Grind Time Now Presents: Rheteric vs Lund part 2

[DLcKxFTR]

that wasnt close.. you want to see a close match. check rhett vs scatterbrain

[Claytron830000000000]

@FridgeNatious no....

[1nDoSmOk31]

Poor Lund, always loosing.

[MrFatalBeast]

@1nDoSmOk31 he only lost twice lol

[smeerios]

The first few seconds of this video were disturbing. "Thats ya boiii!"

[xxSABOGxx]

please.rhet is the basquiat of battle rap.lund had to many fillers in his raps.

[metalheadrapper]

rheteric's sid vicious line went way over people's heads

[senatorkenator]

Man, Lund has such incredible breath control and delivery, but his lyrics just aren't that consistently clever. He goes with the violent lines too often. Plus it doesn't help that he always dresses like a complete douche.

[dallasbagley]

I really think Lund got this one.  Speaking of Lund, where the eff is he?

[acdoubleu]

Rheteric edged it.

[Ninorey123]

the battle was dope, but this OT wasnt that great lol.

[TheLemonSnowball]

ATLGAY.

[brashaudp]

i'm on tha west so i aint hatin on the left coast but this battle was Lund ALL DAY!!! he got strait robbed...(put the money in tha bag!!!)

[angrykeeper]

@brashaudp for sure man, rheteric doesn't actually rhyme well enough anyways

[ThaVMan]

KILL ATLA

[JamieKusick]

mannnnnn... Mr. ATL is such a fuckin loser lol

[MrAlexcole123]

check out this boner blond kid behind the judges striking vanity poses and shit.

[MisterTaub]

Lund bodied in 3. I didn't even listen to Rhet's OT

[Mothaafrica]

who's mr atla

[Sori360]

Not a huge fan of Rheteric, but he held it down in this battle. Lund was too repetitive for me, although his flow was smoother then Rheteric's.

[lilrizq]

" get da -uck down here and do the dishes!"

[johndoeuhoe]

to the guy sayin lucky is the dopest rapper in there haha cma sucks and lucky is why cma sucks...dudes lame worst of all the legends

[chuckzilla12]

@johndoeuhoe

really Justify the Means is probably the best album put out by any living legend

[offroadfulltime]

Luckyiam....is the dopest MC in that arena..you ever hear of the living ledgens...or c.m.a......do some homework b4 you start calling a beast .. gay

[chuckzilla12]

@offroadfulltime

u catchin hate for sayin that? WTF i agree with you completly

[DanteasCoverBoy]

Whoever battles last in OT usually wins...That dear journal shit put the dear diary shit in place...Rhet should never ever ever use that third round shit again...its for the birds hahaha

[Kingphilosophy]

Snap and Pop? ATLA is a goof!

[esamuels88]

is juckyjam gay? i hate seein him after battles

[madestmax67]

Why does it matter if he is?

[esamuels88]

curiosity

[offroadfulltime]

hes the dopest mc in that arena..living ledgens...c.m.a...do some homework youngster

[MurphGiovanni]

organik looks like a weird ass alien

[tsacnaes]

Choreographering

[iLLshakes407]

That's a damn shame man...that crowd was sleepin' on Lund. Dude had bars, fuck "presence". Lund took that shit.

[DimebagDillion]

We got it, but the whole Sex Pistols line on Syd Vicious is already played out.

Not that good to begin with, IMO.

Rheteric won EZ.

[dagreatcapri82]

I think Lund won that easy.

[williespade]

okay..send lund back.

[o0UekiKousuke0o]

Mr. GAYTLA is the corniest host ever.

[5mithNwe55on]

that finger snapping shit was too much

[McPhillipsHearing]

WOW too many faggots on the Fresh Coast honestly....you're fucking lucky I'm not there to serve all you bitch ass wrappers! Why are you fucking SNAP DANCING like bitches?!?!? Real talk Rheteric's Bar Exam battles were more entertaining, but Lund....I'm getting sick of these racist wiggers thinking they can spit just because they see it on youtube and mimic the flow. One of these days I will SERVE all you fake emcees on GT and you'll never rap again!

[CH0CWAVE]

Um, to talk all this shit and not have ANY CREDENTIALS to back it up, makes you look foolish. Get a life and off of the west coast's dick.

[williespade]

how do you get "battle judging credentials"

[CH0CWAVE]

By Battling and getting your rank up through music or whatever it is your into. He just knows people, and has wealthy relatives.

[williespade]

Yea... lame so that would state that any opinion Okwerdz, math hoffa, dumbfounded have about battling is gospel. ehhht! wrong.

[CH0CWAVE]

How is that wrong? They have gained the experience through years in the game, they earned the right to state their opinions, you have no say in shit.

[williespade]

Yea i guess my battling creditentials mean nothing because i've never been in grindtime or scribblejam. your just an idiot.

[CH0CWAVE]

You don't have to be in Grindtime or Scribble Jam you ignorant fuck, I never said that. What I said is that you have to earn your rep to drop your thoughts. There' more to it than Scribble Jam and Grindtime you fuck.

[williespade]

And so i guess to be a rap battle critic... like yourself you have to watch a lot of battles and give your opinion by your logic. the point is your irrelevant. and anything you think is as such.

[CH0CWAVE]

No, to be a rap critic, is to know what the fuck "rap" is.

[Kyoungin187]

@McPhillipsHearing racist wiggers? isnt that a racist generalization in itself

[DaKidAwMe]

LOL you fail hardcore... The dude snapping is Mr. ATLA... he's from ATL guest hosting this battle at BOTB... Lol plus you said racist wiggers? hypocritical much? You probably suck at rapping too seeing as how you have nothing posted up so son, plz... stfu

[getalifesoon]

good luck homo.

[nicksabluey]

Check the dude combing his hair in the background at 2:56 lol +1

[H34RTL3SSINS4N3]

ATLA

..

LOL

What he did after Syd's heartless thing and SONS ghostwrite your shit thing

And now this.

[pellar1]

fuck that snap dancin bullshit WTF GRINDTIME

[stevefrommi]

Rheteric often sounds like a knock off of Soul Khan, but the other guy had no lyrics whatsoever. He just rapped fast enough to get himself into OT in a battle he should have lost before then.

[jux55]

what was that?

00:20

hahaha....

[FreeDeodorant]

Worst Overtime Ever

[jtholla44]

overtime sucked...we were the only loosers

[TheOfficiality]

Rheteric got it. Lund is nice, but his lines don't hit that hard enough. He has good delivery, but there isnt much to his bars.

[kikokazuma]

Lund has great flow. He can chain words together great. but he lacks substance; his insults suck. So he goes in for a minute with a hot delivery but nothing interesting to say.

Rheteric on the other hand is a funny motherfucker. However he does have the poorest flow of any GT battler i've ever seen.

Something is better than nothing, and that's why Rheteric took the win. That's why people hate judging his battles, cause they know Rheteric sucks but he manages to edge out whack battlers.

[modestejahsi]

dis was da wackest battle of bob5 so far

[ultranattt]

leave it to a marine to associate any non white or black person with a beard to be a terrorist. weak closers on each of his rounds.

[vebdaklu]

RHeteric took this,hands down...I don't know what are you people talking about.Lund had no crowd reaction,and theres a reason for that - no originality...He was just boring...Rhet brought it weaker than the 3,but still held it down better than Lund(and is far more creative with his flow and lyrics)

[sypher889]

guess atlanta not welcome in cali lol

[14jguti14]

mr atla is a fool

[curtfrmcali]

I dunno. i think lund might have been dick'd. Rheteric stepped it up, but i think Lund had more punchlines, better cadence. Well rounded flow. I dunno. it was very close.

[sanitary103]

yes, Rheteric has great presence but he didn't have enough bars to win imho..lund beat him..quit with the biased judging

[roastlonely]

Lund loses by the fact he is lyricaly lacking in any real fresh creativity or humour.his racist 'jokes' come of as ignorant ill informed and out of the realms of humour....he trys to make up for this with desperate aggresion and imagined homophobia..wich isnt very creative at all...not much fun involved and doesnt convince me of him being a hip hop mc.

Rheteric wins by virtue of creativity in structure of composition and word play in this battle.

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[UntilTheDeathOfMe]

Lund won this battle. More biased judging. "I just prefer his style." And I typically don't like Lund.

The crowd sitting there giving stonefaces to Rheteric's punches...and then giving him a W? Please.

[Paymenow]

If you're going to do race jokes, be creative with it.

Rheteric took this.

[eon001]

Lund won this imo. Some bias judging. Most of the judges are friends with Rhet.

[chessdawgz]

Lund got NO fucking reaction, but Rhet still took that

[superflypuffins]

man...i'm just not sure about rheterics rhyme patterns, I like his prescence and how hes sarcastic and stuff but I swear some of it makes no sense rhyme wise.

[kijishiroukasen]

with his rhymes, its like the punchlines come before the set up. thats why it seems off.

[superflypuffins]

yeah fair point, not saying hes weak by any means and i'm all for people breaking from formats and not sounding the same def, maybe takes a bit of getting used to or summink.

[kijishiroukasen]

Yeah, if you don't feel his bars you just don't feel his bars lol. That's just how it goes. I wasn't gonna start flaming you like "oh you're stupid!!!oneshift11!!" or anything, lol. Respect, homie.

[superflypuffins]

Yeah man I didn't think you were being like that for sure, I just felt maybe my first comment was a bit negative, As an MC myself i hate it when people online just slag off people who are actually out there doin stuff. Just wanted to point out that I'm not one of those dudes lol. peas.

[BIELS1]

i agree....dont get it twisted rhet is dope.! but Lund took the W on this one.!

[MaxwellSage]

Lund lost because of his young ass t shirt and lack of swagger. Cali is all about swag. I would have given it to him based on his thoroughness though.

[DaProlifik1reaLyrics]

Fuck Lund for being genuinely racist. I know grind time likes to put racial shit in their punches and at the end of the day it's all love, but that dude's really racist. Maybe he needs to figure out who the true terrorists are, cus none of em wearing turbans far as I can tell. Bin Laden was a CIA informant, Ronald Reagan gave Saadaam those wmd's to fight Iran, that's why Bush was so sure he had em. I wonder if ignorance really is bliss.

[mclace]

I dont like this why did lund get slept on so badly

usually the west is good but i smell bias rhetoric took forever to say some that was average at best.

[jj237]

seriously

GT get rid of this ATLA guy

hes fuckin garbage

[LTMaloney33]

they are..thank god

[D0KT3RD00M]

WHAT IS ATLA DOING.. WHAT A FAT ASS.

[baller4life123rt]

mr atla is a bad look for gt.. i dont like him

[SANTHIIII]

ATLA is awkward

[ithisguyi]

dizaster a good judge?

[Wobbothe3rd]

Not really, but he's not a bad judge either. Don't agree with his decision.

[grantdeeps]

rheteric been trash...dudes on his dick givin him votes cuz they feel sorry for how wack he is and never wins shit...lund had this in 3 ez

[Wobbothe3rd]

contrary to what Lund said, Rhetoric has actually won a lot of battles. The only reason he came off so whack in jumpoff is because there were no crowds. Rhetoric been killin shit in LA but before the youtube cameras.

[D0KT3RD00M]

word up. project blowed, basement and even way before that. he is one of my favorite underground mc's in L.A.

[iron3624]

reth looks like immortal technique haha

[groveallday120]

lund n 3! and n da ot! 757 bad newz! i will be n buildin next week! do ur thing homie u got robbed! 2 up 2 down!

[Ruffdogg21]

as soon as this nigga Rheteric open his mouth his side start cracking up and laughing. I mean his bars werent that hot the majority of the crowd is west coast. and they give it to him because he had more crowd support....Lund was robbed Also Okwerdz looks like a panda bear in the face and Organik looks like a skeleton with a hat on

[MaxwellSage]

rofl, Mr ATLA was hella mad that it went to Rheteric. Rheteric had more swag, but Lund was more thorough... I would have given it to him. As for the bias... Dizaster is from the same city at Rhet and he voted for Lund. Don't try to say it was homefield advantage.

[Zerkercandy]

hmm figures there all west coast judges

[xentech]

mr atla is such a prick 'by a hait, gtfo out of here he was whoring his division to the max' faggot never belonged in GT

[burntsouljah]

for real, atla came and popped it into OT baby, what the fuck? this dude is so gay thank god hes gone. now we need the other dude gone too.

[DealerDirekt]

Rheteric kept his composure and came with the fresher bars. Lund brought some heat but as far as style, I wasn't getting it at all.

[daninja158]

okayy we need to find out who is the dude with the hair problem lmaooo

ive already seen 3 other comments on it

put the comb down my nigga lolz

[Ndure13]

the crowd wasnt showing lund love because he was saying some strraaange fuckd up shit which came off as alittle more than ur average battle diss.

[trademark310]

lol and it still looked ridiculous after he comed it.

[rjpark]

Diz surprised me.. i think Lund took it as well.

[ibelieveinyouandm]

Rheteric has a slower Soul Khan sort of style.

[HayzeRagex]

Robbed

[electrodinobot]

dead crowd

[rmoyer]

Yeah that crowd was showing Lund zero love the whole time. He was rippin it. Obvious wrong decision, but the judges always just go with the crowd, so no surprise.

[jusfaso]

Lund got him........

[OkwardMovements]

i love how lund reuses frescos lines...

[DevilzSpeciez]

i've seen Rheteric come a lot harder than this..Lund had it in 3.

[yourmothersmells34]

man lund got like no reaction he was fuckin dope def wanna see him battle again rhet is ight but lund took this imo liked that fresco reference

[mdsklz]

robbed

[jockinwhatimrockin]

i say Lund won. hard diecision

[itechman]

west coast is on some slum shyt.

sooooo biased.

[xtheoutcastof1x]

the entire battle was awful

[johnnyappleseed]

Robbery

[trademark310]

Hahah Rhet looks like P Nut with his beard shaved lol

[kazi07]

fuck grind time they always do the same thing take this battle to atl and have judges from down there judge it there will be a whole different out come gettin tired of that shit tho peace OT oops i mean GT

[jemar200]

i think lund took first 3 rounds and it was a tie in OT so i say lund is the true winner

[wilsongb100]

Rheteric doesn't rap nor is he funny because he takes forever to say a punch line. Hes a wack Comedian Rapper but he tries.

[txtitan20]

Rheteric was boring as fuck. Lund had this easy.

The West Coast Bias was in full effect.

[diabolic42090]

Lund seems like he's somewhat new to rapping but has potential to be a force in the future

[daninja158]

O.T. wasnt that hard but wtf can you do

..........

most def gunna look foward to both of there next battles and see where they go from here

[stuslegend]

god damn every time i see these atl division "hosts" i hate them just a little bit more

fuck they have such a corny swagger

[TrueDarkSavior]

I don't know what to say to be honest with you. You watched the battle. I wasn't impressed at all with this O.T. it was like they were going to the O.T. and said "aw fuck it" and just rapped whatever left over shit they could remember.

I'm not a fan of this battle at all, It was meh. It wasn't the best battle to watch. I figured that it was West coast gonna take it. I had lund ahead, but whatever.

[powderedwaterpudding]

Dammit. All Lund had to do was come with better punches for the OT and he'd have taken the W, but his raps were flat. Can't bet Rhet on his home coast like that.

I also wish that LuckyIam had laughed at Mr. Atla's little dance in the intro... and then sliced his head off with a kitana blade, dead serious like.

[nFrizBox]

when i see organik, i want to punch myself in the stomach

[getalifesoon]

I hate to say it but that Mr ATL really is annoying and needs to quit hosting.

[310thegame228]

yeah man,,at first i was like why does everybody hate this guy,,,then i watched this battle and now i know hes a dickhead lmaooo

[kenyata]

very tight battle

[SixShottaJ]

thought lund got that in 3 .. it is wat it is tho

[uresai]

lol 5 thumbs up I gave u one

[8ai3]

fag spotted...in background while judges talking, combing his hair tryna get camera time......hilarious

[GunzGot5]

camera time?lol, i didnt even notice him till you pointed it out lol.

[trooperjoe73]

That's how the Fresh Coast gets down!

[503goonie]

organik look blazed lol

the decision wasnt bias, the fact that it went to an OT in the first place is beyond me.

[jungleboy270]

That was a very close battle, Rheteric got that though. Gotta give my props to lund, best rapper that I have seen from ATL on the Grindtime circuit.

[GunzGot5]

hes not from ATL thats the thing he just reps the division

[blee9787]

i dont get why organik says its crazy and then it wasnt harder than the first 3...hahaha

[n1ggyn1ce]

everybody in GT West tite w/each other, judges/emcees. If u don't win the crowd, it's ova.

[DIRTYHANDS89]

Mr ATLA look sad to announce that another atl rapper lost hahaha atl just can't win lol

[GunStreets]

MONEY GANGGG

[ucantboxmein]

dont sleep on lund .. needs to get a few more under his belt

[imbb1]

LUND GOT CHEATED

[KJtheMC]

The reason LUND didnt get crowd reaction was cause he came to Oakland with Mr. ATLA. Think about it.

[KJtheMC]

Damn,that was CLOOOOOSE! Couldn't call it.

Mr. Atla is gay, for sure.

[dallasbagley]

yeah, i kinda feel like lund took that one. as far as atla goes, i'm not even going to hate, seems like that's a current trend. he just needs to relax and be himself.

[oTECHNiiQUEo]

WHERE THE FUCK DID THEY FIND THIS MR ATLA GUY? i thought lund one honestly

[whatthefuck66666]

2:56 - 3:04

[xEVANNx]

1) LOL @ dude behind Kail and Intuaition combing his fucking hair.

2) Lund and MR ATLA are both huge faggots!

[MRLEGEND1984]

That was BORING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[imakeucry]

Lund took that shit in my eyes just no croud reaction for sum reason..but yea ok battle big ups to both!

[darcytalbot777]

i think lund ended it tooo...

[andrewluca5]

MR ATLA is a massive joke

[dda030582]

i HATE mr ATLA! Who the fuk is he anyways?

[n3rds3y3vi3w]

obvious bias in this one...

[azareal]

How much yall wanna bet that if Rheteric said the stuff Lund had said in his verse he would have gotten a crowd reaction that would have shook the place. Im not callin the west coast biased but come on now Lund was nice and he didnt get nothin but lil peeps. you could here a penny drop and crikets chirpping in that place when Lund was spittin.

[azareal]

even tho the crowd reactions sucked atleast the judges gave Lund his props.

[makeshift13]

lund reminds me so much of dirt bag dan.

[JaedmCIVIC]

LUND !

biased decision

[misterlivic]

ummmm wacc battle 1nce again....GT SUCCS LATELY

[DarthSkater6]

Lund is such an EX-I clone it's crazy.

[definition1988]

Lund took that

[ItzVDUZEN]

y erbody dress like my nigga plex?

[SecretSword]

promo for the gear.

[Pointblank2k4]

I think it's because they're sponsored by I.M. King.

[ItzVDUZEN]

Good Answers....Well they need more colors n styles then cuz it look like mr.atla is wearn plex clothes from last month videos but maybe i'm trippn

[pouringblue7]

haha