russ carnahan leaves healthcare forum

[Isbadd]

more doctors are dropping out everyday. I advise you to get to know your personal doctor and offer him cash incentives to keep treating you after he drops out of the system.

[MichaelJGrant]

Aeonicentity, in what part of the galaxy is the planet you live on where the private insurance allows you to choose the person who runs your medical decisions? Every hear of things like HMO or PPO? I have Medicare, a government run single payer plan, and no one tells me which doctor I can see, when, nor for what reason. Most doctors take Medicare, a few don't. However, more doctors by far take Medicare than any private insurance. By your comments, I gather you have never been seriously ill.

[psycho26shon]

@MichaelJGrant blue cross blue shield bitch gets me seen by the doctors that wont see you bruh! from ny to cali. plus im on the platinum plan. but what do you know about working for a living? and even if you got sick and its because of bad luck, well, i feel i shouldnt fit your bill bro!

[MichaelJGrant]

Health insurance companies are ALREADY regulated by every state. How's that working out for you? Health insurance companies DO need to be closely regulated by an entity large enough they can't threaten nor pay off. That's the Feds. Right now, the health insurance companies hold all the cards. The ability to regulate them is limited by their ability to cancel all their policies which would be a catastrophe without a government plan as a backup.

[MichaelJGrant]

I believe our rights are under attack. I believe in habeus corpus, free speech, due process, and all the other civil rights we are supposed to enjoy. As I recall, it was the Bush-Cheney Administration that wanted these curtailed, not liberal Democrats. These liberties should not be confused with psuedo-freedoms like the "right" to suffer and die for lack of healthcare or the "right" of insurers to ripoff the American people.

[MichaelJGrant]

First, the officers in the blue golf shirts, many of whom I know, are FPCC security. They don't work for Rep. Carnahan. They go to great lengths to assure EVERYONE'S rights and safety are protected. There was a time and place afforded for you to ask questions. What you show obviously wasn't it. Rep. Carnahan was provided safe passage while at the same time you weren't tazed nor did you "accidentally " fall down one of the tower stairwells in handcuffs. This time, at least.

[Parley454]

I record stuff on capitol hill and that staffer at the end really annoyed me, acting like the person was a nuisance and that they are guarding an emperor or something, I think kiss ass staffers are a huge part of the problem with the inflated egos of members in congress, they get them doughnuts and coffee and basically make them think they are more important than they are because the staffers have low self esteem and think that being connected to someone important somehow makes them important.

[Juands10]

Yes, we need reform! Health insurance is a giant fraud! But govt. is not always the answer! They want you to always look up to them when you need anything..what we really need is to reform the existing health insurance companies.

[dustbunniesJ]

The healthcare reform bill DOES have most of its provisions aimed toward that. And the CBO, a non-partisan group, conducted a study and concluded that if this bill were to pass, it would result in more employee/employer insurance getting purchased, not less. It would also result in small businesses being able to afford health insurance. And it would decrease the number of emergency room visits that are growing, which we now have to subsidized.

[Juands10]

Yes but your wrong, we need to Directly regulate health insurance companies not indirectly by providing govt competition, then that defeats the whole purpose of a free market. Some want to live off the govt. but they have forgotten that the govt. wants to live off of them.

[hetjaar]

its so obvious that the obama administration is full of shit. they claim they can save money by spending MORE?? that's pathetic liberal thinking. what they are doing is attempting to buy votes by making everyone dependent on larger and larger government sponsored entitlement programs. they want us all on welfare.

[Parley454]

Ya debt is out of control, Dems and Repubs, they don't know how much money they take in, so they don' know how much they should be spending or not spending and they just rack up debts.

[flagwaver1969]

These commies masquerading as Democrats make me laugh. The GOP are hypocrites with Bush's 8 years of fiscal socialism. Both parties can rot in hell for their treason.

[dougmanjones]

So sad to see the right wing of this country reduced to conspiracy theories, mindless flag-waving and rants about a New World Order.

I'll see you in Area 51, right next to the grassy knoll. I'll be in my black helicopter, recording your emails. Nanoo, nanoo.

[Scanman22]

Its even sadder when most of these conpiracies turn out to be embedded in truth. If the people both left and right, would wake up and realize that these gov officials work for the same criminals at the top of the pyramid. If people like you who are so quick to insult, would just do some research on your own, you would find out that government doesnt want what is best for you. It is about money, power, and ultimately complete control. Wake up Doug! You are losing your rights daily. You like that?

[dougmanjones]

And which rights, specifically, am I losing? I think your tin foil hat might be on too tight.

Peace and prosper

[Scanman22]

Well lets see, Habeus corpus is dead, freedom of speech is now being relegated to 'Zones' that you can practice this in, freedom of the press is obviously being infringed upon...shall I continue? There were also new wiretap laws,,,and laws "legalizing" torture.

Alot of this stuff is also still hidden in executive orders and the NSPD. Just look at how government is weasling into every part of society in private sectors. The FED is the worst criminal empire to ever exist. Tin foil? Your clueless!

[dougmanjones]

Assuming you're right (this is a big leap, by the way), what's the alternative? Anarchy? No thanks.

Also, if you haven't noticed...you have free speech. That's how you can write what you write and not be arrested.

[Aeonicentity]

Any time you enable someone to pay for any aspect of your life, you give them power over that aspect. Like the Parents who control your spending habits by reducing allowance, or the banker, who controls your ability to sell your house because they're paying for it.

Do not EVER pretend that by letting the government pay for something you are not giving up rights or personal decision making. Even if they're not spelled out in the constitution, your still losing rights.

[dougmanjones]

Or the insurance company who pays for your medical treatments? Please read what you just wrote.

[Aeonicentity]

I think you miss-understand that because I oppose government intervention in healthcare, that I automatically support no reform, or the removal of insurance companies from the equation. However, now that you bring it up, at least the private insurance system allows you to CHOOSE the person who runs your medical decisions. I would be more in favor of a system where the removal of all health insurance is implemented and healthcare goes entirely on an all cash system. This would cut the costs 50%.

[machngunjoe]

If this is Democracy then this is a sick joke, people rushing in to talk to a "representative" to get in 3 seconds, as if anything meaningful can get done that way

[kasanders2710]

im kinda lost here, whats the purpose or drive if you will of obama becoming a dictator. secondly too become a dictator generally a person has to have military support. i really don't see how the military would back anyone wanting to become a dictator. quite frankly obama probably doesn't own a gun.

[kcchiefsbaby]

You should study the start of the Nazi party. The people were fooled just like you. Nobody ever thinks they will part of a dictatorship. Yup Obama is so innocent he would never do something like that.

[kasanders2710]

Again name the people that will back a dictatorship. Are you seriously implying that the military will back a dictator. Are you saying that the U.S. Military that i work for is unamerican and also dictators? Have you ever been in the military? I bet not, thanks for wasting my time.

[kcchiefsbaby]

Nobody wants to be under a dictatorship you dumb ass, thats why its called Iron Fist, cause your forced to do something you dont want to. Plus I am pro militarty so fuck off, your the Obama lover thats anti military. You want me to name people that will back dictaorship? Nancy Palosi and the democrat party. their socialist that leads to communism.

plus since your military you should know even if the military dont agree they have to follow orders. Plus Obama is a smooth talker just like Hitler

[kasanders2710]

wrong, only orders that the military have to is to protect the constitution. fact is since your so pro-military you know that. you also know that it doesn't say who you have to protect the constitution from. obeying an order that violates a law places you into violation of military law permitting you to be under punishment of the ucmj. hence you get the case of the abu grab m.p.

please educate yourself before you talk stupid on here. thanks +1

[dougmanjones]

Do you honestly think that anyone in the U.S., democrat or republican, would agree to let Obama be Chancellor for life, like Hitler? Come on, man. No one wants communism or fascism (you do realize that the two are polar opposites on the polical spectrum, right?) You're speaking out against things that nobody is advocating. Tone down the paranoia; it's messing up the debate for people interested in actual issues.

[Scanman22]

Good statement! F Obama!

[dougmanjones]

I think you missed my point. Even people that like Obama wouldn't let him 'take over the country.' The whole notion that he would even want to is stupid. Even his supporters, such as myself, wouldn't want him to serve more than two terms. If Obama was actually 'bringing down the country' like so many morons are saying, then he wouldn't have any supporters anymore. Such accusations are dumb, and serve only to spoil the conversation and the debate. I guess that's the point, right?

[Scanman22]

No I didn't miss the point. It is that the NWO members including the Illuminati, Bilderburgs, Free-Masons, and the UN (CFR), are systematically bringing down the United States because free capitalism is a threat to their One World Government Agenda. Obama is just a puppet and poster boy. The people who run these groups like Henry Kissinger, David Rockafeller, and Rothchild truly hate the U.S.! They want to control everybody and everything. They are already preparing for the uprising...

[Skylerscream]

Obama may not be the Dictator of the future, but he will attempt to win the world's "OPINION" to a very liberal and progressive political view that is, yes in favor of a One World Government. Why don't you google "North American Free Trade Agreement"and then "AMERO". You'll soon see the light my friend. Don't look at the person who is spouting all the political rhetoric out of DC, OBAMA, look at his cabinet and check out their extra curricular activity in "Private" organizations.

[kcchiefsbaby]

I just got an email from the white house!!! how did they get my email adress??!! What the fuck is going on??? Their trying to force their beliefs on us for their health care agenda...Dont believe me? ill prove it to you dumb liberal idiots. Thanks liberals for electing the first American dictator...

[Skylerscream]

You may have been "flagged" by a Obama supporter who by chance, came across one of your comments on YOUTUBE or any other website that you may have posted comments on. Democrats are encouraged to give names of people who don't see things the "Democratic" way. White House has a link to flag citizens through the White House web page. I could be wrong about you being flagged, just a suggestion. Take it for what it is. I don't know where that information goes. FBI, CIA data bases? Who knows?

[kcchiefsbaby]

On our way to be ruled by the Iron Fist my friend. Scare the people. Have them depend on the Gov. and then BAM!!! we belong to the dictator cause we have nothing left only what the Gov, will provide to us..

[vinnievanwinkle]

and now everyone is complaining about it...

[vinnievanwinkle]

Ok. ajack50. You are an idiot. You want to VOTE everyone out of office? Think about what you are saying. The majority voted them in to office. Based on the ideals they had. They shouldn't be elected solely on whether they support healthcare reform. I think Obama is the only politician who is worthy of listening to for a second. He didn't take money from lobbyists, so he owes no one any sort of favors. That's why he can/is doing change in this country. We voted for change..

[ajack50]

this bill was put together by attorneys and no one has read the piece of garbage bill,these idiot senators dont have a clue what is in the bill thats why they cant answer questions,wqe need to take this country back and vote every one of them out of office,both parties,start over with new blood and ideas,some of these boneheads just say yes to anything like the stimulus and boy is that working out well,just get it passed ,no new jobs created or saved but whats a trillion dollars or 2 or 5

[kasanders2710]

no thanks i personally like my senator, mitch mcconnell who says no to everything other than taking money from rich states to support tobacco growers. thanks for giving us the $75 million in earmarks from the omnibus spending bill.

[veazey2]

(con't)

the undoing of the entire party because of the backlash. No one would be that stupid. The program largely pays for itself in the premiums you have to pay, preventitive care that precludes costly procedures down the road, and the fact that hospitals will no longer have to treat people for free.

As to this guy's query, it's shitty that the congressman couldn't avert his head for 20 seconds and answer him, but he probably didn't have a definite answer, which is unsettling.

[veazey2]

I don't think that fear is rational. Health care rationing is something insurance companies do because they stand to make an obscene profit. Dropping people after they get really sick, going through their forms with a comb looking for nullifying mistakes, denying people coverage because of pre-existing conditions - that's health care rationing.

A government program is not for profit, so there is little incentive to do that kind of thing. If they past a bill that resulted in that, it would be

[veazey2]

I don't understand your question. How can a government that's just paying the bill be complicit in the death of a patient? If they deny someone coverage who deserved it?

[Bryan1108]

One of the fears of a gov't run healthcare system is that care will be rationed and even denied to the elderly. He wants to know what legal recourse people would have if that happened.

[ae357em]

All is needed is a spark to start the second revolution.

[motortribe]

I have the same feeling it does feel like something bad is about to happen. We are on a very dangerous path.

[kcchiefsbaby]

Obama and democrats are trying to quiet any type of disagreement. They are trying to keep track of any person that disagrees with the health care plan. This is dangerous and it might be the begining of something very bad to come.

[Randomnormality]

Proof?

[kcchiefsbaby]

Go to the dems health care plan websites and see it for your self. It also came out on the news. Dems want emails and people to be reprted to "convince" the people that disagree with the health care plan. yea right!! believe it or not it also came out on CNN.

And the dems complained about the Bush admin and the NSA listening to phone conversations looking for terrorists? Obama is a dictator is sheep clothing waiting for the right moment. BUT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE NOT GIVING IN!!!

[Randomnormality]

Im sorry but im not quite sure about what you are trying to say. I got go check it for myself but after that i kinda fell off...

[kcchiefsbaby]

to put it in simple terms. The obama admin are spying on the people...

[Randomnormality]

well im not gonna argue against that, although i think is extends far before the obama administration. however if you want my opinion, or not, (sorry) i do think there is a problem with health care in this country among numerous other things. And honestly i dont see any way to fix it.

[kcchiefsbaby]

what do you mean it extends beyond the Obama admin? you think this is some big plan?

[Randomnormality]

No not exactly a "big plan" i just think that if any president in recent history wanted to look in on somebody, they could.

[davidurbaniak]

The govt healthcare plan would not play any role in the actual providing of healthcare services, the role of health plan is not changing. There would not be any need to wave the sovereign immunity.

[Ovito85]

lol

[fortsmith1]

These bums will be voted out if they vote for this health care bill.

[crhodes4382]

Rush is only telling the TRUTH........something Democrats HIDE!!!!!!!!!!!

[courtkennedy]

He should just say what he is thinking.....blah, blah, blah........total disregard for what we want......this is not about reps vs dems this is about tyranny vs. freedom

[Ovito85]

wow you really think this is tyranny? you REALLY think obama is hitler? PLEASE STOP LISTENING TO RUSH LIMBAUGH

[swobet]

OVITO85, the dems called Bush Hitler first. It hurts doesn't it. It's about the repubs. spoke up, instead of sitting back and taking it.

[Ovito85]

it doesnt hurt me a bit, i just feel like these terms will put us as a people further away from each other. im all about americans comming together. i just think that these false terms will keep us in the fire

[ne0nsurf]

those are his private security. you people should create your own and BLOCK THEM! JUST GET SOME BIG DUDES IN THEIR.

[donottake]

Carnahan is a drone. This country is being run by socialist blacks and guilty whites.

[Ovito85]

youre an idiot

[donottake]

Pull your head out of 0bama's ass.

[chriscox1121]

clearly an Obama lover who worhips at his alter!

[Ovito85]

no a human lover, life is too beautiful to fight one another , we as all races need to come together to come to a conclusion on how to beat the "MAN"

[TheVirabhadra]

Just look at this pandering piece of garbage!

[ibnmissing]

PASSAIC BLOOMINGDALE Samuel R. Donald E.S. ***** THOMAS R Masters

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$96,800 Elementary Kindergraten-8 Grade

7

from the app(.)com web site, Thats close enough for me ! plus they get 3 months off, free health care, and GET PAID FOR OT

OK OK the average is much lower for the state as a whole, but still benefits out the ass plus tenure. So if they suck they can't be fired with out an act of congress

[BHollivan]

let's get rid of the illegals! stop paying for people that aren't documented. between health, crime, schools, infrastructure, etc illegals cost us 1/2 a TRILLION dollars annually.  They put 10billion into the economy but take 490 billion away. Bet that 490billion would cover some shit!

[klg1956]

Is Gordon Brown on his public health care plan? Is the Prime Minister of Canada on his public health care plan? Is Nicholas Sarkozy on his public health care plan? What about Hugo Chavez? Is he on his social program or Castro?

[mayhemlee]

If you think politicians are going to be on the public health option you are crazy, government has its own SEPARATE little fund for Social Security savings, and for health care. These guys are liars. Don't be fooled.

[SandorFne]

Americans shouldn't have to pay for people to get sick. Half of them get sick just so they can call in sick. But thats besides the point. The real problem in this country is spiritual sickness. What we really need is for the schools to start teaching the Holy Scriptres and the 10 commandments. But paying other peoples medical bills, thats just not right.

[spacelawd]

Yeah you keep telling yourselves the gov't is going tsave health care. Good little lemmings.

[ModernPatriotsUnited]

Next time just ask the question loud enough for the group to hear and record the reaction.Sometimes those moments speak louder than words.

[KingofCzars1]

Check out Dr. Arthur Laffer's comments on healthcare "reform". He's got the right idea.

[roger6060]

How do these people get elected.

[stubritt]

Pilgrim...your side scares me almost as bad as the ultra liberals. You want to force a theocracy in this country but send our soldiers to the other side of the world to fight one...go figure.

[jstan442]

nobody wants to force a theocracy on this country but we were founded on judeo-christian values and not facist values. i want to make MY OWN choices about how i live what i eat etc. not have the gov or czars tell me. i won't be told by any of these lib dimwits what i have to do!!!!!!!!

[erinjaneln]

You can make your own choices. This is just an option for people who don't want to or can't choose the traditional healthcare.

[klg1956]

With the "federal government tax collector behind it", what private insurance could compete? There will be no competition when the gov't gets it's hands on our health care. Don't be fooled, this is all about the gov't getting it's hands on our premiums...that's where the money is and they see dollar signs, just look in their eyes...they'll be able to afford a 535 personal gulfstream jets with that much money in their coffers..while you and I grapple with crappy health care.

[stubritt]

Pilgrim....i don't have to hear that. The bible also says.."as to not burden thy neighbor, he that does not work shall not eat," Don't bring your fairy tales into this! You have no real clue about the origin of mankind.

[pilgrimmpg]

Cain, after he had killed Abel, asked God if he was his brothers keeper. God's ultimate answer was sent through Jesus: 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind' ; and, 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' "

What part of that don't you get?

Why do you hate your brothers and sisters so much that you want to see them keep dying for the profits of the insurance industry?

[ericblr]

Pilgrim, I would gladly give my money towards private insurance companies anyday! I do not want my money going to godless politician who will do nothing more than use my tax dollars to fund things in the medical field which I might find morally abhorrent. You see, if I find the insurance company guilty of wrong doing, I get to drop them and move to someone else. We wont have that ability under Obama Care. So while your reading your bible, think about that one for a minute.

[BHollivan]

you keep spouting the same thing over and over again pilgrim. a tylenol costs $40 at a hospital. Do you think the underwriters @ insurance co. woke up one day and said, "$40 for a pill... that sounds like something we'd LOVE to pay" I do love my neighbor as myself. I find it extremely gratifying that I am taking care of my own family and not looking to the rest of the country to do so. I wish you would get the same satisfaction.

[steelerhog]

REVOULTION

[russrjn]

The only people that act like Nazis are the liberals like Nancy Pelosi and the bullshit things she wants to impose thru Electronic medical Records and fucking micromanage peoples lives just as the Nazis did. I have no doubt she is a secret Nazi sympathizer, since they were Rabid Environmentalists.If you like Eugenics like ramp up abortion like Seig Heil!! Pelosi want to do.

[CuriousMind0]

Wait until your elderly parent can't get medical treatment because it's being rationed for younger people. Who are you going to appeal to? And wait until you see the real pricetag on this piece of crap. This is going to hurt the country more than a nuclear weapon going off over New York City. It has to be stopped.

[myralangerhas]

"and the number one reason for all of that was because people couldn't pay their mortgages because" they got mortgages they coulnt afford!!!

[guitarman687]

what a total loser this guy is...call in your union thugs and beat people up because you're too STUPID to answer questions about legislation you support!

[sandwichpork]

typical Demotards and Libtards in action. If you wait long enough you will always find them committing what they accuse the opposition of doing. There was no violence at town hall meetings just yelling and shouting until now. Now liberal union thugs are using physical violence to intimidate conservative tax payers who just want to exercise their right to free speech.

[snickers6969]

This representative's face is untrustable after only seeing him for a few minutes. I sense something is not right there.

[avibard]

People get real and stop listening to stupid, right wing forces who are for big insurance companies. They are spending over 1$ million per day to defeat health care. What does that tell you? Use your head! Republicans are gaming the system.

[magdamagda999]

avibard

the gov can't even run social security or medicare/medicaid and they think they can "reform" healthcare?

social security is about to go bankrupt in '17, and medicare/medicaid is insolvent.

when the obama fixes social security - the programs they have already mismanaged, the programs that are already there then maybe the american people will trust the gov to "reform" healthcare.

[cindysk8er]

OK Demonswoop, you have one thing right the insurance companies are out of control. But being a slave to the government IS not the answer. Wake up! Thats no revolution, thats going blindly into the night.

[ccfinfo]

Yeah, not to mention the trial lawyers who advertise in order to get sorry as peple to sue for anything and everything they can. This is one of the major problems for doctors. They go to school for years, pay student loans ect. Then have to pay exhorbitant insurance cost so they can practice. I know they are making money, but if the trial lawyers weren't pushing up their cost we could afford the care.

[demonswoop]

Maybe they wouldn't have "prevented" you from asking your question if you hadn't simply lingered until he had to leave, and tried to interrupt his other conversations. Yes, revolution IS coming. Millions of Americans will soon have the health care they are currently denied by greedy insurance companies and right wing class warriors.

[ladalang]

You can tell when this guy lies, look at his eyes.

[SOPMODM14]

The American people are tired of the government, not just "left" and or "right" wing people. Everyone is too busy playing sides to see what is really going on. They're wasting our money, just like they've done under bush, Clinton, and all the rest of them. The fact that people go along with what the government is doing just shows how gullible and clueless they really are. Many people have forgotten that the government is for the people, and answers to the people, not the other way around.

[sinnerjizm]

dsm0012, do you have the same concerns regarding the current healthcare system?

[BabylonShitstem]

loser americans worried about healtcare but not a peep when they wrote the patriot act..lemmings

[hopeurfree]

REVOLUTION IS COMING, I wouldn't want to be a Socialist Pig when it boils over.

[aagraber45]

"REVOLUTION IS COMING"

You neo-con tards truly are insane. Here is the republican party's plan: Scare, lie, scare, no, no, no, scare, lie, no......

Thank Obama the economy is recovering from the Bush recession.

Bush- Worst attack on American soil AND the the 2nd worst economic crisis in American history happend on his watch. What a great President huh!?!

Palin for 2012!!!!! LOL.... tards.....

[OpieDJC]

The whole blame it on Bush thing doesn't really work when you have a president that quadruples the national debt in his first 100 days as president. Especially when he goes on to propose a socialist agenda such as NATIONAL health care and cap&trade.

Since you're so enlightened and informed, I'd like to know how you think government expansion cures an economic recession.

Where did you hear that the economy is recovering? Last I heard unemployment is still going up.

[aagraber45]

Um.... did you happen to hear that July was the best July, market wise, in 70 years!!!! AND, smarty, if you were "enlightened and informed" you would know that unemployment is a lagging indicator and will be the final # to rebound.

Yes.... the "blame it on Bush" thing does work, since the downward spiral began when he was in office.

The government is just trying to save the economy...it's not a "power grab" you neo-con nitwit. Get somemore talking points from your neo-con talking heads.

[SOPMODM14]

Have you ever heard of the depression of 1920? It went away in a year because the government didn't get involved. How can you justify the massive spending that is going on now? In my opinion, neither party does what is right for the people, but what's right for their party. The fact that you still can't see what the government is doing is saddening. Maybe one day you'll wake up like a lot of people are doing. You are calling people "neo-con" nitwits, but both sides are angry at the gov't.

[ccfinfo]

So where exactly did you get your incredibly educated vocabulary? Tard? Get past the hate and see the real truth.

you are obviously a follower and believe everything you are told by the news. Read the HC bill. See what it will do to the economy. Do you really wnt people that intrenched into your life?? You really want government taking care of you? Sad. I take care of myself. You must be a wlefare recipient with no education holding out your hand so that Obamafoon can feed you. Get a JOB!

[aagraber45]

Why don't you expand on what it will do to the economy a bit?

Hey... you every drive on a road, send a letter, use the fire dept., call the police, you like the military? All social programs. AND not to mention the military has a great health care plan... run by the government.

The government plan will give the insurance industry some compitition, driving down prices. It's up 70% in the last 10 yrs. AND you already pay for the people that do not have insurance dummy. They just go to ER.

[ccfinfo]

Yeah lets look at the road in my county. They can't even keep them repaired. We have a volunteer fire department because we can't afford a real one. Let's not even talk about the USPS. If these are the fine examples of social programs that you want to hold up to convince me, well you better go back to the drawing board. The govt can't run anything efficiently. It gets too corrupted because of greed and immoral people. Better to have it in the hands of the private sector.

[ccfinfo]

About the effect on the economy. Well for someone who is supposedly making 6 figures you should already know this. The healthcare industy makes up 1/ 7th of the economy. When govt runs the ins company out of bus lost jobs, when govt causes people to stop wanting to be doctors and nurses ect. more lost jobs. Drug Co folding because they can't make a profit anymore. And, no I am not concerned for your financial position only your lack of ability to understand what will happen.

[aagraber45]

Oh and by the way.... I actually am doing well for myself approaching 6 digits. Thanks for the concern, though.

[ccfinfo]

I totally doubt that (6 digits)or you wouldn't be on here talking about this the way you do. As for competition, the government will run the insurance industry out of bus and then there will be NO competition. Yeah, we are paying for the uninsured. Lets, make the doc & hosp extend the pricing given to insurance co to the uninsured. Then stop the leech trial lawyers. Husband had xray that billed to my ins co for 785.00 ins co paid 65.00. The uninsured would be paying the 785.00. That's crap!

[sfldd]

The day will come when you will be too old, and private insurers will not want to cover you. At that point you will need the government (Medicare). The government won't abandon you, but the private sector will.

[imsailing2]

sfldd - ROFL, oh wait, you were serious? Your so trusting of your government. I have a bridge over some swamp land to sell you.

[sfldd]

You can insult me all you want, but it doesn't erase the fact that what I say is true. By the way, it's "you're" not "your".

[LivingDeadGirl1981]

Uh-oh, looks like the Grammar Police have infiltrated YouTube!

[imsailing2]

Thanks for correcting my grammar. You're pretty smart, so you better read that bill. There are co-payments and premiums, at least for those with a certain income level, like above 80K. (middle class families) We will be taking $ away from our children to pay for others. The bill as it stands now would cost my family $500 PER MONTH more than we are paying now. BTW, you have a mega run-on sentence there in your post, plus a fragment. Not to mention you should not start sentences with "And".

[ibnmissing]

If we have Medicare, what do we need Obama care for ?

[sfldd]

Medicare is for the elderly, and it's a good program. And yes, there would be taxes for universal health care( which Obama care is not), but you won't have to pay insurance premiums or copayments, and you won't be denied treatment, and you won't have to worry about losing your insurance if you lose or change your job. And you won't have to worry about going bankrupt because you can't pay your medical bills. That's humane. The current system is barbaric.

[ibnmissing]

Medicare is broke !

I believe there should be health care reform on the rules and regulations used by insurance co, Not socialized Medicine.

Please show me one government run program that is a success ? I don't want the government in my life or my health care. Tort reform is what we need, but lawyers like OBAMA will never mention that. Illegal Immigration is also a problem.

[sfldd]

What works? Medicare, Medicaid, your local schools, your local fire and police department, the armed forces, your local library, your local, state and federal roads. Tort reform will just help corporations, not you. You can elect a Republican who screams about taxes, but you're still going to pay more. Corporations will get tax breaks, but not you. You'll be paying more taxes and paying more for medical bills.

[ibnmissing]

"What works? Medicare, Medicaid" if it works why do we need health care reform !

"your local schools, your local fire and police department"

My property taxes are 12,000 a year !!!! for what!

"your local, state and federal roads" voted the worst in the nation !

My point is I'm happy with the current system and I'm a registered democrat !

[sfldd]

You sound like you're from New Jersey. Well, that 12,000 you pay every year for all those services will get you ten months of a private school. That's it. Try paying for that plus all the other services I mentioned on your own. You'll soon realize that you're getting a bargain.

[ibnmissing]

My kids are in private school because of the no kid left behind policy. Our schools suck, The teachers make close to six figures, for what ?

Let me just say, In my opinion, the government is not a good provider of services other than military, and I wouldn't trust my family's health to a Government official and expect fair treatment. I would rather have health care bills stacked a foot high than to have my loved one prescribed end of life care because the government decided it was too costly

[erinjaneln]

I"m a teacher, and I'd like to know where in the world teachers make 6 figure salaries, so I can move there! I can't even afford to buy a house. By the way more than 50% of teachers have 2 degrees, so is that wrong they could make that amount (if that was accurate).

[ibnmissing]

I live in NJ in my school district some teachers make 100k their healthcare is 100% FREE so add to their salary for that ok. My guess is they would have two if college degrees if it was payed for by our taxes.

[mrblujet]

Source please.

[ibnmissing]

Source for what ?

[mrblujet]

A source regarding your statement that some teachers in your school district are making over 100K per year.

[ibnmissing]

His plan will deny you treatment just like any other insurance plan except with his plan, There will be no recourse, no legal action,

If you are denied now you have legal recourse

Two questions for you

How will it save money ?

How will we pay for it ?

[sfldd]

It will save many of our fellow citizens from having their lives destroyed by being unable to pay their medical bills. Remember, a big reason this economy took a dive is because of real estate foreclosures, and the number one reason for all of that was because people couldn't pay their mortgages because of medical bills. This is something that has happened to friends of mine. It could happen to me, and it could happen to you.

[imsailing2]

I already don't have to worry about going bankrupt because of medical bills. I have premo coverage. But if this passes I will have much lower quality health care for my family, and I will pay $500 per month more than I am paying now. That is just another welfare program my family will be paying for. They are taking from us to give what we have worked hard for to others. Income re-distribution, that's all this is about. Our current system gives you what you pay for. Jealousy is an ugly thing

[imsailing2]

My husband and I spent 15 years giving 1/4 of our income to heath insurance in order to provide that for our children. It was really hard, a huge sacrifice. We did it because it was OUR responsibility. We lived with less to pay for healthcare. Now we have top of the line healthcare very cheap because we have worked hard for 20+ yrs, and our government is poised to take it away from us & give it to whoever they want. Not to mention how much of it will be sucked down the government black hole

[erinjaneln]

Congratulations. The proposal is just for a public healthcare option. If you like your health care, you can keep it. No one wants to give away your health care to anyone. Please, please, please read the actual facts, not fearful opinions about the proposal before jumping to conclusions.

[BHollivan]

YOU'RE WRONG. This plan takes away your ability to get a private plan if you do not already have one.

[testing88534]

hopeurfree, out of curiosity, what is Socialism and is it the same as Communism?

[hopeurfree]

It ain't over till its over. Socialist will rot before the free people of America bend to their Socialism.

[ccfinfo]

Man I hope you are right. I plan to fight this, and I hope that everyone else wakes up to fight it too.

[ancientcurse11]

conservative fucktards. You lost, get over it. Bush=failed. I know it hurts

[tonyfubu]

oh by the way, vance123456, i'm from the south, the name is Antonio Ramos, born in Lafayette, LA and raised in Lexington, KY. I'm expecting you're visit any day now, i dare you.

[tonyfubu]

how patriotic is it to wish the failure of american states? especially one that was of the original 13 colonies.

[vance123456]

Hey you numb nuts voted for these people. Let California, NY and Michigan fail. That is the only way they will learn. Each state is "SUPER DEMOCRAT" top to bottom. Just don't move down south you liberal ****ks!!!!

[buddybleau]

He said several times our healthcare system is broken. When your car breaks, do you throw it away and get a new one? Of course not, you fix it. We have the greatest health care system in the world. We just need to fix the part that is inadequate. What is broken and needs to be fixed is the goddamn Federal Government. We must get rid of all those crooked bastards in Washington and start over! The politicians are too busy lining their pockets to care about us. We are being sold out!!

[steelnpearls]

Throw the bums out and that way all those who work for them on our dime too will be in line with all of us without a job now.

[3martijns]

leaving forum. How about leaving the country? This man is evil to stand up & tell such obvious bold-faced LIES!!!

[salinagrrrl69]

If you are a Missourian His sister Robin who wants to be elected a representitive, city council people in St. Louis & Kansas City want gun bans big time.

[ScarlettKnights]

Great question!

[dsm0012]

@VinceP1974: I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU and I'm the guy that shot the video!!!

One reason I do this is to learn how to do it well. I also hope others will learn from my mistakes. Freedom of the press is an *individual* right. Maybe people will see it's not that hard... or think: "What an idiot! Just ask your question! I could do this better!" And then step up and do it better than me!

[eroosevelt52]

Congressman, you are a public servant. Why won't you answer the man's question?

[SophieBaiLei]

Missouri....an election is coming up in 2010. Let's take our country back.

[harlyd007]

Sophia, He is my state rep and an asshole! He is NOT getting my vote and I made him aware of it.

[salinagrrrl69]

Make sure his sister who is a BIG time amnesty/ Ilegal alien advocate & a supported of fast track and card check plus a supported of Cap n Tax plus a Big time supporter of the United Farm Workers....make sure she ain't elected in 2010. Want to see Missouri farmers screwed by energy taxes, forced to take as workers ilegals in a marxist union disarmed, & clobberd with animal rights law suites? Oh Gee! Killafornia here we come....Shomee state is wantin' some.....

[bittergunowner12]

Let me guess, she also advocates adding millions of illegals to be registered voters?

[salinagrrrl69]

YES! She is giddi to make Missouri a MEXIFORNIA Killafornia. Big into both United Farm Workers Union and Acorn.

So much so the dye in the Red of those two communisty organizations is emmbeded into her skin. Hey just go L@@K up the name of her hubby. Nothing wrong at all with being Hispanic but be born here first or legaly nationalized. But not for RobinHoodCarnahan.

[annabellejonesify]

What a fucking bum

[VinceP1974]

I'm not criticizing the guy who made the video.. but for the rest of youwatching it.. learn the lesson.

IF YOU WANT TO ASK THE QUESTION.. JUST BLURT IT OUT AND ASK THE QUESTION.

[bman546]

The reason you can't ask him a question is because it will force him to either lie, or be humiliated.

Watch the townhall and listen to the audience laugh and mock him when he spews a total load og sh!+

[c4foru]

He doesn't give a %&*# about anything tose people say.

WHY doesn't Congress have to go with this health plan if it is so damned good?

[thesoothsayers]

The entire system is corrupt and full of rot. Take them all out with the leaders of Goldman's Sacs and hang em.

[grubvillegranny]

This pretty much summed up the whole meeting.