911 Conspiracy - no 2008 election -- Blackwater

[zacksethandy]

wow dont you feel, and look like a fucking idiot right now.

[lat1llas]

its 10-1-09 and they occured bro

[krsnaji]

good.. your are waking up

[911Shaman]

I'm a political satirist. I found a connection between 9/11 Truthers & YouTube Yahweh Clan.

YTYC are a sub-byproduct (orts & rines) of the 9/11 Truth Movement's paranoid crusade against a supposed Zionist New World Order take-over.

YTYC are into quasi-religio-political anarchy just like "9/11 Truthers".

YTYC is an organized group of criminals who are made up of 9/11 conspiracy nuts, racists, pedophiles & hater mongers making death threats on a daily basis on You Tube using fake accounts.

[tumormeister]

@911Shaman

I don't know anything about this Yahweh clan, but the U.S. Government did attack U.S. citizens on 9-11.

watch this video

watch?v=U0GW6QXKyp0

Did Bin Laden demolish World Trade Center Building 7? Not likely.

[jenzezo]

citizens...arm yourselves!!!

[noisecape]

liberals piss me off. Always ranting about freedom, yet they play by the elite's rules and participate in the elite's system of control.

sigh. break free.

[noisecape]

I'm sorry, but what a joke the whole 'no election' thing was!!!

Whilst the tinfoil hatters were screaming that there wouldn't be an election, anyone with a brain in their head knew fine well that Obama would be put in charge, and ANYONE with a brain will also tell you that Obama is gonna be WAY WAY WAY worse than Bush. Another NWO deception goes through without a hitch and the tin foilers are wrong again....

[robchip1]

well you got all that wrong

[bdyer20]

If you were in Israel and a nation bent on wiping you off the planet from day one of your nations history you would do anything to keep nuclear weapons away from that nation.

[noisecape]

yawn. He called for Israel to disband, he didnt say he was gnna wipe it out.

or can you ACTUALLY translate arabic to english? of course not, didn't think so.

[bdyer20]

If you have doubts about 9/11 check out the work done by Popular Science who in fact did investigate the theories and did see the debris and talked to experts in many fields which absolutely disprove any theory of a conspiracy. You people just are in a panic about conspiracies that aren't there.

[chrispyt77]

How did building 7 fall straight down and so completely?

Why did the twin towers explode and disintegrate into sectioned steel and concrete dust?

Do you believe in the Warren commission and magic bullets?

Question Authority.

Question Orthodoxy.

[pkilly126]

Amen brother, yes although this guys obviously wrong there are still very valid points & concerns to raise in regards to 9/11. Bottom line is the "conspiracy" pretty much as told in Alex Jones' Martial Law 9/11:Rise of the Police State is more logical and answers more than the flip-flop irrational/illogical explanation given by"mainstream" sources.OBJECTIVITY is the gold standard we need to measure all else from. In philosophy the concept of DIALECTICS is to fully CONSIDER ALL SIDES & SYNTHESIZE

[pkilly126]

to demonstrate some people act as though A.Jones could do no wrong, he's got a "filter" too so it would be idiotic to think you're informed just b/c you heard lots you never heard prior. I personally love the man but I don't take everything at face value I process it for myself and get many sources MAINSTREAM INCLUDED! that's the only way to get the whole picture people that's why they run our lives because we're divided IF ONLY MY LIBS GOT IN.. IF ONLY MY CONS GOT IN BLAH BLAH. WAKE THE FUCK UP

[tracytemple0]

How WRONG all you paranoid androids are!! All the votes have been counted and verified, the democrats have won

[fritoz2007]

They happened. And apparently still going on. What do you say now?

[mauricepeyton]

The elections are tomorrow. The only way the elections get cancelled would be for something phenominal to occur within the next few hours.

[LinkinSwordSlayer]

The 2008 election has been stopped because a guy by the name of Phillip Berg wants to see Obama's birth certificate to see rather he is a born US citizen or not. It has been taken to the supreme court and Obama won't be in the elections until the problem is resolved.

[wake2thareal]

i thought they made a ship out of the...wreckage

[glasspig]

liberal.

how original.

[msohhlala]

i'm feeling naughty at the moment U

[itsmeriches]

this guy has African bloOd. look at his nose.

[RamblinGirl57]

There are alot of conspiracy theories out there If you look at how some of the laws have changed and now with this stock market nose dive it makes me think that something is going on. I say go with your gut feeling it's usually right!

[Chrisky81]

Dear Up

I appreciate your ruminations on these subjects. No doubt you are watching matters unfold.

Watching the CT docs "Zeitgeist," "Zeitgeist: Addendum," "In Plane Site," "Improbable Collapse," "The Great Conspiracy," "Loose Change," does not mean anyone has to ACCEPT their conclusions. The internet is still free, and information is still out there to be evaluated calmly and rationally. The wise would take advantage of this window BEFORE it closes. Forewarned is forearmed.

Peace

[Balthazr]

Its really important to keep an open mind about these sorts of things, even if you're not a conspiracy believer

[rikcab]

grow up Fools!

[redletterchurch]

The important thing is to ask a lot of questions in a responsible and civil manner. If there are no problems, and everything is fine...then the questions should be easy to answer. If there are problems...the squirming, name-calling, and censorship should make it obvious that there are potentially huge problems. The preservation and observance of the US Constitution is the key issue. Read the Federalist Papers. It can be tough going...but it is worth the effort.

[doxielady24]

I heard an interesting thing on the radio the other day indicating that the economic crisis is a ploy. Meaning Bush is using it to make sure he can take over and cancel the 2008 election. I was half-asleep so I didn't hear all the arguments about it. It sounded frighteningly possible to me.

[atvdude1000]

BROTHER!!! I am just DAMN GLAD that there are others thinking JUST LIKE ME!!

I am with your line of thought.. and your feelings.. ONE HUNDRED PERCENT!!!

What do we do now?.......

[tracehd1]

concerning New Orleans.. Blackwater troops kept people from going in to help those that needed help..water, blankets,food,meds..etc.. with guns!!!!! They also stopped people from crossing over bridges to get out!!

[josh2012]

when martial law takes place dont ask questions dont hesistate just shoot them

[PhillipOrion]

911 is a conspiracy. One person didn't do it alone. People conspired to make it happen.

[RichRobinson]

agreed. well put. thanks.

[BW525]

That's 7 minutes and 41 seconds of my life I'd like back....

[ibmforce]

Sounds like your waking up. Good Morning. . . The real world is waiting for you . . .WARNING!!! It would probably make you feel better to go back to sleep. The "world" is not as you think it is, but the truth shall set you free. Search out the truth...

[ScKid15]

true thats true

[jasminedejon2]

i so agree with you..

[hdaman]

dude really you are boring..

[sbajrai]

we know bush is a Dumb ass. What does it makes the believing american people?

[110SIX110]

Even bigger dumbasses!

[SCOBMAN]

Conspiracy theories now conspiracy facts.

Its not enough to "just not know"

INFOWARS with alex jones keeps us updated to the minute on what we must know as the documented facts.

alex's projections all keep coming true, there isnt much time to waste being scared, little time left to take the correct action of getting the word out and saving our country.

There are no doubts in my mind.

[joshkat29]

9-11 was staged so that you would freely give up your rights i.e. free speech ZONES,FISA,etc. wake up people the only terrorist is g.w.b.also so youd go along with this bullshit war

[maglaj1]

martial law is coming

[maglaj1]

you dont know shit you are so dumb man you are lost YOU ARE BRAINWASHED BY YOUR GOVERNMENT!

[maglaj1]

bush wont get out of office dumbass you got everything wrong man pull your head out of your ass swallow your pride king bush will be last elected president of the USA!

[Comrade1919]

I don't think I'd say that you're a conspiracy theorist, just for believing that some of these things may actually occur. I'd just call you someone with enough common sense to realize that our government's lied and done terrible things before, and that there's nothing preventing it from doing the same in the future.

[ItalianStallionette]

Buildning 7 had the bomb squad telling to to leave the area, and the building was going to also be brought down. If we were under attack, there is NO WAY they could continue it. Anyways, it's listed as destroyed from the attackes. The whole is a lie. I love this video. You're talking about my favorite things. I'm a conspiracy whore.

[UpDownMostly]

"a conspiracy whore" ROFL Well, there's many of them out there!

[craigowler]

911 was either a conspiracy or a coincidence.

Coincidence (?) That two guys oblivious to one another and anyone else, took it upon themselves to hijack an aircraft from Boston and caused them to be flown into the WTC

[TheFreeThoughtPolice]

Who said it was two guys oblivious to one another? The official claim is 12 guys isn't it and that it was coordinated and planned for years.

[craigowler]

Since 9/11 several theories have been put forward that the attack was a conspiracy. Whereas many commentators deny there was a conspiracy. It takes at least two to conspire and there is no doubt in my mind that a conspiracy took place. Who/what initiated the conspiracy remains open for debate. The official claim is for 12 guys -an estimate. Where did that come from?

[TheFreeThoughtPolice]

Now my final comment on this is that the full range of topics Icke is known for do matter, his claims of the fantastic matter a great deal because they tell us a lot about this man and what motivates him.

Icke is selling products not truth.

I think it is unfortunate that if Tim wanted to discuss 911 alternate theories that he posted a link to a video of this guy. I have been doing this sort of thing for 25 years, I know a bit about it and I am harsh when I think someone is a total fraud.

[UpDownMostly]

I appreciate your candid and honest observations. I picked this guy because he's one of the video series I've seen that does have some puzzling information contained in his videos. I still do not accept that anyone could have orchestrated 9-11 so we could go in to Iraq or consolidate power in the White House.

[TheFreeThoughtPolice]

People who tour in support of theories like this prepare multi-media presentations in a way to show yo just enough to seem to connect dots that don't connect at all in light of full presentation of ALL the evidence.

This is by design.

It is good to look at all kinds of information and points of view keeping in mind that people try to manipulate you constantly. That is not always bad but if you know how it is done you can evaluate information critically.

[TheFreeThoughtPolice]

This election will be canceled claim has been around a few times now, 1998 I heard it extreme right wing circles and it came up in 2004 and now again.

I am pointing gout these things are not new just recycled and they were wrong before and likely, VERY likely wrong again.

I am very familiar with RazzQ's claims this video has been up for awhile, these acts he discusses are similar to the ones people cited when claiming Clinton would not leave office. Again goggle it if you think I am wrong.

[UpDownMostly]

Oh I don't doubt the election will happen. But I do wonder if people realize how much consolidation of power has occurred in the recent past. I mean honestly, if the President wants to declare a martial law state and turn everything over to FEMA or HS then I don't see much to stop them.

[TheFreeThoughtPolice]

Right, my point is not to say nothing Razz states is true but it is to get people to look closer at how long this has been around.

he is fairly specific in some places in his video so it can be followed up on and you can find out if he is telling you the truth about the various laws and acts or not. The question then is are his conclusions correct in the face of the evidence?

This scenario has been suggested many times and has not happened so that is worth keeping in mind.

[MarksCoffeehouse]

I'm not ready to buy the 9/11 conspiracies but they sure exploited the daylights out of it. In the 2004 election cycle Sean Hannity stated that is we were attacked the elections should be postponed. Sounded like a trial balloon to me. The irony is that if the elections were delayed, Bush would have lost, maybe, since many suspect he lost anyway. Blackwater are the Neocon storm troopers. I don't trust these guys, they're sick and un-American as it gets.

[AuroraKismet]

The elections will take place.The criminals who run this war will not allow anything to disrupt their profits.

[alnewberry]

That sounds more like an argument FOR those aforementioned criminals to stage something as an exuse to cancel elections and stay in power.

[AuroraKismet]

No,because a slave owner doesn't want slaves in revolt.So,keep them fed and amused with bread&circuses.Promise them new saviours like Obama when they get disenchanted. Same ol' dialectic at work....just my thoughts,no claim to being a seer.

[alnewberry]

Understood, but the American people have so far swallowed every bit of propaganda thrown our way. I could see enough of the "slaves" falling for the "temporary emergency measure" propaganda if our alleged leaders chose to do something like that.

[AuroraKismet]

Sad but true,too many do fall for the propaganda.Just reading the comments here,you see those who ridicule anyone who dares to question the official 9/11 story.Senator Arlen Specter&the Warren Commission did their job well.Question what the government says or does,you're labelled "a conspiracy theorist".

I refuse to do that to my fellow Americans.

So I don't believe that the election will be cancelled?That doesn't make them a nut.

Their fear has a basis in fact.

I hope for the best,Al.

[TheFreeThoughtPolice]

I think you need to consider that I am questioning David Icke who thinks there are shape shifting reptilians running things.

OK so if you want to defend nutters like Icke then go right ahead but he is a loon, and he is the guy in the Video Tim had the misfortune of paying any attention to. Anyone who believes him needs to find out who he is and what he is about. It goes to his credibility.

JFK and shooters in drains would be a topic for another time and has nothing to do with what I said.

[AuroraKismet]

Didn't single you out,sir.Why do you feel the need to go on the attack?

[TheFreeThoughtPolice]

I don't see many comments other than mine suggesting these theories might be nonsense so there is that.

And since when is making statements to the contrary someone's view an attack?

I think people need to get past these simplistic ways of looking at discussions.

[AuroraKismet]

Look back at your comment& mine to Al.Check your tone.I never mentioned reptilians or shooters in a drain to Al. Name calling is simplistic,i.e."nutter","loon" "conspiracy theorist",etc... That is why the phrase was introduced into the American lexicon ;to limit inquiry,to demonise,to stifle discussion and keep it at a simplistic level. I refuse to employ such tactics on those with whom I disagree.Intellectual snobbery profits nothing.

[TheFreeThoughtPolice]

The discussion is of a video of David Icke, Icke introduced the idea of reptilians.

I will withdraw my description of Icke as a nutter, loon, conspiracy theorist, fraud, fake charlatan, con artist and purveyor of utter nonsense if he comes up with proof that there are shape-shifting reptilians.

Until such a miracle is accomplished I stand by my descriptions of Icke and that is who I am talking about lets not be confused here. He makes extraordinary claims that need extraordinary evidence.

[UpDownMostly]

Do you have other video references or information that you deem more credible or plausible for review. I'm just trying to get people to understand that when it comes to this world, all is not what it seems. Now, this Icke guy may be looney and if so, well I made a bad choice of videos to reference. Just trying to get people to think is all, including myself.

[TheFreeThoughtPolice]

UDM, the problem with conspiracy theories is they tend to fall apart upon close cross examination of evidence, or claimed evidence.

As I stated early on in my comments look up the fire at McCormick Place in Chicago. Bay bridge fire in 2007 I believe also may give you insight into steel structures failing in fires.

Thinking is good, I pay attention to these things because once in awhile things are not what they appear I just don't think 911 and the WTC are one of those times.

[blackbirdsinging68]

Ignorant people like you will prove to be the downfall of the human race.

[TheFreeThoughtPolice]

Welcome to this conversation as late as you may be.

Upon further consideration you are correc,

Imagine my ignorance in thinking reason and evidence should matter to thinking Americans. How silly of me.

[Lethesunshine]

Tim, your thoughts are well founded. Thanks for the links!

~Mimi

[truevoiceofsanity]

Lol!!!!!!!!!!! Did you read the 911 report.

Anyway, sorry, with great respect to your military service, why can't Americans accept the OBVIOUS.

Security got lax, terrorists got luck.

Well admit, some of constitutional changes sound wrong. Have to heard details.

USA CANNOT Invade IRAN. Really think about it? They can't, iran knows it. You have had elections during war. Fight for your constitution but ... dont worry yet.

[ThinkingTooMuch]

"USA CANNOT Invade IRAN. Really think about it? They can't..

Oh YES THEY CAN & WILL. Read what I said earlier on.

[mymoosejaw]

Well I don't think that 911 was done by the US government, but I think they knew full well it was going to happen.

[KabulaIsTrying]

No need for martial law for reasons I stated in 2)

[mymoosejaw]

No kidding, this making people vanish shit is a bit too much as well.

[KabulaIsTrying]

Predictions based on internet info:

1) Election will take place. It's fixed! John McCain WILL WIN. I said that for last 8 months. Its a 100% given. Not what voters may want.

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[KabulaIsTrying]

2) Israel and Iran have a go at it. We being bound by agreements use this as the backdoor excuse to go after Iran. It's Israel assignment to do so. That will hedge all bets no matter who gets the office. So therefore no need to forgo elections even if the McCain plan falls through. Obama should be ok because of this unless he doesn't do the Israel/Iran plans.

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[KabulaIsTrying]

3) FEMA has created detention camps all over the USA.. just in case American's wise up.

We've already lost control. Just nice to be 60 some and have sympathy for the naive youth who will have to face the major portion of this hell.

[TheFreeThoughtPolice]

Might interest you to know there were claims that Bill Clinton would declare martial law and stay in office. We know how that turned out so now the same people claim similar things about Bush, the 2000 election and so on and so on. So whatever... if Obonehead wins I guess we can count on formulation of how he is part of the Illuminati right? Because he is you know...

Nothing new, still full of crap.

[KabulaIsTrying]

This comment should have fell in response to 'TheFreeThoughtPolice'. YouTube screwed it up Or me. :)

No need for martial law for reasons I stated in 2)

[TheFreeThoughtPolice]

The fema concentration camp bullcrap also started when Clinton was in office.

Your answer 2 basically says nothing. You say the election is fixed and McCain will win uless Obama wins.

Nuff said.

This is the same kind of bull they claimed Clinton would do and NONE OF IT HAPPENED.

End of story.

[anmoose]

Weird thoughts indeed, but at this point in time I can no longer rule them out. We've lost control, and we may have lost the power to get it back.

And yes, I've started considering the possibility of a 911 conspiracy, which I'd refused to accept until this past year.

[ravensmomscorp76]

to anmoose:

I hope you don't mind me asking, but I am really curious to know: what made you change your mind this past year? (abt 9-11)

[anmoose]

It's resulted from piecing together the events and direction of the Bush regime since, as well as some of the warning signs prior to 911. It begins to take shape as the ultimate catalyst in the master plan. I'm not convinced, but I can no longer rule it out.

[TimberGeek]

This open relationship between Blackwater and the Federal Government is a very disturbing sign that we may have crossed a line we can't get back across.

[TheFreeThoughtPolice]

Conspiracy and claims to the extraordinary are things I know a lot about and it is frankly SAD so very SAD that otherwise intelligent people fall for this crap and continue to fall for it.

I can't even dignify this 911 bullshit anymore. McCormick Center in Chicago, and Steel structure very much like the floors in the WTC collapsed from fire. Look it up this stuff is bullshit.

The election bullshit is identical to the shit they said about Clinton not leaving also. Look it up.

[KabulaIsTrying]

Crap or seized opportunity. It worked out quit badly for the constitution. In the middle the truth?

All Saudi's. All friends of Bush's (Bin Laden Family). Security Co. in charge headed up by Bush's. Too many Bush's in the mix for my tastes.

Within hours Bush had Bin Laden family on a plane.

There's smoke there. Not saying the towers were done in by our own, but perhaps stepped a bit aside to foresee the possibility of it happening, will be forever a question in my mind.

[TheFreeThoughtPolice]

No it's total nonsense. Icke believes reptilian people are responsible for all that is wrong with the world so what more do I have to say about him?

He is so out there he is indefensible. If people don't know who he is I can excuse them taking him seriously. If they know who he is and still buy this then what can I say?

[kenrg]

Unfortunately, agreed. I've resisted all the 911 conspiracies, although some are very interesting, but I would not doubt that there are plans for an "October Surprise." I'm not quite ready to believe that we'd blow up our own economic resources, but that doesn't mean that I'm convinced that we still live in a democracy.

[l0gically]

I certainly have doubts about 9/11...no reason not to. One thing that has never been tested - just because the president says jump, doesn't mean anyone *has* to - especially the military. In fact, I'd like to think that if the men and women of the military are true patriots, it will do the right thing and render any such foolishness short-lived.

[twish1999]

I just got back from New York and it is so eerie standing looking at Ground Zero

x hugs x

[UpDownMostly]

When I went to 777 I made it a point to visit the site. It was very humbling and overpowering in so many ways.