TOM HILLS DOJO - GOJU RYU - SIMPLE FIGHTING WRESTLING MOVES

[mark1983peace]

Hi there,

At the start of the video one person performs the kimura arm lock when mounted. It is impossible to submit somebody from that position, they have all the movement and leverage and are WAY more likely to finish the supine opponent.

The only two objectives when mounted should be to minimise damage taken and to escape the position. It IS possible to attack, but only for the purposes of freeing the hips from underneath.

The first lock shown works from the guard and side mount

[TOMHILLSVISION]

@mark1983peace Mi Mark, Thats me performing the so called 'Kimura'. When I was doing this move over 50 years ago (I have been wrestling since I was about 6) it was called a 'reverse back hammer', strange that in that time I have submitted many people, a few in real fights. Ian who I am doing it on is a police officer (not adverse to a struggle) and a competent wrestler and MMA fan. He seems submitted. You may note I have both his legs trapped. So not impossible by any means. Regards tom

[mark1983peace]

@TOMHILLSVISION You DO have his legs trapped but he can just move his knees up into the armpit area to free them since your arms are lifted. I've only been training twelve years in total, but I will have to experiment with this technique.

It is widely accepted in the grappling community that you do not submit when mounted.

The rule is: "POSITION BEFORE SUBMISSION"

Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm sure that any other experienced grappler watching this video will agree with me.

[TOMHILLSVISION]

@mark1983peace I have discussed your comment with experienced practitioners, 1 has done Jujitsu and wrestling for 43 years and has competted MMA, he agees with me & has also submitted many opponents with this technique. I note you are 27 years old. Half the time I have trained. I only know of 2 rules in combat: Rule 1 - There are no rules in combat. Rule 2 - read rule 1. I'll try and remember your 'RULE' & 'IMPOSSIBLE' next time my arms about to be broken, I'm sure it will give comfort to many.

[mark1983peace]

@TOMHILLSVISION

lol, ok

You commented on one of your other videos that you take moves from goju ryu kata and modify them for the ground. You have a lot of standup skill, and I respect you as a fighter.

Next time your arm is about to be broken with this move just move your knees up and slide off to side control

[TOMHILLSVISION]

@mark1983peace Hi Mark you seem like a nice bloke, but trust me if the escape was that easy it would not be worth using the move at all. I have his legs jammed and the technique comes on quick. A shoulder rotational cuff injury is no fun - I have had a few. Like all grappeling or any technique for that matter - there is always an escape. But they don't always work hence 'tap out'. Thankfully we would not be defending against pro wrestlers either. Thanks for your comments and interest. tom.

[centurychild93]

Very cool to see a Goju Ryu club trying these things. I train both Goju Ryu Karate and Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and I happened to notice a small mistake. At 0:35 you go for an armbar but cross your feet the wrong way. If you crossed your feet with the other one on the bottom you could apply better pressure to the opponent's face/neck to better keep them down.

[TOMHILLSVISION]

@centurychild93 Hi thanks for your interest, we do these techniques with many varieties, I sometimes use the heel on the carotid artery of the neck and pressurise it with thre other foot. Either way has advantages and disadvantages and like all combat techniques its hard to generalise. But thanks for your comments. regards tom

[MrGojuyudansha]

Very informative.

[ralphreef]

Very effective, I tried this, takes you by surprise!!