He ordered the murders of us servicemen with the help of israel
youtube USS Liberty - these sailors are still seeking justice for being stabbed in the back by Johnson - they are still being ignored.
Lyndon B Johnson got the Israeli military to attack a US Naval vessel, to use it as a pretext to go to war with Egypt and blame it on them, it was a false flag
Johnson killed American Servicemen. Go research, it's all true.
i read that JFK sponsored the CIA led coup and the vietnamese generals decided to kill diem. yeah right, LBJ just fessed up. sort of like taking out gaddafi.
In point of fact, Kennedy agreed to Diem's removal, though not assassination and gave orders he was to be able to call it off at any momemt ... but the CIA and Ambassador Lodge by then were in near open revolt and not listening, so they did it their way and killed Diem and his brother, ushering in political instability, a much wider and more brutal war and again showing that we are ruled by thugs.
LBJ, Kennedy, and th eother leftists wanted to remove Diem he was a successful independent rightist who actually believed in fighting communism and protecting his country from it, he was not doing any "peace" deals with north vietnam kennedy wanted to force him to bow to hanoi and sabotage RVN's ability to defend itself from the atypical paused then continued communsit aggression, NVA was already entrenched in Laos and Cambodia killing civies there...
I sent an email after seeing Ted Kennedy make the same angry face I make just prior to his death via facebook. And after that I kept getting terrorized and attacked. My biological mother died in 1987, so I cannot ask her. And honestly after what they have put me thru, I would like to bury it all with him. But they keep attacking and terrorizing me. And have affected my Nursing Career of 20 years. And treated me like a prostitute and admitted to me that they pediphiled my children as well.
In 2004, I was told by my biological mother's family and friends that I could possibly be or was the biological daugther of one of the Kennedy's. And I look like them. And what I did was I ignored it for many years. I knew I would never be accepted and that I was probably one of many illegitimate children of one of them. How do I have a DNA test done about this? I have been terrorized and attacked about it, I think. IDK, what to do because they keep spying and attacking me. I need help.
Bobby was on target .. John, Robert, MLK, John jr., Diana, and many more all murdered by the same group working through what ever president was in power at the moment.
Read "JFK and the UNSPEAKABLE" for inside evidence on the Diem assassination that the REPUBLICAN ambassador to Vietnam arranged AGAINST the orders of JFK. The GOP is fill with deceitful liars and some Dems too like LBJ. The last good Republican president was Eisenhower and the last Christian one was Carter.
This is just ridiculous. For starters, LBJ wasn't president in October of 1963 when Diem was assassinated. John F. Kennedy was President and made these decisions. Its very clear from reviewing legitimate sources on the war such as "Vietnam" by Stanley Karnow that the US Government didn't want Diem dead, they wanted him out of power. We did support the coup that took place. Johnson is speaking in general terms. He's acknowledging a fact rather than stating responsibility. You are clueless.
@DragonSparky123666 LBJ was Vice President and desperately wanted JFK out of the way and RFK too. LBJ lied to America to officially start the war in Vietnam and he was happy to be rid of Diem so that could happen. Diem was trying to negotiate a peace with the Buddhists when he was assassinate. JFK told the Republican ambassador, Lodge,NOT to kill Diem but Lodge ordered it anyhow with strong backing from the CIA. LBJs main political support was Brown and Root aka HALLIBURTON, war mongers.
@OzzyFan87 Did you listen to the JFK Memoirs? He clearly talks about the coup, and did not say anything implicating him in the CIA sponsored assassination.
@jacobji5 Dude, he talks about the people in Washington who supported and did not support the coup. He then talks about suggesting a coup. He knew about it...
@OzzyFan87 Suggesting a coup does not imply "by murder". Coup's have been accomplished by moving the leader out to another country, or imprisonment. He knew about the Diem assassination after the fact.
Furthermore, I did watch the video: Hunt Diem. The CIA person Hunt clearly admitted the CIA did fabricate a story that Kennedy killed Diem. TIME, Inc. is a CIA rag used to wash it's dirty ass.
Knowing this and more about the CIA, Hunt, and TIME - you have only CIA lies against JFK.
CIA propaganda to make JFK look bad. CIA and Joint Chiefs supported built up and supported Diem's dictatorship so it could result commies. State wanted coup. JFK went along but doubted. One more reason why CIA wanted JFK dead. So the Shackley group got rid of JFK through the Cuban underground and mafia, who both worked for Shackley. Lots of hating on JFK always. But he was the last president to stand up to the CIA/ASC/Cercle network. LBJ reversed most JFK policy again in Africa, EU and such.
The American thought by killing Diem and having their own way of handling Vietnam is the best way but they don't understand the mentality of the Vietnamese which end up costing more than 58000 Precious lives.
The American thought by killing Diem and having their own way of handling Vietnam is the best way but they don't understand the mentality of the Vietnamese which end up costing more than 58000 Precious lives.
@ProtectYerAnus "This bastard LBJ was in the Diem assassination up to his lying eyeballs"
~ LBJ at VP had absolutely no power to influence foreign affairs. The 'Death of Diem' is attributed, was caused by and ordered by JFK personally. LBJ at the time was getting JFK's chestnuts out of the fire by working on the Moon Race with BTW was his idea to beat the Russians by coming up with quote JFK "a scientific bonanza to prove US world leadership"
This bastard LBJ was in the Diem assassination up to his lying eyeballs. He confessed to it on tape, saying “we” three times. Now I know the Kennedy conspiracy did happen. The fuckers in government. Just like the Nazi’s and other military dictatorships.
~ JFK's fundamental planning doc was 8/30/63 memo to Sec. of St. Dean Rusk from Roger Hilsman Assist Sec. St. for Far Eastern Affairs. It said : "We should encourage the coup group to destroy the palace if necessary to gain victory" & in point 10 it ordered the 'Death of Diem'. RFK to A. Schesinger "He (JFK) said it was a big mistake, it led us down a road in which we never fully recovered"
~ It caused such instability 56,000 ppl paid for JFK's boo-boo
Diem was a CIA puppet anyway, so I guess what the CIA did to him was their prerogative. Like a Dixie cup, once you're done with it, you crumple it and throw it away. This is a man who put his own people in concentration camps and ran his government into the ground, all with the express permission of the U.S., and they disposed of him when he became too crazy to serve his purpose.
Robert MacNamara in "Fog of War" (search Youtube for Before & After an Assassination) indicates that JFK was shocked when Diem was assassinated, because "he realized we must have had something to do with it" - in other words, it was done without the knowledge or consent of the Commander in Chief. There's a kind of coup right there.
Johnson was responsible for more than a dozen murders including his own sister. Watch "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" here on YouTube. Johnson was behind it all.
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"LBJ stood head and shoulders of Kennedy, both physically..." A little trivia: It's been a long time, but yes I read Johnson was 6'3", and Kennedy was 6'0". Johnson also had an almost fatal heart attack in 1955. I think that if he'd been re-elected, it would've quickly hastened the heart attack/failure that eventually took his life in '73. He died the year after Truman.
Also, did Johnson put vaseline in his hair to hold it down? To me, he looks kind of 'greasy' to me. I wouldn't be surprised as that was commonly done in that era. Even my dad wore it in his hair back then, and when he'd put his head back on the couch it would leave a stain, lol. In terms of accomplishment and vision: you mean Medicare and all the civil righs stuff. Then I agree.
Deserves more credit? Yes, maybe domestically. The JFK worshippers are like the Reagan worshippers because of each Prez's charisma/persona. My parents were in their late teens to about twenty when Kennedy was in, and they were just 'swept away' by Kennedy. I guess it was because they were young and impressionable. As (bad) luck would have it, Kennedy was killed the day before their wedding.
@GarryHarriman You talk like a low brow history fool. For better education go to the web page: LBJ and the Civil Rights Act - The Education Forum.
Sooner or later you must understand. Presidents are controlled. After reading this page, you begin to understand why Obama can not pull us out of the Mid-East. As for the assassinations of 3 well known men, you figure it out. They were perceive as sympathetic to communism. LBJ was a murderous asshole, with his own assassin, Malcolm Wallace.
Let's not forget that LBJ was the heavy weight majority Senate leader and JFK "stole" the presidential nomination from him. When the Kennedy brothers enjoyed tremendous power as President and Attorney General, they hardly hid their contempt towards LBJ and didn't think twice before humiliating him, and were getting ready to drop him in the next election. They never expected that the old boss would go so far ...
He doesn't mention JFK in this. Robert MacNamara in 'The Fog of War' says that neither he nor Kennedy had advance knowledge of Diem's overthrow and that Jack was angry.
I bet he was behind the assassination of JFK, he probably didn't like his plans for the U.S. so he had him killed in order for him to become president.
.....on Nov, 2, 1963. They (US) supported President Diem at first, when he told US Officers "The Vietnam problems only solve by Vietnamese, NO foreign countries involve" That Us planed to blames him as corruption and killed him. Since then until now the Vietnamese people do not have any good leader like him. Of course, the good people follow him also got killed. How US represent the WORLD LEADER OF FAIR and SQUARE"?
The mastermind JFK, Johnson, Henry Cabot Loge Jr., Lucien Emile Conein, and Al Spera. George Ball, Averell Harriman, N-Michael Forrestal, and Rogers Hilsman and the "thugs of SVN Army's Generals" These are war criminals who planed to coup the first Vietnam President Ngo Dinh Diem and his 2 brothers who against US to pour its troops into Vietnam. With the price $42,000.00 USD to kill the Good President on Nov, 2, 1963.
"I am not going to lose Vietnam. I am not going to be the President who saw Southeast Asia go the way China went." --Lyndon Johnson, quoted by Tom Wicker, J.F.K. and L.B.J. (This is what Johnson told Ambassador Henry Cabot Lodge in the Executive Office Building, on the Sunday afternoon following Kennedy's murder.)
"Just let me get elected and then you can have your war." --Lyndon Johnson, quoted by Stanley Karnow, Vietnam: A History (Johnson made this comment to the joint chiefs of staff at a White House reception on Christmas Eve 1963, one month after the JFK assassination.)
S. Vietnam was a creation of the CIA and the French. S. Vietnam never had any legitimacy with its own people and its corrupt governments could not get the support of the people living there. No wonder U.S. empire building was stymied in Vietnam.
@1stTrillionaire the hoover troll is Thomas Lowery, a self-styled nazi. This asshole has many youtube screen names & seems to be in the JFK rooms 24/7 with his hate. Its favorite name is cdddraftsman.
When you see the youtube video 9fqMA9YV3ks you see hoover at 2:40-50 sitting with his felon friends in drag - wearing earrings & a woman's hair bun. He was certainly a controlled homo and created the documents & videos to frame Oswald. The rifle, pistol, Hidell name, curtain rods, etc. are fiction.
"It is a rare to actually hear admit to participation in murder, but that is eactly what LBJ does"
* Google Hilsman Cable were JFK gives the OK to have Diem ousted "It said among other things, "We should encourage the coup group to destroy the palace if necessary to gain victory" "in point 10 it ordered the death of Diem"
* Arthur S. RFK told him "He [JFK] always thought that [cable] was a great mistake, it lead us down a road we never fully recovered from"
LBJ is lying, as he usually does. He was involved in the assassination of Diem, but wants us to believe Kennedy ordered it and that he just went along for the ride.
Video: "Hunt Diem" or q4BxueYtcG4
The high echelon CIA vermin Hunt is on video saying the CIA did "create and fabricate" cables (documents) on the story about Kennedy ordering the killing of Diem. It was desired by the CIA vermin to say Kennedy had in fact conspired against Diem. Blame the dead guy stuff.
@10Faenor you are so full of shit. Diem was JFK's business. LBJ had nothing to do with it. In fact he was strongly opposed. LBJ was a good friend of Diem, and kept a photo of himself with Diem on his wall. Go to the National Archives site and look at all the documents Kennedy left behind from his actions that led to the assaination of Diem and the americanization of the war that he wanted. Its no secret. All these documents were declassified in the early 1990's. LBJ was not involved.
@10Faenor Blame the dead guy stuff? What a bunch of crap. You just make this stuff up yourself, dont you? There is no video of Hunt saying the CIA created documents about Kennedy. Did they create the phone call recordings too? You are so full of shit!! If anybody did 15 minutes of research, they would know what really happened. And LBJ was hardly involved in any business of the JFK administration. JFK didnt let LBJ to get involved.
@Jellolion1 well atleast diem wasa christian and a catholic , honestly i think kennedy wanted him outtta office but i also think that the vietnamese themselves clubbered and killed diem and Ngo
@theiselme Kennedy decided he could dictate who the leadership would be in a sovereign country. He destabilized a stable government, toppled a working system of not just national, but local governments and civil servant system, and replaced it with incompetent morons who he knew absolutely nothing about. And the end result, what JFK wanted, was the americanization of a war that he fully expected to win in less than 1 years time. He got his first wish, shouldering the burden of war.
Respond to this video...The arrogant Kennedys thought they could run Vietnam and their war better than Diem. Eisenhower concluded that we should stay as far from Vietnam as possible, but Kennedy decided to make Vietnam his showcase of anticommunist military action. In a phone transcript of conversation between JFK and Lodge, they discuss how they will take over the war, and win it in a few months. The "best and the brightest" quickly sunk us in the biggest shithole they could find.
The odd thing is, North Vietnamese propoganda portrayed Diem as a "weak puppet for the United States." The irony is, however, the reason the Kennedy administration had him killed was the ambassador to South Vietnam held contempt for him because he wouldn't tolerate Diem telling the ambassador that he was incorrect on how to properly fight the war. The ambassador wouldn't have it, and recommended his assasination, calling him "rouge." It was the worst foreign policy blunder of the 20th century.
@jagstang2100 The bulk of his greatness came from how he moved America with his inspiring speeches. The truth is, Kennedy only knew what his ambassador, Henry Cabot Lodge, told him. When Lodge, being the arrogant, ignorant son-of-a-bitch he was, told Kennedy that Diem was "corrupt" and that "he ought to be killed," that was the only more-or-less reliable information Kennedy got. When he learned the truth of who Diem was for South Vietnam, however, he tried to call off the assassination, but it
@Killermuffin1 JFK visited South Vietnam when he was a senator. He knew very well who Diem was. What you say is preposterous.JFK wanted to use Vietnam as the showcase of his anticomunism platform. Problem was Diem didnt want to expand the war, nor did he want a bunch of Americans expanding it for him. Diem complained when he learned that the US had 12000 troops in country, while the Geneva convention put the limit at 200.JFK had to get Diem out of the picture in order to Americanize the war.
@Jellolion1 JFK, Lodge, MacNamara, Bundy thought that once the US took charge of the war in vietnam, that they could easily defeat the communists in a couple of months. They needed to get rid of Diem because he was strongly opposed to any expansion of the war. He was angry because American soldiers had entered Vietnam illegally, with no visas, and were operating at will, under no control of the Vietnamese government. So JFK decided to replace Diem with an American puppet.
Respond to this video...do you make this shit up? Really, trying to blame JFK's vietnam policy on Lodge is quite ridiculous. The reason JFK got rid of Ambassador Nolting and replaced him with Lodge a few monthsbefore the coup was because Nolting was strongly opposed to the coup plan, as were JFK's military advisors. JFK and his "best and brightest" came up with the plan to get rid of Diem so that they could Americanize and expand the war.
@Killermuffin1 now this is bullshit. Kennedy knew who Diem was. He met him in Vietnam in 1957. JFK brought in Lodge to help with the plans to eliminate Diem that were already in place. Where do you get that crap, from the re-writing of history by shills, bought and paid for by the Kennedy family? Look at the Archives records. JFK et al had concluded they wanted to eliminate Diem when Nolting was still ambassador. Nolting strongly disagreed, so they ousted him and replaced him with Lodge.
@jagstang2100 was too late. It was said by all those present that Kennedy immediately left the room with the palest, most sickly skin-tone anyone had ever seen once they heard of the news of Diem's death.
@capetown99 They weren't ignored, but they came way too late to save Diem. JFK wasn't as great a man as he was made out to be in practice. The real reason we see so little wrong in him is because he was hero-ized by his assassination. The reasons why JFK appointed Lodge in the first place were:
1) Lodge was a Republican (making him seem like he was trying to become as bi-partisan as possible)
2) Lodge was a very, very arrogant Republican (which was a sneaky attempt by the Democratic Party to
@capetown99 Oh, nononononono! I'm not saying that. I didn't articulate that well. I meant that the younger generations are seeing very little to no wrong in his policies, because when they think of him, they think of his assassination rather than his policies. He helped my family escape from Cuba, so he has my most profound respect, but as with most things I look to criticize him as much as possible, so that I might not heroize him as we have with so many political figures like Thomas Jefferson
@Killermuffin1 Oh, no! JFK 'Racketeersman of the New Frontier' !
Q: What Was JFK's 'Anti-Racketeering Crusade' All About?
A : It Was Actually His Own Personal Protection Racket & Here's How It Worked. Mafia who gave $ & backed (R) Nixon for President, Jimmy Hoffa & Dave Beck, etc, were hounded into prison on trumped up charges while Mafia who gave $ & backed (D) JFK for President, Walter & Victor Reuther etc, were allowed to commit crimes w/impunity. Google Ralph de Toledano Hoffa Frame-Up.
@capetown99 (who, I add to eschew obfuscation, was a generally great man, but we rarely hear of his many flaws, making him into some superhuman. This is just a historical phenomenon that I hate deeply.)
@Killermuffin1 "taking Castro's life is a grand endeavor"
CIA Esterline "What I find so unacceptable is how cavalier they (Kennedys) were in taking nearly 2,000 ppl and putting them out as animal bait." Four Americans and 114 CIA-trained Cubans were killed and 1,189 were captured, 50M in aid & 3M in cash sent to Cuba & Castro, a country & a man bent on the destruction of the US to get back the 'Bay of Pigs' hostages. JFK thought Castro would have them all murdered like after the revolution.
@JgarfbiHoover actually the plan for the invasion was created under the Eisenhower administration. They asked Kennedy for his approval, and he foolishly agreed.
What JFK didn't do to stop 'Bribes' in the defense industry ?
JFK did Judith Campbell Exner, mob moll, who had 20 White House visits starting in 05/61. Exner carried $ bribes to JFK from Ca. defense contractors. Exner to JFK : "I'm pregnant" JFK : "What are you going to do about it?" She had an abortion at a Chicagio hospital in 01/63 and was never invited back to the WH.
Consolation Prize : Giancana/Roselli given contract to kill Castro.
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@capetown99 What did JFK do about 'Soviet Spy's'?
JFK did Ellen Rometsch (East German spy) When the Profumo affair (sex scandal w/German spy) was blowing apart the UK. JFK paid her off & had her deported. They abused the FBI & Congress to keep this liaison out of the press & timing strongly suggests that the assassination of Diem was used to divert press attention from JFK's connection to Rometsch. JFK had sex in London & NY w/prostitute Suzy Chang who was at the heart of the Profumo affair.
Was JFK reluctant on Civil Rights ? Reeves p416 JFK made campaign promises to blacks he did not keep which led to riots. Akhil Reed Amar of Yale Law School faults JFK for appeasing So. (D) by stocking the lower fed. bench with "notorious segregationists." RFK ordered extensive electronic surveillance of MLK admittedly "investigating the love life of a group leader for dissemination in the press."
When caught Jgar produced the signed doc's & Booby still denied it !
@capetown99 As far as I know,presidents arent given 2 terms in office, they have to wina second election. The rate that Kennedy was going, if he hadnt been assasinated, he would have lost to the republicans anyway. What makes you think that he would have done things drastically different from his lost and wandering first term, if a miracle did happen and he was re-elected?. Given his health condition, he would have had great difficult if a miracle did happen and he was re-elected.
JFK used Peter Lawford's home in Santa Monica for meeting women. & kept a large collection of photos of himself with naked women. JFK's blackmailed starlets into servicing him or have their careers destroyed. JFK suffered from permanent venereal disease because he had been re-infected so often. He infected his partners with a disease so serious that it causes 35% of all infertility in US women today.
FACT : JFK as skipper of a PT-109 managed through simple and unbelievable negligence to get it rammed and sunk by a Japanese destroyer , the only time this would happen to a USN PT-Boat in the ENTIRE PACIFIC CAMPAIGN OF WW2 . His men called him Shafty and complained he spent more time chasing women than Japanese. Joe Sr. was so impressed with his son's incompetence he bought him one medal for each man JFK lost ! McArthur said he should of been Court Marshalled.
@JgarfbiHoover hey, you are plagerizing my material!! Joe Sr recognized the opportunity to use the PT109 sinking in a political campaign. Sr got Joe Jr killed when he tried to make him a war hero too. Joe Jr was supposed to be the president, but never made it passed the first step of the plan. So the ball was passed to JFK. Joe Sr started the Kennedy myth and all the propaganda campaign, and found somebody to write a book for JFK. How many other books did JFK write?
The CIA in the time frame of the Kennedy Assassnation was liberal wall to wall Ivy League Do-Gooders who wouldn't of hurt a fly so JFK decided to toughen them up a bit. The only time the CIA (Acting against it's own wishes) was made to murder people was when JFK's first priority as President of the United States was the assassination of Prime Minister Lumumba of the Congo, President Trujillo of the Dominican Republic and Premier Diem of South Vietnam .
@capetown99 Its amazing how so many fools still believe in the Kennedy myth, after all these years, after all the evidence has come out, an archive full of declassified documents. Kennedy sunk us in the Vietnam war. It was his plan to get rid of Diem and Americanize the war. People think we are more sophisticated than people were in 1963. Obviously not. The truth is right in front of us, but we choose not to look. Propagate that Kennedy myth. Its a crock of shit.
@Killermuffin1 the reason he was so upset because he realized he was responsible for the death of a fellow catholic, which according to his religion, condemned him to hell for eternity. JFK was a devout catholic, as was Diem.
@Killermuffin1 Its amazing how from this statement made from a third party, people can come to a totally erroneous conclusion, ignoring the volumes of Kennedy records from 1963 in the National Archives. Kennedy was shaken because he knew he was responsible for the death of a fellow catholic, and according to their common catholic religion, for which JFK was devout, this would condemn him to hell for eternity. You dont think that would shake him up a little?
@Killermuffin1 Ho Chi Minh could believe it when he found out he US killed Diem. He said "how could the do such a stupid thing". Diem was his biggest obstacle, the most dedicated and entrenched anticommunist, and the US just destroyed him. The viet cong wouldnt believe the news of the assasination for a long time. They though it was some kind of trick. They couldnt believe the US would destroy their nemesis.
Respond to this video... When Ho realized that the news of Diem's assassination was true, and the US has installed a weak puppet government, he recognized immediately how he would win. Now he had a war of national liberation, to liberate South Vietnam from American imperialism, and this was the big fat worm on a hook that he would use to suck in support from the soviets and china. And after the battle at Ia Drang, Giap said we can kill these Americans just as easily as the French.
After hearing that is there anyone left who does not believe that this old southern racist was behind the assasination of JFK ? He sounds like he is experienced when it comes to getting thugs to kill somebody ? Sound familiar ?
@marleonetti5 u should watch the video jesse ventura conspiracy theory the jfk one, it explains alot, its on youtube too. nixon and George h bush had to do wit it to
@marleonetti5 You are right LBJ did kill Kennedy. But Kennedy gave the go ahead to depose Diem. Kennedy knew Diem would have to be killed. Johnson was just stating what Kennedy had done.
@matrix49A You re half right - half wrong. LBJ was one of the conspiracy assholes. Kennedy was nor responsible for killing Diem. That was done by those members of the conspiracy, including LBJ. Listen to the "Hunt Diem" video. Hunt, of the CIA, forged documents to make you believe Kennedy was responsible. See & hear his say it. At a congressional hearing. And he was NOT arrested on the spot for that felony crime, proving the CIA runs the country.
@marleonetti5 I've got an alternative extremely diverse and very "interesting" theory about JFK's assassination. That I would like to bounce around on an online debate, message me back if you'd like to to be a part of it. This invite is available to EVERYONE else out there, that is willing to have a recorded debate online for YouTube.
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"It is a rare thing to actually hear a U.S. President actually admit to participation in murder"
Well seeing that he was talking about JFK's act of betrayal against Diem (Research 'Hilsman Memo') and RFK's frank admission to Arthur Schlesinger
that 'Memo' "set us on a course that we never really fully recovered from" I think history will record that LBJ didn't admit to murdering Diem and only leftwingnuts with their 'Hatriotic' agenda will believe in this tidbit of tripe.
I saw it. Amazing that nothing was done right then and there to put Hunt in prison and end the dominance of the CIA. Of course, most if not all of the politicians are controlled and worthless.
@arther1046 And Hunt's deathbed confession of his own & CIA's involvement in the JFK murder were ignored by the media.Seems that would be a HUGE story,but "someone" doesnt want people to hear that kind of talk.
@themeaningoflife38 "Hunt's deathbed confession of his own & CIA's involvement (JFK murder) were ignored by the media"
Taking into consideration that it was a ploy to provide for his drug addicted son, the fact that it was ignored has serious implications. The mass media was on top of the JFK assassination when it happened, no new creditible revelations have come forth since 11/22/63 & this supposed "deathbed confession" has now been filed w/the rest of the non-sense that surronds this case.
Unwarranted Criticism Of The Warren Report by the critics are as follows:
(I) wedded to theories adopted before the evidence was in
(II) politically interested
(III) financially interested
(IV) hasty and inaccurate in their research
(V) infatuated with their own theories
ALL POINTS BANG ON, BULLS EYE'S, ABSOLUTE TRUTH, TRUER WORDS NEVER SPOKEN & JUST THE TIP OF THE TREASONIST ICEBERG THAT THE CRIMINAL COMMUNITY OF RESEARCHERS ARE GUILTY OF.
@auther1046 "the FBI changed newspaper stories on 11-23-63.The coverup began right away"
* How come if 'THEY' had the power to censor 100,000's of newspapers, locally, Nationally & worldwide 'THEY' didn't censor the 1st con spiracy hoax books?
* How come con spiracy theorists are never found on any of the 'Mysterious Death Lists'?
* How come the Kennedy family to this day thinks ppl like you are nutty in the head?
* How come you avoided (conveniently) what was in the CIA memo?
@themeaningoflife38 "Hunt admitting that he fabricated documents aimed at incriminating JFK in the murder of Deim" With JFK taking such a battering of reputation, even his closest allies & keepers of his legacy admitting to his mob involvement, adulterous womenising, leechery, ordering the CIA to assassinate foreign leaders & spy on American journalists (Google CIA Family Jewels) & countless other crimes, I thought it was pretty patriotic for Hunt to take some of the heat off of JFK, right?
@auther1046 ---E Howard Hunt---a real patriot-ha! Involved in all sorts of dirty black bag operations nearly his entire career, fabricated documents re JFK-Diem assassination, hada role in JFK assassination (was disguised as a bum on Dealey Plaza), but when he was busted for Watergate, was blackmailing President for $
now you see how american people treat their loyal friend. this is bitter lesson for my country that belive american will protect us. now we disapoint that they betray us.
Remember, it is not the American, Chinese, Vietnamese, Russian, Italian, French, Spanish, Nigerians, or Eskimo "people" who treat you a particular way or manner.
It is always the current assholes in the political regimes of these countries that disappoint all of the people in the world. I hate the leaders here and everywhere, but I have nothing against you.
@jacobji5 thats because LBJ was going to send American troops to S.Vietnam and JFK wasn't so the CIA killed Kennedy so LBJ could be president and send more troops over there.
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At the time of the assassination LBJ was V P. He did not control policy, Kennedy did. Listen to him again... "They started on me with Diem you remember, he was corrupt and he ought to be killed." Who are they? Answer those who controlled policy and those who advised those who did. They started with me...that is they pressured me. Read "Flawed Giant" R Dellack for a proper view.
Yep LBJ you had to open your big mouth. Lets see if their is any tape of LBJ saying he got his suite 8 buddies and found some assasians called best snipers and shot JFK and give the Texas Governor a wound.
Johnson was speaking in terms of the national "we." He meant we as a country. He had no involvement in the Diem assassination. During his VP, JFK and RFK routinely cut him out of the big foreign policy decisions. And while JFK gave the okay on making conditions favorable for a coup, he was mortified that the Diem brothers were killed.
@deltalitprof and it was that and the long list of mortifying things that people like LBJ etc were doing is what gave JFK the complete view of just how fucked up these people were. if there were a biblical hell , it wouldnt be good enough for the likes of a hideous bastard like LBJ
@deltalitprof There is no national "we killed him". LBJ did not help to assassinate in my name. Jfk did not make favorable conditions for any coup. You just make up shit.
@1stTrillionaire oh yes he did. He organised it.And that was known at the time, it was such common knowledge that Morris West wrote a novel "The Ambassador" based on Henry Cabot Lodge's actions. H CL was specifically ordered by Kennedy not to meet with Diem Cable 243 was drafted with Kennedy's approval. Johnson found out after it was sent
@backnumber1662 You are full of shit. Dallek (you should learn to spell names) is another CIA hack revisionist. Dallek is all about saying the conspiracy did not happen, etc, etc, and more bullshit.
LBJ knew about the murder of Diem. You are trying to say the Kennedy's ordered his murder, and that is another lie you never can prove. JFK wanted troops out of Vietnam and put out the PO for it. One of the first thing LBJ did after the assassination was cancel it and get the war.
@backnumber1662 HCL was in Hawaii meeting with the generals on ramping up the war; 2 days before the JFK assassination.
JFK was going to bring the troops home. JFK did not send HCL to meet any generals in Hawaii in secrecy. This meant that JFK was already irrelevant since at least that day, and it was not a loner assassination.
Memo: Dept of State,S/S-NSC Files:Lot 72 D 316,NSAMs.
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JFK Assassinates Diem !
JFK instigated a plot to overthrow & kill SV's Premiere Diem. JFK played politics with our lives in Vietnam, he put his election ahead of American lives. He feared that Diem, who was negotiating w/the North, would force Americans out before the 1964 elections. Voice of America broadcasts called for the coup, JFK had cut off pay to the Palace Guard and American advisors were attached to almost every unit that attacked the Presidential Palace.
The Viet Cong made huge advances in the resulting confusion. JFK had asked ex-CIA USAF Gen. Ed Landsdale to go to Saigon & help "get rid" of Diem, he refused. Lt. Col. Lucien Conein was used instead. The fundamental planning document was the 8/30/63 memo to Sec. of St. Dean Rusk from Roger Hilsman Assist Sec. St. for Far Eastern Affairs. It said : "We should encourage the coup group to destroy the palace if necessary to gain victory" & in point 10 it ordered the 'Death of Diem'.
In his book RFK & His Times, WH Historian Arthur Schlesinger quoted RFK’s recollections of the Hilsman cable : “[JFK] always said that it was a major mistake on his part. The result is we started down a road that we never really recovered from” 61'JFK took office there were 800+- US troops in VN, by 63' there were 16,800+- in violation of the 1954 Geneva Conventions, aid had gone up to $400M/yr. JFK : "now we have a problem in trying to make our power credible & VN looks like the place"
This is completely false, LBJ taken in context is refering to "we" as him being VP in the JFK Admin. that assassinated Diem. The infamous 'Hilsman Memo' orders Diem ousted and RFK confirmed it when he said "[JFK] "he always regretted that message, it started us down a road which we never fully recovered". JFK's actions made it a certainty 500,000 troops would be sent.
Spread the word 'arther1046' is a lying BULLSHITTER ! He's known about the truth for yrs but keeps spreading this BS.
LBJ LBJ HOW MANY KIDS DID YOU KILL TODAY. I am 57 years old and I saw this written on so many walls in the UK when I was a teenager......WAKE UP PEOPLE. Please. x
some DC pals say yes. this is an well informed group here and even our notions and hunches are probably better than most history books.
They are not even teaching anything regarding the 1960's now, as if it never happened, but the teens are getting cool peace signs and bright colors on everything, I love it fashion wise, but they have not a clue. keep researching.
Diem deserved to be killed- he was a corrupt and ruthless capitalist who did not have a mandate to govern. He passed silly laws like banning Buddhists from waving the Buddhist flag on Buddha's birthday. He ordered the shooting of peaceful protesters and his actions lead to a surge in the numbers of the vietcong and the NVA. After the burning of 6 monks his brothers wife Ngo Dinh Nhu called it a barbecue. Diem and his unpopularity probably helped lose the war. He is like karzai today.
Lyndon B Johnson is a traitor to America.
He ordered the murders of us servicemen with the help of israel
youtube USS Liberty - these sailors are still seeking justice for being stabbed in the back by Johnson - they are still being ignored.
Lyndon B Johnson got the Israeli military to attack a US Naval vessel, to use it as a pretext to go to war with Egypt and blame it on them, it was a false flag
Johnson killed American Servicemen. Go research, it's all true.
Communist2012 1 month ago
i read that JFK sponsored the CIA led coup and the vietnamese generals decided to kill diem. yeah right, LBJ just fessed up. sort of like taking out gaddafi.
up2space 1 month ago
Diem was the Lincoln of the Vietnamese Civil War. Without him, the South is all but lost.
Justmyopinionlol 2 months ago
No one cares that Diem died. His enemy hated him and his friends killed him.
cubitsuper 2 months ago
Diem was a bastard, this assassination is nothing compared to the assassination of Allende in Chile by the Nixon administration.
whereismyIQgoing 2 months ago
In point of fact, Kennedy agreed to Diem's removal, though not assassination and gave orders he was to be able to call it off at any momemt ... but the CIA and Ambassador Lodge by then were in near open revolt and not listening, so they did it their way and killed Diem and his brother, ushering in political instability, a much wider and more brutal war and again showing that we are ruled by thugs.
Boelcke1919 3 months ago
LBJ, Kennedy, and th eother leftists wanted to remove Diem he was a successful independent rightist who actually believed in fighting communism and protecting his country from it, he was not doing any "peace" deals with north vietnam kennedy wanted to force him to bow to hanoi and sabotage RVN's ability to defend itself from the atypical paused then continued communsit aggression, NVA was already entrenched in Laos and Cambodia killing civies there...
RobinMosley24 3 months ago
I have had patients that have been US Senators in my career. And I wasn't thinking about anyone trying to harm me or spy upon me or attack me, etc.
judyrusso121212 4 months ago
I sent an email after seeing Ted Kennedy make the same angry face I make just prior to his death via facebook. And after that I kept getting terrorized and attacked. My biological mother died in 1987, so I cannot ask her. And honestly after what they have put me thru, I would like to bury it all with him. But they keep attacking and terrorizing me. And have affected my Nursing Career of 20 years. And treated me like a prostitute and admitted to me that they pediphiled my children as well.
judyrusso121212 4 months ago
In 2004, I was told by my biological mother's family and friends that I could possibly be or was the biological daugther of one of the Kennedy's. And I look like them. And what I did was I ignored it for many years. I knew I would never be accepted and that I was probably one of many illegitimate children of one of them. How do I have a DNA test done about this? I have been terrorized and attacked about it, I think. IDK, what to do because they keep spying and attacking me. I need help.
judyrusso121212 4 months ago
RFK to Johnson " Why did you kill my brother. "
Bobby was on target .. John, Robert, MLK, John jr., Diana, and many more all murdered by the same group working through what ever president was in power at the moment.
It is the $Elite.
eblair12 4 months ago
These Evil LBJ statements WE believe refers to the murder of JFK
"It is the Melancholy law of human societies to be compeled sometimes to chose a great evil in order to ward off a greater evil"
YOU want to see a guilty MAN? check this out , = LBJ coments on JFK assasination 1969.wmv
LBJ Evil joke about JFK
"I told? him that morning at breakfast...Son, I'm afraid this just ant' your day. Your going to the morgue and I'm going back to the White House"
JFK
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cruisersism 4 months ago
Read "JFK and the UNSPEAKABLE" for inside evidence on the Diem assassination that the REPUBLICAN ambassador to Vietnam arranged AGAINST the orders of JFK. The GOP is fill with deceitful liars and some Dems too like LBJ. The last good Republican president was Eisenhower and the last Christian one was Carter.
exenrontexas 4 months ago
We always knew it. Now we know it.
tabletalk33 5 months ago
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This Evil LBJ statement I believe refers to the murder of JFK
"It is the Melancholy law of human societies to be compeled sometimes to chose a great evil in order to ward off a greater evil"
cruisersism 5 months ago
This is just ridiculous. For starters, LBJ wasn't president in October of 1963 when Diem was assassinated. John F. Kennedy was President and made these decisions. Its very clear from reviewing legitimate sources on the war such as "Vietnam" by Stanley Karnow that the US Government didn't want Diem dead, they wanted him out of power. We did support the coup that took place. Johnson is speaking in general terms. He's acknowledging a fact rather than stating responsibility. You are clueless.
DragonSparky123666 6 months ago
@DragonSparky123666 LBJ was Vice President and desperately wanted JFK out of the way and RFK too. LBJ lied to America to officially start the war in Vietnam and he was happy to be rid of Diem so that could happen. Diem was trying to negotiate a peace with the Buddhists when he was assassinate. JFK told the Republican ambassador, Lodge,NOT to kill Diem but Lodge ordered it anyhow with strong backing from the CIA. LBJs main political support was Brown and Root aka HALLIBURTON, war mongers.
exenrontexas 4 months ago
@DragonSparky123666 What part of WE killed him do you not understand?
cruisersism 4 months ago
it was a mistake to invlve in tis country
samantha34ize 6 months ago
JFK knew about this. He signed off on the murder.
OzzyFan87 6 months ago
@OzzyFan87 you lying turdball. you never have proof of anything you say.
jacobji5 6 months ago
@jacobji5 Type in JFK Memoirs Dictation, he admits it...
OzzyFan87 6 months ago
@OzzyFan87 you lying turdball. Kennedy did not say he ordered any assassination. That was all Johnson and his gangster pals.
jacobji5 6 months ago
@jacobji5 Looks like we have a troll...
OzzyFan87 6 months ago
@OzzyFan87 yea, the CIA troll is you.
jacobji5 6 months ago
@jacobji5 Did you even listen to the JFK Memoirs? He clearly talks about the coup.
OzzyFan87 6 months ago
@OzzyFan87 Did you listen to the JFK Memoirs? He clearly talks about the coup, and did not say anything implicating him in the CIA sponsored assassination.
jacobji5 6 months ago
@jacobji5 Dude, he talks about the people in Washington who supported and did not support the coup. He then talks about suggesting a coup. He knew about it...
OzzyFan87 6 months ago
@OzzyFan87 Suggesting a coup does not imply "by murder". Coup's have been accomplished by moving the leader out to another country, or imprisonment. He knew about the Diem assassination after the fact.
Furthermore, I did watch the video: Hunt Diem. The CIA person Hunt clearly admitted the CIA did fabricate a story that Kennedy killed Diem. TIME, Inc. is a CIA rag used to wash it's dirty ass.
Knowing this and more about the CIA, Hunt, and TIME - you have only CIA lies against JFK.
jacobji5 6 months ago
@jacobji5 Turdface...
OzzyFan87 6 months ago
I thought president minh killed him personally for humiliating him in front of the public.
Madeviets 7 months ago
FBI lied to all of us. *****PROOF***** Witness statements falsified.
Who knows how many witness statements have been purposely falsified by the FBI criminals.
You Tube video: Proof the FBI LIED in their JFK Assassination Reports.
10Faenor 7 months ago
Somebody needs to go take a dump on LBJS grave in Texas...
neilzep 7 months ago
I think that Diem might be working with Kennedy to withdraw troops from Vietnam, but that didn't happen apparently.... lol
AssassinationCitizen 7 months ago
Yet another CIA victory.
DCFunBud 8 months ago
LBJ accomplished everything the Kennedy boys, bless them, were only just learning about and selling.
LBJ was FDR's choice to continue his work toward a greater society where business delivers x amount of jobs for x amount of bottom line.
A fair playing field.
Baseball.
journey46 8 months ago
CIA propaganda to make JFK look bad. CIA and Joint Chiefs supported built up and supported Diem's dictatorship so it could result commies. State wanted coup. JFK went along but doubted. One more reason why CIA wanted JFK dead. So the Shackley group got rid of JFK through the Cuban underground and mafia, who both worked for Shackley. Lots of hating on JFK always. But he was the last president to stand up to the CIA/ASC/Cercle network. LBJ reversed most JFK policy again in Africa, EU and such.
FixXxer1845 9 months ago
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The American thought by killing Diem and having their own way of handling Vietnam is the best way but they don't understand the mentality of the Vietnamese which end up costing more than 58000 Precious lives.
Fuki417 9 months ago
The American thought by killing Diem and having their own way of handling Vietnam is the best way but they don't understand the mentality of the Vietnamese which end up costing more than 58000 Precious lives.
Fuki417 9 months ago
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@ProtectYerAnus "This bastard LBJ was in the Diem assassination up to his lying eyeballs"
~ LBJ at VP had absolutely no power to influence foreign affairs. The 'Death of Diem' is attributed, was caused by and ordered by JFK personally. LBJ at the time was getting JFK's chestnuts out of the fire by working on the Moon Race with BTW was his idea to beat the Russians by coming up with quote JFK "a scientific bonanza to prove US world leadership"
JgarfbiHoover 9 months ago
This bastard LBJ was in the Diem assassination up to his lying eyeballs. He confessed to it on tape, saying “we” three times. Now I know the Kennedy conspiracy did happen. The fuckers in government. Just like the Nazi’s and other military dictatorships.
ProtectAnus 9 months ago 17
@ProtectAnus
~ JFK's fundamental planning doc was 8/30/63 memo to Sec. of St. Dean Rusk from Roger Hilsman Assist Sec. St. for Far Eastern Affairs. It said : "We should encourage the coup group to destroy the palace if necessary to gain victory" & in point 10 it ordered the 'Death of Diem'. RFK to A. Schesinger "He (JFK) said it was a big mistake, it led us down a road in which we never fully recovered"
~ It caused such instability 56,000 ppl paid for JFK's boo-boo
WOW ! JFK ASSASSIN !
JgarfbiHoover 9 months ago
Diem was a CIA puppet anyway, so I guess what the CIA did to him was their prerogative. Like a Dixie cup, once you're done with it, you crumple it and throw it away. This is a man who put his own people in concentration camps and ran his government into the ground, all with the express permission of the U.S., and they disposed of him when he became too crazy to serve his purpose.
yerk3 9 months ago
Robert MacNamara in "Fog of War" (search Youtube for Before & After an Assassination) indicates that JFK was shocked when Diem was assassinated, because "he realized we must have had something to do with it" - in other words, it was done without the knowledge or consent of the Commander in Chief. There's a kind of coup right there.
mollyfurie 10 months ago
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Johnson was responsible for more than a dozen murders including his own sister. Watch "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" here on YouTube. Johnson was behind it all.
socalsir 10 months ago
Bottom line folks: Lyndon Baines Johnson was capable of ANYTHING. He even was under investigation at one time for having his own sister killed!
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boysad1975 10 months ago
"LBJ stood head and shoulders of Kennedy, both physically..." A little trivia: It's been a long time, but yes I read Johnson was 6'3", and Kennedy was 6'0". Johnson also had an almost fatal heart attack in 1955. I think that if he'd been re-elected, it would've quickly hastened the heart attack/failure that eventually took his life in '73. He died the year after Truman.
RattlerBK 10 months ago
@GarryHarriman
Also, did Johnson put vaseline in his hair to hold it down? To me, he looks kind of 'greasy' to me. I wouldn't be surprised as that was commonly done in that era. Even my dad wore it in his hair back then, and when he'd put his head back on the couch it would leave a stain, lol. In terms of accomplishment and vision: you mean Medicare and all the civil righs stuff. Then I agree.
RattlerBK 10 months ago
@RattlerBK Vaseline? Nah, it was Vitalis.
glimmer2158 10 months ago
@GarryHarriman
Deserves more credit? Yes, maybe domestically. The JFK worshippers are like the Reagan worshippers because of each Prez's charisma/persona. My parents were in their late teens to about twenty when Kennedy was in, and they were just 'swept away' by Kennedy. I guess it was because they were young and impressionable. As (bad) luck would have it, Kennedy was killed the day before their wedding.
RattlerBK 10 months ago
@GarryHarriman why would LBJ say what he said if it weren't true? Its easy to see that they thought his rep.was mared because of Diem.
taylormmerchants 11 months ago
@GarryHarriman You talk like a low brow history fool. For better education go to the web page: LBJ and the Civil Rights Act - The Education Forum.
Sooner or later you must understand. Presidents are controlled. After reading this page, you begin to understand why Obama can not pull us out of the Mid-East. As for the assassinations of 3 well known men, you figure it out. They were perceive as sympathetic to communism. LBJ was a murderous asshole, with his own assassin, Malcolm Wallace.
arther1046 11 months ago
Growing up with sesame street on ABC i love puppet shows. Hi from Australia.
1978Nguyen 1 year ago
Let's not forget that LBJ was the heavy weight majority Senate leader and JFK "stole" the presidential nomination from him. When the Kennedy brothers enjoyed tremendous power as President and Attorney General, they hardly hid their contempt towards LBJ and didn't think twice before humiliating him, and were getting ready to drop him in the next election. They never expected that the old boss would go so far ...
gracemelodia 1 year ago
He doesn't mention JFK in this. Robert MacNamara in 'The Fog of War' says that neither he nor Kennedy had advance knowledge of Diem's overthrow and that Jack was angry.
adrienrain 1 year ago
I bet he was behind the assassination of JFK, he probably didn't like his plans for the U.S. so he had him killed in order for him to become president.
BlazerT10 1 year ago
.....on Nov, 2, 1963. They (US) supported President Diem at first, when he told US Officers "The Vietnam problems only solve by Vietnamese, NO foreign countries involve" That Us planed to blames him as corruption and killed him. Since then until now the Vietnamese people do not have any good leader like him. Of course, the good people follow him also got killed. How US represent the WORLD LEADER OF FAIR and SQUARE"?
heinzng1 1 year ago
The mastermind JFK, Johnson, Henry Cabot Loge Jr., Lucien Emile Conein, and Al Spera. George Ball, Averell Harriman, N-Michael Forrestal, and Rogers Hilsman and the "thugs of SVN Army's Generals" These are war criminals who planed to coup the first Vietnam President Ngo Dinh Diem and his 2 brothers who against US to pour its troops into Vietnam. With the price $42,000.00 USD to kill the Good President on Nov, 2, 1963.
heinzng1 1 year ago
"I am not going to lose Vietnam. I am not going to be the President who saw Southeast Asia go the way China went." --Lyndon Johnson, quoted by Tom Wicker, J.F.K. and L.B.J. (This is what Johnson told Ambassador Henry Cabot Lodge in the Executive Office Building, on the Sunday afternoon following Kennedy's murder.)
mtracy9 1 year ago
"Just let me get elected and then you can have your war." --Lyndon Johnson, quoted by Stanley Karnow, Vietnam: A History (Johnson made this comment to the joint chiefs of staff at a White House reception on Christmas Eve 1963, one month after the JFK assassination.)
mtracy9 1 year ago
S. Vietnam was a creation of the CIA and the French. S. Vietnam never had any legitimacy with its own people and its corrupt governments could not get the support of the people living there. No wonder U.S. empire building was stymied in Vietnam.
mtracy9 1 year ago
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Who's this hoover troll on here who clear hates jfk?
1stTrillionaire 1 year ago
Who's this hoover troll on here who clear hates jfk?
1stTrillionaire 1 year ago
@1stTrillionaire the hoover troll is Thomas Lowery, a self-styled nazi. This asshole has many youtube screen names & seems to be in the JFK rooms 24/7 with his hate. Its favorite name is cdddraftsman.
When you see the youtube video 9fqMA9YV3ks you see hoover at 2:40-50 sitting with his felon friends in drag - wearing earrings & a woman's hair bun. He was certainly a controlled homo and created the documents & videos to frame Oswald. The rifle, pistol, Hidell name, curtain rods, etc. are fiction.
10Faenor 1 year ago
The following are all from the
'Secret J. Edgar Hoover FBI Files'
Enjoy as much as I did collectng them :-)
Regards
Jgar
JgarfbiHoover 1 year ago
"It is a rare to actually hear admit to participation in murder, but that is eactly what LBJ does"
* Google Hilsman Cable were JFK gives the OK to have Diem ousted "It said among other things, "We should encourage the coup group to destroy the palace if necessary to gain victory" "in point 10 it ordered the death of Diem"
* Arthur S. RFK told him "He [JFK] always thought that [cable] was a great mistake, it lead us down a road we never fully recovered from"
Instability cost 56,000 lives
JgarfbiHoover 1 year ago
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LBJ is lying to us.
LBJ is lying, as he usually does. He was involved in the assassination of Diem, but wants us to believe Kennedy ordered it and that he just went along for the ride.
Video: "Hunt Diem" or q4BxueYtcG4
The high echelon CIA vermin Hunt is on video saying the CIA did "create and fabricate" cables (documents) on the story about Kennedy ordering the killing of Diem. It was desired by the CIA vermin to say Kennedy had in fact conspired against Diem. Blame the dead guy stuff.
10Faenor 1 year ago 20
@10Faenor you are so full of shit. Diem was JFK's business. LBJ had nothing to do with it. In fact he was strongly opposed. LBJ was a good friend of Diem, and kept a photo of himself with Diem on his wall. Go to the National Archives site and look at all the documents Kennedy left behind from his actions that led to the assaination of Diem and the americanization of the war that he wanted. Its no secret. All these documents were declassified in the early 1990's. LBJ was not involved.
Jellolion1 1 year ago
@10Faenor Blame the dead guy stuff? What a bunch of crap. You just make this stuff up yourself, dont you? There is no video of Hunt saying the CIA created documents about Kennedy. Did they create the phone call recordings too? You are so full of shit!! If anybody did 15 minutes of research, they would know what really happened. And LBJ was hardly involved in any business of the JFK administration. JFK didnt let LBJ to get involved.
Jellolion1 1 year ago
@Jellolion1 well atleast diem wasa christian and a catholic , honestly i think kennedy wanted him outtta office but i also think that the vietnamese themselves clubbered and killed diem and Ngo
theiselme 1 year ago
@theiselme Kennedy decided he could dictate who the leadership would be in a sovereign country. He destabilized a stable government, toppled a working system of not just national, but local governments and civil servant system, and replaced it with incompetent morons who he knew absolutely nothing about. And the end result, what JFK wanted, was the americanization of a war that he fully expected to win in less than 1 years time. He got his first wish, shouldering the burden of war.
Jellolion1 1 year ago
Respond to this video...The arrogant Kennedys thought they could run Vietnam and their war better than Diem. Eisenhower concluded that we should stay as far from Vietnam as possible, but Kennedy decided to make Vietnam his showcase of anticommunist military action. In a phone transcript of conversation between JFK and Lodge, they discuss how they will take over the war, and win it in a few months. The "best and the brightest" quickly sunk us in the biggest shithole they could find.
Jellolion1 1 year ago
The odd thing is, North Vietnamese propoganda portrayed Diem as a "weak puppet for the United States." The irony is, however, the reason the Kennedy administration had him killed was the ambassador to South Vietnam held contempt for him because he wouldn't tolerate Diem telling the ambassador that he was incorrect on how to properly fight the war. The ambassador wouldn't have it, and recommended his assasination, calling him "rouge." It was the worst foreign policy blunder of the 20th century.
Killermuffin1 1 year ago
@Killermuffin1 one of America's great presidents...don't forget it
jagstang2100 1 year ago
@jagstang2100 The bulk of his greatness came from how he moved America with his inspiring speeches. The truth is, Kennedy only knew what his ambassador, Henry Cabot Lodge, told him. When Lodge, being the arrogant, ignorant son-of-a-bitch he was, told Kennedy that Diem was "corrupt" and that "he ought to be killed," that was the only more-or-less reliable information Kennedy got. When he learned the truth of who Diem was for South Vietnam, however, he tried to call off the assassination, but it
Killermuffin1 1 year ago
@Killermuffin1 JFK visited South Vietnam when he was a senator. He knew very well who Diem was. What you say is preposterous.JFK wanted to use Vietnam as the showcase of his anticomunism platform. Problem was Diem didnt want to expand the war, nor did he want a bunch of Americans expanding it for him. Diem complained when he learned that the US had 12000 troops in country, while the Geneva convention put the limit at 200.JFK had to get Diem out of the picture in order to Americanize the war.
Jellolion1 1 year ago
@Jellolion1 JFK, Lodge, MacNamara, Bundy thought that once the US took charge of the war in vietnam, that they could easily defeat the communists in a couple of months. They needed to get rid of Diem because he was strongly opposed to any expansion of the war. He was angry because American soldiers had entered Vietnam illegally, with no visas, and were operating at will, under no control of the Vietnamese government. So JFK decided to replace Diem with an American puppet.
Jellolion1 1 year ago
Respond to this video...do you make this shit up? Really, trying to blame JFK's vietnam policy on Lodge is quite ridiculous. The reason JFK got rid of Ambassador Nolting and replaced him with Lodge a few monthsbefore the coup was because Nolting was strongly opposed to the coup plan, as were JFK's military advisors. JFK and his "best and brightest" came up with the plan to get rid of Diem so that they could Americanize and expand the war.
Jellolion1 1 year ago
@Killermuffin1 now this is bullshit. Kennedy knew who Diem was. He met him in Vietnam in 1957. JFK brought in Lodge to help with the plans to eliminate Diem that were already in place. Where do you get that crap, from the re-writing of history by shills, bought and paid for by the Kennedy family? Look at the Archives records. JFK et al had concluded they wanted to eliminate Diem when Nolting was still ambassador. Nolting strongly disagreed, so they ousted him and replaced him with Lodge.
Jellolion1 1 year ago
@jagstang2100 was too late. It was said by all those present that Kennedy immediately left the room with the palest, most sickly skin-tone anyone had ever seen once they heard of the news of Diem's death.
Killermuffin1 1 year ago
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capetown99 1 year ago
@capetown99 They weren't ignored, but they came way too late to save Diem. JFK wasn't as great a man as he was made out to be in practice. The real reason we see so little wrong in him is because he was hero-ized by his assassination. The reasons why JFK appointed Lodge in the first place were:
1) Lodge was a Republican (making him seem like he was trying to become as bi-partisan as possible)
2) Lodge was a very, very arrogant Republican (which was a sneaky attempt by the Democratic Party to
Killermuffin1 1 year ago
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capetown99 1 year ago
@capetown99 Oh, nononononono! I'm not saying that. I didn't articulate that well. I meant that the younger generations are seeing very little to no wrong in his policies, because when they think of him, they think of his assassination rather than his policies. He helped my family escape from Cuba, so he has my most profound respect, but as with most things I look to criticize him as much as possible, so that I might not heroize him as we have with so many political figures like Thomas Jefferson
Killermuffin1 1 year ago
@Killermuffin1 Oh, no! JFK 'Racketeersman of the New Frontier' !
Q: What Was JFK's 'Anti-Racketeering Crusade' All About?
A : It Was Actually His Own Personal Protection Racket & Here's How It Worked. Mafia who gave $ & backed (R) Nixon for President, Jimmy Hoffa & Dave Beck, etc, were hounded into prison on trumped up charges while Mafia who gave $ & backed (D) JFK for President, Walter & Victor Reuther etc, were allowed to commit crimes w/impunity. Google Ralph de Toledano Hoffa Frame-Up.
JgarfbiHoover 1 year ago
@capetown99 (who, I add to eschew obfuscation, was a generally great man, but we rarely hear of his many flaws, making him into some superhuman. This is just a historical phenomenon that I hate deeply.)
Killermuffin1 1 year ago
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capetown99 1 year ago
@capetown99 What do people say he didn't do?
Killermuffin1 1 year ago
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capetown99 1 year ago
@capetown99 I agree with the Bay of Pigs invasion, actually. Anything aimed at possibly taking that monster Castro's life is a grand endeavor.
Killermuffin1 1 year ago
@Killermuffin1 "taking Castro's life is a grand endeavor"
CIA Esterline "What I find so unacceptable is how cavalier they (Kennedys) were in taking nearly 2,000 ppl and putting them out as animal bait." Four Americans and 114 CIA-trained Cubans were killed and 1,189 were captured, 50M in aid & 3M in cash sent to Cuba & Castro, a country & a man bent on the destruction of the US to get back the 'Bay of Pigs' hostages. JFK thought Castro would have them all murdered like after the revolution.
JgarfbiHoover 1 year ago
@JgarfbiHoover actually the plan for the invasion was created under the Eisenhower administration. They asked Kennedy for his approval, and he foolishly agreed.
Jellolion1 1 year ago
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@Killermuffin1 "What didn't he do?"
What JFK didn't do to stop 'Bribes' in the defense industry ?
JFK did Judith Campbell Exner, mob moll, who had 20 White House visits starting in 05/61. Exner carried $ bribes to JFK from Ca. defense contractors. Exner to JFK : "I'm pregnant" JFK : "What are you going to do about it?" She had an abortion at a Chicagio hospital in 01/63 and was never invited back to the WH.
Consolation Prize : Giancana/Roselli given contract to kill Castro.
JgarfbiHoover 1 year ago
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@capetown99 What did JFK do about 'Soviet Spy's'?
JFK did Ellen Rometsch (East German spy) When the Profumo affair (sex scandal w/German spy) was blowing apart the UK. JFK paid her off & had her deported. They abused the FBI & Congress to keep this liaison out of the press & timing strongly suggests that the assassination of Diem was used to divert press attention from JFK's connection to Rometsch. JFK had sex in London & NY w/prostitute Suzy Chang who was at the heart of the Profumo affair.
JgarfbiHoover 1 year ago
@capetown99 "be critical"
Was JFK reluctant on Civil Rights ? Reeves p416 JFK made campaign promises to blacks he did not keep which led to riots. Akhil Reed Amar of Yale Law School faults JFK for appeasing So. (D) by stocking the lower fed. bench with "notorious segregationists." RFK ordered extensive electronic surveillance of MLK admittedly "investigating the love life of a group leader for dissemination in the press."
When caught Jgar produced the signed doc's & Booby still denied it !
JgarfbiHoover 1 year ago
@capetown99 As far as I know,presidents arent given 2 terms in office, they have to wina second election. The rate that Kennedy was going, if he hadnt been assasinated, he would have lost to the republicans anyway. What makes you think that he would have done things drastically different from his lost and wandering first term, if a miracle did happen and he was re-elected?. Given his health condition, he would have had great difficult if a miracle did happen and he was re-elected.
Jellolion1 1 year ago
@Killermuffin1 "his many flaws"
What did JFK do about 'STD's' in America ?
JFK used Peter Lawford's home in Santa Monica for meeting women. & kept a large collection of photos of himself with naked women. JFK's blackmailed starlets into servicing him or have their careers destroyed. JFK suffered from permanent venereal disease because he had been re-infected so often. He infected his partners with a disease so serious that it causes 35% of all infertility in US women today.
JgarfbiHoover 1 year ago
@capetown99 "I admired JFK"
FACT : JFK as skipper of a PT-109 managed through simple and unbelievable negligence to get it rammed and sunk by a Japanese destroyer , the only time this would happen to a USN PT-Boat in the ENTIRE PACIFIC CAMPAIGN OF WW2 . His men called him Shafty and complained he spent more time chasing women than Japanese. Joe Sr. was so impressed with his son's incompetence he bought him one medal for each man JFK lost ! McArthur said he should of been Court Marshalled.
JgarfbiHoover 1 year ago
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Jellolion1 1 year ago
@JgarfbiHoover hey, you are plagerizing my material!! Joe Sr recognized the opportunity to use the PT109 sinking in a political campaign. Sr got Joe Jr killed when he tried to make him a war hero too. Joe Jr was supposed to be the president, but never made it passed the first step of the plan. So the ball was passed to JFK. Joe Sr started the Kennedy myth and all the propaganda campaign, and found somebody to write a book for JFK. How many other books did JFK write?
Jellolion1 1 year ago
@Killermuffin1 "JFK wasn't as great a man"
The CIA in the time frame of the Kennedy Assassnation was liberal wall to wall Ivy League Do-Gooders who wouldn't of hurt a fly so JFK decided to toughen them up a bit. The only time the CIA (Acting against it's own wishes) was made to murder people was when JFK's first priority as President of the United States was the assassination of Prime Minister Lumumba of the Congo, President Trujillo of the Dominican Republic and Premier Diem of South Vietnam .
JgarfbiHoover 1 year ago
@capetown99 paint the Republicans as people like him).
Killermuffin1 1 year ago
@capetown99 Its amazing how so many fools still believe in the Kennedy myth, after all these years, after all the evidence has come out, an archive full of declassified documents. Kennedy sunk us in the Vietnam war. It was his plan to get rid of Diem and Americanize the war. People think we are more sophisticated than people were in 1963. Obviously not. The truth is right in front of us, but we choose not to look. Propagate that Kennedy myth. Its a crock of shit.
Jellolion1 1 year ago
@Killermuffin1 the reason he was so upset because he realized he was responsible for the death of a fellow catholic, which according to his religion, condemned him to hell for eternity. JFK was a devout catholic, as was Diem.
Jellolion1 1 year ago
@Killermuffin1 Its amazing how from this statement made from a third party, people can come to a totally erroneous conclusion, ignoring the volumes of Kennedy records from 1963 in the National Archives. Kennedy was shaken because he knew he was responsible for the death of a fellow catholic, and according to their common catholic religion, for which JFK was devout, this would condemn him to hell for eternity. You dont think that would shake him up a little?
Jellolion1 1 year ago
@Killermuffin1 Ho Chi Minh could believe it when he found out he US killed Diem. He said "how could the do such a stupid thing". Diem was his biggest obstacle, the most dedicated and entrenched anticommunist, and the US just destroyed him. The viet cong wouldnt believe the news of the assasination for a long time. They though it was some kind of trick. They couldnt believe the US would destroy their nemesis.
Jellolion1 1 year ago
Respond to this video... When Ho realized that the news of Diem's assassination was true, and the US has installed a weak puppet government, he recognized immediately how he would win. Now he had a war of national liberation, to liberate South Vietnam from American imperialism, and this was the big fat worm on a hook that he would use to suck in support from the soviets and china. And after the battle at Ia Drang, Giap said we can kill these Americans just as easily as the French.
Jellolion1 1 year ago
He didn't say Diem, he said Jim. How the hell did you mistake Jim for Diem?? Sounds to me like a confession to killing JFK.
dperks63 1 year ago
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richardcorsale 1 year ago
@dperks63 except nobody called jfk jim. they called him jack. the vietnamese pronunciation of 'diem' has the d pronounced more like a z.
grandpathong 1 year ago
@dperks63 That's how they pronounce it in Vietnamese.
kook2222 1 year ago
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After hearing that is there anyone left who does not believe that this old southern racist was behind the assasination of JFK ? He sounds like he is experienced when it comes to getting thugs to kill somebody ? Sound familiar ?
marleonetti5 1 year ago 21
@marleonetti5 yes, I think there are quite a few people who know that there isnt a SHRED of evidence for your bullshit fabrication .
Jellolion1 1 year ago
@marleonetti5 u should watch the video jesse ventura conspiracy theory the jfk one, it explains alot, its on youtube too. nixon and George h bush had to do wit it to
poopmcscoopface 1 year ago
@marleonetti5 You are right LBJ did kill Kennedy. But Kennedy gave the go ahead to depose Diem. Kennedy knew Diem would have to be killed. Johnson was just stating what Kennedy had done.
matrix49A 11 months ago
@matrix49A You re half right - half wrong. LBJ was one of the conspiracy assholes. Kennedy was nor responsible for killing Diem. That was done by those members of the conspiracy, including LBJ. Listen to the "Hunt Diem" video. Hunt, of the CIA, forged documents to make you believe Kennedy was responsible. See & hear his say it. At a congressional hearing. And he was NOT arrested on the spot for that felony crime, proving the CIA runs the country.
barmtraiI 10 months ago
@marleonetti5 I've got an alternative extremely diverse and very "interesting" theory about JFK's assassination. That I would like to bounce around on an online debate, message me back if you'd like to to be a part of it. This invite is available to EVERYONE else out there, that is willing to have a recorded debate online for YouTube.
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DMTGOD3 1 year ago
Thanks God , LBJ already go to "HELL" pay for his crime.
devaodianh 1 year ago
"It is a rare thing to actually hear a U.S. President actually admit to participation in murder"
Well seeing that he was talking about JFK's act of betrayal against Diem (Research 'Hilsman Memo') and RFK's frank admission to Arthur Schlesinger
that 'Memo' "set us on a course that we never really fully recovered from" I think history will record that LBJ didn't admit to murdering Diem and only leftwingnuts with their 'Hatriotic' agenda will believe in this tidbit of tripe.
auther1046 1 year ago
look at what they did..??? betray ally...
thanmagioituyen 1 year ago
The word Corrupt must mean. He was an Honest Person with Good Moral Values.
MegaTriumph1 1 year ago
@MegaTriumph1 Yea. Since I never ripped off or killed anyone, I must be dishonest and have no morals values.
jacobji5 1 year ago
Check out the clip of Howard Hunt admitting that he fabricated documents aimed at incriminating JFK in the murder of Deim.
themeaningoflife38 1 year ago
@themeaningoflife38 Video: hunt diem.
I saw it. Amazing that nothing was done right then and there to put Hunt in prison and end the dominance of the CIA. Of course, most if not all of the politicians are controlled and worthless.
arther1046 1 year ago
@arther1046 And Hunt's deathbed confession of his own & CIA's involvement in the JFK murder were ignored by the media.Seems that would be a HUGE story,but "someone" doesnt want people to hear that kind of talk.
themeaningoflife38 1 year ago
@themeaningoflife38 "Hunt's deathbed confession of his own & CIA's involvement (JFK murder) were ignored by the media"
Taking into consideration that it was a ploy to provide for his drug addicted son, the fact that it was ignored has serious implications. The mass media was on top of the JFK assassination when it happened, no new creditible revelations have come forth since 11/22/63 & this supposed "deathbed confession" has now been filed w/the rest of the non-sense that surronds this case.
auther1046 1 year ago
@auther1046 CIA document # 1035-960 gives tips on how to discredit or disregard any conspiracy talk or disagreements with the Warren Report.
And the FBI changed newspaper stories on 11-23-63.The coverup began right away.
themeaningoflife38 1 year ago
@themeaningoflife38 "CIA document # 1035-960"
Unwarranted Criticism Of The Warren Report by the critics are as follows:
(I) wedded to theories adopted before the evidence was in
(II) politically interested
(III) financially interested
(IV) hasty and inaccurate in their research
(V) infatuated with their own theories
ALL POINTS BANG ON, BULLS EYE'S, ABSOLUTE TRUTH, TRUER WORDS NEVER SPOKEN & JUST THE TIP OF THE TREASONIST ICEBERG THAT THE CRIMINAL COMMUNITY OF RESEARCHERS ARE GUILTY OF.
auther1046 1 year ago
@auther1046 "the FBI changed newspaper stories on 11-23-63.The coverup began right away"
* How come if 'THEY' had the power to censor 100,000's of newspapers, locally, Nationally & worldwide 'THEY' didn't censor the 1st con spiracy hoax books?
* How come con spiracy theorists are never found on any of the 'Mysterious Death Lists'?
* How come the Kennedy family to this day thinks ppl like you are nutty in the head?
* How come you avoided (conveniently) what was in the CIA memo?
Lots of Q's
auther1046 1 year ago
@themeaningoflife38 "Hunt admitting that he fabricated documents aimed at incriminating JFK in the murder of Deim" With JFK taking such a battering of reputation, even his closest allies & keepers of his legacy admitting to his mob involvement, adulterous womenising, leechery, ordering the CIA to assassinate foreign leaders & spy on American journalists (Google CIA Family Jewels) & countless other crimes, I thought it was pretty patriotic for Hunt to take some of the heat off of JFK, right?
auther1046 1 year ago
@auther1046 ---E Howard Hunt---a real patriot-ha! Involved in all sorts of dirty black bag operations nearly his entire career, fabricated documents re JFK-Diem assassination, hada role in JFK assassination (was disguised as a bum on Dealey Plaza), but when he was busted for Watergate, was blackmailing President for $
loyaldude10 1 year ago
now you see how american people treat their loyal friend. this is bitter lesson for my country that belive american will protect us. now we disapoint that they betray us.
NamTuVietDaiTruonPhu 1 year ago
@NamTuVietDaiTruonPhu I had nothing to do with your dissapointment.
Remember, it is not the American, Chinese, Vietnamese, Russian, Italian, French, Spanish, Nigerians, or Eskimo "people" who treat you a particular way or manner.
It is always the current assholes in the political regimes of these countries that disappoint all of the people in the world. I hate the leaders here and everywhere, but I have nothing against you.
10Faenor 1 year ago
@DarylCVinnyVoom444
Tommy Lowery, cdddraftsman, you total asshole.
Schlesinger was a CIA spy. He started in WWII in the OSS before it became the CIA.
His kid wrote about him. That takes care of Art's credibility; just like yours. Worthless turd ball.
lonenutsareliars 1 year ago
This bastard Johnson was involved in the JFK murder. And more, before and after it.
Our votes were canceled.
jacobji5 1 year ago
@jacobji5 thats because LBJ was going to send American troops to S.Vietnam and JFK wasn't so the CIA killed Kennedy so LBJ could be president and send more troops over there.
LittleVinnyCock 1 year ago
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cdddraftman 1 year ago
... and this event had started an American nightmare, began with the assasination of J.F.Kennedy and ended with more than 50000 American deaths.
What goes around, come around - Buddism.
virusSOS 1 year ago
At the time of the assassination LBJ was V P. He did not control policy, Kennedy did. Listen to him again... "They started on me with Diem you remember, he was corrupt and he ought to be killed." Who are they? Answer those who controlled policy and those who advised those who did. They started with me...that is they pressured me. Read "Flawed Giant" R Dellack for a proper view.
backnumber1662 1 year ago
LBJ uncut the biggest dumb president who as VP no one even heard of. Hey LBJ stability came later when Saigon fell.
v19d 1 year ago
Yep LBJ you had to open your big mouth. Lets see if their is any tape of LBJ saying he got his suite 8 buddies and found some assasians called best snipers and shot JFK and give the Texas Governor a wound.
v19d 1 year ago
Johnson was speaking in terms of the national "we." He meant we as a country. He had no involvement in the Diem assassination. During his VP, JFK and RFK routinely cut him out of the big foreign policy decisions. And while JFK gave the okay on making conditions favorable for a coup, he was mortified that the Diem brothers were killed.
deltalitprof 1 year ago
@deltalitprof and it was that and the long list of mortifying things that people like LBJ etc were doing is what gave JFK the complete view of just how fucked up these people were. if there were a biblical hell , it wouldnt be good enough for the likes of a hideous bastard like LBJ
kahetel13 1 year ago
@deltalitprof
Does your crack addict mommy know that you talk like an ignorant fool?
10Faenor 1 year ago
@deltalitprof There is no national "we killed him". LBJ did not help to assassinate in my name. Jfk did not make favorable conditions for any coup. You just make up shit.
cdddraftman 1 year ago
Vinnyshithead's head is full of shit. Misinformed shithead. Wtf, Jfk didnt want diem killed!
1stTrillionaire 1 year ago
@1stTrillionaire Vinnyshithead is also cdddraftsman.
The cdddraftsman screen name belongs to a real person by the name of Thomas Lowery.
lonenutsareliars 1 year ago
@1stTrillionaire oh yes he did. He organised it.And that was known at the time, it was such common knowledge that Morris West wrote a novel "The Ambassador" based on Henry Cabot Lodge's actions. H CL was specifically ordered by Kennedy not to meet with Diem Cable 243 was drafted with Kennedy's approval. Johnson found out after it was sent
backnumber1662 1 year ago
@backnumber1662 uh no he didnt
1stTrillionaire 1 year ago
@backnumber1662 You are full of shit. Dallek (you should learn to spell names) is another CIA hack revisionist. Dallek is all about saying the conspiracy did not happen, etc, etc, and more bullshit.
LBJ knew about the murder of Diem. You are trying to say the Kennedy's ordered his murder, and that is another lie you never can prove. JFK wanted troops out of Vietnam and put out the PO for it. One of the first thing LBJ did after the assassination was cancel it and get the war.
jacobji5 1 year ago
@backnumber1662 HCL was in Hawaii meeting with the generals on ramping up the war; 2 days before the JFK assassination.
JFK was going to bring the troops home. JFK did not send HCL to meet any generals in Hawaii in secrecy. This meant that JFK was already irrelevant since at least that day, and it was not a loner assassination.
Memo: Dept of State,S/S-NSC Files:Lot 72 D 316,NSAMs.
Do you like being someone's ass wipe?
jacobji5 1 year ago
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JFK Assassinates Diem !
JFK instigated a plot to overthrow & kill SV's Premiere Diem. JFK played politics with our lives in Vietnam, he put his election ahead of American lives. He feared that Diem, who was negotiating w/the North, would force Americans out before the 1964 elections. Voice of America broadcasts called for the coup, JFK had cut off pay to the Palace Guard and American advisors were attached to almost every unit that attacked the Presidential Palace.
VinnyShitHead 1 year ago
The Viet Cong made huge advances in the resulting confusion. JFK had asked ex-CIA USAF Gen. Ed Landsdale to go to Saigon & help "get rid" of Diem, he refused. Lt. Col. Lucien Conein was used instead. The fundamental planning document was the 8/30/63 memo to Sec. of St. Dean Rusk from Roger Hilsman Assist Sec. St. for Far Eastern Affairs. It said : "We should encourage the coup group to destroy the palace if necessary to gain victory" & in point 10 it ordered the 'Death of Diem'.
VinnyShitHead 1 year ago
In his book RFK & His Times, WH Historian Arthur Schlesinger quoted RFK’s recollections of the Hilsman cable : “[JFK] always said that it was a major mistake on his part. The result is we started down a road that we never really recovered from” 61'JFK took office there were 800+- US troops in VN, by 63' there were 16,800+- in violation of the 1954 Geneva Conventions, aid had gone up to $400M/yr. JFK : "now we have a problem in trying to make our power credible & VN looks like the place"
VinnyShitHead 1 year ago
This is completely false, LBJ taken in context is refering to "we" as him being VP in the JFK Admin. that assassinated Diem. The infamous 'Hilsman Memo' orders Diem ousted and RFK confirmed it when he said "[JFK] "he always regretted that message, it started us down a road which we never fully recovered". JFK's actions made it a certainty 500,000 troops would be sent.
Spread the word 'arther1046' is a lying BULLSHITTER ! He's known about the truth for yrs but keeps spreading this BS.
VinnyShitHead 1 year ago
LBJ LBJ HOW MANY KIDS DID YOU KILL TODAY. I am 57 years old and I saw this written on so many walls in the UK when I was a teenager......WAKE UP PEOPLE. Please. x
beltanebabe55 1 year ago
some DC pals say yes. this is an well informed group here and even our notions and hunches are probably better than most history books.
They are not even teaching anything regarding the 1960's now, as if it never happened, but the teens are getting cool peace signs and bright colors on everything, I love it fashion wise, but they have not a clue. keep researching.
thepixieful 1 year ago
Diem deserved to be killed- he was a corrupt and ruthless capitalist who did not have a mandate to govern. He passed silly laws like banning Buddhists from waving the Buddhist flag on Buddha's birthday. He ordered the shooting of peaceful protesters and his actions lead to a surge in the numbers of the vietcong and the NVA. After the burning of 6 monks his brothers wife Ngo Dinh Nhu called it a barbecue. Diem and his unpopularity probably helped lose the war. He is like karzai today.
redface626 1 year ago