@rosswoof Thank you so much for agrreing with me.....I often feel like I am stuck in that story : "The kings new clothes" and I am the only one who can see the King isn't actually wearing any....
@becs512 shotokan (all federations jka skif etc)its like that.useless unpractical bunkai and no drills against real life attacks.no drills against loe kicks,no against roundhouse/hook punches or takedowns.only ippon/gohon kumite thata are attacks with oi tsuki.stepping punch.shotokan gives karate bad name
It doesn't matter if the attack was performed with a "stepping punch". The defensive move will still be the same if the attack was performed with a shuffle.
Firtsly...no one will ever attack with a "shuffle"..it will be a full on "going for it" punch...Nothing like a basic stepping punch or, shuffle punch as you describe it.
If you watch his bunkai he still teaches catching a punch with both forearms.....heaven help us...
Quite a lot of techniques can be done relaxed because you can get more waist and leg movement into the techniques, stiff sholders are not the way to go.I think Kanazawa is showing this type of method based on his tai chi background
gyus, i think he knows a lot of budo / karate, but based on videos seen in Tube what bothers ( at least me ) is that he demonstrates them a bit too careless -and does not take / make techiniques controlled to full end. when training this kind of stuff you should have good control of movements - all the time - you avoid also injuries that way.
They could have paid a professional narrator to read the explanations to the techniques. Also, seems like all his ukes dont know in advance what to do and are ultimately confused by his "english". These DVDs are overpriced for what they offer.
hahaha i thought i told you to get a life already? man you most really love the internet acerwk your just everywhere. =] acerwk is the new super geek of 2009 lol I bet if I click on another shotokan page you'll be on it huh? lmao
@acerwk In other words, you like to show that you are more knowledgeable than even people who've studied martial arts intensively throughout their entire lives will ever be. Thank you! I mean it. I could only dream of becoming as good as you and do it while spending half your life on videos of a style you don't even believe in. That said, please don't let us ignorant Shotokan practitioners hold you back on writing your new book. Youtube comments aren't gonna convince anyone or make you any money
@FoieGras I only show that shotokan sucks!nothing more nothing less!This bunkai is unpractiacl and dangerous!If you dont understand and you think this shit is for real then you are even shotokan teacher so you make money from this or stupid.so simple
@acerwk 'unpractical'...'then you are even shotokan teacher'...'this or stupid'...Your mastery of language is world-class. I'm struggling to keep up.
Ok fine, your only objective is to expose how impractical (sorry, 'unpractical') it is. Did you form your opinion from Youtube videos or did you actually go and experience it for yourself? From what I can tell, there have been plenty of people that have used it successfully. And yes, we've done plenty of drills against Mawashi/Ura-mawashigeri.
None against the Kyokushin low kick (which is pretty unique), I admit, but we've done drills against leg sweeps. And pardon me for not realizing something so simple. Say that it really IS 'unpractical' as you say, are you really 'convincing' anyone by posting bull on every vid? Personally, I think THIS is ineffective as well and serves well in making you look like someone whose life is quite empty outside of Youtube. You know, cause I admire what you're doing and care about your reputation.
@acerwk Ok, fair. No defense against these, but all styles don't have defenses against everything, most only focus on the ones they deem important to look out for in attacks. As far as I know, most styles don't teach you how to properly defend against attacks as HEAVY as Shotokan's as well. It may not look like much but a forward-stepping oi-tsuki from Shotokan is hard to defend against as well (even moreso for Shotokan's Yokogeri Kekomi).
Finding a defense for the Mawashi-tsuki is simple once you're exposed to it, and the thing is people are constantly doing research on what IS effective, especially in styles in Shotokan.
Just like many people who don't understand Jujutsu think 'man, that's gay' until they find out the hard way that they're powerless in that style's territory. But hell, Jujutsu doesn't address any of the above either
@acerwk It is NOT 'so simple.' Maybe against beginners, it is, but an experienced person can see you lean towards the direction you're planning to shift. You'll need an extra layer of protection with a strong block or be damn good about hiding your intentions, which in itself takes a LOT of practice.
Furthermore, no one goes IN with an Oi-tsuki, Like all other styles, people begin with kizami-tsuki, which in Shotokan, is already heavy - there are plenty of people knocked out with one.
Hell, what you say with bunkai won't even apply when you're not in range. Shifting will take care of those just as well. If application was all there was to the formula, you're better off studying all Chinese martial arts, which are even more bunkai-rich (and the bunkai are more well-established).
Shotokan concentrates on moving your body efficiently in terms of power-generation, which is just as important. It's NOT an in-fighting style
@FoieGras oi tsuki is the most easy move to avoid.it take a lot of space and you can see it miles away.study others martial arts and you will see how easily defend against that type of attacks
@acerwk Heh. I have studied Hung Gar (very application-heavy; a mix of tiger and white crane which is what Okinawan karate is derived from), which is my foundation and preference and Kendo. I tried my hand at Muay Thai, BJJ, and boxing as well, but those aren't for me. Sorry, but if it's easy to avoid, you have a shitty teacher who doesn't know how to read movements or he releases his punch early or you're just that good at hiding where you're going to dodge. So what have you studied in depth?
From my personal experience, the people who make distinctions between styles are arrogant and are usually the ones who don't train seriously. You may be different - I don't know. But I'm not going to change your mind at this point.
However, as a PERSON, not as a martial artist, it's extremely irritating and utterly non-constructive trolling on every single vid. You don't like shotokan - WE GET IT. Go take your shit somewhere else where people care (good luck with that)
@FoieGras anyone with little experience in martial arts and good maai can defend and avoid shotokans oi tsuki.its the worst telegraph move.sorry that lost your time with this shit
This is just..........well.......
For a "Master" still to have students attacking with a "stepping punch"...says everything.....
becs5120 1 year ago
@becs5120 sad to say, but I'm with you on that one.
rosswoof 1 year ago
@rosswoof Thank you so much for agrreing with me.....I often feel like I am stuck in that story : "The kings new clothes" and I am the only one who can see the King isn't actually wearing any....
becs512 1 year ago
@becs512 shotokan (all federations jka skif etc)its like that.useless unpractical bunkai and no drills against real life attacks.no drills against loe kicks,no against roundhouse/hook punches or takedowns.only ippon/gohon kumite thata are attacks with oi tsuki.stepping punch.shotokan gives karate bad name
acerwk 5 months ago
@becs5120
It doesn't matter if the attack was performed with a "stepping punch". The defensive move will still be the same if the attack was performed with a shuffle.
iBeansOnToasTi 9 months ago
@iBeansOnToasti
Firtsly...no one will ever attack with a "shuffle"..it will be a full on "going for it" punch...Nothing like a basic stepping punch or, shuffle punch as you describe it.
If you watch his bunkai he still teaches catching a punch with both forearms.....heaven help us...
becs5120 9 months ago
@becs5120
Why would no one attack with a basic jab? Im sure some people would and attack with full force and commitment.
iBeansOnToasTi 9 months ago
tips from the legend...
oleczuz 1 year ago
Quite a lot of techniques can be done relaxed because you can get more waist and leg movement into the techniques, stiff sholders are not the way to go.I think Kanazawa is showing this type of method based on his tai chi background
BigTeri1954 2 years ago
gyus, i think he knows a lot of budo / karate, but based on videos seen in Tube what bothers ( at least me ) is that he demonstrates them a bit too careless -and does not take / make techiniques controlled to full end. when training this kind of stuff you should have good control of movements - all the time - you avoid also injuries that way.
ccthedragon 2 years ago
They could have paid a professional narrator to read the explanations to the techniques. Also, seems like all his ukes dont know in advance what to do and are ultimately confused by his "english". These DVDs are overpriced for what they offer.
hippocanjump 2 years ago
no good!
acerwk 2 years ago
hahaha i thought i told you to get a life already? man you most really love the internet acerwk your just everywhere. =] acerwk is the new super geek of 2009 lol I bet if I click on another shotokan page you'll be on it huh? lmao
anhkhoinguyen 2 years ago
You will find me in all videos that sucks!In all Shotokan videos...
acerwk 2 years ago
@acerwk In other words, you like to show that you are more knowledgeable than even people who've studied martial arts intensively throughout their entire lives will ever be. Thank you! I mean it. I could only dream of becoming as good as you and do it while spending half your life on videos of a style you don't even believe in. That said, please don't let us ignorant Shotokan practitioners hold you back on writing your new book. Youtube comments aren't gonna convince anyone or make you any money
FoieGras 5 months ago
@FoieGras I only show that shotokan sucks!nothing more nothing less!This bunkai is unpractiacl and dangerous!If you dont understand and you think this shit is for real then you are even shotokan teacher so you make money from this or stupid.so simple
acerwk 5 months ago
@acerwk 'unpractical'...'then you are even shotokan teacher'...'this or stupid'...Your mastery of language is world-class. I'm struggling to keep up.
Ok fine, your only objective is to expose how impractical (sorry, 'unpractical') it is. Did you form your opinion from Youtube videos or did you actually go and experience it for yourself? From what I can tell, there have been plenty of people that have used it successfully. And yes, we've done plenty of drills against Mawashi/Ura-mawashigeri.
FoieGras 5 months ago
None against the Kyokushin low kick (which is pretty unique), I admit, but we've done drills against leg sweeps. And pardon me for not realizing something so simple. Say that it really IS 'unpractical' as you say, are you really 'convincing' anyone by posting bull on every vid? Personally, I think THIS is ineffective as well and serves well in making you look like someone whose life is quite empty outside of Youtube. You know, cause I admire what you're doing and care about your reputation.
FoieGras 5 months ago
@FoieGras sorry for my bad english.its not my native language.Im talking drills against mawashi tsuki not geri.hook punches not kicks.
acerwk 5 months ago
@acerwk Ok, fair. No defense against these, but all styles don't have defenses against everything, most only focus on the ones they deem important to look out for in attacks. As far as I know, most styles don't teach you how to properly defend against attacks as HEAVY as Shotokan's as well. It may not look like much but a forward-stepping oi-tsuki from Shotokan is hard to defend against as well (even moreso for Shotokan's Yokogeri Kekomi).
FoieGras 5 months ago
Finding a defense for the Mawashi-tsuki is simple once you're exposed to it, and the thing is people are constantly doing research on what IS effective, especially in styles in Shotokan.
Just like many people who don't understand Jujutsu think 'man, that's gay' until they find out the hard way that they're powerless in that style's territory. But hell, Jujutsu doesn't address any of the above either
FoieGras 5 months ago
@FoieGras Tai sabaki.So simple.
acerwk 5 months ago
@acerwk It is NOT 'so simple.' Maybe against beginners, it is, but an experienced person can see you lean towards the direction you're planning to shift. You'll need an extra layer of protection with a strong block or be damn good about hiding your intentions, which in itself takes a LOT of practice.
Furthermore, no one goes IN with an Oi-tsuki, Like all other styles, people begin with kizami-tsuki, which in Shotokan, is already heavy - there are plenty of people knocked out with one.
FoieGras 5 months ago
Hell, what you say with bunkai won't even apply when you're not in range. Shifting will take care of those just as well. If application was all there was to the formula, you're better off studying all Chinese martial arts, which are even more bunkai-rich (and the bunkai are more well-established).
Shotokan concentrates on moving your body efficiently in terms of power-generation, which is just as important. It's NOT an in-fighting style
FoieGras 5 months ago
@FoieGras oi tsuki is the most easy move to avoid.it take a lot of space and you can see it miles away.study others martial arts and you will see how easily defend against that type of attacks
acerwk 5 months ago
@acerwk Heh. I have studied Hung Gar (very application-heavy; a mix of tiger and white crane which is what Okinawan karate is derived from), which is my foundation and preference and Kendo. I tried my hand at Muay Thai, BJJ, and boxing as well, but those aren't for me. Sorry, but if it's easy to avoid, you have a shitty teacher who doesn't know how to read movements or he releases his punch early or you're just that good at hiding where you're going to dodge. So what have you studied in depth?
FoieGras 5 months ago
From my personal experience, the people who make distinctions between styles are arrogant and are usually the ones who don't train seriously. You may be different - I don't know. But I'm not going to change your mind at this point.
However, as a PERSON, not as a martial artist, it's extremely irritating and utterly non-constructive trolling on every single vid. You don't like shotokan - WE GET IT. Go take your shit somewhere else where people care (good luck with that)
FoieGras 5 months ago
@FoieGras anyone with little experience in martial arts and good maai can defend and avoid shotokans oi tsuki.its the worst telegraph move.sorry that lost your time with this shit
acerwk 5 months ago
a 10th dan
tiger557 2 years ago