authentic archeology details which is very recent and of experts.
so,I have given verifiable archeology with expert details who participated in it.
Very powerful proof of Vedic age is given by Lord Krishnas Dwarka underwater excavation done in 2002.One can see online all submerged cities,fort etc and details.All forts and cities submerged were found which exactly as per Mahabharata version.Many artifiacts were found.Two drilled wood pieces were sent for scientific dating to two places in Europe.One gave value of 5500 BC and another is 7500BC.But 7500 BC is more stronger as per experts.Which conforms antiquity of vedic culture.
@Saraswathiputra fallacy were your date 40,000 year my dear , all sources talk in the end of bronze age. if we talk in myth migration from aryan homeland ( airyaman) north pole it talk about 20.000 year you must to achieve your info
As per science,the most authentic is Archeology and genetics
These things if elaborately done by experts is most reliable.
I have given genetic study details on Dravidian and Aryans in India but you give some approximate details
Modern details debunked all ancient details.Know the truth
It is proved those South Indian Dravidian nowhere related to any Africans and they never reached South India by Northern route.This is proof by genetic study
Where comes approximation and Google outdated details
@Saraswathiputra The most basic division of the Indian society is of Aryans and Dravidians. According to this division, nearly 72% of Indians are Aryans and 28% are Dravidians. The north Indians are the descendants of Aryans and the south Indians are Dravidians. The languages spoken in five states of south India are considered Dravidian languages and most of the languages spoken in the north are considered Aryan languages. The general script of the Aryan languages is different from the general
@Saraswathiputra Before the arrival of the Aryans there were also other communities in India like Sino-Mongoloids and Austroloids. There were also other foreign immigrations and invaders who arrived in India, from time to time. There are many that completely doubt that there was ever any Aryan invasion in India. This skepticism is based on the dating of the Aryan invasion of India and the fact that Hinduism
these info from from indian history adenils info set not my opinion
Your foolish things so much visible here.Why are talking on Neanderthals who are animal like people..
Your point proved that those Aryans who are nowhere related to place of Neanderthals and Aryans are advanced people only living in North India that time.
Your Noah stories are now proved copied details from Sumerian by semitic Babylonians. Sumerian are Vedic Aryans and migrated from ancient India
@Saraswathiputra Before deciding that I invite you to take a little time to read the Shanedircave on google to see a human being or an animal similar to humans which is the subject for the history of man I know it has nothing to do the subject of Aryans, but was in response to your words on the subject of Darvidn and history that is not a challenge, but realities we want to We get it. , Whether tribes from Zagros mountain emigrated to hindus Valley or from hindus valley emigrated to zagros mo
I see not wise to say that it is the story copied of Mesopotamia mythology and there were three religion speak about the incident and that the proven geological occurrence of such a flood, I know it does not exist Geological and mythology in China,,and I asked you if there is a mythology that is similar in Indian culture, if you reject this story, then based on what you are and what your reference What is the theory which explains races and how you talk about genes I see you in your confusing
@goran21715 script of Dravidian languages. The Indians also distinguish themselves by the general north Indian accent and general south Indian accent.According to general Indian legend, the Aryans arrived in north India somewhere from Iran and southern Russia at around 1500 BC. Before the Aryans, the Dravidian people resided in India. The Aryans disregarded the local cultures. They began conquering and taking control over regions in north India and at the same time pushed the local
@Saraswathiputra pushed the local people southwards or towards the jungles and mountains in north India. According to this historical fact the general division of Indian society is made. North Indians are Aryans and south Indians are Dravidians. But this division isn’t proper because of many reasons.
Many Indians immigrated from one part of India to other parts of India and not all local people of north India were pushed southwards by the Aryans. Some stayed and served the Aryans and others mov
The tenth individual was recently discovered by M.Zeder during examination of a faunal assemblage from the site at the Smithsonian Institution.The remains seemed to Zeder to suggest that Neandertals had funeral ceremonies,burying their dead with flowers(although the flowers are now thought to be a modern contaminant and that they took care of injured individuals.One skeleton and casts of the others at the Smithsonian Institution are all that is left of the findings,the originals having been dis
A reconstruction of a Neanderthal child at Archaeological Museum of Bandar Abbas, IranThe Shanidar Cave site is most famous for having two skeletons, I and IV. Shanidar I was an elderly Neanderthal male known as Shanidar I, or ‘Nandy’ to its excavators. He was aged between 40 and 50 years, which was considerably old for a Neanderthal, equivalent to 80 years old today, and displaying severe signs of deformity. He was one of four reasonably complete skeletons from the cave which displayed
Shanidar Cave is an archaeological site in the Zagros Mountains in northern Iraq. The site is located in the valley of the Great Zab. It was excavated from 1957–1961 by Ralph Solecki and his team from Columbia University and yielded the first adult Neanderthal skeletons in Iraq, dating between 60–80,000 years BP.
View of Shanidar CaveThe excavated area produced nine skeletons of Neanderthals of varying ages and states of preservation and completeness (labelled Shanidar I – IX).
@Saraswathiputra there is something important I do not know it existed in the culture of India an incident the Great Flood and Noa And that the races come from his three children Sam& Ham &Jothephen&that Noah and his sons and some of whom had been with him in the ark came down on Mount Ararat as theOld Testament.Or on the Cudi mountain by the Koran.And the theory of races associated with this event.Do you believe in this event and Noah peace be upon all of this happened in Kurdistan answer me
Again,if you say my comments is biased to Hindu,you have to prove by your comments how it is biased to Hindu.You could not give anything to refute!
But telling your opinions as history.
I have give everything with name of the scientist in my comment,if you paste online you get more details on that..The comments are designed like that!
@Saraswathiputra Biased in everything that you are due to the Hindus not know real things about the ancient India, which I know that South India is different from the north. Because the changes that confound modern political concepts as the Valley today are Hindus in Pakistan and not in India, although located in the Indian Subcontinent and it's the same people in the race, but it is different in religion only.It's not PHP India, but in most other parts of my question Are you Darvidn
And your skeleton details are never be reliable part of the history as per rule in archeology.Because,that skeleton might be belonged to people who visited for some purpose,may not related with that place.
But what I have like Dried river discovery,Gulf of Cambay Vedic city discovery in 2002 in India are very much confirmed by Vedic texts and give value of 9500 years by scientific dating.
Genetic study in very large scale give value to the presence of Aryan genes in India around 40,000 years.
there is something important I do not know it existed in the culture of India an incident the Great Flood and Noah. And that the races come from his three children Sam& Ham &Jothephen& that Noah and his sons and some of whom had been with him in the ark came down on Mount Ararat as theOld Testament.Or on the Cudi mountain by the Koran.And the theory of races associated with this event.Do you believe in this event and Noah peace be upon all of this happened in Kurdistan (north mesopotamia)
Again,you should understand the recent archeology and other details like genetics in India and abroad are so much confirmed by those references in ancient Vedic texts.
Again,Vedic people excelled in astronomy which is also one of the accurate proofs if it is maintained because nobody twist the details on ancient planetary position,our modern computers immediately fix it.
Vedic text referred many planetary combination in which are proved to be most accurate and all are personal observation.
Yes, I understand modern archeology, as well as genes do not care that whichever one of the oldest, the Kurd, and proud I am descended from the Medes, the son of Jothaven son of Noah and Medes are Aryans group that migrated to the Zagros Mountains and founded the empire Median great control of both the Middle East from Afgastan to Egypt and Avesta Median language was still part of the Kurds speak a dialect (Haurami)
But I ask what you mean by Vida Do you mean the religious text or Aryans.
A new theory that he did not hear it real If it does mean that Aryan, If you mean did not read the details of the fact that I respect all what you write. But I see you often biased to the Hindu, this is your right but the scientific facts needs to be neutral and that surprised you say that the Aryan race is no longer found in India. And Valley And Reid to ask you about Mitanni Do they have signs or remnants of a certain sect was represented and what represents a peacock when Hindus
First agricultural society was the Indus valley and Sumeria.Your Zagros ancient sites never related with Aryans and civilised.You are so much confusing yourselves.Please go through those study and the references given which are most authentic.
But,modern genetic study provide the antiquity to Aryans in India around 40,000 years.
Verify my details.
Dravidians in were South India around 65,000 years.they reached that place by
Sea rout of south eastern Asia and nowhere connected with North India
@Saraswathiputra It is not a challenge if the Valley of Hindus first. Or Zagros that what I said about Jarmo installed by archaeologists 7000 years BC, in addition to the cities of Arbil citadel more than 10000 years before Almiladhma as a result of drilling eight layers and layers are civilized Other downright loud-year-old civilization that what I said about the cave Chandrtm discovered by archaeologists Amrbaki Ralph Sowski 1951 eight skeletons discovered and named Bradost human 60000-80000y
What is this nonsense race, religion, what is the relationship Is that a new theory invented Hammad man is not even a living organism grows and develops with the fixed date and non-variable is in God alone. During migrations and Alihub and economic conditions and political and social rights Netgear valuable Yen, customs and traditions and lifestyle, and so may be Larrea and condemn Christianity or Islam
@Saraswathiputra What is this nonsense race, religion, what is the relationship Is that a new theory invented Hammad man is not even a living organism grows and develops with the fixed date and non-variable is in God alone. During migrations and Alihub and economic conditions and political and social rights Netgear valuable Yen, customs and traditions and lifestyle, and so may be aryan and belived to Christianity or Islam
@Saraswathiputra Friend What is this intolerance what is the relationship of religion and creed and caste nationalism during the historical development and social development and conflict, trade and other occur Tgbratkthirp in the community so it is not logical to claim that so and so religion monopoly on a certain sect see punk my name from this idea closed if the debt is true, it belongs to the human And not for a certain range, but if it was behind a particular political goal
@Saraswathiputra Jarmo village archaeological site located in southern Kurdistan (Iraqi Kurdistan), south of the Zagros Mountains east of the city of Kirkuk, known as the first agricultural society in the world, dating back to 7000 BC .. An area ranging between 12.000 - 16.000 square meters and located at a height of about 800 above sea level in a belt of oak and pistachio forests .. Been excavated at the site for the first time by Robert Braidwood .
This is your approximation.Nobody is died.Sorry,for your wild guess.Could you prove how those South got so much original knowledge than the North Brahmins.
All ancient texts exist only in South.As per rule,those who have original texts necessarily are the original people.
Those people proved their intelligence in all fields!
@Saraswathiputra vEDIC ARYANS ARE ALL DEAD. puranic hindus who worship black god Krishna know some vedas sanskrit to maintain BLACK superiority & caste dogmas/bullshit what you secretly mentioned on my profile page but hide it from posting on this comment page! present puranic hindus are black dravidians know sanskrit hymns from bihar to tulu/tamil nadu.why no vedic aryans are left. Obama has white lineage all indians have that kind of lineage from Black Krishna Fathers & white aryan women.
@Saraswathiputra What are these things here in the north of Mesopotamia was the conflict and hostility with the Assyrians. ashur mean god of war and evil, and Dave as well as the mean point and I am surprised of the similarity here with what is there of similarity, but in reverse Arjen Medes, or that the enemy of Aryans were defeated slightest history i see there were similarly daves and ashor have same meaning both mean enemy of humanizm
@Saraswathiputra What do you mean, not Darvain emigrated to South India by more than 15000years by sea not route through the north. Yes, you can study the genes to prove the truth and I am a Kurd call you to study the history of the Zagros (shanider cave 60000-80000) and Gutes and Kassites and hittites all in google ececlopedia The peacock that symbel for a caste of Kurds Ezdyi can see on the google( Lalish ececlopedia) Ezdyicaste belive him religion belong to adam , subject is about zoroastr
Puranic hindus are polytheist & believe mainly in Black Gods. Krishna (Means supreme Black God who killed aryans had 16000+ white wives) Lingam means a Black dick. the black blood that flows through the veins of every dravidian puranic hindus. Puranic hindus dont follow vedas as much is lost by black arab invaders of punjab/sind & Hindus are governed by jati based Puranas thats not vedas. BACK TO THE VEDAS. Many persians look arab(black) & Turk(mongoloid) coz of conquest. Puranic hindus are FAKE
@Saraswathiputra Vedic Aryans split . Vedas has no beginning nor end sacred to all Aryans. Read the vedas asura is also god in the original texts later changed to evil as became devyas. vedic aryans are the persians who later became zoroastrians the aryans of india fled, died out due to miscegenation. Krishna is the black god of puranic hindus dravidians killed all aryans enslaving them. sanskrit is a dead language. tamil is the only living classical language of india.
@Saraswathiputra What is this Amotpa you combine Almthera and Avesta and Mazda of Manhattan you are and what your sources Zara was born west of the Caspian Sea in the province of Urmia. And Zara of the Medes and Persians is not. Greek historian in the fourth century BC, Iran was known at the time the Median empire and very Aqaysta Kurdish Alahjp Hawrami (ahorami) of which were the Medes speak out.The constraint is after Mithra far as I know
l liked to know your source and you plz from where
Mittanis celebrating Visuvu which is celebrated still in India.
Mittanis are Harappans who migrated out of India due complete drying of Saraswathi river in 1900BC,in 200 years they reached near Turkey as they are moving as a settlement by conquering new areas.
@Saraswathiputra The black bramhins add 'a' to negate sura became asura. Also Mazda is not Medha but Mahadha - means magnificent magnifique. Blacks have tried everything to destroy aryans completely from india - saraswathi putra. vedas have no beginning or end But Puranic hindus which saraswati putra belongs call vedanta or end of vedas. saraswati is dead like sanskrit so are aryans in India. Generally Indians look like rajnikant or Mithun chakraborty. though they can speak english or not aryan.
Here,those some twisters of history claim those Aryans were on the way to India.Then,how Mittanis Aryans would have Peacock as their royal emblem, Peacock is not present West or any area as notable bird.
As per their argument,those Aryans known previously had mysterious vision of flora and fauna of the area which they going to settle.
Burchard Brentjes argued that Indo-Aryans were settled in the Near East much before 1600 B.C.E.With all the trading relations between various parts of India and the Near East, dating as far back as 4000 BCE with the find of cotton in Dhuwelia and carnelian bead in Mesopotamia in the third millennium BCE, the migration of Indo-Aryans is not a fantasy tale.
In fact there are many arguments in support of. Archaeologists have not found Central Asian, Eastern European or Caucasian culture in the Mittani kingdom. At the time same time they found the peacock motif -- something which could have come from India.
According to H. Jacobi (who believed that the Mittanis came from India), since the worship of Vedic deities was happening in 14th century Mittani kingdom, it would have happened in India much earlier. Jamna Das Akhtar and P.E.Dumont thought that the dates were even earlier
There are several reasons, but to be brief, I shall only give three: 1. the deities Indra,Mitra, Varun.a, and Nasatya are Indian deities and not Iranian ones, because in Iran Varun.a is unknown and Indra and Nasatya appear as demons; 2. the name Vasukhani makes sense in Sanskrit as a "mine of wealth" whereas in Iranian it means "good mine" which is much less likely; 3. satta, or sapta, for seven, rather than the Iranian word hapta, where the initial `s' has been changed to `h'
But is this language Indo-Iranian, Iranian or Indo-Aryan or to rephrase: did the Mittanis speak the PIE branch of India.? That matter was settled in 1960 by Paul Thime
A text by a Mitannian named Kikkuli uses words such as aika (eka, one), tera (tri, three), panza (panca, ¯ve), satta (sapta, seven), na (nava, nine), vartana (vartana, round). Another text has babru (babhru, brown), parita (palita, grey), and pinkara (pi _ ngala, red). Their chief festival was the celebration of visuva (solstice) very much like in India. It is not only the kings who had Sanskrit names; a large number of other Sanskrit names have been unearthed in the records from the area
In a treaty between the Hittites and the Mitanni in 1700BC near Syria Turkey border(clay tablets are excavated thee), Indic deities Mitra, Varuna, Indra, and N¹asatya (Asvins) are invoked.
Asura, from Sanskrit meaning a "power-seeking" and "power-hungry" being, is similar to a Titan, often, but somewhat misleading, described as a "demon"; or anaya (non-Aryan) people of ancient India. The term's derivation is uncertain. Some scholars derive it from Ashur, the Assyrian god, or from the breath (asu) of Prajapati, or from the root as (to be). According to a Hindu myth, a-sura is the negation of sura, an Indo-Aryan liquor, and refers to non-Aryan abstainers.
In Hindu mythology sura came to mean a minor godin contrast to a-sura, "not-god" or "demon," but this is believed to be a false etymology.In older part of the Rg Veda, asura refers to the supreme spirit, like the Zoroastrian Ahura Mazdah, or to Vedic deities (devas) such as Varuna, Agni, Mitra, and Indra. In younger Vedic texts and Hindu mythology asuras become demons or titans who war against the devas (gods). (cf., in the Iranian tradition ahura came to mean "god"
while dacva came to mean "demon").According to Satapathe Brahmana the devas and asuras both came from Prajapati, but the former chose true speech while the latter chose the lie. Aitarcya Brahmana relates that devas hold power by day and asuras hold equal power by night.The non-Aryan Danavas and Laityas were called asuras. These may have been peoples who were opponents of the non-Aryans and who were mythologically
These may have been peoples who were opponents of the non-Aryans and who were mythologically equated with titans and demons.Asuras are not necessarily evil while devas are not necessarily good. They are consubstantial, distinguished only by their mutual opposition, which is not conceived as an absolute ethical dualism. A.G.H.
So,you have studied those details clearly.But,I have gone through the same study which debunked those Aryan migration from west to east but confirmed the migration from east to west.
Again,sorry for your foolishness on Hittites and Medes origin.Again,you are giving those political details not where those Hittites came from.
Of course migration from east to west, this is true that I'm talking about the end of the Bronze Age, and what I mean and the Indus Valley is the Indus River in Pakistan's present. There is no doubt that the Medes were Aryans who settled west of the Caspian Sea and their descendants founded the great Median empire they founded the city of Hamedan, capital of the Medes. Medes and is one of the Aryan tribes. The Hittites also understood from the Indo-European tribes had previously Anatolia
Good story telling and it is your guess but not true.Where is Aryan Invasion dear.All very recent archeology and genetics debunked Aryan Invasion theory.Read,Vedic texts which clearly give complete details of Aryans.
Aryans are origin in dried Saraswathi basin of North India.Aryans have tow family,one was Suras or Vedic Aryans,other was Asura which include Persians and Medes.
@Saraswathiputra It's not the story she discovered modern by archaeologists Russians where he discovered residual city Aryan and wagon mythical Aryans and the skeleton of a horse where they were renowned for his education and this site in Central Asia and it migrated at the end of the Bronze Age to the Valley of Hindus and to Iran and any If you read the history of the Hittites valuable Andol it refers to the unrest and the reason for the fall of the Hittite empire
@Saraswathiputra It's not the story she discovered modern by archaeologists Russians where he discovered residual city Aryan and wagon mythical Aryans and the skeleton of a horse where they were renowned for his education and this site in Central Asia and it migrated at the end of the Bronze Age to the Valley of Hindus and to Iran and any If you read the history of the Hittites valuable Andol it refers to the unrest and the reason for the fall of the Hittite empire this l meanted l wish more
@Saraswathiputra after the fall of hittites empire and migration of Aryans to Anatolia with the Hittites are manninian(Aryans) keep track were in conflict with the Assyrians and the capture of their leader and banished to the country Alachor and after the liberation of families united with the Medes in 814 BC where it was later Balmidiin who were able to In 612 BC Astela the capital of the Assyrian empire and the fall of Nineveh and they
@Saraswathiputra There was no ARYAN INVASION STOP TELLING LIES ARYA VARTA spread from EUROPE TO CENTRAL ASIA almost all of whats now south Asia. Stop bullshit Aryan invasion colonial lie. Dravidians were the conquerors of India thats why Puranic Hindus worship Black GOD MAIN GOD KRISHNA. KRUNVANTI VISHVAM ARYAM. WORLD IS THE ABODE OF ARYANS.
Shapes the Arabic Language in the third century AD that Arabs belong to the semite family who descended from Hsbp Ethiopia,but not to the people of Mesopotamia who the people of the Zagros,which belongs to the family of Iran and the Arabs entered Mesopotamia during the invasions of the Islamic era age where he had founded two colonies is Kufa Alerp on the ruins of the city of Basra and the Christian promise was destroyed by the city north of Basra and present both on the western edge mesopotamia
@goran21715 It's not the story she discovered modern by archaeologists Russians where he discovered residual city Aryan and wagon mythical Aryans and the skeleton of a horse where they were renowned for his education and this site in Central Asia and it migrated at the end of the Bronze Age to the Valley of Hindus and to Iran and any If you read the history of the Hittites valuable Andol it refers to the unrest and the reason for the fall of the Hittite empire.these i meanted if have other wise
@goran21715 Its true Central Asia was part of the Aryan Abode the russians u are reffereing to have found evidence in the deserts of turkmenistan. You are absolutely right. Durepanya the arab moslem & saraswatiputra the black dravidian want to bullshit their grouse on Utube.
Drvidan not Aryans but they are Negroes. They came to India from East Africa keep track said there were three groups of 1 set the Tibetan Plateau (the Mongols & Korean & Chinese & Indians in the Americas) 2 Group Plateau of Ethiopia (Semitic&Egyptian &Nubian&Africans) 3 Group endo-European (Plateau Zagros& Iran Caucasus & Europeans mean Zagros he Mesopotamia were descended of the population of zagros, as well as (hurrian and hittits ,gutes and kassits, elimits) ancient peoples persians and medes
Aryans in their Central Asia at the end of the third millennium and the beginning of the second millennium have migrated due to drought and drought valuable 3 migrations key1to Iran and Afghanistan, where the Persians and Medes 2to eastern Iran,where sythyan 3to the Valley of Hindus and their doctrine of Aryan Mathra and from the development of this doctrine in the hands of the Medes to the Zoroastrian In the valley of Hindus to Buddhism &Hinduism.Where the newly discovered location of the city
@Saraswathiputra YES I STAND BY WHAT I HAVE WRITTEN. YOU WROTE IN ENGLISH WILL THAT MAKE YOU BRITISH? Dravidians know sanskrit & puranas are the willy bullshit work of black bramhins(what evr skin color), PURANAS ARE DIFFERENT VEDAS ARE DIFFERENT. PURANAS ARE THERE IN PLENTY IN ALL LANGUAGES. Which INDOLOGY COURSE HAVE YOU DONE from ASI?
@Saraswathiputra Yes Sumerian is an ancient civilization till recent discovery since Aryans were nomadic. In Aryan history there is mention of cities & civilization close to the seas. So its a moot point to see who came first the chicken or the egg. Puranic hindus are the least civilized people who finished of the Vedic Aryans who are the present people of India and follow Krishna(Black Man all powerful supreme God) hinduism.
@mishrik Sumerians not race,the High, but they are residents of the Golan Zagros (I mean node Zagros) came down gradually from north to south, and the first witness is the village of Jarmo 7000bc and Nuzi more than 3000 and then Tel fakhar north of Samarra, and so on.To prove that Saddam was close studies Sumerian because it is scientists found To the fact that they are not Semites.In the middle of the third millennium in 2400bc appeared to any invasions Semitic tribes of Akkadians and Assyrians
@Saraswathiputra I don't try to show or challenge anybody! I just said that sumerians were semitic and that guy mishric jumped on my head that i love Osama bin Laden! Isn't that so pathetic?
@Durepanya Sumerians not race,the High,but they are residents of the Golan Zagros (I mean node Zagros) came down gradually from north to south, and the first witness is the village of Jarmo 7000 and Nuzi more than 3000 and then Tel fakhar north of Samarra, and so on.To prove that Saddam was close studies Sumerian because it is scientists found To the fact that they are not Semites.In the middle of the third millennium in 2400 bc appeared to any invasions Semitic tribes of Akkadians and Assyryian
@Durepanya@mishrik What is this fallacy of the Egyptians and the Phoenicians, the Canaanites, and Mesopotamia and other ancient peoples not the Arabs, the sense of national security. : Arabs are Semitic folks. Arabic such as language that appeared in the third century AD, and challenged you all the historians to prove the opposite. And ask why the government offices in Persian until the reign of the Umayyad (Abdul Malik bin Marwan). You can not understand that 1% of any of these languagesand
@mishrik Arab it`s a semitic language. It`s as old as aryans. And it was spoken in majority in middle east, Mesopotamia, Palestine, Phoenicia. In Africa, the Egyptians. Just stop these low-minded comments(from what i see you have 2 thumb up perhaps from others 2 low-minded), you speak as a person with a huge missunderstanding of history. You destroyed the meaning of this clip. Blow your snot elsewhere! Stay away from Youtube
@Durepanya Aryans are ancient Arabs are Old. See thats the difference! Arabic is an Afro asian Language coming from Africa through Black terrorists that destroyed the world and are still doing the same even now. Death to Arab Pigs and Turkish rats. This Clip is about the great Zaruthustra now dont say he is an african Arab. Osama is an Arab. He is there on You tube and I just checked you are his biggest FAN.
@mishrik How did u deduced that i`m his greatest fan? Seriously man, you make me laugh. Too bad you should respect me and my oppinion as i respect your nice country.
@Durepanya I dont respect Osama the terrorist do You. I respect Zaruthushtra Do You?
Islam is Terrorism. The only purpose of ISlam is destruction and enslaving the Non Arab World. Muhammed was a Black skinned MEccan like the sudaneese Janjaweed. Your ancestors. Poor Allah does not have a translator as he or she can understand only Arabic, Arabic Sucks. The language is like a pig fart!
@mishrik Ohh...someone's head is stuck in dark ages. Dude, i'm european, i come from a country wich it's folklore myths derives from mazdeist doctrines so next time just think that on youtube there are peoples and peoples. ;)
@Durepanya And that some one are the Arabs and his supporters like Osama and u. Who want to marry kids and be pedophiles. Blow up ancient budhhas bomb people in Asia, europe and USA. Practise discrimination and impose JAziya./ Jadhiya on non Arab PEOPLES. Janjaweed are the scum the very race of the once true MEccans.
@mishrik DUUUUUDE where did i said that i support criminal regimes??? Just point me the fucking sentence from wich results that i support Osama in wich by the way i don't even believe ! You fucking make me laughing. Show me a picture with you i bet you look arabic/semitic. xD Oh, and by the way if you read some history zoroastrians destroyed some christian churchs once but should i blame Zarathustras for that?? NO! I blame humans! teachings of all religions are good but the problem are humans!
@Durepanya "Arab it`s a semitic language. It`s as old as aryans. And it was spoken in majority in middle east, Mesopotamia, Palestine, Phoenicia. In Africa, the Egyptians." This is what you wrote praising Arabs the black african hordes of Muhammed & his gang of pedophiles. Aryans are the most ancient, advanced culture. Black Arabs are desert lizards with poison. Arabic was nubian & meccan language that spread through swords cutting necks of that didnot ISLAM(SUBMIT) & accepting Arab god Allah.
@mishrik And that points that i support Osama?? That non-existent terorist? Kid, seriously, you got to start reading some books, i don't wanna harm your...intelect with my replies it sims that you're brain has lot of oil more than Iran does.
indo-europeans(aryans) are not the first civ. in history, the first civ is Sumer. Nationalism doesn't have any place in scientific areea, don't mix you're personal feelings into historical issues.
You only point us a poor nationalism next time be smarter.BYE
@Durepanya Who said European civilization is the OLDEST? Eur -Asia is the lands of Ancient civilizations and the Aryan contribution is Great!! The only other great civilisations were in Americas and Egypt the Maghreb parts and not the black african sub saharan countries that exist now. I can understand your feet is slippery due to all the oil in the Arab lands. I said Arabs had no civilization & are desert lizards in culture. They destroyed culture itself with their ISlam (sumbission).
Sorry all for filling up this page with replies to that dumbkopf mishric.
From Mazdeist thinking the first human rights been created!
The west media must end mocking persian civ by bombarding us with informations about greeks. Ok, greeks are one of the greatest civilizations no doubt but peoples are portraying Greeks as the symbol of justice and freedom with all that was a slave society and the Persians as the symbol of injustice and slavery but were having the first human rights. Peace !
@Durepanya What is this fallacy of the Egyptians and the Phoenicians, the Canaanites, and Mesopotamia and other ancient peoples not the Arabs, the sense of national security. : Arabs are Semitic folks. Arabic such as language that appeared in the third century AD, and challenged you all the historians to prove the opposite. And ask why the government offices in Persian until the reign of the Umayyad (Abdul Malik bin Marwan). You can not understand that 1% of any of these languagesand where t
@goran21715 Man, i don't understand your point thus i just wanna end discussion telling you that i didn't wanted to start an entire debate here regarding arabs, i was just pissed off by that medieval mind of mishric. And i`m not a historian even if i`m first year at history faculty. I started to hate history faculty and debates with amateurs(like me and you all here) because of the peoples who mix up they're personal frustration and dreams with history issues.
@mishrik What is this fallacy of the Egyptians and the Phoenicians, the Canaanites, and Mesopotamia and other ancient peoples not the Arabs, the sense of national security. : Arabs are Semitic folks. Arabic such as language that appeared in the third century AD, and challenged you all the historians to prove the opposite. And ask why the government offices in Persian until the reign of the Umayyad (Abdul Malik bin Marwan). You can not understand that 1% of any of these languagesand where the
If Zoroaster had not been born, Christianity would have never existed.
And by simple observation and comparisson, I can say that most of the Jewish holidays are based in Old Persian-Mazdeist traditions-festivities(Passavah-No Rouz, Hanukkah-Yalda), taking on account that the Arian Persian civilization is much older than the Jewish-Cannanite one.
In humble adoration with hands outstretched I pray to O'Mazda.
O' Ahura rise within me and grant me steadfast of purpose.
We revere good thought, good words and good deeds.
Done and to be done, now and hence forth.
5485Ron 2 months ago
who is the first monotheist prophet in the history of mankind & where he was nominated as prophet? After 44 years of research I have discovered that the birthday of this reverend prophet was 3593 years before the birth of Zoroaster i.e. 9700 years BC.or11697 years agoThis prophet who has remained veiled as yet was living in a country known as Iranovich in the world and he was the founder of the first monotheist religion of ancient times that is Mehr (Mitra) religion or sun worship religion.
goran21715 3 months ago
@goran21715
I agree with you, but I want to learn more, please message me a link where I can learn more about the Prophet Mehrabad.
Jhaub420 2 months ago
@Jhaub420 he is not maradad ,but mahabad on google (The First Monotheist Prophet) and for more about ancient aryan and Zoroaster on google (History of the Ancient Aryans) thank so much l wish you all good
goran21715 2 months ago
Zoroaster's birthday was repeated by subsequent Greek chronographers, the main source for subsequent quotations was Lertius' third manuscript,\. Meanwhile elsewhere in his book, relating from Hermodoros, Plato's student, the same author says Zoroaster was born 5000 years before the battle of Troy. Since Xerex invaded Greece in 480 B.C. and the battle of Troy was fought in the year 1184 B.C., the birthday of Zoroaster, as related by Lertius must be 6184 B.C.
goran21715 3 months ago
Mahabad is believed to be a pre-Zoroastrian Prophet and may be an alternative name for Adam.[1] He is also called "Azar Hooshang" (the Fire of Wisdom).
He was the first of fifteen successive prophets, the thirteenth of whom was Zoroaster and the last was Sasan, from whom the Sassanid Dynasty may be supposed to trace their descent. Their writings are said to be collected in the Dasatir-i-Asmani.
The Paiman-i-Farhang (Excellent Covenant) is Mahabads code of laws.
goran21715 3 months ago
Thanx for the reply Eddie, good luck with that. From where I stand Zoroastrianism seems a good thing and can only be an influence for the good. All the best Bro.
14up0 3 months ago
@14up0 That is the reason why Zoroastrian faith has endured for nearly 4000 years, exemplary and yet unexampled, no doubt! it is all for the better of humanity and that is for sure.
Thanks to you too for sharing your thoughts. Love and Respect.
eddienamini 3 months ago
In this sense all creations are designed and made by God. Hence, creation implies a combination of giving and shaping, emanating and designing, shaping and augmenting. Creation was not ex nihilo -- out of nothingness. Creation has always been in God and with God.
eddienamini 3 months ago
Ahura Mazda is the creator. The Gathic words conveying this idea: Datar & Tashea. The 1st word (from the root Da) = giver and bestower (Y43.5, Y46.9). In this sense, all blessings r given by God, all that is good emanates from him. The 2nd word (from the root Tash meaning cut and shape) = shaper, designer & maker (Y44.5).
eddienamini 3 months ago
The two attributes of "Vohu Mana" and "Asha" often appear together in association with Ahura Mazda. Duchesne-Guillemin calls them the Holy Triad. The process of Zarathushtra's elevation to prophethood reflects the joint functioning of the three.
eddienamini 3 months ago
Goodness, constructiveness, and justice (truth) are central to Zarathushtra's concept of Ahura Mazda. Wisdom and truth are the constant threads of the main theme running through Avesta and the Gathas.
eddienamini 3 months ago
The term Ahura Mazda signifies the Lord of both celestial and terrestrial worlds. Ahura means "life" and Mazda means "wisdom. Ahura Mazda is the Essence and Lord of Life and Wisdom.
eddienamini 3 months ago
@BlackChick82 way to go! and I'm sure you know the story in the Gospel about the three wise men who had followed the star from the east and brought offerings for baby Jesus... were Zoroastrian priest from Persia.
eddienamini 3 months ago
Homat - Hoght - Havarasht... good thoughts, good words, good deeds. Ahura Mazda is the One True God w'th much Wisdom, Righteousness-cum-Justice, Serenity-with-love, Divine Might, Brotherhood, Perfection for all Eternity. Praise Holy Asha...
eddienamini 3 months ago
I am not particularly virtuous or intelligent (if at all), done more than my fare share of bad deeds, bad words, bad thoughts and like an idiot will probably continue to do so, until the grim reaper kicks my ass, but it greatly saddens me that such a pleasant and reasonable philosophy/religion, was detered from it's rightful expansion.
14up0 3 months ago
@14up0 for this is a demonic world we live in and evil doers are crafty at their work, but the sun won't always stay behind the clouds.
eddienamini 3 months ago
@eddienamini Hi Eddie, are you saying that the Zorarastrian religion/philosophy is due for a revivial or that there is going to be a major triumph of good over evil? As nice as that sounds, it seems very difficult in a reality so founded in killing, just for survival alone. Even as a vegetarian I destroy life to eat to survive. This being only a minor point among many. Might out look being very influenced by Catherism, the wiped out medievel sect. However in all honesty, I know nothing.
14up0 3 months ago
@eddienamini Hi Eddie, are you saying that the Zorarastrian religion/philosophy is due for a revivial or that there is going to be a major triumph of good over evil? As nice as that sounds, it seems very difficult in a reality so founded in killing, just for survival alone. Even as a vegetarian I destroy life to eat to survive. This being only a minor point among many. My out look being very influenced by Catherism, the wiped out medievel sect. However in all honesty, I know nothing.
14up0 3 months ago
@14up0 I perceive Zoroastriansm as a way of life, as a final resolution 4mankind. And that this way of looking at life, itself, is also susceptible to various interpretations. This alone makes it rather impossible to come to a total comprehensive outlook to our understanding in full the meaning of divinity... but as for the fundamental belief in Catharism based on a dualistic and gnostic way of worship: it all comes down to taking sides with God which is simply "goodness" and thats that I know!
eddienamini 3 months ago
I would say with a 100% "historian's confidence" that the whole Abrahamanic religious tradition, be the Judeo-Christian and Islamic traditions, are based in the Ancient Mazdyan religion and the Zoroastrian philosophy. Correct me if I am wrong, please.
mirarostodo 4 months ago
@mirarostodo
Yes and I would say with 100% confidence that you are 100% correct.
Jhaub420 3 months ago
@mirarostodo right l like you read this web to see what you say (The First Monotheist Prophet) and the second web on google ((History of the Ancient Aryans) and read all 15 (saga) chapter and note all tradation of aryan peoples
goran21715 2 months ago
@mirarostodo right you can see that on google ((History of the Ancient Aryans) and read 15 saga (chapter) and read ((The First Monotheist Prophet) to see all you say and hidusian and buddah too
goran21715 2 months ago
According to linguistics &internal evidence of the Avesta,the IranoAryan language family originated high in the splendid Hind Kush mountains of Afghanistan.Historical data indicates that one of these ProtoIranic-speaking tribes was denominated Gut'This ancient Iranic root denominated "warrior,as the erudite Waddell notes,the affixed title of Gut or 'Warrior(Waddell1929,One branch of this legendary Gut or warrior tribe migrated to India,where they eventually became the renowned Jate
goran21715 4 months ago
According to the Avesta and the historical records in Iran, from the time of Hooshang, the Pishdadi king, until the confirmation of Zoroaster in the fortieth year of the reign of Goshtasb of Kianian Dynasty, the Mehr religion was the popular and common religion of the Iranian people. Mehabad's prophethood is called the Abadian Dynasty and in the meantime Mehabad can be considered as the first founder of constitution for mankind
goran21715 4 months ago
The Medes were an people of Indo-Iranian (Aryan) origin who inhabited the western and north-western portion of present-day Iran. By the 6th century BC (prior to the Persian invasion) the Medes were able to establish an empire that stretched from Aran (the modern-day Republic of Azerbaijan) to Central Asia and Afghanistan. Today's population of the western part of the Iranian Plateau (including many Persian-speakers, Kurds consider themselves to be descended from the ancient Medes.
goran21715 4 months ago
@goran21715 Ecbatana is where Darius the Mede had ruled years before the Achaemenid Empire whence from the story about Daniel of Sousa thrown in the lion pit is a historical record in the book of bible which many archaeologists and scholars have debates. Even an older city in that region is "Elam"... another kurd'sh town.
eddienamini 3 months ago
@eddienamini The Lullubi were a group of tribes during the 3rd millennium BC, from a region known as Lulubum, now the Sharazor plain of in the Zagros identified their city Lulubuna with the modern Kurdish town,Halabja.The early Sumerian legend "Lugalbada&the Anzud Bird",set in the reign of Enmerkar of Uruk, alludes to the "mountains of Lulubi" as being where the character of Lugalbanda encounters the gigantic Anzud bird while searching for the rest of Enmerkar's army en route to siege Aratta.
goran21715 3 months ago
@eddienamini thank for your comment, there were more kurdish city more ancient , like Arbil which established by Hurrian in 6000 BC & arrrapha ,modern Kirkuk and Nuzi (Ga-suer) mean red ox,and allappo in syria and Halabja the Lullubi city contemporary to sumerian city Kish or perhaps befor it&MUsh in north kurdistan which was capital of Subartu whom they offshoot of hurrian in 3 millenium,GUTI (Kurdi) , Ka-spi( Kassite) whom the exsist in midd euphra
goran21715 3 months ago
fail music btw
exopantadikio21 5 months ago
The Medes were an people of Indo-Iranian (Aryan) origin who inhabited the western and north-western portion of present-day Iran. By the 6th century BC (prior to the Persian invasion) the Medes were able to establish an empire that stretched from Aran (the modern-day Republic of Azerbaijan) to Central Asia and Afghanistan. Today's population of the western part of the Zagros Plateau (including many Persian-speakers, Kurds and Azeris) consider themselves to be descended from the ancient Medes.
goran21715 5 months ago
So, once again....as I saw everywhere....muslim invasions had destroyed everything they touched.
sinoples 5 months ago
@sinoples everything except for their monuments carved out of solid rock, usually high up the mountains, and of course what Arabs could never destroy is what has maintained the same for melliniums is a sense of unity as a very rich fount of their culture. (dispersed in 4 different countries yet they speak the same language.)
eddienamini 3 months ago
@eddienamini
Thanks for your answer....'edidienamini' Huuuummm I need to read more about this Zoroastrian subject.
Are you iranian?!? Me no, but I was/I very attracted by old iranians (not modern muslims sorry).
sinoples 3 months ago
@sinoples ur welcome... that's a wonderful subject to read about. And yes, I am Iranian by birth... may I ask what drew your attention to the roots of this culture and to ancient Pars? cheers:-)
eddienamini 3 months ago
@eddienamini Huuuummm.....I must go back to childhood, for mty plan was to move to Greece.Iran, and of course, India *!*. On 70'ies I, and, my close ones, we were utterly shocked by the occidental powers helping to destroy the Shah's dreams. Useful or not USA in due time now they were at fault, France too.
Years latter I enjoyed a personal friendship with a suffi Master. Other friends from the diaspora I met in Paris. So the mythical persian Bird plane over me, but....which is his name ?!?
sinoples 3 months ago
the Mitanni, the deities Mitra, Varuna, Indra, and Nasatya (Ashvins) are invoked. Kikkuli's horse training text includes technical terms such as aika (eka, one), tera (tri, three), panza (pancha, five), satta (sapta, seven), na (nava, nine), vartana (vartana, turn, round in the horse race). The numeral aika "one" is of particular importance because it places the superstrate in the vicinity of Indo-Aryan proper as opposed to Indo-Iranian or early Iranian (which has "aiva") in general
goran21715 5 months ago
according to Torah Adam was born in the year 3761 B.C., Noah in 2705 B.C., Abraham in 1815 and Moses in 1392 B.C. Now if any researcher has doubt about the birthday of Zoroaster he may mention his objection and we will reply. We Iranians are an oppressed nation who have no recorded history because our real history which incorporated millions of volumes were burnt to ashes by Arab, Mongol and Tatar invaders.
goran21715 5 months ago
Then who is the first monotheist prophet in the history of mankind and where he was nominated as prophet? After 44 years of research I have discovered that the birthday of this reverend prophet was 3593 years before the birth of Zoroaster i.e. 9700 years B.C. or 11697 years ago (retroactive to 1997). This prophet who has remained veiled as yet was living in a country known as Iranovich in the world and he was the founder of the first monotheist religion of ancient times that is Meh
goran21715 5 months ago
this way of thought makes much more sense to me.
silversification 6 months ago
Mahabad is believed to be a pre-Zoroastrian Prophet and may be an alternative name for Adam. He is also called "Azar Hooshang" (the Fire of Wisdom).
He was the first of fifteen successive prophets, the thirteenth of whom was Zoroaster and the last was Sasan, from whom the Sassanid Dynasty may be supposed to trace their descent. Their writings are said to be collected in the Dasatir-i-Asmani.
The Paiman-i-Farhang (Excellent Covenant) is Mahabads code of laws
goran21715 7 months ago
Do you have the avesta in english complete and trustworthy translation in video would be great?
keyvan1967 8 months ago
@keyvan1967
go to avesta.org, you will see translations in different languages
shitonMOHAMMAD 7 months ago
I've read some Gathas and Avesta's although this was years ago. I was wondering if you could explain the how the Dualism of day to day existence becomes the Monotheism that Mazda-ism ( forgive me if you don't prefer that term) is famous for. I know this is not a question that can be answered in the comments section but it is something I have wondered about for years. If you would please PM me an answer I would be grateful.
tzimtzum1618 9 months ago
@tzimtzum1618
At the end of time, during the divine event known as Freshokereti "the renovation of the world", God Ahura Mazda will destroy Angra mainyu the evil mentality and all evil will cease to exist, and the world will enter a pure state of non-duality.
Though you live in a state of duality now, the Zoroastrian religion teaches you should strive to reach a state of non-duality within, just as God strives to create a Universe which is not afflicted by duality through his divine plan.
mally97able 7 months ago
I will here those details of genetic study which yourself you can verify!
If any mistake is there,tell me.
Genetic study could give the time of presence of particular haplogroup accurately.
Saraswathiputra 9 months ago
@Saraswathiputra l will thankful if you send me detial of genetic stady to my email when get it thank again
goran21715 9 months ago
Dont enter into unnecessary loose talks and opinions!
I have never given my opinions!!
Saraswathiputra 9 months ago
If you interested to know the antiquity of Vedic city of Dwaraka, other details on its scientific dating and photos of underground city,you may visit the above site. Just put (.)where I have written as dot and before com.Dont copy and paste.You wont get the site.
grahamhancock com/forum/BadrinaryanB1dotphp
Here,you verify the authentic archeology details which is very recent and of experts.
so,I have given verifiable archeology with expert details who participated in it.
Accept or refute it!
Saraswathiputra 9 months ago
Very powerful proof of Vedic age is given by Lord Krishnas Dwarka underwater excavation done in 2002.One can see online all submerged cities,fort etc and details.All forts and cities submerged were found which exactly as per Mahabharata version.Many artifiacts were found.Two drilled wood pieces were sent for scientific dating to two places in Europe.One gave value of 5500 BC and another is 7500BC.But 7500 BC is more stronger as per experts.Which conforms antiquity of vedic culture.
Saraswathiputra 9 months ago
I have already sent so many proofs.Those are most recent!!
Did you rad it.I have given in the name of experts as such verifiable!
Improve your reading ability.
You moron are not sincere in inquiry.You have not given any expert proof and not reading or refuting others!!
But,simply tell like stories and repeating your stories like a spoiled gram phone record.
Improve yourself!!
Saraswathiputra 9 months ago
Could you prove those Aryans arrived around 1500BC to India.Then Why
Rigveda tells a river which existed as a mighty river only 6000BC.
Why genetics gives 40,000 years to Aryans.
Stop dumb ass!
You disprove my proofs or get lost!
Tell where is the fallacy in my proofs!
Moron!
You opinion are not history!
Saraswathiputra 9 months ago
@Saraswathiputra fallacy were your date 40,000 year my dear , all sources talk in the end of bronze age. if we talk in myth migration from aryan homeland ( airyaman) north pole it talk about 20.000 year you must to achieve your info
goran21715 9 months ago
As per science,the most authentic is Archeology and genetics
These things if elaborately done by experts is most reliable.
I have given genetic study details on Dravidian and Aryans in India but you give some approximate details
Modern details debunked all ancient details.Know the truth
It is proved those South Indian Dravidian nowhere related to any Africans and they never reached South India by Northern route.This is proof by genetic study
Where comes approximation and Google outdated details
Saraswathiputra 9 months ago
@Saraswathiputra The most basic division of the Indian society is of Aryans and Dravidians. According to this division, nearly 72% of Indians are Aryans and 28% are Dravidians. The north Indians are the descendants of Aryans and the south Indians are Dravidians. The languages spoken in five states of south India are considered Dravidian languages and most of the languages spoken in the north are considered Aryan languages. The general script of the Aryan languages is different from the general
goran21715 9 months ago
@Saraswathiputra Before the arrival of the Aryans there were also other communities in India like Sino-Mongoloids and Austroloids. There were also other foreign immigrations and invaders who arrived in India, from time to time. There are many that completely doubt that there was ever any Aryan invasion in India. This skepticism is based on the dating of the Aryan invasion of India and the fact that Hinduism
these info from from indian history adenils info set not my opinion
goran21715 9 months ago
Your foolish things so much visible here.Why are talking on Neanderthals who are animal like people..
Your point proved that those Aryans who are nowhere related to place of Neanderthals and Aryans are advanced people only living in North India that time.
Your Noah stories are now proved copied details from Sumerian by semitic Babylonians. Sumerian are Vedic Aryans and migrated from ancient India
You are so much confused with history.
Improve your knowledge!
Saraswathiputra 9 months ago
@Saraswathiputra Before deciding that I invite you to take a little time to read the Shanedircave on google to see a human being or an animal similar to humans which is the subject for the history of man I know it has nothing to do the subject of Aryans, but was in response to your words on the subject of Darvidn and history that is not a challenge, but realities we want to We get it. , Whether tribes from Zagros mountain emigrated to hindus Valley or from hindus valley emigrated to zagros mo
goran21715 9 months ago
I see not wise to say that it is the story copied of Mesopotamia mythology and there were three religion speak about the incident and that the proven geological occurrence of such a flood, I know it does not exist Geological and mythology in China,,and I asked you if there is a mythology that is similar in Indian culture, if you reject this story, then based on what you are and what your reference What is the theory which explains races and how you talk about genes I see you in your confusing
goran21715 9 months ago
@goran21715 script of Dravidian languages. The Indians also distinguish themselves by the general north Indian accent and general south Indian accent.According to general Indian legend, the Aryans arrived in north India somewhere from Iran and southern Russia at around 1500 BC. Before the Aryans, the Dravidian people resided in India. The Aryans disregarded the local cultures. They began conquering and taking control over regions in north India and at the same time pushed the local
goran21715 9 months ago
@Saraswathiputra pushed the local people southwards or towards the jungles and mountains in north India. According to this historical fact the general division of Indian society is made. North Indians are Aryans and south Indians are Dravidians. But this division isn’t proper because of many reasons.
Many Indians immigrated from one part of India to other parts of India and not all local people of north India were pushed southwards by the Aryans. Some stayed and served the Aryans and others mov
goran21715 9 months ago
The tenth individual was recently discovered by M.Zeder during examination of a faunal assemblage from the site at the Smithsonian Institution.The remains seemed to Zeder to suggest that Neandertals had funeral ceremonies,burying their dead with flowers(although the flowers are now thought to be a modern contaminant and that they took care of injured individuals.One skeleton and casts of the others at the Smithsonian Institution are all that is left of the findings,the originals having been dis
goran21715 9 months ago
goran21715,why talk rubbish.Just talk to the point.I have sent you lot of details.
show is the fallacy and why it is false with your expert proof.Instead of why you are talking lose talks.
Improve first reading and understanding ability!!
Do you where originally great blood details are described so elaborately.It is in Vedic texts!
Moron! Improve your knowledge!
Saraswathiputra 9 months ago
A reconstruction of a Neanderthal child at Archaeological Museum of Bandar Abbas, IranThe Shanidar Cave site is most famous for having two skeletons, I and IV. Shanidar I was an elderly Neanderthal male known as Shanidar I, or ‘Nandy’ to its excavators. He was aged between 40 and 50 years, which was considerably old for a Neanderthal, equivalent to 80 years old today, and displaying severe signs of deformity. He was one of four reasonably complete skeletons from the cave which displayed
goran21715 9 months ago
Shanidar Cave is an archaeological site in the Zagros Mountains in northern Iraq. The site is located in the valley of the Great Zab. It was excavated from 1957–1961 by Ralph Solecki and his team from Columbia University and yielded the first adult Neanderthal skeletons in Iraq, dating between 60–80,000 years BP.
View of Shanidar CaveThe excavated area produced nine skeletons of Neanderthals of varying ages and states of preservation and completeness (labelled Shanidar I – IX).
goran21715 9 months ago
@Saraswathiputra there is something important I do not know it existed in the culture of India an incident the Great Flood and Noa And that the races come from his three children Sam& Ham &Jothephen&that Noah and his sons and some of whom had been with him in the ark came down on Mount Ararat as theOld Testament.Or on the Cudi mountain by the Koran.And the theory of races associated with this event.Do you believe in this event and Noah peace be upon all of this happened in Kurdistan answer me
goran21715 9 months ago
Again,if you say my comments is biased to Hindu,you have to prove by your comments how it is biased to Hindu.You could not give anything to refute!
But telling your opinions as history.
I have give everything with name of the scientist in my comment,if you paste online you get more details on that..The comments are designed like that!
Saraswathiputra 9 months ago
@Saraswathiputra Biased in everything that you are due to the Hindus not know real things about the ancient India, which I know that South India is different from the north. Because the changes that confound modern political concepts as the Valley today are Hindus in Pakistan and not in India, although located in the Indian Subcontinent and it's the same people in the race, but it is different in religion only.It's not PHP India, but in most other parts of my question Are you Darvidn
or ary
goran21715 9 months ago
And your skeleton details are never be reliable part of the history as per rule in archeology.Because,that skeleton might be belonged to people who visited for some purpose,may not related with that place.
But what I have like Dried river discovery,Gulf of Cambay Vedic city discovery in 2002 in India are very much confirmed by Vedic texts and give value of 9500 years by scientific dating.
Genetic study in very large scale give value to the presence of Aryan genes in India around 40,000 years.
Saraswathiputra 9 months ago
there is something important I do not know it existed in the culture of India an incident the Great Flood and Noah. And that the races come from his three children Sam& Ham &Jothephen& that Noah and his sons and some of whom had been with him in the ark came down on Mount Ararat as theOld Testament.Or on the Cudi mountain by the Koran.And the theory of races associated with this event.Do you believe in this event and Noah peace be upon all of this happened in Kurdistan (north mesopotamia)
goran21715 9 months ago
Again,you should understand the recent archeology and other details like genetics in India and abroad are so much confirmed by those references in ancient Vedic texts.
Again,Vedic people excelled in astronomy which is also one of the accurate proofs if it is maintained because nobody twist the details on ancient planetary position,our modern computers immediately fix it.
Vedic text referred many planetary combination in which are proved to be most accurate and all are personal observation.
Saraswathiputra 9 months ago
Yes, I understand modern archeology, as well as genes do not care that whichever one of the oldest, the Kurd, and proud I am descended from the Medes, the son of Jothaven son of Noah and Medes are Aryans group that migrated to the Zagros Mountains and founded the empire Median great control of both the Middle East from Afgastan to Egypt and Avesta Median language was still part of the Kurds speak a dialect (Haurami)
But I ask what you mean by Vida Do you mean the religious text or Aryans.
goran21715 9 months ago
Google or Wikipedia are not the site of confirmation but information.You can learn from there.
Both pro and anti references also there.
BUT,IN ARCHEOLOGY AND GENETICS ARE MOST AUTHENTIC WHICH I HAVE GIVEN.
THERE IS NO ROOM FOR PERSONAL OPINIONS.
Saraswathiputra 9 months ago
I have given expert book reference to confirm the first pharaoh of Egypt was from India.
All are verifiable expert references with name also I given!!
I have given complete details.
I think, you are not properly studied my details.After reading that,tell me where my details are incorrect.
Saraswathiputra 9 months ago
A new theory that he did not hear it real If it does mean that Aryan, If you mean did not read the details of the fact that I respect all what you write. But I see you often biased to the Hindu, this is your right but the scientific facts needs to be neutral and that surprised you say that the Aryan race is no longer found in India. And Valley And Reid to ask you about Mitanni Do they have signs or remnants of a certain sect was represented and what represents a peacock when Hindus
goran21715 9 months ago
First agricultural society was the Indus valley and Sumeria.Your Zagros ancient sites never related with Aryans and civilised.You are so much confusing yourselves.Please go through those study and the references given which are most authentic.
But,modern genetic study provide the antiquity to Aryans in India around 40,000 years.
Verify my details.
Dravidians in were South India around 65,000 years.they reached that place by
Sea rout of south eastern Asia and nowhere connected with North India
Saraswathiputra 9 months ago
@Saraswathiputra It is not a challenge if the Valley of Hindus first. Or Zagros that what I said about Jarmo installed by archaeologists 7000 years BC, in addition to the cities of Arbil citadel more than 10000 years before Almiladhma as a result of drilling eight layers and layers are civilized Other downright loud-year-old civilization that what I said about the cave Chandrtm discovered by archaeologists Amrbaki Ralph Sowski 1951 eight skeletons discovered and named Bradost human 60000-80000y
goran21715 9 months ago
There are plenty of details on Aryan origin in Vedic texts.I like to post here.Time taking for me.
But,I sent by mail,you study that.
You can verify that.
You people dont know Vedas and it details much.
All relevant details given there.
Go through patiently and verify yourself!
Saraswathiputra 9 months ago
Your Muslims not related to Aryans and just fucked stuff of those invading mixed Islamic mulattos!!
You morons have only those kind of understanding par with your lineage!
There is no reason for you people to know the Caste system.
As per genetic study Brahmins have the highest Aryans genes which are recorded in American forum of genetics.Verify!!
I think Proof wont help you much because you are a retard!
Saraswathiputra 9 months ago
What is this nonsense race, religion, what is the relationship Is that a new theory invented Hammad man is not even a living organism grows and develops with the fixed date and non-variable is in God alone. During migrations and Alihub and economic conditions and political and social rights Netgear valuable Yen, customs and traditions and lifestyle, and so may be Larrea and condemn Christianity or Islam
goran21715 9 months ago
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@Saraswathiputra What is this nonsense race, religion, what is the relationship Is that a new theory invented Hammad man is not even a living organism grows and develops with the fixed date and non-variable is in God alone. During migrations and Alihub and economic conditions and political and social rights Netgear valuable Yen, customs and traditions and lifestyle, and so may be aryan and belived to Christianity or Islam
goran21715 9 months ago
@Saraswathiputra Friend What is this intolerance what is the relationship of religion and creed and caste nationalism during the historical development and social development and conflict, trade and other occur Tgbratkthirp in the community so it is not logical to claim that so and so religion monopoly on a certain sect see punk my name from this idea closed if the debt is true, it belongs to the human And not for a certain range, but if it was behind a particular political goal
goran21715 9 months ago
Above all, genetics are not colour based!!
But based on facial features and cranial formation!!
Do you know blond Chinese people are there!!
Will they be added into Aryan category but they are mongoloids!!
Dont show your foolishness in the open fora!
Saraswathiputra 9 months ago
Moron!
I like to discuss everything openly to show that you are a dumb ass!
At that time,because of some posting problem,I posted in your page!
Stop your nonsense!
Saraswathiputra 9 months ago
@Saraswathiputra Jarmo village archaeological site located in southern Kurdistan (Iraqi Kurdistan), south of the Zagros Mountains east of the city of Kirkuk, known as the first agricultural society in the world, dating back to 7000 BC .. An area ranging between 12.000 - 16.000 square meters and located at a height of about 800 above sea level in a belt of oak and pistachio forests .. Been excavated at the site for the first time by Robert Braidwood .
goran21715 9 months ago
This is your approximation.Nobody is died.Sorry,for your wild guess.Could you prove how those South got so much original knowledge than the North Brahmins.
All ancient texts exist only in South.As per rule,those who have original texts necessarily are the original people.
Those people proved their intelligence in all fields!
This is most scientific!!
This is as per ancient Vedic rules itself!!
Get a life!
You are a retard!
Your skin color wont save you!!
Saraswathiputra 9 months ago
goran21715,there so many things in Vedic texts on Asura Aryans but all vouch the Aryans origin in India only.
Saraswathiputra 9 months ago
@Saraswathiputra POST WHAT YOU POSTED DIRECTLY ON THE SITE NOT SHYLY IN MY PROFILE PAGE mishri,you show that you are a moron!
Vedas and Sanskrit language cant be learned by those except from the Vedic lineage.
Your black Brahman stories are laughable matter.
Learning Sanskrit and Vedas even barred for upper Caste people with Aryan blood.How it be allowed to black dravidians.Dont show your foolishness!
Your smart words wont change that you know little!
mishrik 9 months ago
@Saraswathiputra vEDIC ARYANS ARE ALL DEAD. puranic hindus who worship black god Krishna know some vedas sanskrit to maintain BLACK superiority & caste dogmas/bullshit what you secretly mentioned on my profile page but hide it from posting on this comment page! present puranic hindus are black dravidians know sanskrit hymns from bihar to tulu/tamil nadu.why no vedic aryans are left. Obama has white lineage all indians have that kind of lineage from Black Krishna Fathers & white aryan women.
mishrik 9 months ago
@Saraswathiputra What are these things here in the north of Mesopotamia was the conflict and hostility with the Assyrians. ashur mean god of war and evil, and Dave as well as the mean point and I am surprised of the similarity here with what is there of similarity, but in reverse Arjen Medes, or that the enemy of Aryans were defeated slightest history i see there were similarly daves and ashor have same meaning both mean enemy of humanizm
goran21715 9 months ago
goran21715,Why are so much outdated and lot of approximation in your knowledge and detail.
Dravidians are not at all Africans and nowhere related any Africans as per recent genetic study details which I provide here.You can verify!!
Dravidians reached South India not Northern route by South sea route!
I have to start the history from scratch!
Again,Peacock is not part of the flora and fauna of Middle east or Kurdish region but in India.
Still,Peacock is the national bird of India.
Moron!!
Saraswathiputra 9 months ago
@Saraswathiputra What do you mean, not Darvain emigrated to South India by more than 15000years by sea not route through the north. Yes, you can study the genes to prove the truth and I am a Kurd call you to study the history of the Zagros (shanider cave 60000-80000) and Gutes and Kassites and hittites all in google ececlopedia The peacock that symbel for a caste of Kurds Ezdyi can see on the google( Lalish ececlopedia) Ezdyicaste belive him religion belong to adam , subject is about zoroastr
goran21715 9 months ago
Puranic hindus are polytheist & believe mainly in Black Gods. Krishna (Means supreme Black God who killed aryans had 16000+ white wives) Lingam means a Black dick. the black blood that flows through the veins of every dravidian puranic hindus. Puranic hindus dont follow vedas as much is lost by black arab invaders of punjab/sind & Hindus are governed by jati based Puranas thats not vedas. BACK TO THE VEDAS. Many persians look arab(black) & Turk(mongoloid) coz of conquest. Puranic hindus are FAKE
mishrik 9 months ago
Vedic texts give complete details on Aryans.There are two family of Aryans.
One is sura family or Vedic Aryans.Other is Asura family or those Aryans who settled in Persia and beyond,and accepted only the great God of Asuras
Ahura(Asura)Mazda(Medha)(Zoroastrians)
Brackets words give equivalents in Sanskrit for those ancient Persian words.
These two families from antiquity have great enmity
Both of them lived either side of the dried Saraswathi river in North India which died completely in 1900BC
Saraswathiputra 9 months ago
@Saraswathiputra Vedic Aryans split . Vedas has no beginning nor end sacred to all Aryans. Read the vedas asura is also god in the original texts later changed to evil as became devyas. vedic aryans are the persians who later became zoroastrians the aryans of india fled, died out due to miscegenation. Krishna is the black god of puranic hindus dravidians killed all aryans enslaving them. sanskrit is a dead language. tamil is the only living classical language of india.
mishrik 9 months ago
@Saraswathiputra What is this Amotpa you combine Almthera and Avesta and Mazda of Manhattan you are and what your sources Zara was born west of the Caspian Sea in the province of Urmia. And Zara of the Medes and Persians is not. Greek historian in the fourth century BC, Iran was known at the time the Median empire and very Aqaysta Kurdish Alahjp Hawrami (ahorami) of which were the Medes speak out.The constraint is after Mithra far as I know
l liked to know your source and you plz from where
goran21715 9 months ago
Mittanis celebrating Visuvu which is celebrated still in India.
Mittanis are Harappans who migrated out of India due complete drying of Saraswathi river in 1900BC,in 200 years they reached near Turkey as they are moving as a settlement by conquering new areas.
Saraswathiputra 9 months ago
@Saraswathiputra The black bramhins add 'a' to negate sura became asura. Also Mazda is not Medha but Mahadha - means magnificent magnifique. Blacks have tried everything to destroy aryans completely from india - saraswathi putra. vedas have no beginning or end But Puranic hindus which saraswati putra belongs call vedanta or end of vedas. saraswati is dead like sanskrit so are aryans in India. Generally Indians look like rajnikant or Mithun chakraborty. though they can speak english or not aryan.
mishrik 9 months ago
Here,those some twisters of history claim those Aryans were on the way to India.Then,how Mittanis Aryans would have Peacock as their royal emblem, Peacock is not present West or any area as notable bird.
As per their argument,those Aryans known previously had mysterious vision of flora and fauna of the area which they going to settle.
Saraswathiputra 9 months ago
@Saraswathiputra hahaha there in kurdistan you can see temple of them online write lalish you see allso peacock
goran21715 9 months ago
Burchard Brentjes argued that Indo-Aryans were settled in the Near East much before 1600 B.C.E.With all the trading relations between various parts of India and the Near East, dating as far back as 4000 BCE with the find of cotton in Dhuwelia and carnelian bead in Mesopotamia in the third millennium BCE, the migration of Indo-Aryans is not a fantasy tale.
Saraswathiputra 9 months ago
In fact there are many arguments in support of. Archaeologists have not found Central Asian, Eastern European or Caucasian culture in the Mittani kingdom. At the time same time they found the peacock motif -- something which could have come from India.
Saraswathiputra 9 months ago
According to H. Jacobi (who believed that the Mittanis came from India), since the worship of Vedic deities was happening in 14th century Mittani kingdom, it would have happened in India much earlier. Jamna Das Akhtar and P.E.Dumont thought that the dates were even earlier
Saraswathiputra 9 months ago
There are several reasons, but to be brief, I shall only give three: 1. the deities Indra,Mitra, Varun.a, and Nasatya are Indian deities and not Iranian ones, because in Iran Varun.a is unknown and Indra and Nasatya appear as demons; 2. the name Vasukhani makes sense in Sanskrit as a "mine of wealth" whereas in Iranian it means "good mine" which is much less likely; 3. satta, or sapta, for seven, rather than the Iranian word hapta, where the initial `s' has been changed to `h'
Saraswathiputra 9 months ago
But is this language Indo-Iranian, Iranian or Indo-Aryan or to rephrase: did the Mittanis speak the PIE branch of India.? That matter was settled in 1960 by Paul Thime
Saraswathiputra 9 months ago
A text by a Mitannian named Kikkuli uses words such as aika (eka, one), tera (tri, three), panza (panca, ¯ve), satta (sapta, seven), na (nava, nine), vartana (vartana, round). Another text has babru (babhru, brown), parita (palita, grey), and pinkara (pi _ ngala, red). Their chief festival was the celebration of visuva (solstice) very much like in India. It is not only the kings who had Sanskrit names; a large number of other Sanskrit names have been unearthed in the records from the area
Saraswathiputra 9 months ago
In a treaty between the Hittites and the Mitanni in 1700BC near Syria Turkey border(clay tablets are excavated thee), Indic deities Mitra, Varuna, Indra, and N¹asatya (Asvins) are invoked.
Saraswathiputra 9 months ago
@Saraswathiputra the gods u mentioned were gods of both sura and asura aryans. Both the devas and devyas what ever you call the dead aryans as!
mishrik 9 months ago
Asura, from Sanskrit meaning a "power-seeking" and "power-hungry" being, is similar to a Titan, often, but somewhat misleading, described as a "demon"; or anaya (non-Aryan) people of ancient India. The term's derivation is uncertain. Some scholars derive it from Ashur, the Assyrian god, or from the breath (asu) of Prajapati, or from the root as (to be). According to a Hindu myth, a-sura is the negation of sura, an Indo-Aryan liquor, and refers to non-Aryan abstainers.
goran21715 9 months ago
In Hindu mythology sura came to mean a minor godin contrast to a-sura, "not-god" or "demon," but this is believed to be a false etymology.In older part of the Rg Veda, asura refers to the supreme spirit, like the Zoroastrian Ahura Mazdah, or to Vedic deities (devas) such as Varuna, Agni, Mitra, and Indra. In younger Vedic texts and Hindu mythology asuras become demons or titans who war against the devas (gods). (cf., in the Iranian tradition ahura came to mean "god"
goran21715 9 months ago
while dacva came to mean "demon").According to Satapathe Brahmana the devas and asuras both came from Prajapati, but the former chose true speech while the latter chose the lie. Aitarcya Brahmana relates that devas hold power by day and asuras hold equal power by night.The non-Aryan Danavas and Laityas were called asuras. These may have been peoples who were opponents of the non-Aryans and who were mythologically
goran21715 9 months ago
These may have been peoples who were opponents of the non-Aryans and who were mythologically equated with titans and demons.Asuras are not necessarily evil while devas are not necessarily good. They are consubstantial, distinguished only by their mutual opposition, which is not conceived as an absolute ethical dualism. A.G.H.
goran21715 9 months ago
So,you have studied those details clearly.But,I have gone through the same study which debunked those Aryan migration from west to east but confirmed the migration from east to west.
Again,sorry for your foolishness on Hittites and Medes origin.Again,you are giving those political details not where those Hittites came from.
I will enlighten you on true history.
My details can be verified!
Saraswathiputra 9 months ago
Of course migration from east to west, this is true that I'm talking about the end of the Bronze Age, and what I mean and the Indus Valley is the Indus River in Pakistan's present. There is no doubt that the Medes were Aryans who settled west of the Caspian Sea and their descendants founded the great Median empire they founded the city of Hamedan, capital of the Medes. Medes and is one of the Aryan tribes. The Hittites also understood from the Indo-European tribes had previously Anatolia
goran21715 9 months ago
The most pure Aryans of ancient history was Vedic Aryans of India and Asura Aryans of Persia and Medes.
Both are waring Aryan family.
All others are expansion of these groups further into Armenia and Europe.
Saraswathiputra 9 months ago
goran21715 ,you are dumb ass!
Good story telling and it is your guess but not true.Where is Aryan Invasion dear.All very recent archeology and genetics debunked Aryan Invasion theory.Read,Vedic texts which clearly give complete details of Aryans.
Aryans are origin in dried Saraswathi basin of North India.Aryans have tow family,one was Suras or Vedic Aryans,other was Asura which include Persians and Medes.
Ask me,I will give complete details on Aryans.
Saraswathiputra 9 months ago
@Saraswathiputra It's not the story she discovered modern by archaeologists Russians where he discovered residual city Aryan and wagon mythical Aryans and the skeleton of a horse where they were renowned for his education and this site in Central Asia and it migrated at the end of the Bronze Age to the Valley of Hindus and to Iran and any If you read the history of the Hittites valuable Andol it refers to the unrest and the reason for the fall of the Hittite empire
goran21715 9 months ago
@Saraswathiputra It's not the story she discovered modern by archaeologists Russians where he discovered residual city Aryan and wagon mythical Aryans and the skeleton of a horse where they were renowned for his education and this site in Central Asia and it migrated at the end of the Bronze Age to the Valley of Hindus and to Iran and any If you read the history of the Hittites valuable Andol it refers to the unrest and the reason for the fall of the Hittite empire this l meanted l wish more
goran21715 9 months ago
@Saraswathiputra after the fall of hittites empire and migration of Aryans to Anatolia with the Hittites are manninian(Aryans) keep track were in conflict with the Assyrians and the capture of their leader and banished to the country Alachor and after the liberation of families united with the Medes in 814 BC where it was later Balmidiin who were able to In 612 BC Astela the capital of the Assyrian empire and the fall of Nineveh and they
ruled all middeast and all andulia too
goran21715 9 months ago
@Saraswathiputra There was no ARYAN INVASION STOP TELLING LIES ARYA VARTA spread from EUROPE TO CENTRAL ASIA almost all of whats now south Asia. Stop bullshit Aryan invasion colonial lie. Dravidians were the conquerors of India thats why Puranic Hindus worship Black GOD MAIN GOD KRISHNA. KRUNVANTI VISHVAM ARYAM. WORLD IS THE ABODE OF ARYANS.
mishrik 9 months ago
Shapes the Arabic Language in the third century AD that Arabs belong to the semite family who descended from Hsbp Ethiopia,but not to the people of Mesopotamia who the people of the Zagros,which belongs to the family of Iran and the Arabs entered Mesopotamia during the invasions of the Islamic era age where he had founded two colonies is Kufa Alerp on the ruins of the city of Basra and the Christian promise was destroyed by the city north of Basra and present both on the western edge mesopotamia
goran21715 9 months ago
@goran21715 It's not the story she discovered modern by archaeologists Russians where he discovered residual city Aryan and wagon mythical Aryans and the skeleton of a horse where they were renowned for his education and this site in Central Asia and it migrated at the end of the Bronze Age to the Valley of Hindus and to Iran and any If you read the history of the Hittites valuable Andol it refers to the unrest and the reason for the fall of the Hittite empire.these i meanted if have other wise
goran21715 9 months ago
@goran21715 Its true Central Asia was part of the Aryan Abode the russians u are reffereing to have found evidence in the deserts of turkmenistan. You are absolutely right. Durepanya the arab moslem & saraswatiputra the black dravidian want to bullshit their grouse on Utube.
mishrik 9 months ago
Drvidan not Aryans but they are Negroes. They came to India from East Africa keep track said there were three groups of 1 set the Tibetan Plateau (the Mongols & Korean & Chinese & Indians in the Americas) 2 Group Plateau of Ethiopia (Semitic&Egyptian &Nubian&Africans) 3 Group endo-European (Plateau Zagros& Iran Caucasus & Europeans mean Zagros he Mesopotamia were descended of the population of zagros, as well as (hurrian and hittits ,gutes and kassits, elimits) ancient peoples persians and medes
goran21715 9 months ago
Aryans in their Central Asia at the end of the third millennium and the beginning of the second millennium have migrated due to drought and drought valuable 3 migrations key1to Iran and Afghanistan, where the Persians and Medes 2to eastern Iran,where sythyan 3to the Valley of Hindus and their doctrine of Aryan Mathra and from the development of this doctrine in the hands of the Medes to the Zoroastrian In the valley of Hindus to Buddhism &Hinduism.Where the newly discovered location of the city
goran21715 9 months ago
Durepanya,I respect your politeness.Whatever country mishrik belongs is not the matter,but definitely he is a dumb ass!
Saraswathiputra 9 months ago
mishrik,you are an dumb ass!
So,you are telling your stories.Moron!!
I challenge you that I can prove here that you are dumb ass!
If possible you can refute my details!!
I will teach you a lesson!
Puranic Hindus were different and Vedic Hindus were different.Is it?
You mean to say those Sanskrit written Puranas are not of Aryans,which means that you say those Sanskrit itself is not Aryans.Is it?
Get a life!
Saraswathiputra 9 months ago
@Saraswathiputra YES I STAND BY WHAT I HAVE WRITTEN. YOU WROTE IN ENGLISH WILL THAT MAKE YOU BRITISH? Dravidians know sanskrit & puranas are the willy bullshit work of black bramhins(what evr skin color), PURANAS ARE DIFFERENT VEDAS ARE DIFFERENT. PURANAS ARE THERE IN PLENTY IN ALL LANGUAGES. Which INDOLOGY COURSE HAVE YOU DONE from ASI?
mishrik 9 months ago
Durepanya,you are trying to show that you know many things.But,you are still know many recent details and should update your knowledge!
As per modern genetic study and archeology Vedic Aryans are the the founders of the all civilization which include Indus, Sumerian and Egyptian.
Those Asura Aryans(Persians) just off-shoot!
I can send all records of experts and archeology, genetics,if you can challenge me,you can!!
Saraswathiputra 9 months ago
@Saraswathiputra Yes Sumerian is an ancient civilization till recent discovery since Aryans were nomadic. In Aryan history there is mention of cities & civilization close to the seas. So its a moot point to see who came first the chicken or the egg. Puranic hindus are the least civilized people who finished of the Vedic Aryans who are the present people of India and follow Krishna(Black Man all powerful supreme God) hinduism.
mishrik 9 months ago
@mishrik Sumerians not race,the High, but they are residents of the Golan Zagros (I mean node Zagros) came down gradually from north to south, and the first witness is the village of Jarmo 7000bc and Nuzi more than 3000 and then Tel fakhar north of Samarra, and so on.To prove that Saddam was close studies Sumerian because it is scientists found To the fact that they are not Semites.In the middle of the third millennium in 2400bc appeared to any invasions Semitic tribes of Akkadians and Assyrians
goran21715 9 months ago
@Saraswathiputra I don't try to show or challenge anybody! I just said that sumerians were semitic and that guy mishric jumped on my head that i love Osama bin Laden! Isn't that so pathetic?
Durepanya 9 months ago
@Durepanya Sumerians not race,the High,but they are residents of the Golan Zagros (I mean node Zagros) came down gradually from north to south, and the first witness is the village of Jarmo 7000 and Nuzi more than 3000 and then Tel fakhar north of Samarra, and so on.To prove that Saddam was close studies Sumerian because it is scientists found To the fact that they are not Semites.In the middle of the third millennium in 2400 bc appeared to any invasions Semitic tribes of Akkadians and Assyryian
goran21715 9 months ago
@Durepanya @mishrik What is this fallacy of the Egyptians and the Phoenicians, the Canaanites, and Mesopotamia and other ancient peoples not the Arabs, the sense of national security. : Arabs are Semitic folks. Arabic such as language that appeared in the third century AD, and challenged you all the historians to prove the opposite. And ask why the government offices in Persian until the reign of the Umayyad (Abdul Malik bin Marwan). You can not understand that 1% of any of these languagesand
goran21715 9 months ago
zarathrustra was a true prophet of GOD zoroastrinism reveals GOD as he truly is a GOD of reason and logic not some capricious tyrant.
doctorw2 10 months ago 2
It is incredibly old yet so advanced in its wisdom and understanding. We have a lot to be grateful to it, Christians and Hebrews alike.
fullfist 10 months ago
ARABIC IS AN AFRICAN LANGUAGE THAT NEEDS TO BE THROWN OUT OF ASIA.
ARAB LANDS HAVE TO BE RE CONQUERED. EUROPEANS HAVE TO THROW OUT THE TURKS. Turks are rodents arabs are pigs.
mishrik 1 year ago
@mishrik Arab it`s a semitic language. It`s as old as aryans. And it was spoken in majority in middle east, Mesopotamia, Palestine, Phoenicia. In Africa, the Egyptians. Just stop these low-minded comments(from what i see you have 2 thumb up perhaps from others 2 low-minded), you speak as a person with a huge missunderstanding of history. You destroyed the meaning of this clip. Blow your snot elsewhere! Stay away from Youtube
Durepanya 11 months ago
@Durepanya Aryans are ancient Arabs are Old. See thats the difference! Arabic is an Afro asian Language coming from Africa through Black terrorists that destroyed the world and are still doing the same even now. Death to Arab Pigs and Turkish rats. This Clip is about the great Zaruthustra now dont say he is an african Arab. Osama is an Arab. He is there on You tube and I just checked you are his biggest FAN.
mishrik 10 months ago
@mishrik How did u deduced that i`m his greatest fan? Seriously man, you make me laugh. Too bad you should respect me and my oppinion as i respect your nice country.
Durepanya 10 months ago
@Durepanya I dont respect Osama the terrorist do You. I respect Zaruthushtra Do You?
Islam is Terrorism. The only purpose of ISlam is destruction and enslaving the Non Arab World. Muhammed was a Black skinned MEccan like the sudaneese Janjaweed. Your ancestors. Poor Allah does not have a translator as he or she can understand only Arabic, Arabic Sucks. The language is like a pig fart!
mishrik 10 months ago
@mishrik Ohh...someone's head is stuck in dark ages. Dude, i'm european, i come from a country wich it's folklore myths derives from mazdeist doctrines so next time just think that on youtube there are peoples and peoples. ;)
Durepanya 10 months ago
@Durepanya And that some one are the Arabs and his supporters like Osama and u. Who want to marry kids and be pedophiles. Blow up ancient budhhas bomb people in Asia, europe and USA. Practise discrimination and impose JAziya./ Jadhiya on non Arab PEOPLES. Janjaweed are the scum the very race of the once true MEccans.
mishrik 9 months ago
@mishrik DUUUUUDE where did i said that i support criminal regimes??? Just point me the fucking sentence from wich results that i support Osama in wich by the way i don't even believe ! You fucking make me laughing. Show me a picture with you i bet you look arabic/semitic. xD Oh, and by the way if you read some history zoroastrians destroyed some christian churchs once but should i blame Zarathustras for that?? NO! I blame humans! teachings of all religions are good but the problem are humans!
Durepanya 9 months ago
@Durepanya "Arab it`s a semitic language. It`s as old as aryans. And it was spoken in majority in middle east, Mesopotamia, Palestine, Phoenicia. In Africa, the Egyptians." This is what you wrote praising Arabs the black african hordes of Muhammed & his gang of pedophiles. Aryans are the most ancient, advanced culture. Black Arabs are desert lizards with poison. Arabic was nubian & meccan language that spread through swords cutting necks of that didnot ISLAM(SUBMIT) & accepting Arab god Allah.
mishrik 9 months ago
@mishrik And that points that i support Osama?? That non-existent terorist? Kid, seriously, you got to start reading some books, i don't wanna harm your...intelect with my replies it sims that you're brain has lot of oil more than Iran does.
indo-europeans(aryans) are not the first civ. in history, the first civ is Sumer. Nationalism doesn't have any place in scientific areea, don't mix you're personal feelings into historical issues.
You only point us a poor nationalism next time be smarter.BYE
Durepanya 9 months ago
@Durepanya Who said European civilization is the OLDEST? Eur -Asia is the lands of Ancient civilizations and the Aryan contribution is Great!! The only other great civilisations were in Americas and Egypt the Maghreb parts and not the black african sub saharan countries that exist now. I can understand your feet is slippery due to all the oil in the Arab lands. I said Arabs had no civilization & are desert lizards in culture. They destroyed culture itself with their ISlam (sumbission).
mishrik 9 months ago
Sorry all for filling up this page with replies to that dumbkopf mishric.
From Mazdeist thinking the first human rights been created!
The west media must end mocking persian civ by bombarding us with informations about greeks. Ok, greeks are one of the greatest civilizations no doubt but peoples are portraying Greeks as the symbol of justice and freedom with all that was a slave society and the Persians as the symbol of injustice and slavery but were having the first human rights. Peace !
Durepanya 9 months ago
@Durepanya What is this fallacy of the Egyptians and the Phoenicians, the Canaanites, and Mesopotamia and other ancient peoples not the Arabs, the sense of national security. : Arabs are Semitic folks. Arabic such as language that appeared in the third century AD, and challenged you all the historians to prove the opposite. And ask why the government offices in Persian until the reign of the Umayyad (Abdul Malik bin Marwan). You can not understand that 1% of any of these languagesand where t
goran21715 9 months ago
@goran21715 Man, i don't understand your point thus i just wanna end discussion telling you that i didn't wanted to start an entire debate here regarding arabs, i was just pissed off by that medieval mind of mishric. And i`m not a historian even if i`m first year at history faculty. I started to hate history faculty and debates with amateurs(like me and you all here) because of the peoples who mix up they're personal frustration and dreams with history issues.
Durepanya 9 months ago
@mishrik What is this fallacy of the Egyptians and the Phoenicians, the Canaanites, and Mesopotamia and other ancient peoples not the Arabs, the sense of national security. : Arabs are Semitic folks. Arabic such as language that appeared in the third century AD, and challenged you all the historians to prove the opposite. And ask why the government offices in Persian until the reign of the Umayyad (Abdul Malik bin Marwan). You can not understand that 1% of any of these languagesand where the
goran21715 9 months ago
If Zoroaster had not been born, Christianity would have never existed.
And by simple observation and comparisson, I can say that most of the Jewish holidays are based in Old Persian-Mazdeist traditions-festivities(Passavah-No Rouz, Hanukkah-Yalda), taking on account that the Arian Persian civilization is much older than the Jewish-Cannanite one.
mirarostodo 1 year ago 4
@mirarostodo
Yes you are right, but it is the Aryan Persian civilization, not the Arian Persian civilization.
Arianism is an extinct sect of Christianity, lol!!! look it up
Jhaub420 1 year ago
@Jhaub420 Yes, thank you for the correction. Semantics... : )
mirarostodo 1 year ago
Beautiful-- Time the world The WEST today would read this-Many in the West associate Iran ,Persia with Islam -
Redmaple2008 1 year ago
1:32 "GET ON WITH IT"
ParadoxEarth 1 year ago
spitaman spitaman, does whateva a spita can!
777jordan 1 year ago
Zoroastrianism is so much more as an religion.
Zoroastrianism is the way of wisdom...
carolusism 1 year ago
Zerdusht a great Kurdish man that influenced the minds of Moses, Jesus and Mohammed!!!! And changed the world forever!!!!
csat35 1 year ago