RCA Selectavision SGT 200

[cranie4]

This wasn't a total waste of technology. A lot of what was learned here was carried over to CD's.

[gmoneystyle85]

I was very lucky to come across a working player off of ebay this past month and have been watching the few movies I have and it works great. The only way to stop/slash flip the disc is to just put it down to load right? I only ask because it was scaring me to have to literally stop the movie on a dim by pushing the button to load as opposed to there actually being a literal "Stop" button

[gimnazjalista97]

niestety nie mam tego odtwarzacza rca selectavision sgt 200 ale mam dvd

[crazywhitedog78]

It's hard to tell but that video quality looks quite good!

[fntsydrgn]

This was that 8 track style stuff...but damn thats one way to keep those discs in mint condition

[Shicky256]

1:43

Bee Gees FTW

[static1994]

I didnt even know hat existed... so much for "buy american"

[AnimoRealista1990]

Now, I know how a teledisc work, thank you for demonstrating how it works.

[Frink14]

To bad they didn't make those automatic disc extractions now, it would really save on scratching my discs. To bad they make stuff like crap (general items) now these days where you have to keep buying something because it's easy to scratch or break.

[cinemakid]

VERY cool! @TGHelectronics, thank you for sharing this! It's always cool learn about long forgotten technology and see it still enjoyed.

[pimpingmrli]

You know this machine does have a sort of "visual pause"...it's called page mode. Try holding both of the visual search buttons down at the same time. It won 't hurt the player or the disc...it's intended to do that.

Try it and let me know if it works...I have 2 players of my own...this one and the original.

[skrinkle2000]

where can I get the discs? my sister just threw all of mine out and i had some really valuable ones like Star Wars and the Tolkein animated movies . I am beyond screaming and crying.

[666Makkura666]

Never ever seen something like this. Looks very cool with that cartridge-ish disk system :p

[svr73]

I dont think we ever got CED in Australia but my friend in America just found a player and movies at an antique store in idaho. 100 bucks for the lot.

cant wait

[FRANKIESHANOWSKIY2K0]

this is pre-school laserdisc i'd bet you jus like the laserdisc

you'll have to flip over to side b to finish the movie but with

technological advences in home video entertainment with

the invension of dvd and blu-ray and also the umd where

you can truncate an whole movie onto one simple disc

with crisp and sharp picture quality and superior cinema

sound .

[Rcrby525]

@FRANKIESHANOWSKIY2K0 uhh, the entire movie was on one disc.

[AndrewKH85]

hahaha thats awesome!

[Jediiii]

it's to bad the ced did not last long if it did I bet rca would have made a player that could play both sides of a ced disc.

[loveshair]

I remember some of those old systems, and the quality was pretty good.

[girl123boy456]

Hi, are these things still for sale? My Aunt has about fifty disc, but her original player was loaned out and subsequently broken. Thanx

[FRANKIESHANOWSKIY2K0]

@girl123boy456

yes they are only available on online auction sites

so get them quick because they are rare ' hot and very very fast

so don't dissapoint.

[thewildone]

Just imagine how things would've changed if these had been around in 1970 when they were first invented, instead of not hitting the market until 1981.

[slitheen]

Thanks for this very informative video. I wasn't even aware of their existence...yet I'm 39 so I was around then. Did they release it in the UK? I'm amazed that video came off vinyl like that. It even had static 'pops and clicks' like a music LP...LOL.

I wish I could bring someone from the past and show them Blu-Ray...and the cheap prices of home video these days (for anyone still thinking Blu-Ray is pricey, know that Star Wars released on VHS at $80 per tape!!!)....they would be amazed.

[DominikDrinkhahn]

@slitheen

In GB and Germany a syndicate of AEG-Telefunken, Teldec and Decca released a player in 1973, but it performed eve worse than the CED Player. The name of this invention was TED (Television Disc). The earlier BW Version was released in 1970. the capacity was very poor, only ten minutes.

[NESHero]

would fast forwarding and rewinding wear the disk out? if its like a turn table i would assume it wouldn't bt good for the needle?

maybe im wrong.

[carllovesjesus]

i have 50 movies.i have been looking for one for a long time now

[batterymaker]

...and, regretfully, it was this system that killed RCA in the end.

[AugustoAAL]

Is the Image Sharper than VHS or Beta?

[Dant2142]

@AugustoAAL Marginally better than VHS, worse than Beta, and the sound is worse than the Hi-Fi versions of both, also S-VHS is better than CED.

[aknutson11]

WHOA dude you got a STEAL! Who the hell would give that shit to Goodwill, and then who the hell would sell it for just 25 bucks??!! I'll buy it from ya for fifty :P

[16mmDJ]

I saw one of these at goodwill last weekend. I didn't have the $5 though :(

[cowtippingrocks]

wow thats awesome. I remember when i was 6 years old watching a movie with one of those at my friends house. I had never seen one since.. I read somewhere the technology didnt last for very long.

[AtariAndre42]

Just like the 8-track. Also a US developed system that sucked in quality.

The 8-track was beat by the Compact Cassette (developed by Philips) and CED was beat by the Laserdisc, also developed by Philips. Dutch quality ! :D

Still nice to see this working !

[themadhacker2]

@AtariAndre42

the 8 track sold by the millions though and did very good in the 60s and 70s.

[mandolinroad]

Those 1980's idents with spacey patterns and synth music are pure fuckin' magic. i get hard watching this.

[TheAkashdeepJabandar]

Absolutely fascinating video - I've never heard of this technology. Thanks!

I wish they still made things with wood paneling.

[jcb1972]

"the needle lowers on to the disc" ???

[captainnintendo]

1:14

That sound ALOT like something from Zelda :O

[suspekt29]

LOL. Awesome comment

[efrain1760]

what is the value of these disc?

[jason24568]

You have a Saturday Night Fever on your CED Player?

[tom11zz884]

@jason24568 Satuurday Night Fever rocks on that old CED player...lol

Remember, that is the original format for that movie

[jordanthewizard]

I'll stick with blu ray.

[Guacatechs]

great video, and awesome disc to use as a demo. and we have the same tv.

[jason24568]

Oldest movie ever! and also a RCA SelectaVision VideoDisc Presentation startup!!!!!!!!!!

[DejectedPanda]

@jason24568 You're off by about 100 years.

[jason24568]

This is the first video disc ever.

[Watcher3223]

Not exactly.

CED came out three years after LaserDisc.

And there was the Telefunken TED, or Television Electronic Disc, which came out before LaserDisc, but wasn't successful primarily because each side could only store 5-7 1/2 minutes, depending on disc size.

The first title that was ever produced for the CED format was "Race for your Life, Charlie Brown."

[davesantiagallery]

@jason24568 I don't think so, skippy. Like Watcher said, the first CED was Charlie Brown. As far as oldest movie on CED, well, CASABLANCA was also on CED, and that's alot older than SATURDAY NIGHT FEVER.

[xeogear]

My father use to have this and I didn't know how it worked because I was only a kid. Now I know how it works and it's pretty good.

[JerryTerrifying]

Does anyone know where I can buy a player? I looked on ebay, craigslist and amazon to no avail. Is there a website that specializes in this sort of thing?

I was at a junk store looking through Laserdiscs which I collect and next to the LDs there was a pretty big stack of CED videos. I did some googling/wikipediaing and learned about them. But I can't find any players for sale online.

[davesantiagallery]

@JerryTerrifying I saw a bunch of them on EBAY. Most have discs with them. They averaged for about $100.00. Just do a search for "selectavision".

[Pino4649]

I saw the CED for the movie "Utilities" at a Paralyzed Veterans store... I had no idea what it was. I didn't know if was some sort of giant floppy disk or what. Now I know. =D

[databits]

Great job! I used to own a similar Zenith model.

[Helderhugo]

Unbelievible technology!

[CeruleanFilms]

And to think we have Blu-Ray now... Insane.

Also, why is it that seemingly EVERY appliance made in the '70s and early '80s has fake wood paneling on it?

[scarmulletpart2]

It was the WOOD AGE.

[Watcher3223]

If we can answer that, then we can also explain the existence of same on cars and station wagons.

I guess they were aiming for a woody look.

[falcor1978]

FLASHBACK!!! LOL! I think that's the same player we had when I was a kid. Man, I watched our copy of "Star Wars" so much that I wore it out (literally!), to the point it wouldn't even play properly anymore, freezing and skipping around, etc. Haha!! Good times. :)

[JoshuaTaylor]

Wow... We had one of these when I was a kid. I remember them skipping a lot.

I also remember finding my Dad's Playboy discs under the couch...lol Good memories... :-)

[megamanfan3]

I sure love someone to upload that RCA Selectavision intro on to YouTube.

[Watcher3223]

There are quite of few of them on YouTube, including mine.

[liteboy2004]

look like dvd?

[Lachlant1984]

Does anybody know if this system was marketed outside of the US in particular, was it marketed in any countries that use PAL? How can you tell when the stylus needs replacing? How fast does the disc rotate? How is data read and stored on the disc? What I mean by that is, are the discs some sort of magnetic or optical storage system?

[Watcher3223]

Read some of my older posts below.

As for how you can tell the stylus needs replacing, the player will have increased occurrences of skipping and the picture might be noisier.

CED was marketed in the United Kingdom, but did not last very long; it was pulled from the market after only a few months.

[Watcher3223]

CED was marketed in the U.K., but was pulled out in about 6 months.

The stylus may have lived out its useful life if skipping occurs too frequently and there are constant picture quality and playback problems.

Disc rotation is directly tied to your TV scan rate. PAL is 25 frames per second, so 25 frames X 60 seconds = 1500 frames per minute. 2 fields equal one frame and one complete revolution of a CED disc is 8 fields. 8 fields = 4 frames so 1250/4 = 375. 375 RPM is the speed for PAL CED.

[Watcher3223]

TYPO.

The division should read 1500/4 for 375, not 1250/4.

Sorry for the confusion.

[davesantiagallery]

@Lachlant1984 Look up "Capacitance Electronic Disc" on wikipedia. You'll find most of your answers there.

[mikeb1444]

I'll bet the math required to get a Record style setup(stylus) to work is a little bit daunting.

[looneyfarm]

thanks for making this video, i've always wondered how the CED system works

[audiosynergy]

Awsome! That make my LaserDisc look like Blu-ray

[JohnnyHoTep]

I just got the original 'Friday the 13th' and "An American Werewolf in London' in this format. I didn't know what it was until I got home and looked it up. Surprisingly, the packaging on F-13th was pretty gory.

[Trance88]

Man! That is a sweet video format!! I never thought that it was possible to put video on a record.

[inkshadows]

I am looking for one of those....if anyone has one that works please contact me...I also have several unopened videodisc like Lucio Fulci's ZOMBIE and other classics...check ebay as I am going to list these rarities. (shadowsofpan is my name)

Thanks

[mercjoe72]

Ok, thats way too much cool, now I want to get one of those players.

I read a little about CED but I still dont get it. Is there actually a pickup touching and reading data from a groove on the disc just like with a regular record ?

What material are the discs made of ?

They look pretty much like a laserdisc.

[Watcher3223]

The disc is made of carbon loaded polyvinyl chloride with a thin coating of silicon lubricant.

There's a stylus that makes contact with the disc. The disc is conductive and can carry an electrical charge, which is why it's capacitive as the disc is essentially an electrical capacitor.

The grooves contains peaks and valleys that vary in frequency and amplitude, which represents an FM signal containing the video, audio, and DAXI (digital auxiliary) code for player control and disc info.

[mercjoe72]

Thanks a lot for that clear explanation.

Id really like to get one of this players but I doubt I could find one here. Actually I didnt knew this existed till I found this videos. Thanks again

[Watcher3223]

You're welcome.

And you can find players from various sources, including eBay.

I would recommend RCA players for the simple fact that there's more of them out there, so there's a greater chance of getting replacement parts, particularly any customized IC chips and stylus cartridges.

One place to check out: cedmagic (d0t](c0m]

[Watcher3223]

I see you may be in Argentina.

Well, in that case it is still possible to get a player and discs. But the cost of shipping will be very expensive and, if your nation does not (or, if your nation has transitioned to digital broadcasting, never did) use NTSC for your TV broadcasts, you may not be able to watch it unless your TV is multi-standard.

[Watcher3223]

As the stylus rides over the peaks and valleys in the grooves, it varies the frequency and amplitude of the electrical discharge from the disc to the stylus. This variation is what makes up the signal.

The system is electromechanical, unlike a phonographic record which is acoustic in nature.

[xmvirus202]

Hello- thanks for posting this, the video looks great on your LCD! I have 6 different CED player models, and my favorite one of them all is the SGT-200.

[Watcher3223]

Actually, DVD was a collaboration between multiple companies in multiple countries.

DVD's primary four inventors were Sony (Japanese), Toshiba (Japanese), Philips (Dutch), and Time Warner (American).

[leeroy956]

thanks for uploading this i never knew something like this existed as a child i remember seeing the laser disk stuff around but i didnt know there was an actual record type video player hope u can upload closer to the tv to see the quality better

[nippletease]

wow lol

[vcrcollector]

Great machine, I'd also would like to have one. As far as it could be seen from the filmed TV, the quality seems to be better than the competeting format Telefunken TED.

This "Push cartridge in with disk/tray and pull it out without" loading is also done this way in McDonnell Douglas Laserfilm Player LFS-4400