Moon Landing

[x0danibabyx0]

0:12 man getting out of a blinking purple panda!!

[marshalllucky]

the moone landing did no happen, the van halen belt would have kell the astronats, if they went moon how come thare is no evidents after all thees year, you shouls read up about these hoax

[JamaicaGold1]

@marshalllucky uuhhh I'm afraid the ship never reached that far into the magnetic field. The moon is located between the inner and outer belts. The inner belt is not even powerful enough to interfere with our communication satellites. The dangers offered by the outer van halen belt were easily circumvented using the Faraday principles. You're a little behind on your physics.

[Narek456]

wtf lol

[kixigvak]

I watched it live on TV in my parents' backyard. Shot a cool picture on tri-x with my Rollei.

[courchesns]

what happened to the original tape....???????

[scorp8pus]

The only person who has done any "moonwalking" in the last 50 years was Michael Jackson!

Peace Michael.

[greenboggart]

Brilliant! Will silence all the conspiracy theorists.

[xzktplm]

LOL! You didn't understand the video, did you?

[greenboggart]

Actually I was joking

[frankensteinmoneymac]

oh yeah...high quality tapes that have been mysteriously 'lost' for 40 years......only to show up coincedentaly on the 40th aniversity.....Yes this is highly believable--It is not as if the technology to clean up the moon landings footage so it shows exactly what they want you to see exists.....I mean or else you would see peole making fake tapes of them landing in stuffed animals toys or something........oh wait a minute I guess they have done that.

[deepsinK]

It's just coincidence. Your verbal diariea however isn't.

[frankensteinmoneymac]

Wow....the raw & powerful mind of the potty mouth intelectual! What other logical deductions can we hope to hear, argued with such lucidity? Perhaps we can learn that 9/11 conspiracy theorists are "poo poo" heads....or that believers that the ancient ruins of the city of Atlantis can be found in Bimini are simply finding "petrified dog turds"? I am alive with anticipation....bravo my friend...and well done!

[deepsinK]

You should lay off the acid and accept the logic that it really did happen. In fact theres recent photos from the LROC that prove everything is still there. And tell me since when did this turn into 9-11 or Atlantis discussion? Maybe chance doesnt exist in your book and you can make the wildest deductions from anything. Continue on rainbow sailor.

[frankensteinmoneymac]

I was just using some popular "alt" type theories to illustrate my point of you being a potty mouthLOL! I could have just as easily said Bigfoot, or the JFK conspiracy....neither was I endorsing such Ideas...per se....just borrowing them to illustrate a point. Chance certainly exists, COULD be chance or it COULD be conspiracy...only the evidence proves or disproves it. Why would pics from the same agency which alledgedly faked the first pics be considered proof?

[deepsinK]

Because there wasn't proof they were fake to begin with? Why would anyone in there right mind think something of such magnitude would be faked and no one from the inside never leak a word over 40 years later? And now you want to think these high resolution images are also nothing more than 3d-generated. You probably wouldn't believe anything even if you worked at NASA while live hires video streamed back from another manned moon trip.

[frankensteinmoneymac]

Actualy the proof that they were faked has been blazingly obvious all this time. Heres an experiment that will prove it. Go listen to actual UNEDITED ORIGINAL audio from the moon mission. It takes 2.52 for a signal at lightspeed to go from earth to the moon and back simply being reflected....that means that there needs to be this long of a pause between each question and answer from command to the moonwalkers. There often is not...This is innexplicable according to physics & proof beyond doubt.

[deepsinK]

you're an idiot. feel free to link me to this 'blazingly' (lol?) obvious evidence you speak of because I'm quite sure it doesnt exist and you're just pulling shit out of your ass.

[frankensteinmoneymac]

Well one video I knew about on here now says "this video is private"-which Ive never seen come up before on here.....So I'll look for another good example when Ive got time in the next couple days or so. As for your other reply....how many of these 'half a million' actually would be privy to the information of it being hoaxed. Keep in mind in order to hoax it they had to go into orbit. I'll say more running out of room. Ill just reply to your other comment.

[frankensteinmoneymac]

Well as I stated in my last coment (a few days ago..sorry to keep ya waiting Ive been kinda busy)

The clip I was going to show you doesnt play anymore it says *private* whatever that means.....(why would a vid meant to show evidence of moon fakery be made private??? isnt the point of such a vid to show it to people??) Anyway I got on here looking for another good one...saw a couple but then I thought "one clip will never convince anyone". So U should do what I did.{continued in another comment}

[frankensteinmoneymac]

{continuation of comment} actually this is the second comment Ive continued like this....just thought Id say that so no one gets confused by continuing from one comment to the other. But like I was saying.....Do what I did....go you your public library. You should find hours of unedited moon footage. This will be much more convincing than a single clip.

[deepsinK]

At the height of the Apollo project almost half a million people were working on it. Yet in over thirty years, not one of these half million people has come forward to say he was part of the conspiracy and provide incontestable evidence for it.

[frankensteinmoneymac]

Ok......here is my continuation...of the other reply. Keep in mind that the Us Gov keeps BIG secrets every day. For instance how many people do you think work at area 51? Yet who but a few loons have come forward saying that theyve worked there? The ones who have claimed such usualy discredit themselves with talk of aliens n such. I believe....Other than the crazies no one to my knowledge has publicly claimed to work there. Im sure there has been at least 500,000 workers there over the last 30y

[smidoid]

2.52 what? Seconds, minutes, days, weeks, years? What's the point in giving a figure if you can't be assed to provide a unit!?

If they had gone to all the trouble of faking it they would have got the audio delays right using technology that existed even 40 years ago. I expect you also believe in a god.

[frankensteinmoneymac]

Yeah....I must admit I didnt even notice that I did not provide a unit.......but yeah it is in seconds.....

And your arguement is the hight of circular logic....{they would not have (missed something so obvious) so obviously they didnt}.........even though they obviously did!!!!!

ps although belief in God has nothing to do with the arguement....I believe in a general universal consciousness...but I do not believe in worshiping it blindly :)

[smidoid]

Dude you have to lay off the schoolboy logic. A circular argument has to be delivered completely by the speaker. If you happen to imply something, that's your own imagination, not my delivery. Now, the 2.5 seconds is the return trip. The conversation would, therefore, have 1.25 second gaps - and sound slightly stilted: which it does - not forgetting the "roger bleeps" as they un-key the mics.

[frankensteinmoneymac]

Not sure what you think circular logic means but I was replying to you stating that A if they had gone to the trouble to fake it they would have gotten it right....which naturaly implies that it is right therefore it is not wrong. That my friend is what is termed circular...it cant be so it isnt.........!! Now simply logic shows you are wrong about the gap I will explain it in another reply for sake of room

[smidoid]

No. That's schoolboy logic. I know what circular logic is - and you made it circular.

[frankensteinmoneymac]

As for the arguement between schoolboy vs cicular logic....I shall be the better man and simply capitulate, cave in, comply, concede, desist, drop like a hot potato ,and many other synonyms....concearning this arguement...not necessarily for it be that I am wrong....which I may be...but I simply no longer care :)

[smidoid]

I see you can quote a thesaurus more accurately than you can spell/type? It is up to others to judge who is the better man. This does not relieve you of the responsibility of posting pure piffle, using straw man arguments and pwnd attempts at wit and baseless logic. As for your "Commander Data" impression, I would remind you that synonyms are often inexact. You would have to concede this argument NOT capitulate to it. But you're not, you're just trying to be smart to salve your wounded ego.

[frankensteinmoneymac]

Well, actually I was kinda inspired by your remarkable transformation from saying thinngs like "Dude you need to lay off the..." to a few replies later saying "until then I bid you adieu"LOL...I thought the transformation was so funny I thought I might give it a try...But sillyness aside....really....is this what you are down to. Sticks and stones are not gonna hurt my arguements and this is all youve got left to throw...your starting to just look ugly....stop. Or argue for real with science.

[smidoid]

If it's real science you want, bring it on. Not parroted rubbish you've heard from your equally gullible North-American counterparts. The devil is in the detail - and given that you can't be bothered to attempt to disseminate between capitulate and concede (other than parrot them from a thesaurus) then you lack the intellect or intelligence (or perhaps both) to argue science. Now you're confusing "straw man" with "ad hominem" - this disregard for the basic of logical fallacy is pathetic.

[0Mensa0Euclid0Fan0]

Hello there smidoid I just wanted to make a comment. I am a fellow skeptic of this moon hoax. I wanted to just say, SHUT UP! This Frank nut is making a fool out of you and you are not even realizing it! He is obviously a much more logical thinker than you. I am suprised that he believes the way he does, but he does, & he can argue his point much better than you. So my advive is give up. I don't know enough about this subject to argue it with him and neither do you. You will keep losing. Period.

[frankensteinmoneymac]

Well smidoid old buddy.....I did give you real science...You tried to explain it away, and I showed you that you where completely wrong. Then you just resorted to calling me names and attacking me without truly trying to tackle the ideas, just dismissing them.

PS You said that I was confusing "ad hominen" with "straw man" even though I never used either one of those terms....so how is that possible?! Tellya what bring some o' whatever UR smokin and we'll bury the hatchet over the peace pipe K?

[smidoid]

You called me ugly - that's ad hominem, when you were resorting to straw man attacks on my arguments. Where, precisely, did you offer any REAL evidence? I know how long the conversations took - I was there, listening to them on a black and white TV.

E.G. A circular argument has to be given by a single speaker to make it circular.

You haven't offered a single scrap of testable evidence other than figures we can't validate against recordings we don't have. It's that simple. Show me EVIDENCE.

[frankensteinmoneymac]

Ok.....so youve showed Ive supposedly used ad hominem and straw men...even thought I dont agree (by the way I did not mean that you where literaly looking ugly! only that the way you were acting was ugly!! I thought that was obvious. The evidence has been easy to find the whole time. I could find a clip but I dont think a 20 sec clip would be very convincing. Unless you want me to copy hours of footage and send it to you I suggest you go to the library! That is exactly what I did to verify this

[smidoid]

Not agreeing with someone does not make them ugly; unless your command of the language is too limited to find a better word. There isn't room on this "board" to explain the errors in your reasoning, either.

Once again, you're making statements without backing them up - the onus is on you to post the unedited tape. 10 minutes of original, unexpurgated material would be more than enough.

If it exists.

[frankensteinmoneymac]

Oh I forgot to finish my first thought...You state I used straw men and ad hominen arguements......Which I dont agree with but I wont argue that. What you said was that i was confusing the 2.....which I do not.. Also I just realized....YOUVE SEEN THE EVIDENCE IVE GIVEN YOURSELF You state that the rec. should only have 1:25 delay (which I proved wrong) & you state that they do indeed have such a delay and sound stilted. HOW DO YOU KNOW U said the tapes "dont exist" after all LOL

[smidoid]

2.5 seconds is the round trip time. HOWEVER. If we hear the reply from moon first and then control answer, there is NO delay at all. For instance.

Moon to NASA: "The Eagle has landed"

NASA to LEM: "Roger that, the eagle has landed"

NO perceptible delay. LEM's *reply* would take 2.5s to get back, of course.

BUT this is academic.

Yet, I haven't HEARD a scrap of evidence. You sound like an ignorant creationist citing evidence that you can't produce.

NOW POST REAL EVIDENCE SOME OR SHUT IT!

[0Mensa0Euclid0Fan0]

Dear smidoid, will you kindly shut up. You are not truly ignorant of the fact that someone can be ugly simply by the way they are acting are you? You seem to be completely delusional. How you can argue there would be no delay under any circumstances totally boggles the mind. Frank, as misguided as he may indeed be is just making a huge fool of you sir. There are plenty of examples of unedited footage. And by what you've said you have seen some. Are you trying to make non hoax believers look bad?

[KnightChatX]

@smidoid I totally agree with you on this part. And don't mind these guys they are sameones doing the same exact thing on my video too Ironic. These guys like to fight, insult, and argue more than have reasonable discussion. We all know 1+ 1 = 2 but to them it's 84 and nothing will convince them otherwise so you know where that conversation goes.

[frankensteinmoneymac]

{this is my reply to the second part} Now I have heard slightly differing numbers for whatever reason from diff sources so we will say they are approx so that does not become an issue. Moon guy: Hello (takes 1.25 sec) to reach earth NASA: hi there (takes another 1:25 seconds to reach the moon)......1:25+1:25=.....I'll let you figure out the math...might be good for ya...therefore from a spoken word to reach earth and a response to that spoken word to reach back takes 2:50 total....simple math

[smidoid]

Radio energy takes about 1.25 seconds to reach Earth from the moon or vice-versa; and your sarcasm simply reflects your childish unwillingness to accept the facts when they are presented to you. Hi there (from moon) - takes 1.25 sec to reach NASA, but from NASA to us, it's a fraction of a second later: we hear Aldrin speak and mission control reply in effect, instantly. You also forget to include the how long each speaker actually speaks for; this effects the perceived delays.

[frankensteinmoneymac]

No you are obviously forgeting the fact that they cannot respond until they have heard the entire message!!! In your example the Apollo Astronaut would have to start replying while he is still listening to the question!!??!? This is realy simple. You seem to be stretching logic to the breaking point to save your answer there. One party says something now go 1:25 forward till the next can hear it. No time warp both parties have to wait. Now another 1:25 to waited to hear the reply. now add.simple

[frankensteinmoneymac]

PS I should have added to the first reply that if you had something different implied by your comment that differes radically from what would normally be implied by the words that you typed then please explain what that implied meaning is...if you had no implied meaning then your sentence ignores all reality and simply states your belief without even a theory to back it up.....sounds a lot like blind faith to me.....who believes in God now?

[smidoid]

If you wish to rephrase that in cogent English, I'll be happy to. I watched it on TV, live, and I've seen scientists bounce lasers off the mirror left up there. For now, I'll leave you to believe in whatever you want to. Perhaps you can present evidence to the contrary for us to examine; until then I bid you adieu.

[frankensteinmoneymac]

You do realize that the Russians have one of those mirrors up there as well right? I guess they put men on the moon too!

Dont believe it? Check it out. The mirror proves nothing more than an unmaned probe landed which is exactly how the Russians did it. Yet for some reason this is alway the trump card the 'ignorant of the hoax' crew always brings up....if this is the trump card....then I think it just makes the job of us 'hoax knowers' that much easier!

[smidoid]

Well I never would have figured that out. Of course the bit about ME watching it on TV - complete with the audio delays - escaped you. Now, if you care to present a properly thought out argument with authoritative material, I'd be happy to examine it. Meanwhile, the rest of us will groan with sadness at your mind-numbing ignorance. The demonstrable evidence of moon landing or 9/11 hoaxes might not hang a dog, but they'd convince Sarah Palin - who also thinks the world is < 12,0000 years old.

[frankensteinmoneymac]

Oh...my sir......comparing me to a REPUBLICAN!!!!! I will have you know that I am a tax-paying Democrat!! LOL!!!! All kidding aside...youve stopped thinking...youre just attacking now...and thats not fun. And its not useful to me. Beware when you pass that point where anger takes over logic. I know the truth can shatter our beliefs sometime. Argue your points as well as you can. But dont dismiss mine as ignorance. Think of the term. IGNORE -ance. Who is doing this? Me or you.

[frankensteinmoneymac]

Hmmm yes I appologize for being childish such as when you said qoute "I expect you also believe in a god." LOL

Any childishness my friend is certainly unnecessary but I remind you that you were the one to start us down that dark path....so until you chose to take some basic courses in logic or arithmatic....I bid you dear sir.....adieu

[potatoseven]

Great!