Rassilon not being red-head? It was never mentioned he was red-head. Also, the Doctor wanting to be ginger has nothing to do with Rassilon?
I could go on but I've made my point.
Also, where was it mentioned that Daleks "won" the Time War (or is this another thing people are assuming just so they can hate RTD)? I thought the Daleks & Time Lords were at a stand-still with the war ending with the Doctor destroyed the Daleks and the Time Lords.
I get the feeling that too many people here hate RTD and therefore try to criticize every little detail even without cause.
The narrator (Timothy Dalton's character) being Rassilon? I believe it. He was the founder and was thought of as a great man. I'm guessing that the Time Lords needed some help so they decide to resurrect the great Rassilon like they resurrected the Master.
Great ending to part 1 of the End of Time but it's a shame Davies used the Time Lords return just for a great cliffhanger instead of actually doing something with them. End of Time showcased the best and worst of Doctor Who under Russell T. Davies.
this is not the rassilon of the doctor who universe, the real rassilon is a man of wisdom and insight i dont care what anyone says including russel t davies THAT IS NOT THE REAL RASSILON no timelord would have brought out rassilon from the matrix since he would have crushed the daleks ended the time war and restored gallifrey. the daleks could never threaten timelords the sontarans tried to take over gallifrey in the invasion of time but, rassilon deafeated them by using the doctor.
@doctorw2 I think Dalton's character was just the current Lord President and The Doctor called him "Rassilon" either out of mockery, sarcasm, or an attempt at a guilt trip.
@junior2004hasz no russel t davies said in his book that this was the rassilon of old which is rubbish becuase rassilon did not look like this in the old time he is supposed to have red hair! the mark of a time sensative thats why the doctor always wants to be ginger. anyway the rassilon of old was not a tyrant although some criminal minded time lords who wanted his power for themselves depicted him that way.
@junior2004hasz I thank god that russel t davies brought back doctor who becuase i really wanted it to be brought back to television but, i hate him for making doctor who into a romance soap opera, the only thing about moffat is that hes treating doctor who like a fairy tale drama and thats not good but, i prefer him to russel t davies.
@doctorw2 Couldn't they have resurrected him with new regenerations like the Master? When the Time War came up they brought back the Master to be a fighter, why not bring back the greatest leader they ever had?
@troublemakir this is one of those russel t davies plot holes the entire time war scenerio is absurd daleks defeating timelords? absurd a timelord having the guts to ressurect rassilon? absurd they were terrorfied of rassilon and rassilon protected gallifrey from invaders while his conciousness lingered in gallifreys death zone so the entire time war thing is complete nonsense.
@doctorw2 I figured the Daleks defeated the Time Lords because throughout the old show they were obsessed with copying the time lords and getting ahold of time travel, eventually they got good enough at it to beat the Time Lords who were too arrogant to think that these pathetic mutants could ever harm them.
Of course it makes no sense chronologically from our perspective. The idea that the Time Lords could ever be defeated hinges on them being flawed, failing to use their technology wisely.
@troublemakir thats not true the daleks time travel was still decades behind the timelords thats why in the new series the daleks stole timelord technology to time travel only the timelords hold the deep secrets to time and space travel thats why they were feared among all the aliens in the universe and were the most advanced species in the cosmos. rassilon was the most powerful timelord of all feared by all other timelords. lawrence miles war in heaven scenerio is way better than this time war.
@doctorw2 The Timelords weren't the ones feared, the Doctor was because he kept interfering. The Time Lords were pacifistic to the point of indolence (School Reunion), they had the superior technology but they had long forgotten how to think tactically and couldn't imagine the Daleks being able to invade them. The Daleks had numbers and ruthlessness, by the time the Gallifreyans could react the Daleks already had them on the ropes, forcing them to resurrect Rassilon in order to survive.
@FerretJohn the celestis were not pacifists and they were timelords and rassilon protected the entire planet from attacks within the dark tower on gallifrey and the timelords feared rassilon more than they feared anybody even the many gallifreyan boogymen of timelord legend. russel t davies messed up badly daleks defeating timelords is ridiculous and was just an excuse to have a story line for series 1-4 of doctor who. lawrence miles war in heaven story is way better but too complex for tv.
@doctorw2 ok, how about this then. Ever hear the term 'rivet-counting'? It's the habit of focusing so much on minor details (like plot points now vs those from 35 years ago) that you completely lose sight of the story itself. Rivet-counters, aka uber-nerds, tend to get mocked and laughed at, and they have every reason to be. Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things. Just enjoy the show.
This guy is playing an arrogant immortal dictastor who has named any significant artifact on his home planet named after himself and probably threw a comerade into a black hole to have all the glory for himself.
OF COURSE he spits.
I like how he has something roman-emperor-ish about him, it's just so RIGHT for this role.
I'm not impressed with the spitt... One can thought it may be disgusting, but I totally disagree. It gives a more dramatical tone to the scene, is not it?
What really impressed me is his teeth... Is there no whitening products in England?
@biboca68 lol and btw remember Matt Smith's 1st scene? he spat in the TARDIS (some parts of the collapsing tardis got in his mouth, the scene was good, can't be repeated (don't have another tardis set to catch on fire) so they let it, and it was in the same episode, tough in part 2)
@beignet58 I agree! You comment reminds me of a brilliant UCLA English professor I once had who during passionate moments reciting text from Dr. Johnson or Shakespeare would always spit! The front row in class was soon known as the spit zone!
Same experience on the other side of the pond! :-)))
Theatre actors spit because they must enunciate and project their voice in order to be heard by the whole audience even when they whisper, So they must keep their throats and mouths moist all the time, or they could cough or lose their voice in mid-performance. The same applies to opera singers.
But then, the whole idea of the theatre is that you don't have close-ups...
I remember when I first saw this. I was giddy.
toastknight 2 weeks ago
he spits alot lmao he would have been a great doctor 20 yrs ago so would richard e grant
xanderkhaan1 1 month ago
This was the best 'next time' trailer from the new gen doctor who series.
Also it was the biggest waste of a storyline i've ever seen, the writers really failed with delivering it.
chrislaa90 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
didnt you know the only way to speak awesome in acting you have to spit! ;D
*wipes 3 layers of Rasslion spit from face*
0:25 Well obivious you can totally see me in the Bottom right on the last platform at the edge.... yeh thats me.. n.n Jks.
PeppyDoABarrelRoll 1 month ago
This was one of the BEST CLIFFHANGERS EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MysteriousStrangerJS 1 month ago
Rassilon not being red-head? It was never mentioned he was red-head. Also, the Doctor wanting to be ginger has nothing to do with Rassilon?
I could go on but I've made my point.
Also, where was it mentioned that Daleks "won" the Time War (or is this another thing people are assuming just so they can hate RTD)? I thought the Daleks & Time Lords were at a stand-still with the war ending with the Doctor destroyed the Daleks and the Time Lords.
mitmfan 2 months ago
I get the feeling that too many people here hate RTD and therefore try to criticize every little detail even without cause.
The narrator (Timothy Dalton's character) being Rassilon? I believe it. He was the founder and was thought of as a great man. I'm guessing that the Time Lords needed some help so they decide to resurrect the great Rassilon like they resurrected the Master.
mitmfan 2 months ago
just too good,everytime..:)
MyGary1975 2 months ago
Yes, spitting does increase dramatic impact, just ask Leonidas in 300. Be sure to have a hanky when he yells "THIS IS SPARTA!"
FerretJohn 3 months ago
@0:17 the Time Lord behind Rassilon on the left side does a little air punch on 'For Gallifrey!'
troublemakir 3 months ago
When I saw this scene for the first time, I had a spittake with popcorn with the "For the end of time itself!"
That's good acting!
iammjolnir 3 months ago
You enunciate by spitting! watch?v=FETSZEuCUao
killabean 3 months ago
He is so hot for a guy older than me. When you are working hard trying to give lines some power, it makes up for the spitting.
doctorarb 4 months ago
Timothy Dalton is just too god-damned awesome. British Secret Service agent turned supermarket owner turned Leader of the Time Lords.
blackyoshi1230 4 months ago 2
This scene is among my fav in the whole series. And Timothy Dalton is seriously one of the last great shakespearian actors.
ScotchCuresAll 5 months ago 6
@ScotchCuresAll Timothy Dalton just seems so natural in that role...it was like he wasn't acting, but had stoped acting.
74dormoth 4 months ago 2
Eww he spits
whade62000 6 months ago
looks liek the imperial senate
royalb8man 6 months ago
Funny it does look like the camera was lined up to get a spitty shot.
RaptureFilmz 6 months ago
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chuchotarantino 6 months ago
Raz was in the Dark Tower, maybe they brought him back/
Timelord114 7 months ago
The Spit of Rassilon! Epic, who would want that?
Press 3 repeatively for the "Srecha of Rassilon"
Press 4 for the TimeLords cheering on Time United
Timelord114 7 months ago
Timothy Dalton. Wow. First James Bond, then Hot Fuzz and now Dr Who!
He appeared in all my favourite series! (And Hot Fuzz, wich wasn't a serie but was bloody funny)
BloodyBart888 7 months ago 4
@BloodyBart888 Don't forget Flash Gordon.
pandaphil 4 months ago
yes
badgerboyUK 7 months ago
galactic senate anyone?
trema006 8 months ago
Best scene in the new DW. Too bad the Timelords were only good for a double episode. I'd love to see more of Lord Rassaliva's epic speech.
xservintage 8 months ago 5
If there was ever an hour-long "State of the Time Lords" speech on Gallifrey, everyone would be drowning in The Spit of Rassilon. XD
gngch 8 months ago 7
Doesn't anyone else notice that Timothy Dalton is also Alexi on 'Chuck' ?
4forevergirl4 9 months ago 2
@4forevergirl4 In one of the early Chuck episodes he was in (I can't remember which one), I saw him spit again!
lindarahldeen 8 months ago
Aw Yeah! this cliff hanger was one of the greatest middle fingers to Doctor Who fans the world over.
ThePlaidman1985 9 months ago 5
Great ending to part 1 of the End of Time but it's a shame Davies used the Time Lords return just for a great cliffhanger instead of actually doing something with them. End of Time showcased the best and worst of Doctor Who under Russell T. Davies.
DrachirLoyah 9 months ago 5
i wish there was a Repeat option :D
Yoda366 10 months ago 5
this is not the rassilon of the doctor who universe, the real rassilon is a man of wisdom and insight i dont care what anyone says including russel t davies THAT IS NOT THE REAL RASSILON no timelord would have brought out rassilon from the matrix since he would have crushed the daleks ended the time war and restored gallifrey. the daleks could never threaten timelords the sontarans tried to take over gallifrey in the invasion of time but, rassilon deafeated them by using the doctor.
doctorw2 1 year ago
@doctorw2 I think Dalton's character was just the current Lord President and The Doctor called him "Rassilon" either out of mockery, sarcasm, or an attempt at a guilt trip.
junior2004hasz 9 months ago
@junior2004hasz no russel t davies said in his book that this was the rassilon of old which is rubbish becuase rassilon did not look like this in the old time he is supposed to have red hair! the mark of a time sensative thats why the doctor always wants to be ginger. anyway the rassilon of old was not a tyrant although some criminal minded time lords who wanted his power for themselves depicted him that way.
doctorw2 9 months ago
@doctorw2 RTD was an idiot. Moffat any better ? you decide.
junior2004hasz 9 months ago
@junior2004hasz I thank god that russel t davies brought back doctor who becuase i really wanted it to be brought back to television but, i hate him for making doctor who into a romance soap opera, the only thing about moffat is that hes treating doctor who like a fairy tale drama and thats not good but, i prefer him to russel t davies.
doctorw2 9 months ago
@doctorw2 Couldn't they have resurrected him with new regenerations like the Master? When the Time War came up they brought back the Master to be a fighter, why not bring back the greatest leader they ever had?
troublemakir 3 months ago
@troublemakir this is one of those russel t davies plot holes the entire time war scenerio is absurd daleks defeating timelords? absurd a timelord having the guts to ressurect rassilon? absurd they were terrorfied of rassilon and rassilon protected gallifrey from invaders while his conciousness lingered in gallifreys death zone so the entire time war thing is complete nonsense.
doctorw2 3 months ago
@doctorw2 I figured the Daleks defeated the Time Lords because throughout the old show they were obsessed with copying the time lords and getting ahold of time travel, eventually they got good enough at it to beat the Time Lords who were too arrogant to think that these pathetic mutants could ever harm them.
Of course it makes no sense chronologically from our perspective. The idea that the Time Lords could ever be defeated hinges on them being flawed, failing to use their technology wisely.
troublemakir 3 months ago
@troublemakir thats not true the daleks time travel was still decades behind the timelords thats why in the new series the daleks stole timelord technology to time travel only the timelords hold the deep secrets to time and space travel thats why they were feared among all the aliens in the universe and were the most advanced species in the cosmos. rassilon was the most powerful timelord of all feared by all other timelords. lawrence miles war in heaven scenerio is way better than this time war.
doctorw2 3 months ago
@doctorw2 The Timelords weren't the ones feared, the Doctor was because he kept interfering. The Time Lords were pacifistic to the point of indolence (School Reunion), they had the superior technology but they had long forgotten how to think tactically and couldn't imagine the Daleks being able to invade them. The Daleks had numbers and ruthlessness, by the time the Gallifreyans could react the Daleks already had them on the ropes, forcing them to resurrect Rassilon in order to survive.
FerretJohn 3 months ago
@FerretJohn the celestis were not pacifists and they were timelords and rassilon protected the entire planet from attacks within the dark tower on gallifrey and the timelords feared rassilon more than they feared anybody even the many gallifreyan boogymen of timelord legend. russel t davies messed up badly daleks defeating timelords is ridiculous and was just an excuse to have a story line for series 1-4 of doctor who. lawrence miles war in heaven story is way better but too complex for tv.
doctorw2 3 months ago
@doctorw2 ok, how about this then. Ever hear the term 'rivet-counting'? It's the habit of focusing so much on minor details (like plot points now vs those from 35 years ago) that you completely lose sight of the story itself. Rivet-counters, aka uber-nerds, tend to get mocked and laughed at, and they have every reason to be. Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things. Just enjoy the show.
FerretJohn 3 months ago
This guy is playing an arrogant immortal dictastor who has named any significant artifact on his home planet named after himself and probably threw a comerade into a black hole to have all the glory for himself.
OF COURSE he spits.
I like how he has something roman-emperor-ish about him, it's just so RIGHT for this role.
KendrixTermina 1 year ago 4
Omega volunteered to pilot the ship into the super nova just so he could get away from the spit.
tf2whackyengineer 1 year ago
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tf2whackyengineer 1 year ago
On this week's Chuck he spat too!
TheDoctorTL3 1 year ago
Man, he's like a Llama! Look at him GO!
JustAnAverageKid 1 year ago
This day was the day upon wich the whole of creation would change forever!
This was the day, the Time Lords returned!
For Gallifrey
(chorus) For Gallifrey
For Vic(spi)tory
(chorus) For Victory
For the End Of Time its(pit)elf
(chorus) For the End Of Time Itself
TheDoctorTL3 1 year ago 6
He's well hydrated and salivating over impending victory, is all.
ehcmier 1 year ago
I shat a brick when I saw this.
Meshakhad 1 year ago 4
Reminds me of the Roy Hattersley character from spitting image, spitting every where.
womblediehard 1 year ago
I've wanted to take this scene, get a group of people to sound like the timelord council.
For galifrey
FOR GALIFREY
For victory!
FOR VICTORY
For the end of time itself!
*Chorus* Say it don't spray it!
tf2whackyengineer 1 year ago
I'm not impressed with the spitt... One can thought it may be disgusting, but I totally disagree. It gives a more dramatical tone to the scene, is not it?
What really impressed me is his teeth... Is there no whitening products in England?
biboca68 1 year ago
@biboca68 lol and btw remember Matt Smith's 1st scene? he spat in the TARDIS (some parts of the collapsing tardis got in his mouth, the scene was good, can't be repeated (don't have another tardis set to catch on fire) so they let it, and it was in the same episode, tough in part 2)
TheDoctorTL3 1 year ago
XD!!
Pacorocks411 1 year ago
I just saw this episode for the first time the other day and thought exactly the same thing. I'm glad I'm not the only person out there that noticed.
jojopet 1 year ago
remember the Friends episode where Gary Oldman spits? a great actor SPITS! lol
PurpleZebrafication 1 year ago
All thespians spit, what's the big deal? Laurence Olivier did it a lot. That's because they speak, instead of mumbling...
beignet58 1 year ago 5
@beignet58 Why is there a *P*icture of *P*olyanna in your *P*ACK!?
*P*icture?... What *P*icture?....*Pth*
tf2whackyengineer 1 year ago
@beignet58 I agree! You comment reminds me of a brilliant UCLA English professor I once had who during passionate moments reciting text from Dr. Johnson or Shakespeare would always spit! The front row in class was soon known as the spit zone!
miapatagonia 6 months ago
@miapatagonia
Same experience on the other side of the pond! :-)))
Theatre actors spit because they must enunciate and project their voice in order to be heard by the whole audience even when they whisper, So they must keep their throats and mouths moist all the time, or they could cough or lose their voice in mid-performance. The same applies to opera singers.
But then, the whole idea of the theatre is that you don't have close-ups...
beignet58 6 months ago
That's what dentures do..
sp0ng 1 year ago
hell yea it does!
1rebelboy 2 years ago 32
Lol, I noticed that XD.
Haven37 2 years ago
awesome
cool777man 2 years ago
That was SO hot
Reklawniks 2 years ago 53
Are you mental?
Spong1975 2 years ago 15