I agree man. Debates should be two or more people working towards truth. You made some very good points. I used the word duty as a way to explain that wisdom is a gift.. in a determinist universe wisdom is not something you got.. it's something you were lucky to get. And all i'm saying is it's a powerfull gift that has a big sway on how good the world is. so if your wise.. what you do is very important. i used the word duty to change peoples mentality more than it's proper meaning.
@PaddyCuinne Yes; that's what I thought when I said we were probably saying the same thing in different terms. And man, about determinism, I've never gotten into a discussion about that that ended; it's a pretty big subject, albeit a fun one to look at. I think the complexity of pinning down whether we're responsible for our own actions comes from the fact that whether or not something is determined is relative to the system you're looking at.
I agree man. Debates should be two or more people working towards truth. You made some very good points. I used the word duty as a way to explain that wisdom is a gift.. in a determinist universe wisdom is not something you got.. it's something you were lucky to get. And all i'm saying is it's a powerfull gift that has a big sway on how good the world is. so if your wise.. what you do is very important. i used the word duty to change peoples mentality more than it's proper meaning.
PaddyCuinne 1 year ago
@PaddyCuinne Yes; that's what I thought when I said we were probably saying the same thing in different terms. And man, about determinism, I've never gotten into a discussion about that that ended; it's a pretty big subject, albeit a fun one to look at. I think the complexity of pinning down whether we're responsible for our own actions comes from the fact that whether or not something is determined is relative to the system you're looking at.
Yamikaiba123 1 year ago
Well i'm a hard determinist. But i still believe in morality. emotion, pain and pleasure still matter even if we are determined.
PaddyCuinne 1 year ago