This guy is wrong- the roman legionaries murdered the cataphracts- that's why they retreated. It was the amazing parthian horse archers that won the battle. Crassus didn't charge the archers either- he had his son take some cav and charge. This guy is describing a simplified and wrong version of the battle. Don't believe me? Read an account of the battle. Parthia would later be conquored by Rome as Crassus was hardly a general of note- definitely not a Caesar
@PatrickEngSU I'm pretty sure Persia didn't fall to Rome, They fell from the Parthian dynasty to Sassanid dynasty then to the evil arab that Islamifyed it :P
@PatrickEngSU The catapchracts maybe retreaded but managed to avert the forming of the defensive Roman triangle, that's why the archers decimated the legions.
Let me add one thing: Parthian=Pahlawan=Hero a Kurdish word. Middle Kurdistan was called Pahlawani (language of Heroes) and the southern parts of Great Kurdistan was called PAhlawa which means place of Pahla (Parthia). Still Zazaki-Gurani-Ahuramani-Laki-Fayli are called Pahlawani Kurdish groupe. Even Fayli Kurds in South Iraq are from the Parthian dystyny, the PArthian capital Madayin lies in SOuth Kurdistan.
@HungarianHistory Nonsense, read Xenophon's Cyrupaedia, or even Herodotus' records. Median king was Cyrus' maternal grandfather, Astyages, and once Cyrus the Great conquered the Median empire, he spared Astyages, whom earlier attempted to dispatch Cyrus when he was a child. Astyages was granted permission to live in peace and luxury in Cyrus' court until his death.
we made by media, not the aryans. Magyars or savars (royal hungarians) are from Subartu. Mitanni-Mada too, and the MADAS made by Media. Next came the aryans and occupied Media were born Persia, and the name of media was AGJEM. Savarans in Sassanide empire were we too, with our Emse princess turul Falcon symbol.
you aryans only thiefs we made by the human civilization as sumer, subar,elam. agglutinative languge is oldest on Eurasia! Paris Sorbonne university made exam which language saved the more old-common etimons from proto-language, aryan languges saved 5%, Türks saved 25% hungarians saved 68%! sumerians had only 55%
@HungarianHistory First of all this is not a battle ground, so hold ur horses.... be cool and have some respect, I don't recall anyone insulting ur ancestral lineage, or offending u, otherwise I'm going to have to block you along with ignoring ur comments. Second, I don't understand what you're saying, try and clear up ur arguments and grammar.
Actualy no. Cyrus Grandfather Astyages orderd his armys to quell Cyrus growing power and influence, but, Astyages was betrayed by his own general, who gave his allegance to Cyrus, they captured Astyages and his fate was unknown, historians believed him to be exiled, burned to death, or suicide.
It's pretty messed up how Surena was MURDERED by the very king he had successfully sworn to protect. He was threatened and jealous of Surena's success. Just goes to show how the Parthians weren't that different from the Romans in that they had scumbag aristocrats and bureaucrats who were willing to kill good people for their own benefit. Greedy scum are present in every civilization, I guess
Persia was not as powerful as Rome. Romans twice captured Ctesiphon (the Persian capital) and then went back to their land. Persia was never able to capture Constantinople, let alone Rome. Persia was a great empire to be sure, but not as great as Rome.
@refriaire I think it's a matter of opinion. Rome was not an empire yet at this time, but to be fair, this was not the Persian Empire of Cyrus and Darius either. That Empire was sure comparable to that of Rome, even greater in some respects because of their legacy of religious and cultural tolerance.
@refriaire You should know that If and when the Iranians wanted to they could remove any cesar ruling the trone at the moment.. Shapur 1 alone removed 3 Cesars and philip the arab too
just because they did not have a barbaric invasive mentality does not mean they could not conquer
@solo141984 No they could not just go in and remove any cesar at all plus invasive Is the wrong word, It was an empire and empire conquer and kill to become an empire
Rome sacked the parthian capital 3 times while the parthians never arrived anywhere near Rome.
Also, Rome lasted much longer than the Parthians... Truly, to prove the greatness of Persia (which is a certain thing) the Parthians are certainly not the best option instead go for the Achaemenid.
well actually, if i remember correctly, the romans never sacked the parthian capital Ctesiphon, it was during the time of the Sassanians much later.
and you are also wrong about rome lasting longer. sure, the eastern roman (byzantine) empire fell in the 15th century, but Iran still exists today. It is the longest continual civilization next to china.
and if you want to get technical, the Roman Empire was an entirely different government/nation compared to the republic
@zazenzach Trajan sacked Ctesiphon in 113 AD. Avidius Cassius sacked in 165 AD. Septimus severus sacked in 197 AD.
Your logic is complete flawed...The roman entity laid the foundation to the western world, it is culture still exists to date the same can be said about Iran but Iran got overrun by arabs and Islam so that its past culture is much less respect or applied when compared to Rome.
Your logic is Iran exists then so does Persia, well Italy exist therefore so does Rome (nonsense).
@lhd08 Well how about my logic? I say Persia exists along with Iran because my culture was not affected by those who occupied my country, theirs were affected by mine. Alexander conquered Iran and started worshipping Cyrus the great. Arabs even learned too cook when they went to Iran and Mongols fell in love with literature. We have presented many scientific fundamentals to the world, we have an incomparable poetry and we speak Persian language, not arabic, mongol, greek or any other.
alright well the logic is not so flawed, because even though Iran got overrun by Greeks, Arabs, Turks and Mongols its civilization absorbed all of those elements and survived, Persia is still persia, its language remains persian.
Rome did not lay the foundation to the western world alone, Greeks were essential , some will argue even more important. Rome got overran by germanic tribes and christianity, The roman civilization is gone just like those of babylon and sumer
@lhd08 i think you are dreaming.. first of all you should do your homework..but forget your Western philosophy and sources.. You are being fooled. First of all look at the publishers of human history..second modern scolars are already changing everything you are reading.. Horsemen culture is that of an iranian culture.. cataphracts too.. See Parthian shot and nisean horses
Orodes II rewarded Surena with an execution because he was jealous of him! Like the Romans, the Parthians had no qualms about stabbing each other in the back
This idiot says that there were thousands of Cataphract's (Armored Lancers) there were about 1000. The first charge of the Armored Lancers was repulsed easily. After that the Parthians used their 9000 mounted archers to tear the Romans apart. It was a resounding victory over a Roman army commanded by an incompetent General. Fifteen years later the Parthians encountered Publius Ventidius Bassus at the battle of Cyrrhestica and were crushed and Crown Prince Pacorus was captured and beheaded.
Jones is a very entertaining presenter but I almost always wonder about some of the things he says. Was Crassus really executed by having molten gold poured down his throat? That is a striking image but it seems more mythical than historical to me. Anyone know what likely happened?
@pablo4115 According to Axworthy (A history of Iran: Empire of the mind), Crassus was beheaded under direct orders of general Suren, his head was delivered to the Parthian king Orodes while he was listening to an actor playing Euripede's play "The Bacchae" in the court. Although Axworthy goes on saying even what the actor was singing when the head arrived, which makes it rather a theatrical retelling of the history. Nevertheless, it's a different take.
Yeah, that figures. Every time I watch one of his documentaries I find him very watchable but there are always a few things that sound like he's either naive or stretching the truth for the sake of a good yarn.
@pablo4115 That maybe true, but the big picture and the brute historical facts remain intact nevertheless. Details may have been altered by tellers, but the underlying facts of the battles and the outcome of those battles are not to be questioned.
@pablo4115 i thought he got stuffed with straw and dung? well after the whole mess with having to swallow gold or silver ether way crassus deserved it he was a greedy rapacious dick that robbed many of his fellow romans to enrich himself
Islam was a catastrophe to Persians, which not only destroyed it's civilization, but also remained in its blood like a disease till today, so not only it never gloried again, but since the entry of Islam it got weaker and weaker and morally/mentally got more and more backward to the petty full stage of death that is today.
@artagar No the Mongol conquests in the 13th century is the event that decimated Persian culture and population from which it never recovered. Islam contributed much during the middle ages to Persia in terms of arts and science. That's the reason why there's such a thing as the Islamic Golden Age for anyone who's studied Persia or Middle Asian history. The destruction that the Mongol wrought ended that period and ended Persia a native regional superpower to this day.
@Marduniya Iran at best is as much as a super power as Iraq was. They have no army. All they have bunch of thugs to suppress Iranian's people democratic movements. The Missile technology they have bought from North Korean, Chinese and Russians are all obsolete and have not strategical value, their tanks and fighter jets are what was purchased by Shah in 70s and belongs to junk yard. Field Marshal Mullah Khameni is the head of the armed forces (I wander which military school did he graduate!?)
@artagar You make several major mistake within your argument. First, you underestimate Iran's position within the region. We have defeated Israel through proxy, Iraq practically belongs to Iran, energy highways in Central Asia and Afghanistan (Herat is a part of Iran in all but name) practically belong to Iran, Shia rebels in Yemen are under Iranian influence and Hamas is under Iranian influence. These are the blue-prints to an empire, so please do not tell me we are on the same level as Iraq.
@artagar Our missile system has been greatly influenced by North Korea and our tanks and fighter jets are American. But what is more important is Iran's constant efforts to indigenously rebuild these equipments. Our missile program today far surpasses that of North Korea; we have even launched a satellite into space, a task accomplished only by few nations. The F-14 jet is almost 100% overhauled thanks to Iranian engineers.
@artagar All these attempts to indigenously create these weapons was due to the Iran-Iraq war. Thanks to the Shah's incompetence, Iran was left to rely upon other countries for military equipment and spare parts as we had practically no defense industry of our own.
No one said Iran is going to build F-22's and M1 Abrams, but these are the first step to become an independent nation.
I have no Idea why Iran and the USA are enemies except that our leaders seem to want it that way. I will always remember the demonstrations and in Tehran after 9/11 where the Saudi terrorists were condemned by the people and Ali Khamenei himself. Now Saudi Arabia wants the USA to attack Iran's nuclear reactors how absurd. The Saudis won't do it themselves because they are cowards. Why is my country supporting a diseased Monarchy against another Republic? The three letter word.
@Marduniya Iran was a super power before Islam they never were super power again and they never will be, unless they people of Iran succeed in establishing a secular democratic government in Iran. But Mullahs in Iran have for the first time tasted power and money, and they are willing to kill millions to stay in power. It is extremely difficult for Iranians to free themselves from these tugs.
@Marduniya I know Iran history very well. First Islam did not contribute to Golden Age. If Islam was a contributor to art and science, then we must have thousand of artist and scientist from the center of Islam, which was Mecca and Medina (Yatrab) can you find one single artist in the whole history of Islam in Mecca or Medina? I am sure not. The Golden Age of Islam happened during the secular Khalifs of Islam and as result of connecting cultures which already were very well civilized.
@artagar I am well aware the Islamic Golden Age was not a result of Arab "intelligence" (for lack of better word), but this discussion is not about the Golden Age. Our discussion is about Iran, its culture, its people and Islam. True, the Arabs did attempt to force Islam upon Iranians during the Umayyad era, but they did not succeed. It was only until the Abbasids loosened the Arab chauvanist grip upon Iran and instilled Iranians into the government that Iranians began accepting Islam.
@artagar Our ancient culture is still alive and well. We have a great understanding of the Achameneids, Parthians and Sassanids. We still speak Persian, celebrate Zoroastrian festivals and are proud of our non-Arab origins and ancient civilization. Today, we are the inheritors of Islam. We have contributed more to "Islamic" civilization, from architecture to literature, than the Arabs. If it were not for us, Islam would be no where today.
@Marduniya and shalom1948hellyeah is correct, when he says Mongol invasion was devastating to Iran. At the time of Mongol invasion the Baghdad hold on Iran was weak and many stated like Kharazmshahian were completely independent. At this point Iranians are semi Muslim and a very tolerant. Mongol destroyed the centers of Persian intellectual, which was Khorasan, and once they became Muslim, they introduced religious intolerance killing all other believes.
@artagar I am aware the Mongol invasion was devastating to Iran in regards to the amount of human lives lost. However, after the death of Genghis Khan and the establishment of the Ilkhanids, the Persian culture flourished.
@artagar Let us not forget that Iran's greatest culture influence occurred after the Turkic invasions (post-Islam) and the establishment of the Safavid dynasty. Iran's culture were the cornerstone of the Mughal empire and the Ottoman empire.
@saburoemon actually no. before it became a monotheistic theocracy it was a corrupt monarchy installed by the US after the CIA overthrew its government in the 1950s. the fact it is a "monotheistic theocracy" is a direct result of us and our fucked up policies. if we hadn't meddled it wouldn't be like that. learn your history.
@katchemash Kurds are also Iranians, and fought bravely to protect Iran for thousands of years and berfore the Persians there were the Medians who ruled Iran for a looooong time.
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The romans received what they deserved. It is funny to see how westeuropeans and americans heat nazis and love romanians. Most people think when it happened in the past it is a tale.
Shapur I (Shahenshah) defeated 3 Roman Emperors, Gordan III, Philip the Arab, and Valerian.
In Naqsh Rustam, Shapur's (Shahenshah) bas relief inscriptions state:
Caesar [Phillip] lied again and did wrong to Armenia. We [Shapur and his army] marched against the Roman Empire and annihilated an army of 60,000 men at Barbalissos"
The most famous Muslim General? Hardly, Khalid Ibn Walid for the original Arabian Conquests, Alp Arslan during the Seljuk reign, you are not even thinking of Mahmud Ghazni and even the likes of Timur.
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Bullcrap. Alexander the Great had used armored cavalry, as did the Roman Equites... and in the middle ages, knights in armor were around long before 1400 AD.
Horse archery is well suited for the vastness of Eurasian steppes. Indo-European and Ural-Altaic tribes are the master of this craft. It was the Indo-European Goths, and the Ural Altaic Huns that ultimately destroyed the Roman Empire. Gothic heavy cavalry and horse archers decimated entire Roman armies. Hunnic horse archers and light cavalry sacked Roman town after town. They also destroyed many Roman legions.
Actually, the threat from the Huns helped keep the Western Romans Empire together, as Goths and Romans combined to meet and defeat the Hunnish threat.
Driving various tribes into Roman territory eventually ended the Western Roman Empire. Who do you think they were fleeing? Hence despite the Huns having limited success in actually occupying Roman territory their impact was immense on Roman history.
@immortal117 Only two nations stand with success against the Roman Empire in his prime . The Parthians and the Germanic tribes ....
The Huns were for a while a real threat to the Romans and the Germanic tribes but in Chalons and in Nedao they were destroyed ..... Later the Germanics conwuere the west part of the roman empire and the strongest germanic kingdom were the Francs ..... the Romans in the east fought further many wars with the Persians ......
So..exactly what are you questioning? I said that the Hun invasions led to the migration of the Vandals and Goths into Roman grounds and those tribes would then later have an immense impact on Roman history.
@immortal117 I don't make a question I try to clear things :-) .. the Vandals and the Goths were germanic tribes and the germanic Migration was a long period and it started from Caader as he used germanic mercenaries . It was not bred ''only'' from the Huns but indeed the influence of the Huns to the migration was great..
I did not intend to imply the Huns was the only impetus of migration into Rome grounds. This would obviously not factor in other societal reasons of the various tribes.
My original comment was a response to a person saying the 'Hun threat' kept the Western Roman Empire together.
Again I did not claim that Theodoric did not ally with the Western Roman Empire to fend off Atilla's forces in Gaul. I said the pressure of migrations into Roman grounds was primarily caused by the Huns and this would have immense repercussions in the Western Roman Empire. Thus stating "keeping the Western Roman Empire together" is misleading as the Western Roman Empire's geopolitical state was in shambles.
the ''keeping the Western Roman Empire together'' is right only in microchronical terms. In macrochronical terms the effects of the Hun invasions were devastating for the west part of the Empire ....
@immortal117 are you from Iran ? did you know if the Achemenid empire had also cataphracts and horse-archers units in the time of the greco-persian wars ?
If they had those units I doubt that the southgreek infantry could have a chance against them ...
The TRUism will bear repetition that in no poetry so much grandeur of Style and variety of subject is expressed as in The Persian Poetry.Both in the realm of Mystical illusion and Romantic imagery the Persian poets have absolutely NO compeer.....
O kurdish......with this kinda HATE in you, you'll never get anything accomplished...
work on your hatred first. don't worry about what is Persian and what is not..
however; if you wanna know about PERSIANS and IRAN read their POETRY ....there are lots of tips in there for you to get rid of your hate.... then again the persians poets stole it from KURDS right:)
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Kurds,Balochs,Persians,Parthians,Pashtuns,Tajiks we all are of same race we are Aryans!! and we are all the sons of Cyrus the Great who was Aryan and a have a half Kurdish blood why not we all unite once again and make a mighty empire which world have ever seen yet!
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you are such a dumb idiot fucking FOOOOL.Mithraism was an northwest iranian Relgion and was even forbidden by many zarathustrian priest. The only Mithraistic people today are the yezidi kurds who believe on one God and praise the son!
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you stupid son of a bitch Zoroastirms was practist by kurds too but it was persian anyway.Mithraism was never an persian religion show me one source were Sassanids or Aschimeds practiced mithraism! they even killed mithraists.You iranian faggots are just jelous because your country looks like a shit smells like shit.Your are from shit .
The Western family includes Parthian (Arsacid Pahlavi) and Middle Persian, while Sogdian, Khwarezmian, Saka, and Old Ossetic (Scytho-Sarmatian) fall under the Eastern category. The two languages of the western group were linguistically very close to each other, but quite distinct from their eastern counterparts. On the other hand, the Eastern group retained some proximity to Avestan. They were inscribed in various Aramaic-derived alphabets, which had evolved from the Achaemenid Imperial Aramaic.
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man you realy have nothing to do to write t thing which has nothing to do with parthians and persian nor north west and east west.i know that northwest iranic and southwestiranic are closer then east iranic to northwest iranic BUT!! Northwest iranic had many words in common with east iranic which didn´t existed in southwest iranic like an which is 100% dravidian word comes from dravidic nan.
the Parthians spoke a Middle-Persian dialect, practiced Persian culture, had Persian customs, practiced a Persian religion (zoroasterianism),and considered theirself as Persians. They were Persian, so shut the fuck up! There's no clear evidence that says these people were non Persian, sure, they might have had some non-Persian influence, but in the end, as a majority, they were Persian in everyway.
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and again you are talking shit just because you want soX)
parthians didn´t spoked a middel persians dialect they spoked a northwestiranian dialect which is just a bit relatedt to persian RELATED don´t means the same;)
source Wikipedia.
xonomically, Parthian belongs to the Northwestern Iranian language group, while its close relative, Middle Persian, belongs to the Southwestern Iranian language group.
Kurds speak northwestiranic just like parthians;) so who is related to them?
God, you are such a fucking dumbass. Tati is also considered a Northwestern Iranian language, yet it is considered a Persian dialect, and Tats are Persian sub-groups who are decendant of the Sassanians. All this means is that these languages were influenced in the North or the west, it doesn't make them any closer, but just explains where these DIALECTS originated from.
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haha? even the nortrh scytians were persian? were you get that son of a idiot? give me some sources? you are actually so dumb and so fucking stupid that iam laughing my ass of:D here some sources from me.
Wikipedia.
The Parthian language, also known as Arsacid Pahlavi and Pahlavanik, is a now-extinct ancient NORTHWEST Iranian language spoken in Parthia.
you know what north west is? it´s the group of arian language kurds speak not southwest like you persians ;)
I swear for the past 2000 years, they have done everything to give credit of persian advancements to everyone else; like jews, islam, arabs, indians, germans, greeks, romans - every aspect has been accredited to another culture
Iran was always called EERON (Iran), meaning the land of the Aryans. The dumb looser greeks who were crushed by the Parthians for 13 times by MEHRDAD THE FIRST ( Mithradates) used to miss call Eeron as Persia (meaning the land of persians)!!!!
dont forget that the romans did conquer parthia in the second century AD and installed the Parthian prince Parthamaspates on the throne there as a client ruler.
Trajan's few months of victory over the smaller western part of the Parthian empire in Osroene (in modern Turky) very soon was reversed by the King Osroes and Romans under Hadrianus very fast admitted defeat and retreated. Therefore, pupet Parthamaspates was dethroned permanently. Parthia had many regional Parthian kings, and the "greater Parthia" was never touched by any Romans. Exchanging borders between the two were very common. DON'T FORGET THIS VIDEO! LOL
Trajan had massive revolts and riots at just that time, they did conquer parthia but simply couldnt stay long enough to govern it. because again the jewish revolts etc trajan died after those few months you call it in antioch. so its pretty obvious why they didnt finish the job(romans) their leader passed away. you can actually thank the jews for not beeing fully subdued allot of chain events forced the romans to concentrate in more important stuff than the "barbarians" of the east.
ONCE AGAIN, you keep NOT watching this video!! LOL It has all the answers to your distorted, FALSE eurocentric views of the world history. RE READ the answer I gave you about the LOSER Trajan, and Hadrianus beging for peace, and accepting defeat to the new PARTHIAN king of the western province of Parthia Osroene. Main land Parthia never touched, and SUREN PAHLAV crushed the best of the Roman empire's army by 1/4 of the size of that army!! LOL Aha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
@AryanSurenPahlav Hadrian never beged for peace at all, and was one of the most remarkable and talented of all the Emperors of Rome. He was a peace thinking about more of the people than himself, he surrendered Trajan's conquests in Mesopotamia, considering the Mesopotamians to be indefensible because of all the riots.Slowd down the Jewish revolt that had broken out under Trajan Hadrian trained his army to be the best. Hadrian also liked to demonstrate his knowledge and moreover he loved art
Therefore, IRAN ESPAHBOD SUREN PAHLAV, shatered the image of the lucky, mad, 5 feet SHORT, Alexander the BISEXUAL macedonian FOR EVER in the eyes of Roman empire! AND what happend to the greeks and poor macedonians??? Well I already told you that! LOL KEEP READING! LOL
1) I am not muslim. 2) Mohamad was not Persian, he was arab. 3) Islam never gave a fuck about the lucky 5 feet SHORT, HOMOSEXUAL macedonian. 4) Fix your English spelling ERRORS they are funny. 5) DON'T you EVER forget this VIDEO!!! AHa, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha..................LOL
i'm sorry I just assumed with your hatred for jews that you where a muslim. And I'm sorry for any misspellings.. English isn't my first language =) Why do you bash people who dissagree with you? fact: persia has been conquered many times. ergo not the best army(s) in the world. yet youre some kind of fanatic who dissregards history and whatever historic facts there is you squize them into fitting your world view of persian and world history. where the persians are supreme in every aspect.
Dear Dorzzo, I do not bash people, I am just sharing historical FACTS which are NEVER heard by IGNORANT western world! If it bothers you, I am SORRY! The TRUTH is the TRUTH, & I will never back down from the TRUTH. I LOVE real Jewish people & deeply resent Zionist rulers of Israel, & Jewish owners of Hollywood, & 95% of U.S media! UNLIKE you I have deep respect for REAL Greeks, & of course Romans as I am half Italian. But I know IRANIAN history extremely well & will inform the misinformed!
One more thing Dorzzo: "Don't you EVER forget this Video"! Aha, ha, ha, ha, ha, LOL
YOU just PROVED, & revealed your HATRED for Iran & its history with your meaningless childish remarks! NOW that I know it, why should I WASTE my time teaching you precious information about history! Instead, LET the GAME BEGIN!
So tell me Dorzzo the size of the curvature of your ASS, is it as round and chubby as greek Homosexual soldiers who use to sleep together & have anal sex orgy? How about PEDERASTY? LOL
Actually the name was "IRAN ESPAHBOD SUREN PAHLAV", meaning Iran's supreme general Suren Pahlav. This is a magnificent video of TRUE (Aryan) Iranian history. We love you Suren Pahlav.
i agree with that, thats why persians still respect greeks today, even though we fought, and we conquered them and they conquered us, it was with respect.
Greek and persian culture were mixed together aftter alexander the great but it didn't last for long since persia was retaken by persians and greece was conquered by romans easily, because they couldn't take on persia because they knew nothing about the persian culture, lifestyle, armies, tactics. Persia is the most long lasting empire with different people ruling like parthians and sasadins but still (persian).
Parthians were NOT Persians, I do not know why the guy on the videor refers to them as Persian.
Garudaa2 5 days ago
How interesting thanks for the upload
bboyunagi 5 days ago
This guy is wrong- the roman legionaries murdered the cataphracts- that's why they retreated. It was the amazing parthian horse archers that won the battle. Crassus didn't charge the archers either- he had his son take some cav and charge. This guy is describing a simplified and wrong version of the battle. Don't believe me? Read an account of the battle. Parthia would later be conquored by Rome as Crassus was hardly a general of note- definitely not a Caesar
PatrickEngSU 1 month ago in playlist History
@PatrickEngSU I'm pretty sure Persia didn't fall to Rome, They fell from the Parthian dynasty to Sassanid dynasty then to the evil arab that Islamifyed it :P
MrAfreeworld 4 weeks ago
@PatrickEngSU The catapchracts maybe retreaded but managed to avert the forming of the defensive Roman triangle, that's why the archers decimated the legions.
panagiotis325 2 weeks ago
Let me add one thing: Parthian=Pahlawan=Hero a Kurdish word. Middle Kurdistan was called Pahlawani (language of Heroes) and the southern parts of Great Kurdistan was called PAhlawa which means place of Pahla (Parthia). Still Zazaki-Gurani-Ahuramani-Laki-Fayli are called Pahlawani Kurdish groupe. Even Fayli Kurds in South Iraq are from the Parthian dystyny, the PArthian capital Madayin lies in SOuth Kurdistan.
TheZagros3000 4 months ago
the civilization was median, cyrus killed their king and occupied their land only and welcome in persia...
HungarianHistory 4 months ago
@HungarianHistory Nonsense, read Xenophon's Cyrupaedia, or even Herodotus' records. Median king was Cyrus' maternal grandfather, Astyages, and once Cyrus the Great conquered the Median empire, he spared Astyages, whom earlier attempted to dispatch Cyrus when he was a child. Astyages was granted permission to live in peace and luxury in Cyrus' court until his death.
SonOfCyrusTheGreat 4 months ago
@SonOfCyrusTheGreat
we made by media, not the aryans. Magyars or savars (royal hungarians) are from Subartu. Mitanni-Mada too, and the MADAS made by Media. Next came the aryans and occupied Media were born Persia, and the name of media was AGJEM. Savarans in Sassanide empire were we too, with our Emse princess turul Falcon symbol.
HungarianHistory 4 months ago
@HungarianHistory
you aryans only thiefs we made by the human civilization as sumer, subar,elam. agglutinative languge is oldest on Eurasia! Paris Sorbonne university made exam which language saved the more old-common etimons from proto-language, aryan languges saved 5%, Türks saved 25% hungarians saved 68%! sumerians had only 55%
HungarianHistory 4 months ago
@HungarianHistory First of all this is not a battle ground, so hold ur horses.... be cool and have some respect, I don't recall anyone insulting ur ancestral lineage, or offending u, otherwise I'm going to have to block you along with ignoring ur comments. Second, I don't understand what you're saying, try and clear up ur arguments and grammar.
SonOfCyrusTheGreat 4 months ago
@SonOfCyrusTheGreat
Actualy no. Cyrus Grandfather Astyages orderd his armys to quell Cyrus growing power and influence, but, Astyages was betrayed by his own general, who gave his allegance to Cyrus, they captured Astyages and his fate was unknown, historians believed him to be exiled, burned to death, or suicide.
blazingsamus 3 months ago
@blazingsamus Reference?
SonOfCyrusTheGreat 3 months ago
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@SonOfCyrusTheGreat fuck up cunt i know my shit dickhead, dont you ever talk to me about things you dont understand assclown
blazingsamus 2 months ago
at 6 minutes why is he wearing a phyrian cap??
supersymbiotic 5 months ago
It's pretty messed up how Surena was MURDERED by the very king he had successfully sworn to protect. He was threatened and jealous of Surena's success. Just goes to show how the Parthians weren't that different from the Romans in that they had scumbag aristocrats and bureaucrats who were willing to kill good people for their own benefit. Greedy scum are present in every civilization, I guess
TheGreaterGood80 7 months ago
Persia was not as powerful as Rome. Romans twice captured Ctesiphon (the Persian capital) and then went back to their land. Persia was never able to capture Constantinople, let alone Rome. Persia was a great empire to be sure, but not as great as Rome.
refriaire 8 months ago
@refriaire I think it's a matter of opinion. Rome was not an empire yet at this time, but to be fair, this was not the Persian Empire of Cyrus and Darius either. That Empire was sure comparable to that of Rome, even greater in some respects because of their legacy of religious and cultural tolerance.
jessicalba7 8 months ago
@refriaire You should know that If and when the Iranians wanted to they could remove any cesar ruling the trone at the moment.. Shapur 1 alone removed 3 Cesars and philip the arab too
just because they did not have a barbaric invasive mentality does not mean they could not conquer
solo141984 6 months ago
@solo141984 No they could not just go in and remove any cesar at all plus invasive Is the wrong word, It was an empire and empire conquer and kill to become an empire
viperreturns 6 months ago
Love the video, but he said knights in shining armor wouldn't appear in Europe for another 1500 years, it is probably closer to 1000-1100 years.
HistoryLubber 9 months ago
parthians had hungarian runes...
Funerary stele from Fiesole, Florence Archeological museum, c. 520 B.C.
XD put down our ancestors please!
GOGesMAGOG 11 months ago
@GOGesMAGOG LOL
parthians were an iranian empire based in Iran no offense, they are a Iranian Tribe.
PersianCataphract 10 months ago
Rome sacked the parthian capital 3 times while the parthians never arrived anywhere near Rome.
Also, Rome lasted much longer than the Parthians... Truly, to prove the greatness of Persia (which is a certain thing) the Parthians are certainly not the best option instead go for the Achaemenid.
lhd08 1 year ago
@lhd08
well actually, if i remember correctly, the romans never sacked the parthian capital Ctesiphon, it was during the time of the Sassanians much later.
and you are also wrong about rome lasting longer. sure, the eastern roman (byzantine) empire fell in the 15th century, but Iran still exists today. It is the longest continual civilization next to china.
and if you want to get technical, the Roman Empire was an entirely different government/nation compared to the republic
zazenzach 1 year ago
@zazenzach Trajan sacked Ctesiphon in 113 AD. Avidius Cassius sacked in 165 AD. Septimus severus sacked in 197 AD.
Your logic is complete flawed...The roman entity laid the foundation to the western world, it is culture still exists to date the same can be said about Iran but Iran got overrun by arabs and Islam so that its past culture is much less respect or applied when compared to Rome.
Your logic is Iran exists then so does Persia, well Italy exist therefore so does Rome (nonsense).
lhd08 1 year ago
@lhd08 Well how about my logic? I say Persia exists along with Iran because my culture was not affected by those who occupied my country, theirs were affected by mine. Alexander conquered Iran and started worshipping Cyrus the great. Arabs even learned too cook when they went to Iran and Mongols fell in love with literature. We have presented many scientific fundamentals to the world, we have an incomparable poetry and we speak Persian language, not arabic, mongol, greek or any other.
gorgealaki 10 months ago
@lhd08
alright well the logic is not so flawed, because even though Iran got overrun by Greeks, Arabs, Turks and Mongols its civilization absorbed all of those elements and survived, Persia is still persia, its language remains persian.
Rome did not lay the foundation to the western world alone, Greeks were essential , some will argue even more important. Rome got overran by germanic tribes and christianity, The roman civilization is gone just like those of babylon and sumer
DJKAYZEE 8 months ago
@lhd08 i think you are dreaming.. first of all you should do your homework..but forget your Western philosophy and sources.. You are being fooled. First of all look at the publishers of human history..second modern scolars are already changing everything you are reading.. Horsemen culture is that of an iranian culture.. cataphracts too.. See Parthian shot and nisean horses
solo141984 5 months ago
The iranian plato saw many great civilizations like the achaemenid, parthia and the Sassanid...
Parthia, i believe, was the weakest of these "3" civilizations...
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Anyway, the video is not accurate; the first cavalary charge was repeled nd only then they started the arrow routine.
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Nonetheless, the Romans usually had the upper hand against the parthians (Sassanids were stronger than the parthians).
lhd08 1 year ago
Orodes II rewarded Surena with an execution because he was jealous of him! Like the Romans, the Parthians had no qualms about stabbing each other in the back
TheGreaterGood80 1 year ago
Jones hasn't a clue about this battle, the Parthians or Rome.
1)Rome saw the Parthians as powerful sophisticated rivals not barbarians.
2)Crassus attacked for personal gain and his campaign was illegal and had he lived he might have been declared an enemy of the state by the Senate.
3)Crassus was a disaster as a general.
4)The Rome vs Parthia war lasted for hundreds of years because of Crassus's stupidity.
A much better account of the Battle of Carrhae can be found here: watch?v=b61XHRfFQmk
1138thz 1 year ago
This idiot says that there were thousands of Cataphract's (Armored Lancers) there were about 1000. The first charge of the Armored Lancers was repulsed easily. After that the Parthians used their 9000 mounted archers to tear the Romans apart. It was a resounding victory over a Roman army commanded by an incompetent General. Fifteen years later the Parthians encountered Publius Ventidius Bassus at the battle of Cyrrhestica and were crushed and Crown Prince Pacorus was captured and beheaded.
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RoseanYoksi47 1 year ago
Jones is a very entertaining presenter but I almost always wonder about some of the things he says. Was Crassus really executed by having molten gold poured down his throat? That is a striking image but it seems more mythical than historical to me. Anyone know what likely happened?
pablo4115 1 year ago
@pablo4115 According to Axworthy (A history of Iran: Empire of the mind), Crassus was beheaded under direct orders of general Suren, his head was delivered to the Parthian king Orodes while he was listening to an actor playing Euripede's play "The Bacchae" in the court. Although Axworthy goes on saying even what the actor was singing when the head arrived, which makes it rather a theatrical retelling of the history. Nevertheless, it's a different take.
SonOfCyrusTheGreat 1 year ago
@SonOfCyrusTheGreat
Yeah, that figures. Every time I watch one of his documentaries I find him very watchable but there are always a few things that sound like he's either naive or stretching the truth for the sake of a good yarn.
pablo4115 1 year ago
@pablo4115 That maybe true, but the big picture and the brute historical facts remain intact nevertheless. Details may have been altered by tellers, but the underlying facts of the battles and the outcome of those battles are not to be questioned.
SonOfCyrusTheGreat 4 months ago
@SonOfCyrusTheGreat
I agree. But how we come to learn about those facts - i.e. what we take to be reliable sources - is to be questioned.
pablo4115 4 months ago
@SonOfCyrusTheGreat
christians jews and muslims have always been idol
and they one day all
christians jews and muslims
deserve to be slaughtered and their religions must be removed from history .
i am proud to be from the white race, the celtic norse race .
ukgreaterlondon 7 months ago
@SonOfCyrusTheGreat
i guess the parthians was an army made up with germans danish greeks and pakistanis : )
roman are wimpy cunts .
ukgreaterlondon 7 months ago
@ukgreaterlondon The Parthians were Persian sub-groups.
persiandudeee 6 months ago
@pablo4115
It's the legend to show Barbary. You really can't trust a lot of stories the Romans tell.
kattaylordesign 1 year ago
@pablo4115 Yes, this whole thing seems to be very innacurate. It is a shame that even educational shows cater to sensationalism.
refriaire 8 months ago
@pablo4115 i thought he got stuffed with straw and dung? well after the whole mess with having to swallow gold or silver ether way crassus deserved it he was a greedy rapacious dick that robbed many of his fellow romans to enrich himself
LordAzanko 6 months ago
pure persian pride
coolestTV 1 year ago
What a great documentary...I wish Italian TV could produce something like this instead of being only Berlusconi's propaganda TV.....
p5ivan 1 year ago
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heatflash888 1 year ago
Islam was a catastrophe to Persians, which not only destroyed it's civilization, but also remained in its blood like a disease till today, so not only it never gloried again, but since the entry of Islam it got weaker and weaker and morally/mentally got more and more backward to the petty full stage of death that is today.
artagar 1 year ago
@artagar No the Mongol conquests in the 13th century is the event that decimated Persian culture and population from which it never recovered. Islam contributed much during the middle ages to Persia in terms of arts and science. That's the reason why there's such a thing as the Islamic Golden Age for anyone who's studied Persia or Middle Asian history. The destruction that the Mongol wrought ended that period and ended Persia a native regional superpower to this day.
shalom1948hellyeah 1 year ago
@shalom1948hellyeah
It is a bit hard to not consider the Safavid Dynasty a regional power. :)
immortal117 1 year ago
@shalom1948hellyeah The Mongols did not decimate Persian culture. In fact, the Persian culture conquered the Mongols.
Marduniya 1 year ago
@shalom1948hellyeah PS. today, Iran is a regional superpower. :)
Marduniya 1 year ago
@Marduniya Iran at best is as much as a super power as Iraq was. They have no army. All they have bunch of thugs to suppress Iranian's people democratic movements. The Missile technology they have bought from North Korean, Chinese and Russians are all obsolete and have not strategical value, their tanks and fighter jets are what was purchased by Shah in 70s and belongs to junk yard. Field Marshal Mullah Khameni is the head of the armed forces (I wander which military school did he graduate!?)
artagar 1 year ago
@artagar You make several major mistake within your argument. First, you underestimate Iran's position within the region. We have defeated Israel through proxy, Iraq practically belongs to Iran, energy highways in Central Asia and Afghanistan (Herat is a part of Iran in all but name) practically belong to Iran, Shia rebels in Yemen are under Iranian influence and Hamas is under Iranian influence. These are the blue-prints to an empire, so please do not tell me we are on the same level as Iraq.
Marduniya 1 year ago
@artagar Our missile system has been greatly influenced by North Korea and our tanks and fighter jets are American. But what is more important is Iran's constant efforts to indigenously rebuild these equipments. Our missile program today far surpasses that of North Korea; we have even launched a satellite into space, a task accomplished only by few nations. The F-14 jet is almost 100% overhauled thanks to Iranian engineers.
Marduniya 1 year ago
@artagar All these attempts to indigenously create these weapons was due to the Iran-Iraq war. Thanks to the Shah's incompetence, Iran was left to rely upon other countries for military equipment and spare parts as we had practically no defense industry of our own.
No one said Iran is going to build F-22's and M1 Abrams, but these are the first step to become an independent nation.
Marduniya 1 year ago
@Marduniya
I have no Idea why Iran and the USA are enemies except that our leaders seem to want it that way. I will always remember the demonstrations and in Tehran after 9/11 where the Saudi terrorists were condemned by the people and Ali Khamenei himself. Now Saudi Arabia wants the USA to attack Iran's nuclear reactors how absurd. The Saudis won't do it themselves because they are cowards. Why is my country supporting a diseased Monarchy against another Republic? The three letter word.
1138thz 1 year ago
@Marduniya Iran was a super power before Islam they never were super power again and they never will be, unless they people of Iran succeed in establishing a secular democratic government in Iran. But Mullahs in Iran have for the first time tasted power and money, and they are willing to kill millions to stay in power. It is extremely difficult for Iranians to free themselves from these tugs.
artagar 1 year ago
@artagar The Samanids, Saffarids, Safavids and Afsharids were all regional superpowers. Iran today is a regional superpower.
Marduniya 1 year ago
@artagar It seems you do not know the slightest bit about Iranian history and culture.
Marduniya 1 year ago
@Marduniya I know Iran history very well. First Islam did not contribute to Golden Age. If Islam was a contributor to art and science, then we must have thousand of artist and scientist from the center of Islam, which was Mecca and Medina (Yatrab) can you find one single artist in the whole history of Islam in Mecca or Medina? I am sure not. The Golden Age of Islam happened during the secular Khalifs of Islam and as result of connecting cultures which already were very well civilized.
artagar 1 year ago
@artagar I am well aware the Islamic Golden Age was not a result of Arab "intelligence" (for lack of better word), but this discussion is not about the Golden Age. Our discussion is about Iran, its culture, its people and Islam. True, the Arabs did attempt to force Islam upon Iranians during the Umayyad era, but they did not succeed. It was only until the Abbasids loosened the Arab chauvanist grip upon Iran and instilled Iranians into the government that Iranians began accepting Islam.
99999999988888888 1 year ago
@artagar Our ancient culture is still alive and well. We have a great understanding of the Achameneids, Parthians and Sassanids. We still speak Persian, celebrate Zoroastrian festivals and are proud of our non-Arab origins and ancient civilization. Today, we are the inheritors of Islam. We have contributed more to "Islamic" civilization, from architecture to literature, than the Arabs. If it were not for us, Islam would be no where today.
99999999988888888 1 year ago
@artagar Sorry, I replied to you with my old account. Hit the reply to this (Marduniya) account.
Marduniya 1 year ago
@Marduniya and shalom1948hellyeah is correct, when he says Mongol invasion was devastating to Iran. At the time of Mongol invasion the Baghdad hold on Iran was weak and many stated like Kharazmshahian were completely independent. At this point Iranians are semi Muslim and a very tolerant. Mongol destroyed the centers of Persian intellectual, which was Khorasan, and once they became Muslim, they introduced religious intolerance killing all other believes.
artagar 1 year ago
@artagar I am aware the Mongol invasion was devastating to Iran in regards to the amount of human lives lost. However, after the death of Genghis Khan and the establishment of the Ilkhanids, the Persian culture flourished.
Marduniya 1 year ago
@artagar Let us not forget that Iran's greatest culture influence occurred after the Turkic invasions (post-Islam) and the establishment of the Safavid dynasty. Iran's culture were the cornerstone of the Mughal empire and the Ottoman empire.
Marduniya 1 year ago
before it became a monotheistic theocracy, it might have been a pretty cool place.
saburoemon 1 year ago
@saburoemon actually no. before it became a monotheistic theocracy it was a corrupt monarchy installed by the US after the CIA overthrew its government in the 1950s. the fact it is a "monotheistic theocracy" is a direct result of us and our fucked up policies. if we hadn't meddled it wouldn't be like that. learn your history.
shalom1948hellyeah 1 year ago
@kurdologe09, What Kurdistan? all Kurds are girl killers with no honour. There never was a Kurdistan and never will be.
katchemash 1 year ago
@katchemash Kurds are also Iranians, and fought bravely to protect Iran for thousands of years and berfore the Persians there were the Medians who ruled Iran for a looooong time.
xsroo 1 year ago 2
long life persia
long life Zazana
Long life Aryana
ParthianMuslimZaza 1 year ago
8:01 looks hunnic.
Norguy77 1 year ago
seems like the oldern western civilization is always getting their asses kicked by horse archers.
redhawkdown2 1 year ago
are balochistanis parthians?
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IranPoliticsClub 1 year ago
lol irony 7:12
ptolemy1989 1 year ago
some time later the romans had their own cataphract cavalry, from them derived the knights of european medieval age
HomoGnosticus 1 year ago
CATAPHRACTS!!! :D :D :D
FaakedLillebror 1 year ago
Payandeh AriA Iran 7000+
iranovich2 1 year ago
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dannelit0w 1 year ago
The romans received what they deserved. It is funny to see how westeuropeans and americans heat nazis and love romanians. Most people think when it happened in the past it is a tale.
antonarset 1 year ago 2
@antonarset The Romans had a 2000 year run.
DonMeaker 1 year ago
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Shapur I (Shahenshah) defeated 3 Roman Emperors, Gordan III, Philip the Arab, and Valerian.
In Naqsh Rustam, Shapur's (Shahenshah) bas relief inscriptions state:
Caesar [Phillip] lied again and did wrong to Armenia. We [Shapur and his army] marched against the Roman Empire and annihilated an army of 60,000 men at Barbalissos"
iiNDiTC 1 year ago
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iiNDiTC 1 year ago
hmm
two version: one said the parthians poured gold down his throat, the others said he died in the retreat when they cut off his head.
FearAcademy 2 years ago
hmm I wonder what molten gold tastes like!
shir1999 1 year ago
Pathian bows used glue that was water soluble. In the desert-effective in western europe not so much.
DonMeaker 2 years ago 2
By the gods of old, what a great execution, I would have coated the pig in molten gold and displayed him as a statue.
Valmarith 2 years ago
Hah! The Romans were cut down like the dogs they were.
Valmarith 2 years ago
LOL Kurds are all willing around the youtube Historical videos which may have something to do with the History of Iran.
They also claimed the Assyrian Empire and Parthian Empire to be Kurdish.
It is totally bogus.
Zartushta 2 years ago 11
Although Saladin, the most famous Muslim General was Kurdish
DonMeaker 2 years ago
@DonMeaker
The most famous Muslim General? Hardly, Khalid Ibn Walid for the original Arabian Conquests, Alp Arslan during the Seljuk reign, you are not even thinking of Mahmud Ghazni and even the likes of Timur.
immortal117 1 year ago
long life persia !
long life kurdistan !
IRANNNNNNNNNN
kurdologe09 2 years ago 18
@kurdologe09 LOng live Media and Persia. A common history and common Future.
AryanaUnited 1 year ago
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SassanianPrince 2 years ago
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Bullcrap. Alexander the Great had used armored cavalry, as did the Roman Equites... and in the middle ages, knights in armor were around long before 1400 AD.
Nonamearisto 2 years ago
these are moslems the persians were zoroastrians n aryans not lizard eaters frm the desert!!!!
khodu1 2 years ago
A nice documentary. Thanks for uploading it O son of Cyrus the Great ! Or shall I refer to you as the son of Kourosh !
sahajad 2 years ago
Horse archery is well suited for the vastness of Eurasian steppes. Indo-European and Ural-Altaic tribes are the master of this craft. It was the Indo-European Goths, and the Ural Altaic Huns that ultimately destroyed the Roman Empire. Gothic heavy cavalry and horse archers decimated entire Roman armies. Hunnic horse archers and light cavalry sacked Roman town after town. They also destroyed many Roman legions.
He101A 2 years ago
Actually, the threat from the Huns helped keep the Western Romans Empire together, as Goths and Romans combined to meet and defeat the Hunnish threat.
DonMeaker 2 years ago
@DonMeaker
Driving various tribes into Roman territory eventually ended the Western Roman Empire. Who do you think they were fleeing? Hence despite the Huns having limited success in actually occupying Roman territory their impact was immense on Roman history.
immortal117 1 year ago
@immortal117 Only two nations stand with success against the Roman Empire in his prime . The Parthians and the Germanic tribes ....
The Huns were for a while a real threat to the Romans and the Germanic tribes but in Chalons and in Nedao they were destroyed ..... Later the Germanics conwuere the west part of the roman empire and the strongest germanic kingdom were the Francs ..... the Romans in the east fought further many wars with the Persians ......
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
@megasayajinsongoku99
So..exactly what are you questioning? I said that the Hun invasions led to the migration of the Vandals and Goths into Roman grounds and those tribes would then later have an immense impact on Roman history.
immortal117 1 year ago
@immortal117 I don't make a question I try to clear things :-) .. the Vandals and the Goths were germanic tribes and the germanic Migration was a long period and it started from Caader as he used germanic mercenaries . It was not bred ''only'' from the Huns but indeed the influence of the Huns to the migration was great..
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
@megasayajinsongoku99
Fair enough.....
I did not intend to imply the Huns was the only impetus of migration into Rome grounds. This would obviously not factor in other societal reasons of the various tribes.
My original comment was a response to a person saying the 'Hun threat' kept the Western Roman Empire together.
immortal117 1 year ago
@immortal117 this is partly right because the Germanics were allies with the Romans against the Huns ........
After the destruction of the Huns the Germanics could concentrate to Rome...
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
@megasayajinsongoku99
Again I did not claim that Theodoric did not ally with the Western Roman Empire to fend off Atilla's forces in Gaul. I said the pressure of migrations into Roman grounds was primarily caused by the Huns and this would have immense repercussions in the Western Roman Empire. Thus stating "keeping the Western Roman Empire together" is misleading as the Western Roman Empire's geopolitical state was in shambles.
immortal117 1 year ago
@immortal117 fair enough...... :-)
the ''keeping the Western Roman Empire together'' is right only in microchronical terms. In macrochronical terms the effects of the Hun invasions were devastating for the west part of the Empire ....
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
@immortal117 are you from Iran ? did you know if the Achemenid empire had also cataphracts and horse-archers units in the time of the greco-persian wars ?
If they had those units I doubt that the southgreek infantry could have a chance against them ...
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
The TRUism will bear repetition that in no poetry so much grandeur of Style and variety of subject is expressed as in The Persian Poetry.Both in the realm of Mystical illusion and Romantic imagery the Persian poets have absolutely NO compeer.....
sirmadness33 2 years ago
There is no poetry like the poetry of Persian Bugger boys! From their dishonor and pain they squealed their passion!
DonMeaker 2 years ago
O kurdish......with this kinda HATE in you, you'll never get anything accomplished...
work on your hatred first. don't worry about what is Persian and what is not..
however; if you wanna know about PERSIANS and IRAN read their POETRY ....there are lots of tips in there for you to get rid of your hate.... then again the persians poets stole it from KURDS right:)
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sirmadness33 2 years ago
when was this Doc made? I'd never heard of it before. But it's good.
Thanks for the upload Cyrus.
mistermajestyck 2 years ago
There exercises are like break-dancing.
SourcesAreEverything 2 years ago
I'm getting tired just watching it. Too much exercise for me lol
mistermajestyck 2 years ago
Aren't u following what he said? The arrows went through the roman armor.
TsarSamuil 2 years ago 2
Crassus fails. how the hell did a roman legion die to archers did they break rank?
theincredibledouche 2 years ago
No, Crassus was definetly no Ceasar. Amateur.
80sClone 2 years ago
ya the romans got defeated by them parthians badly!
AnahiemerOC 2 years ago
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Kurds,Balochs,Persians,Parthians,Pashtuns,Tajiks we all are of same race we are Aryans!! and we are all the sons of Cyrus the Great who was Aryan and a have a half Kurdish blood why not we all unite once again and make a mighty empire which world have ever seen yet!
Free Kurdistan!
Free Balochistan!
Free Iran!
love for all my Aryan brothers!<3
legharibaloch1 2 years ago
Why are Kurds shitting everywhere on every Iranian videos ?
EdgeSimplyTheBest 2 years ago 3
Long Live Iranian Spirit and Culture
IranBozorg11 2 years ago
Why dont hollywood-bitches make a movie about this instead of that bitchy-movie ''the 300''
AntiDOGZ 2 years ago 7
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outlawfly 2 years ago 8
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you are such a dumb idiot fucking FOOOOL.Mithraism was an northwest iranian Relgion and was even forbidden by many zarathustrian priest. The only Mithraistic people today are the yezidi kurds who believe on one God and praise the son!
dataman121 2 years ago
still the persians did practice it you dumb fuck so whats your point?...do you think every persian during that time practiced zoroastrian? NO!
Even if kurds do practice it today...well it does not mean its a kurdish ancient religion idiot.
The world reconized mithraism as a persian religion....the word persian is refered to every iranian people by the west meaning united iranians.
You kurds are just filthy with no country, pathetic, and jealous always tries to steal other peoples history.
outlawfly 2 years ago
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you stupid son of a bitch Zoroastirms was practist by kurds too but it was persian anyway.Mithraism was never an persian religion show me one source were Sassanids or Aschimeds practiced mithraism! they even killed mithraists.You iranian faggots are just jelous because your country looks like a shit smells like shit.Your are from shit .
dataman121 2 years ago
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EdgeSimplyTheBest 2 years ago
The Western family includes Parthian (Arsacid Pahlavi) and Middle Persian, while Sogdian, Khwarezmian, Saka, and Old Ossetic (Scytho-Sarmatian) fall under the Eastern category. The two languages of the western group were linguistically very close to each other, but quite distinct from their eastern counterparts. On the other hand, the Eastern group retained some proximity to Avestan. They were inscribed in various Aramaic-derived alphabets, which had evolved from the Achaemenid Imperial Aramaic.
persiandudeee 2 years ago
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man you realy have nothing to do to write t thing which has nothing to do with parthians and persian nor north west and east west.i know that northwest iranic and southwestiranic are closer then east iranic to northwest iranic BUT!! Northwest iranic had many words in common with east iranic which didn´t existed in southwest iranic like an which is 100% dravidian word comes from dravidic nan.
dataman121 2 years ago
the Parthians spoke a Middle-Persian dialect, practiced Persian culture, had Persian customs, practiced a Persian religion (zoroasterianism),and considered theirself as Persians. They were Persian, so shut the fuck up! There's no clear evidence that says these people were non Persian, sure, they might have had some non-Persian influence, but in the end, as a majority, they were Persian in everyway.
persiandudeee 2 years ago
no non and again iam laughiny my ass off haha:D
here a source just for stupid idiots like you.
h t t p ://w w w.parthia. c o m/parthia_religion.htm
The Parthians worshiped the cult of Mithra, the same Mithraism that was embraced by much of the ancient world.
Parthians believed on the son god Mithra and Mithra people hated zoroastrians you should know that;)
dataman121 2 years ago
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and again you are talking shit just because you want soX)
parthians didn´t spoked a middel persians dialect they spoked a northwestiranian dialect which is just a bit relatedt to persian RELATED don´t means the same;)
source Wikipedia.
xonomically, Parthian belongs to the Northwestern Iranian language group, while its close relative, Middle Persian, belongs to the Southwestern Iranian language group.
Kurds speak northwestiranic just like parthians;) so who is related to them?
dataman121 2 years ago
God, you are such a fucking dumbass. Tati is also considered a Northwestern Iranian language, yet it is considered a Persian dialect, and Tats are Persian sub-groups who are decendant of the Sassanians. All this means is that these languages were influenced in the North or the west, it doesn't make them any closer, but just explains where these DIALECTS originated from.
persiandudeee 2 years ago
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the later sassanid who fougted agains the roman empire were persians but not the parthians
dataman121 2 years ago
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lool parthians persians?X) suck my dick english idiots even in your english wikipedia it said Parthians northwest iranic tribe NO PERSIANS!
dataman121 2 years ago
Shut the Fuck Up.
The Parthians were actually half Scythians and half Persians.
Even the Scythians were ancient Iranian people.
But the Parthian kings just like the Sassanids always claimed that their grandfather was Artaxerxes II king of Persia.
EdgeSimplyTheBest 2 years ago 2
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haha? even the nortrh scytians were persian? were you get that son of a idiot? give me some sources? you are actually so dumb and so fucking stupid that iam laughing my ass of:D here some sources from me.
Wikipedia.
The Parthian language, also known as Arsacid Pahlavi and Pahlavanik, is a now-extinct ancient NORTHWEST Iranian language spoken in Parthia.
you know what north west is? it´s the group of arian language kurds speak not southwest like you persians ;)
dataman121 2 years ago
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parthians are not persian
maviulke12 2 years ago
what are they?
chonchcrusher 2 years ago
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todays gilaks mazandrans sangsars and the kurdish leks hewrams and zazas they are ;) not persian
dataman121 2 years ago
Okay, here's a example for your shit filled brain :)
Middle Persian: hučihr, hužihr, xōn, nân, âwurdan, āwāy-, āwar-, bar-, brād, brâdar, âmadan, awar.
Parthian: hužihr, xōn, nân, āwāy-, āwar-, bar-, brād, brādar, awar, čām
There's no doubt that Parthian was a dialect of Middle-Persian.
persiandudeee 2 years ago 4
I swear for the past 2000 years, they have done everything to give credit of persian advancements to everyone else; like jews, islam, arabs, indians, germans, greeks, romans - every aspect has been accredited to another culture
IranWantsDivorce 2 years ago 4
It's because they take advantage of our hospitality and abuse it.
persiandudeee 2 years ago 4
Greedings from Greece Persian people.:)
The people of Greece supports you.
antonis5784 2 years ago 4
The blood of SUREN PAHLAV is boiling in every true Iranian today. Beware the enemies.
AryanSurenPahlav 2 years ago
Iran was always called EERON (Iran), meaning the land of the Aryans. The dumb looser greeks who were crushed by the Parthians for 13 times by MEHRDAD THE FIRST ( Mithradates) used to miss call Eeron as Persia (meaning the land of persians)!!!!
AryanSurenPahlav 2 years ago 2
dont forget that the romans did conquer parthia in the second century AD and installed the Parthian prince Parthamaspates on the throne there as a client ruler.
Dorrzo 2 years ago
Trajan's few months of victory over the smaller western part of the Parthian empire in Osroene (in modern Turky) very soon was reversed by the King Osroes and Romans under Hadrianus very fast admitted defeat and retreated. Therefore, pupet Parthamaspates was dethroned permanently. Parthia had many regional Parthian kings, and the "greater Parthia" was never touched by any Romans. Exchanging borders between the two were very common. DON'T FORGET THIS VIDEO! LOL
AryanSurenPahlav 2 years ago
Trajan had massive revolts and riots at just that time, they did conquer parthia but simply couldnt stay long enough to govern it. because again the jewish revolts etc trajan died after those few months you call it in antioch. so its pretty obvious why they didnt finish the job(romans) their leader passed away. you can actually thank the jews for not beeing fully subdued allot of chain events forced the romans to concentrate in more important stuff than the "barbarians" of the east.
Dorrzo 2 years ago
ONCE AGAIN, you keep NOT watching this video!! LOL It has all the answers to your distorted, FALSE eurocentric views of the world history. RE READ the answer I gave you about the LOSER Trajan, and Hadrianus beging for peace, and accepting defeat to the new PARTHIAN king of the western province of Parthia Osroene. Main land Parthia never touched, and SUREN PAHLAV crushed the best of the Roman empire's army by 1/4 of the size of that army!! LOL Aha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
Romans PISSED in there PANTS!
AryanSurenPahlav 2 years ago
@AryanSurenPahlav Hadrian never beged for peace at all, and was one of the most remarkable and talented of all the Emperors of Rome. He was a peace thinking about more of the people than himself, he surrendered Trajan's conquests in Mesopotamia, considering the Mesopotamians to be indefensible because of all the riots.Slowd down the Jewish revolt that had broken out under Trajan Hadrian trained his army to be the best. Hadrian also liked to demonstrate his knowledge and moreover he loved art
viperreturns 6 months ago
Therefore, IRAN ESPAHBOD SUREN PAHLAV, shatered the image of the lucky, mad, 5 feet SHORT, Alexander the BISEXUAL macedonian FOR EVER in the eyes of Roman empire! AND what happend to the greeks and poor macedonians??? Well I already told you that! LOL KEEP READING! LOL
AryanSurenPahlav 2 years ago
Isnt that macedonian bisexual as you put it on of your prophets in islam? if youre a muslim you just commited self pwnage.
Dorrzo 2 years ago
HAY Dorzzo, LET ME TEACH you MORE history:
1) I am not muslim. 2) Mohamad was not Persian, he was arab. 3) Islam never gave a fuck about the lucky 5 feet SHORT, HOMOSEXUAL macedonian. 4) Fix your English spelling ERRORS they are funny. 5) DON'T you EVER forget this VIDEO!!! AHa, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha..................LOL
AryanSurenPahlav 2 years ago
i'm sorry I just assumed with your hatred for jews that you where a muslim. And I'm sorry for any misspellings.. English isn't my first language =) Why do you bash people who dissagree with you? fact: persia has been conquered many times. ergo not the best army(s) in the world. yet youre some kind of fanatic who dissregards history and whatever historic facts there is you squize them into fitting your world view of persian and world history. where the persians are supreme in every aspect.
Dorrzo 2 years ago
Dear Dorzzo, I do not bash people, I am just sharing historical FACTS which are NEVER heard by IGNORANT western world! If it bothers you, I am SORRY! The TRUTH is the TRUTH, & I will never back down from the TRUTH. I LOVE real Jewish people & deeply resent Zionist rulers of Israel, & Jewish owners of Hollywood, & 95% of U.S media! UNLIKE you I have deep respect for REAL Greeks, & of course Romans as I am half Italian. But I know IRANIAN history extremely well & will inform the misinformed!
AryanSurenPahlav 2 years ago
One more thing Dorzzo: "Don't you EVER forget this Video"! Aha, ha, ha, ha, ha, LOL
YOU just PROVED, & revealed your HATRED for Iran & its history with your meaningless childish remarks! NOW that I know it, why should I WASTE my time teaching you precious information about history! Instead, LET the GAME BEGIN!
So tell me Dorzzo the size of the curvature of your ASS, is it as round and chubby as greek Homosexual soldiers who use to sleep together & have anal sex orgy? How about PEDERASTY? LOL
AryanSurenPahlav 2 years ago
Actually the name was "IRAN ESPAHBOD SUREN PAHLAV", meaning Iran's supreme general Suren Pahlav. This is a magnificent video of TRUE (Aryan) Iranian history. We love you Suren Pahlav.
AryanSurenPahlav 2 years ago
He mispronounses the pronounciation of Iran!!!!!!!!!
IranianBloodMoney 2 years ago
Zindibad Parthia :P
AryaMithra 2 years ago
Is that an episode of a series? If so what is its name?
tnb35 2 years ago
Terry! Terry! Terry!
englishfrenchgerman 2 years ago
awesome video !!!!!!!!!!!
oceanbound222 2 years ago
roman empire had a great civilisation for sure, plz dont insult roman civilisation, dont be like arabs, respect other cultures :)
gimmenick 2 years ago
i agree with that, thats why persians still respect greeks today, even though we fought, and we conquered them and they conquered us, it was with respect.
nyccarini 2 years ago
Greek and persian culture were mixed together aftter alexander the great but it didn't last for long since persia was retaken by persians and greece was conquered by romans easily, because they couldn't take on persia because they knew nothing about the persian culture, lifestyle, armies, tactics. Persia is the most long lasting empire with different people ruling like parthians and sasadins but still (persian).
FreedomFighter08 2 years ago