Obama's Muslim speech and US/Islam relations

[GrandArchitect3D]

everything is based on occultism.

[tenebroust]

@GrandArchitect3D All politics and religion are rooted in it. Even Jesus said to his disciples that some secrets were for them only.

[GodBlesstheWorld2008]

They should ban all religions.  It is used to divide and conquer.

[GodBlesstheWorld2008]

Religion has NO place in politics. It should be banned period! The world needs to be relieved from all these ignorant dogmas... The world can never be in harmony as all these different religions are used as a catalyst for war (divide and conquer).

[iknewitalready]

USA invade Muslim countries because ______________________________­__'

a. FREEDOM (liberating Muslims in Muslim countries)

b. Human Rights

c. Democracy

d. OIL

the correct answer is OIL

it's the OIL stupid!

[iknewitalready]

Muslim women are so oppressed in their Muslim countries, for Muslims elect women as leaders of their respective countries.

Sheikh Hasina Wazed - Current Prime Minister of Bangladesh (muslim country)

Megawati Sukarnoputri - Former President of Indonesia

Benazir Bhutto - Former Prime Minister of Pakistan

How many women president are there in a Christian and FREE country like USA?

Name a woman President of US of America.

[banging2009]

shit  man and shit video

More fool who knows nothing and I think he has a problem in the head

[tomahack1]

Great video, intelligent debate.

[ellesfah]

Great Video.....

[pukton4]

Thank you sir

[EartherZero]

The world needs "royalty" like it needs an "untouchable" cast. How can we justify supporting a country that maintains either? Royalty, the divine right of kings, is tied directly to the hokum of religion as you point out. They draw their authority from the mythical authority of god. The whole "god's people" hokum concerning Israel is another example of this manipulative use of fear and ignorance.

[tenebroust]

Judaism's own books say that the land of Canaan was in the possession of others before their God, Yahweh, told them to go and conquer it. In that mythology they are entitled to the land by divine right. If a guy claims to hear the voice of God which tells him to go out and kill people, or to take something that doesn't belong to him, who is anyone to judge that he is in error? It's exactly what happened in the Bible.

[MoonSpyStudios]

Well Said Ted,,

Bill

[tenebroust]

I almost forgot the Islamic role in murder and death.

[tenebroust]

Certainly.

[reptilexcq]

psycho

[He101A]

Religions are all spiritually bankrupt. In all religions there is a hierarchy, and they are concerned about money, and positions of power. You can prey directly to God without going to a Mosque, a church, a cathedral, a monastery, synagogue, or a temple.

[MihiLibertas]

Beyond madness.

[CynNichol]

Look at American streets. Only rarely do we see riots/violence... occasionally black Muslims stir things up. That is what Islam will mean. Throughout the world where there is Islam there is turmoil, studies show the more Muslims the more turmoil. Over 40,000 Africans (most if not all Muslim or cults based in it) were allowed to immigrate to the US in one month alone... extrapolate... this is what Obama brings to the table.

His own militia.

First the Jews, then the infidels.

Pick your battle.

[tenebroust]

Islam has a stranglehold on the politics of countries it is in.

[CynNichol]

tenebroust, agree.

I don't think though that this is a matter of letting religion influence our politics. Islam is more than a religion... it is a culture, government, legal & financial system... an ideology... that is at odds with our own. Its tenets include conquest & submission of non-Muslims. If Israel disappeared tomorrow, Islam's jihad against the West would continue. Its not about religion, it's about power. Islamization of the US needs to be stopped now before we fall to it like the EU.

[tenebroust]

All religions are more than just religions. The so-called religious right in this country seeks to make this country a theocracy. Islam is more militant at this point in history, but Rome had it's day in the spotlight as well.

[CynNichol]

tenebroust, disagree. This kind of denial will not lead to any kind of future that you would like. Fortunately millions of people in the US are working on this. Hopefully while you have the freedom to preach your moral equivalism & Jew hate, others will protect our Constitution. What you call 'objective' sounds to me like naive academe brainwashing. Perhaps, the reason the situation seems like 'madness' to you is because your ideas are off base... surely you sense it?

[tenebroust]

Surely you would not contend that Christianity is "just" a religion? Or Judaism is "just" a religion. What am I denying? I'm totally opposed to any Islamization of the US as you call it, as I am opposed to the religious right doing the same. I also oppose Zionist influence in this country. Hating Zionism is not hating Jews.

[CynNichol]

tenebroust, you are denying the need to stop the moral equivalency in discussing ideologies.

College is the time for that (sadly), & as a result we have people who don't know the difference between multiculturalism & the melting pot; and who cannot distinguish the value of our culture over that of Islam.

You are picking a battle against Israel that is of no use in addressing the Islamic movement in this country... as a matter of fact, the opposite, you are attacking an ally.

[tenebroust]

Ideologies in my opinion are all the same. Regardless of what religion you are speaking of. They are all based upon myths. That's my opinion. If you are a believer I support your right to do so. I value my culture and don't want it destroyed by anyone. Zionism is part of the problem, and it still would be a problem if there was no Islam. Islamic inroads into our country and culture are definitely things to be concerned about, but to deny the ill influence of other religions is foolish.

[CynNichol]

tenebroust, religion plays a very valuable role in society, it addresses matters of the spirit. It's not going away.

Why don't you forget the myths, & live in today? Islamic leaders care about power, but use the myths only for propaganda. Why do you buy into this?

You put words in my mouth... I didn't deny the influence of other religions. I said, pick your battles. That means pick your allies ETC. Tear down Israel... what sense in that? Ignoring the reality of religion & politics... what sense?

[tenebroust]

An equally valid question is to ask why must the US blindly support Israel? You want me to forget the myths and then use those same myths to demonstrate how Islam uses them to control people. That is certainly true. Israel does the same thing when it says that God gave the land to them. I don't buy into ANY propaganda, why do you?

[CynNichol]

tenebroust, you can ask questions until kingdom come. You're putting words in my mouth again... I don't want you to use myths for anything, & I don't care about the myths. I want you to look at the situation today. The Muslim leaders have told us that they intend to 'kill the Jews' & 'destroy the West'. What part of that don't you understand? I have watched enough speeches by Muslim leaders to know it's not propaganda.

[tenebroust]

I'm not disagreeing with you. If the leaders of Islam attack the US then they need to be attacked in kind. What concern is it to the US if Israel is destroyed, really? Are they such a bulwark against Islamic expansion which in itself is an imminent threat to the US?

[CynNichol]

tenebroust, there were 17 major attacks against the US before 911, & there have been over a thousand attacks against the West since. If reported at all, the msm protects Islam by not mentioning 'Muslim'.

The Jews are a bulwark... they are fighting for their lives, & see through the Islamic propaganda. Americans are just waking up, Jews are already fighting it. Also they're the canaries in the mine... how go the Jews, so go the rest of us infidels.

Israel is a strategic ally in the Mid East.

[Metouka2009]

he is just another nazi moron. just the way he talks u can feel hes hate,

[K1LLJ3W5]

Judaism and Christianity are diametrically opposed to each other. Judeo-Christianity is a fucking concocted religion created by fucking jews who are NOT semitic in any way. It's a great fucking deception of this present age and most Christians have fallen for it.. True Christian ethics is what the founding fathers supported. Not to get involved in foreign affairs, etc. Corporate Judeo Christian theology is doctrine by devils...

[bgrim2008]

"True Christian ethics is what the founding fathers supported." -K1LLJ3W5

Like the mistreatment of Non-White People on the basis of color.

"Native Americans" Genocide.

American Slavery.

Pre Civil Rights era where "Niggers" practically had no fucking rights whatsoever...Hell not even chained-to-the-radiator-White Women had no fucking rights for a while (Fearing that they'd run off with a Black guy LOL).

If those are "TRUE" "Christian Ethics" then Christians are no better than "Terrorist".

[tenebroust]

Indeed. Christianity over the years has killed and raped and slaughtered more people than any other group EVER.

[DittoGlen]

I believe that is a commonly repeated atheist fable.

A little research will prove that out.

Communism, Nazism, and Fascism is the hands-down winner in in the arts of war, destruction, and mass murder...

Note: I do not defend the non-Christian christians who purpetrated atrocities of the past...

†

[tenebroust]

Communism, fascism etc, they did kill a lot but the combined crusades, the inquisition and conquests of Christian Rome are certainly very high in number.

[DittoGlen]

I would say not "incredibly" high, relatively speaking, but I'm sure you will research these numbers yourself, for the truth of the matter....

†

[tenebroust]

It's all astro-theology. Judaism is a Saturnian religion that also worshiped the moon. Yahweh was a tribal god. Islam is the same a Lunar cult. Christianity is a real synchretism of astrotheology. newer religions build upon those that came before thus "legitimacy" is gained by the new because it incorporates the old. But it is all myth.

[PASMdude]

If Zionist did not invent terrorism they did their best to perfect it. Groups like the Irgun were committing terrorism before Israel was a state. Zionist committed the first ever hijacking and downing of commercial airliners in history.

[tenebroust]

Zionist terror groups killed Jews to try and get more sympathy for the cause of the Israeli state. They are true horrors.

[950horsepower]

Oh, yes sir, it's obvious as all hell, but when I see a Die-Tech commercial, or Join the Army commericial, I can't just sit through it, I am compelled to say this is pure bushette, out loud, just to deprogram myself. I know it's a stinking little point, but I think "we" need to consciously separate ourselves from them, and never forget, or let it slide.

I also make vomiting noises in the theater when I see Tom Cruse, or Arnold. The FOX channels are blocked on my TV.

[tenebroust]

Good, mind control has a way of creeping in if you don't actively oppose it.

[950horsepower]

3:40 / 7:20

When we say "we", it means the federal government , which no longer represents us, if us is the people of this country. So, there is no we, there's only us and them. It was always that way, the only thing that has changed is that now it's clear. By abandoning the constitution, they became an enemy of the state by undermining the union.

[tenebroust]

I thought that was obvious, but perhaps it needs to be made explicit. Yes, "we" in that context means the US government administration and the secret services.

[spinalfluidontap]

That is just minor semantics. We all do it.;-) lol

[bman462]

sanity will never die

[tenebroust]

I hope.

[950horsepower]

Needs to be born first.

[lloydmer]

i'm burnt out on religion. whenever someone says America is a "Christian nation", i want to throw up. by attempting put a religious label on us (or any nation for that matter), it excludes everyone who does not practice that particular religion. since a lot of wars seem to be started in the name of religion (or veiled in some type of "crusades"), it just turns me off even more.

[tenebroust]

Yeah, war and religion have gone hand in hand for millenia.

[spinalfluidontap]

They don't call it Judeo-Christian for nothing. The double speak of the Jewish athiests like Bill Mahar I find disturbing. It is Jewish land because God said so, but huge amounts of Jews are athiest. Jewdaism is as much a culture as it is a religion. And must the whole world do as Israel says out of some kind of percieved guilt over the Holocaust? I don't say fuck the jew, but I do say fuck Israel. Like it is not like Muslim countries hate America. They just hate your fucking foreign policy.

[tenebroust]

Yes, I agree with you.

[rikestard]

My favorite story is Horus of Egypt:}

[tenebroust]

Great stories all, the truth of the myths are grand indeed.

[rikestard]

Dude the amazing thing is is that when I tell good god fearing christians about Horus and the exact similarities between his story and the story of Jesus I will get no response. They just stare and blink, "I don't get what you mean" lol and thats when I stop talking to them alltogeather, their minds are broken and I don't have the time or patience to fix them.

[tenebroust]

It's pretty useless. Whatever people want to believe is fine by me. If a religious belief works for you then that's cool by me, just leave me out of it.

[rikestard]

Yea but you would just figure that when people learn Santa or the Easter bunny is fake that they would stop believing it, but for some reason they can't let this lie/story go. Very sad imo and plus they do not leave you and I out of it, they love imposing their beliefs and bullshit laws on us. peace

[tenebroust]

That's the sad fact.

[taoistaoistao]

Ted, religions have been political orginizations either at or shortly after their inception. I must however point out that religous or spiritual instruction from Jesus, Mouhommad, Buddha, Moses, Lao Tzu, etc, etc. should not be diminished in their relivancy to the human condition and the "divine". It has been the politics of politics to assimilate themselves into religion and bastardize teachings of "holy" men into shrewdly angled "doctrines" to serve the political oligarchy . Historical Fact.

[tenebroust]

You're right but it also is the business, particularly of the "religious right" in this country to interfere with politics from a religious perspective. I have nothing against any system which works for YOU, but it is for you and not for forcing onto others through political action.

[taoistaoistao]

I agree. I think my point was that the two need space. One into the other, either way, just doesnt work well for anyone involved.

[tenebroust]

Yes, your point is well taken though as it can come from the other end as well.

[Z200a]

I thought you said you were going to talk about Obama's speech. But it was just a long rant about the usual stuff everyone knows about US foreign policy prior to the Obama administration. Not only was this video not about Obama's speech, it wasn't even about Obama's administration.

[tenebroust]

The speech was fluff and will do nothing to change perceptions. Obama's administration is continuing the policies of his predecessors.