SSBX_Preview_Masashi(Ike)_vs_IKKI(Ddd)_m5

[Amarythe]

whatever fancy name you give it, chain grabbing is still spamming, and spamming is a noob technique... visa, chain grab = noob spam, even if it does take skill to pull off.

[bigdaddyjh2002]

The only people that say that are the people that lose to it.

[Amarythe]

Nope. I've never been chain grabbed.

In fact, the only people who say things like what you said are the chaingrabbers themselves...

Chaingrabbing: Multiple, inescapeable grabs pulled off in quick succession, one after another. Easily pulled off, no skill or practice required.

In other words? Easy, damadge racking Spam. Hurray for noobs who want to avoid a real battle.

[bigdaddyjh2002]

Hm. You said first that it takes skill, now you say it doesn't? And I don't chain grab when I play. If you were even watching the vid you'd notice that he missed the chain grab a few times anyway. And lastly, that stuff normally only works on stage with walls stages like this. On stage like FD you only get them to about 40% before they either go off stage or can get out of it. Oh well. No point in explaining something to you since you wouldn't get it anyway. Have a nice day.

[Amarythe]

"even if it does take skill to pull off. "

What I said. This was written before I had ever tried chain grabbing. Now that I have done it myself, I have learned that no, it doesn't take any skill.

Lol, something I wouldn't get? Don't try acting as if I'm some moron... if your the one who doesn't understand that "Multiple, inescapeable grabs pulled off in quick succession, one after another. Easily pulled off, no skill or practice required" isn't an easy noob win, then I feel bad for you.

[Vwashk]

If you're playing to win, then who gives a shit what kind of strategy you're using?

[llumys]

lol

[llumys]

lol

[LIONELfrance]

Mais c'est qui le trophée aide (assist trophy) du début ? (je pense que c'est Mini bowser)

[Dihgal]

Je peux parler francais un peu. Qu'est-ce que tu veux dire par 'du debut'? Je ne sais pas un 'Mini bowser'.

[LIONELfrance]

Vers le commencement du combat, et les mini bowser, c'est les petits bowsers de mario party 5

[MostValuablePlaya318]

what is wavedashing!?

[BLHtube]

Turneyfags ruin everything

sage

[Xanskar]

4chan ruins everything else

fag

[CervPurp63]

nice chaingrabbing by ikki

[xiaonomercy1]

was 1:04 wavedash? sry if im wrong.

[dudewheresmyguitar21]

hahaha thats actually kinda funny cuz it does look like it, but no wavedashing is completly out of this game (which ill be playing at gamestop in 6 hours and 52 minutes!!!)=)

[boonoston]

things like a big stupid chain throwing dedede is going to make online dumb. if all i can find is noob ass dedede's, and some other dumb newcommers doing stupid moves online... itll be heartbreaking :/ variety ftw... plz?

[InterimOfZeal]

Things like scrubs complaining about CGing when you can get out easily is going to make online dumb. If all I can find is noob ass scrubs, and some other dumb newcommers doing stupid moves online... itll be heartbreaking :/ skill ftw... plz?

[boonoston]

no one HAS to like every newcommer. btw wasn't refereing to established (dare i say common) technique in melee. dedede looks stupid, too F'n bad. and the fact that you umm.. CAN'T communicate in-game is going to make online great

[theragingasian]

Don't get grabbed. And don't play Ike...obviously.

[smashbroguy]

i didnt even know youtube had bots.....

[JakeStrilur]

the game is now selled in japan?

[Tifa697]

Almost. On the 31st it will be out in Japan.

[coldgenerations]

seriously!? kick ass! that means we'll hav more of an idea of the roster!huray for internet!

[Tifa697]

The whole roster has been leaked already. Search for it and you'll find it. =]

[Xolus317]

The whole roster hasn't been leaked. There's still two or three more characters.

[Tifa697]

Hopefully thiers more characters. lol

[coldgenerations]

damn i was hoping for ridley, king k rool, black shadow, medusa, and dr eggman[like evil bosses] but i gues roster is still ok...

[h5e5l5l5o5]

There will be 37 characters, not counting Zero suit Samus and Sheik! :)

[SuLLyZorZ]

are you guys stupid? theirs only 35, it was all leaked yesterday. The last two new ones are wolf and rob.

[h5e5l5l5o5]

I meant to say that there was 35 characters! If you count zero suit samus and sheik than there are 37!!! And don't call me stupid...

[Maddacheb]

in the comment at the top you said not counting retard L2REMEMBER

[h5e5l5l5o5]

That's why I corrected myself. Wow, YOUR the retard...

[Mushroom726]

are you stupid? your lucky you didnt spoil that for me, you really are a dumbass, and coincidentally, an asshole for calling people stupid (for no reason kid)

[drsmeebob]

yeah, dedede looks pretty sweet for a heavy.

then again, the guy controlling him is very good.

[Nightsky071]

Can you stop annoying ppl with your shannigans. go some where else and tell somebody who cares.

[ZaxCG2]

Didn't think DeDeDe would be a character I'd wanna play... but he looks freakin' fun for a heavy! Hopefully this game balanced out the slower characters so they stand a chance.

[naruto22b]

if only ike got all three pieces

[cornjob]

I saw dragoon thinking it was Majora's Mask. But Majora's Mask would be a cool item

[AngelOfIron]

Please don't advertise on other people's videos.

[fishdolly]

This game looks amazing.

[drakel68]

i wouldnt

[HyperBuu]

I haven't the faintest clue why you people post in here while you at the same time claim it's so boring. Fine, go eat shit if you must. Although, I wouldn't eat shit for all the money in the world. Screw that.

[25com36per]

LULZ!

[sncshesh]

bowser Jr. assist trophy at 00:50

He just falls to his death

[ripa9]

I hope it wasnt.

[grimmgamer]

why does ikki always play dedede. he looks like an ice climber.

[israel4506]

king dedee owned ike so badddd XD

[PhozonFox]

vicemannigga have you watched the other vids with these two? That Ike does decently well considering all they've had is a demo to work with.

[vicemannigga]

That Ike was garbage.

[HyperBuu]

Last but not least, I never said items make someone pro. I said that turning items on does not prove that the players skills are necessarily less then the player who doesn't use them. Items make things more un-predictable, thus it makes the battle more fun. Not everyone who uses them, uses them because they feel they'll need them.

[strongbadsad]

FUCK U NERD

[pwninkev]

masashi!!

[jtothed]

was the asssist trophey knuckle joe?

[smashbroguy]

idk dood i think it was baby bowser =(

[smashbrosking6]

I love dededes tech grab.

[dumbassf001]

DEEDEEDEE has some cheat ass moves

[HardGas911]

the characters' motion looks amazing. A real step up from melee.

[ReiShaoKhan]

There is a chance that these things may change, but I am temped to say that some of the glitches will be the same.

Similar game, similar programing similar problems. SSB had Z cancelling, SSBM had both Z and L cancelling.

It doesn't mean that either of these will be in Brawl, but I wouldn't be surprised.

The same goes with Chain Grabbing.

[QuikFingaz]

Well, I sure as hell hope they took Chain Throwing out. Hate that shit...

As far as L-Cancelling goes, that was part of the fighting mechanics intended to be used by the players just like techin'

[Naucitos]

chain throwing is in, one of his other videos has dedede chain throwing

[Pinruts]

I hope Ike'll be a little faster in the final version...

[chrisbg99]

Awesome music in the background.

[irvrod]

at 00:26 i thought i hear falcon punch!

[jerdy81]

nah ur just retarded... :]

[irvrod]

oh thank u

[joldaerath]

I'm disappointed to see chain-grabbing in Brawl. Hopefully this will be patched. So boring to watch.

[honeypot11]

i felt so annoyed myself when the king dedede dude kept grabbing ike xD

[SonicXmario50]

perfect chain grabs with Dx3 ikki pwns

[themaster142857]

ike's up+B is similar to kirby's

[supadupamarioguy21]

DeDeDe's jumps should be a bit higher. :/

[hahahahhaahhahhahaha]

Man no Link footage :/

[ThumbsDownMe]

they both suck wow...

[flame6753]

are u serious? You really don't know what your talking about....

[bellyzard]

what a.t. did ike toss 0.53

[JohnGameMaster]

I like this level its nice and flat good for fighting

[SeleneDelacour]

いっきさん、あのアシストフィギュアはナックルジョーですね。

[MasterLink1106]

This stage is going to be one of my favourites

[slickvixx]

...and this stage is banned in tournies

thx to dedede

lol

[elementeezer]

why?

[Exiio]

Dedede is just overpowered overall.

[Budster650]

Nah, I just think the person who is using dedede is better. :/

[bountyan]

We can't conclude that a character is overpowered just from a 2 minute clip.

[MasterLink1106]

This music is amazing!

[ibeplu]

Didn't it take a few years for people to discover techniques like wavedashing in ssbm? There are probably tons of new things that no one has thought about, barely anyone has had time to play the game...

[HyperBuu]

Yeah it did. Not only techniques, but indeed strategies as well. However, there's only so far one can go with exploitation of physics. Strategies span much farther due to the fact that variable is to their advantage. Whereas like physics itself, the exploitation never changes really.

[trcsonic]

Ocarina music! ^^

[predatorboy135]

That king Dedede guy was so cheap.

[flame6753]

nah he's skilled. He was CHain-ACE grabbing ^_^

[Mutough]

I know! It was pitiful.

[CurlyHayami]

Yes! PLayin' my fave song on the stage.

Btw-take back what I might've said on earlier vids-maybe you like the AC stage(?).

[YuMmYZ33]

No, i think L cancelling is back. You just dont have to press anything, you just land into the ground from an arial. I heard this somewhere

[ReiShaoKhan]

Chain grabbing is back...

I know I haven't seen a wave dash, and it seems like there is no l canceling.

[KarateJg]

Yeah, they took out wavedashing because it imbalanced the game. The thing that looks like wdashing is actually D3's roll. And there also is no more L cancelling

[GoGojiraGo]

it didn't unbalance anything, it was a glitch. Glitches get fixed.

[Bulldonkey453]

I'm so glad glitches got fixed. Kirby's improved so much too!

[GoGojiraGo]

I know, it looks like they're trying to make it a bit more balanced this time. Super Armor for the heavyweights, more fighting and staying power for the lighties, and it looks like some of the heavies like Dedede have some fast attacks to help out their overall slowness.

[HyperBuu]

Yeah it seems that way. I mean, Bowser wasn't exactly a sucky character, but he did lack certain techniques that could have helped him along more in Melee, otherwise he'd be used more often. Thankfully that's been ironed out. Hopefully, Mario Kart Wii irons out that similiar problem, which was profoundly large in MKDD.

[GoGojiraGo]

only thing like that I noticed in DD was how the computer characters could accelerate like bullets and catch up and pass you when you're using Mushrooms. But that's something that's been in every Mario Kart game to date.

Here's a tip, game makers. Programming the computer to be cheap does not make it more difficult, it just make it annoying.

[flame6753]

Wavedashing wasn't a glitch. It was purposely put in the game.

[GoGojiraGo]

Then why is it gone from Brawl? And why was it really good for some characters yet horrible for others? And why is it so hard to do?

Glitch

[HyperBuu]

Yeah, if it was perfected and deliberate, it would have to work for all characters. I don't necessarily know WHAT to call it exactly. Whether it be considered exploitation or not, however, yes, I am glad that it's not in this time. If only certain characters can pull it off, I'd rather it not exist at all really.

[ReiShaoKhan]

You are right.

The argument that it is not a glitch was that it was found out before the game came out and it wasn't taken out.

People also argue that L cancelling is not a glitch. It doesn't seem like there is L cancelling in Brawl. If so, Ike would have been moving way faster, or maybe it is in, but they toned it down. Some games do turn past glitches into gameplay mechanics in later versions.

[FunkBish]

Except the game isn't out.

[flame6753]

Hard... to do... its a freakin air dogde, slanted, towards the ground, one of the easiest manuevers in the game.... WOW lmao hard to do, you just brigtend my day, thanks.

[GoGojiraGo]

uh huh. I've tried with every character, just to see how this glitch worked, and got nothing.

[ReiShaoKhan]

I don't know what is up with air lag in this game though.

It seems like Kirby is safe after his airs, and some characters might be safe. It almost seems like Kirby is doing an L cancel, but if there was something like L cancelling in Brawl, you'd bet that Masashi, Japan Rank 2 would have been moving faster.

[yousuckatlyfe]

damn yo IKKI is a fukin beast!

[godzillaBR]

Omg the music.

[joodude]

I 2nd that

[ShinyRayquaza2]

Well, too bad neither of you will win.

[PitOwnsAll]

No guys. Im confirming this right here and now. It isn't bowser jr. so hes not deconfirmed for brawl. Thats a koopa kid. You know, the three little koopas. Ones red, ones blue, and ones green. Thats a red one. Bowser jr. doesn't look like that.

[GoGojiraGo]

it's Knuckle Joe, don't you check the Dojo?

[Josh0]

hmmm is that AT knuckle joe..or possibly bowser jr?? lol meh probaly knuckle joe

[mattatmyspace]

what was that a :53

[Timmel9]

it was definitely an assist trophies my guess would be knuckle joe

[rahnyc4]

is it me or is Sakurai making his characters more powerful than the rest. anyone remember the E for all videos. i remember reading impressions that said meta knight was favored for his moves, cause they were so wild and always produce victories for the person who play him. now dedede look like another character, then again i have to see him fight other characters

[Sanders2107]

Knuckle Joe

[cooleo123402]

Who was that AT that jumped of the stage?

[cpcpcpcp123]

I wanna see the Dragoon :(

[MFZ95]

woah the demo roster is so small,i mean for a try,when i MAY get my hands on this demo i would choose Mario.

[TheShiningFists]

why? you already know how he plays!

[CALEXinc]

i love the dedede combo when he grabs and drops and grabbs and drops then smash

[alondite215]

I HOPE they fix DeDeDe's chainthrow's. That is ridiculous

[molasies]

it would be ridiculus if u couldnt get away from it, but u can see that ike gets away at 2:27 and counters DDD's chain thing so yeah i dont things nuttin is wrong here.

[SexyBibliophile]

Good Stuff. DeDeDe looks awesome, especially for a heavier character.

[OMGitsaBLAST]

OMG the guy who is playing as king dede is such a BITCH!

and dede himself is kinda cheap

[sebast007]

This game is going to own!!! I can't wait to get my hands on this gem!

[tgva8889]

Wow, Dedede throws like a champion. That down throw is ridiculous.

Ike looks much slower attacking-wise than any other character ever. Which might be a problem for him.

[YoruTaro]

Oh my god...Dee Dee Dee is so f***ing cheap...

[friendlydiplomat]

These new videos are great but the sound quality is really muffled!!! gaaahh.

[XSilvenX]

AGREED. Youtube is can be sad sometimes..wheres the logic lolmao.

[XSilvenX]

Youtube can be sad sometimes***

LOLMAO!!!

[smashbroguy]

i woudnt count on baby bowser they already have too many mario characters as it is

[kdhvdsfkj]

Did I see a golden banana from the game dk64 in the video? it was around 1:16

[GoGojiraGo]

I saw it too. The Curse of the Golden Banana confirmed for Brawl.

[Eponuts]

Actually that's the nosecone of the Dragoon.

[morfingaunt]

It's a piece of the Dragoon, a super vehicle, from Kirby's Air Ride.

NOT a golden banana.

[ShinyRayquaza2]

Man, I wish I had a widescreen TV at home.

[XSilvenX]

LMAO LMAO!!! Thanks you made me feel better about having a 22 inch HD widescreen.

[ShinyRayquaza2]

Piss off.

[h5e5l5l5o5]

You can make an ebay projector, that's what I'm going to do... :)

[ShinyRayquaza2]

Not to mention that they must've not checked the Dojo at the time.

[BlazikenYoshi]

Boy, you two are asking to be banned, with how overly degrading you are. Great footage of Brawl, and all you two can do is insult others. Get a life, honestly.

[Wolf657]

after looking at the vid over and over im starting to think that is knuckle joe and not bowser jr.

[SuperMario221]

I really hope that assist trophey was knuckle joe, because i REALLY want Baby Bowser to be in Brawl

[avindra]

dedede looks amazing

[duracellz1337]

Wavedashing already even before the game comes out :p

[yuckyteeth]

i dont think there's wavedashing in this game

[KarateJg]

Actually it isnt wavedashing since Sakurai said he took it out of the game.

[LirokMurasame]

its either bowser jr. or 1 koopa kid, because knuckle doesnt jump like that and there are obvious spikes on its back

and i doubt koopa kid because they would prob be in 3s

[CubanKid1221]

Those spikes belong to Knuckles Joe's hair.

If you zoom in at the right moments, you can clearly see that it's him.

[trippin4]

What is this ssbx?

[kaihedgie]

It's Super Smash Bros. X, the Japanese version fer the game, Super Smash Bros. Brawl

[esmooth65]

BOWSER JR COMFIRMED!

[SUNKiSSDROP]

Actually, it's Knuckle Joe...

[DylanHilldog]

I swear to God that I posted that idea on the official website-my name is Metroid-Kirby(smashboards dot com)

[mikolyyyy]

when is it coming out

[00beever]

march 9

[iluvLBC]

can u now choose wat color your character plays???

[redrambo3]

yeah you can choose, that's what makes it so good! :)

[BlueLikeWoah]

You could always choose what colour your Character plays as, even in Melee.

[Bulldonkey453]

Ya, I think you just press on them.

[FoulPlay001]

You could do that in every SSB game.. Ugh...

[azuredreams717]

Seems like the Kirby characters have been buffed in such a way that someone new to the game can pick it up and do well with minimal or no knowledge of tournament technique.

[Toesrus]

just like in ssb64

[PhredLevi]

Boy, those Dragoon Parts all come at once really quickly, don't they?

[FrogKid28]

finally you guys pick a different stage.

Weird that Straight-Up Battlefield isnt included.

Waddle dee Spammer!

I wish the Brigde's Crack wasn't so clean.

What AT is that at 53? Bowser Jr... :(

shoulda been playable... Out of my top 5 (Meowth, Junior, Krystal, Midna/WL, and Baby Bros) I'll be lucky if I get Krystal...

[Bulldonkey453]

That looked like Bowser Jr. The one who fell of the edge right? I thought it was the enemy bike off of Kirby.

[ComradePajitnov]

That exploit that they're doing with Dedede's Up Special is driving me nuts.

[ComradePajitnov]

Oh wait that's a chain throw. Nevertheless, it's still REALLY annoying.

[SSJ2TeenGohan]

I agree, every video I have seen with Dedede, they spam it.

[Hitzel]

You mean the videos of the same two people playing?

[SSJ2TeenGohan]

Umm duh, who else posts these videos? lol...

Haha @ 174209.

That chain throw MUST be escapable. I abused Sheik's too much in Melee. And now, with DeDeDe's, it might break the game. Hopefully, it's just that the Ike player has no idea how to escape it or they'll take it out in the real game.