My Androgyne Theory

[JulietFitzie84]

I just discovered the word androgyne a couple days ago- so I don't really use it to describe myself - but the way I've explained my situation to people is I tell them I'm fine living with the female body I have right now, yet if I magically woke up tomorrow morning with a male body I'd be fine living that way too.

[JulietFitzie84]

3:54 made me laugh out loud :-D

[Shadeleaves]

I think I may be androgyne, not completely transgender. I feel somewhat comfortable being a female physically, but I can't wear girl's clothes or have a male talk to me anymore than a friend without being disgusted.

[hoochis]

lol, discharge. it made me think of ejaculation.

[TheCoffeeCreature]

What is the difference between androgyne and androgyny?

[albuorkka]

@TheCoffeeCreature Androgyne is an androgynous person and androgyny is the state of being androgynous

[justanotherjunkaddy]

Thanks for putting your thoughts into words, I do think you're onto something. I was born female, but I've always known I wasn't completely female inside my head. Three years ago, I found Second Life, an online community where it was safe to really explore my sexuality. I tried a female avatar and a male avatar, and neither quite felt right. I finally created an avatar that doesn't really look male or female, and I finally feel like it's right.

[Orione]

That makes utter sense! Thank you for putting it into words.

[davfritz]

pretty right in my opinion

[zevonianfish]

I'm really happy I found this video -- this puts into words much of what I've been feeling. I sort of flip back and forth between feeling male and female, but can't seem to coherently explain it to anyone I'm close to. It's so good to know there are many others like me, and a reason for how I feel.

[MoonlitForest]

Pica, I'm also grateful for this video. Prior to my research, I was "just a little bit lost" as you put it. I didn't know how to describe myself other than having a lack of identification with the female gender. The question that would come after that would be, "So, you identify as a male?" And to that I'd respond, "....No. Not quite." Glad to know other androgynes who are aware of their state exist!

[bodychaos]

Thank you so much for this! I'm an andogyne, too. And well, your theory is great! ;-)

[madcadaver]

I'm one too, but I can merely aspire towards androgyny. A few very solid things are holding me back from it, sadly. :( Thanks for making this video!

[mistresspav]

like your videos style and thoughts, glad to have found you, definetely subscribed :P

[orlando098]

- but I think the same (with the "eye" sound) plus a soft "g" (as in giraffe) is the way it has usually been pronounced. You seem to imply it has only just been invented, like terms like "intergendered" "genderqueer" or "genderfluid" but it's been around centuries. You also hear the soft "g"in, e.g. mysogynist.

[orlando098]

Hello. well done publicising the fact there is a middle ground to the gender spectrum. re. pronunciation - I suggest you should not say andru-djun, like in this video, as that sounds like "androgen", which is a male hormone. Technically I think saying andru-gh-eye-n (hard "g"like in "green") - like a heard you do in some other vids - is probably logical, as there is a hard "g" in some other words like gynaecologist

[peaceandloveMJ]

@orlando098 this is a latin word; don't try to pronounce it as in English! Did u hear of MEA CULPA or of VICE-VERSA? they r from latin language, but english ppl pronounce them in an english style and that's totally wrong!

[tartinovich9]

je suis androgyne : homme et femme à la fois : les deux en juxtaposition

[picaVpica]

nice to know :)

[zenithian15]

Thank you SOOOOO much for posting your theory! I have only recently come to the conclusion that I am an androgyne and I find your statements to be in line with my own understanding of androgyne experience. Like you, I hope that one day the term will become common and acceptable so that more androgynes can feel comfortable in their own skins. Once again, thank you!

[xxNick78xx]

there's no such thing as androgynes.

[zenithian15]

Perhaps that's true (if we consider androgyny to be an unattainable ideal), but does that really prevent any person form identifying as one?

[picaVpica]

androgyny is an unattainable thing, but an androgyne is a different thing to being androgynous.

[spateeight]

big juicy bollochs

[xxNick78xx]

watch your mouth

[cheeseit126]

i liek you^^

[spateeight]

BIG FLOPPY WILLYS.

[xxNick78xx]

i beg your pardon?

[MadonnasBigDick]

As another self-identified androgyne, thanks for making this.

[melveriok]

WOW COOL BOOTS

[xxNick78xx]

I'm sorry for what I said. I was in a bad mood. I didn't mean it.

[xxNick78xx]

oink oink

since when do pigs know how to work a vidoe camera?

[extrinsicessence]

I watched this video and was compelled to say thank you for your insightful video. I have long thought that the view held by society have catergorized what most people are led to believe and accept.

[RevSpike]

For some, appearance is important. For myself it's less true.

Some feel they're born male but should've been born female. For myself, I don't feel like "I am a male" OR "I must be female".

I feel my plate is open, I don't have to have just one or the other, or any carefully watched-over, regulated amount of each.

My clothes don't matter to me, just as long as I'm comfortable.

We each make our own choices. Shouldn't blame others for bad choices and should thank ourselves for our successes

[picaVpica]

Appearance is a funny thing, cos it's what people get. And it's where their understanding of you starts, but it's something that can be manipulated.

[RevSpike]

We CAN control our own appearance, but we can't control other's responses to it.

There's never been and never will be someone who everyone "gets" appearance or other-wise, despite mass-media portrayals that if we only dress the right way that everyone will "get" us, and accept us. Not true.

Most people go "knee-jerk reaction" on anything - just spitting out their first insensitive connection rather than thinking. Especially considering that most people will remain immature in that regard.

[greneve]

I've had thoughts like this about myself for ages but the word 'androgyne' just never popped up to me.. I always thought of androgyny as just a fashion statement.

[picaVpica]

androgyny is...androgyne isn't. Perhaps, it gets a bit confusing.

[cactus57]

Same kinda thing happened with me. I suddenly realised that i simpley wasnt male, then went into shock thinking "oh jeez, i must be a girl!" but then realised that it didnt match up either!

Somehow i discovered androgyny, and went from there. The whole thing of gender simply isnt black or white, its a huge frikkin colour spectrum!

[weegerri1sm]

I suppose I'm kind of lucky.. I decided long ago not to care what people thought of me so I express my androgyny as I see fit.

I dress as I see fit and if people don't like it they don't have to look!

I guess, being an androgyne I just decided that I couldn't afford to care what society thought and that it was just healthier to be myself.

[picaVpica]

i read what you are saying, but is that really about being an androgyne? Is that really about internal feelings or is it just a about clothes?

[weegerri1sm]

It is totally about internal feelings.

The same feelings that drive a male to female transexual to express themselves as a woman drive me to express my internal feelings as an androgyne by my appearance. It's more than just clothes.. I look very androgynous and enhance that in many ways.

I always identified as androgyne even as a child I knew I was different.

I need to express who I am inside. Often the clothes we wear and the way we appear is a true reflection of who we are inside.

[picaVpica]

well, when i can afford to go around dressed as a dandy highwayman :)

[weegerri1sm]

Heheh, cool! :)

I actually have the support of a gender specialist, one of the leading in the UK actually, who has kinda put the official stamp on it! :)

I suppose it's different things to different people. I am in a group of androgynes in Scotland, most of whom, like myself, actually look very androgynous.

I think it might be easier for society to accept that way too.. it's hard to get UK mainstream society to accept something which isn't tangable.

[picaVpica]

too true, it is not in our culture to listen to ideas that work just as ideas.

[juliecranford]

I am beginning to think that perhaps I fit this theory of androgynes that you have presented. I hate people who are "too" masculine or "too" feminine. I want to have the good of both. I want to be a good, balanced person. And I also do not want to have boobs. I don't particularly care about the crotch area.

[NaNaa707]

I was thinking, I'm a girl, but I've been wondering, if it would be best for me to be a boy? I don't like surgerys(sp?) But I would like to get my boobs away... Somewhat what I would call androgyne. But I still like guys, who look like girls(?!)

[malyenkijprints]

I enjoy this theory. I also enjoyed the little images.

[johnyjordan]

Right on. I'm an androgyne and I've struggled with my identity my entire life until just recently. I'm a culmination of both genders and am attracted to female-bodied androgynes. Throughout my life, I've had the misfortune of falling for lesbians (because they were physically androgynous and shared many of the characteristics/personality traits.) Anyways, thanks for putting this video out there. I think in the years to come, this will be better understood. This is just the beginning.

[wingedraksha]

Same here.

[nicintights]

Really thought-provoking, well done! I'll have to go and meditate on that one. AS you say there are loads of us around who don't realise we're androgynes -0 it took me long enough to get there, but now I feel it's a great state to be in. Don't even need an operation cos I am what I am already.

I hate bloody boots :-( - everywhere you look in Transgenderland, there they are. I'd rather go barefoot, thanks!

[TheIceLynx]

Wonderful theory. I once had the idea that perhaps I was a transsexual or just an overly feminine gay guy, and then I found out about androgynes, and everything just clicked for me, and your video made sense to me. I enjoyed your illustrations as well. lol.

Hot boots, by the way.

[RobotFog]

Hi, I think you've done a great job putting your ideas together. I like the boots too. You will not recognize my username, but then again, it doesn't recognize you either.

[taineyah]

Interesting theory. It's got things in common with my theory. My personal theory about transgenderism in general is less hormonal and more has to do with "disappearing twin syndrome." Perhaps I should dress up and look decent for once and post a response.

[picaVpica]

It's not as popular as it was a few years ago. I've always been a fan of it, it's more that it serves as a good way of thinking about androgynes.

[dysperdis]

Nice boots :)

Interesting theory. I'll have to do some research on the "deep grammar" theory before I can really comment on your variation.