So if/when the current economic system fails and say Zeitgeist have 100 million supporters worldwide and TVP have 100,000 supporters what will happen? Jacque & Roxanne/TVP are the one's with the blueprints and the know how. Would Peter with his movement (100million strong) step aside and say "here you go Jacque go to work"?? Peter Joseph is a mega part to revealing the corrupting truths AND generating awarness but he isnt part of the solution. pls reply
@chloe290983 The short/sweet answer is yes, but of course it's more complicated then that.
I see it as a two sides of the same coin. TVP has broken things down using naturalistic causality to come upon a viable solution based on the earth and its resources. The other side of the coin in TZM, focusing on education/awareness which is essential in order to lead up to something like TVP.
Without understandings, we'll keep making biased decisions instead of arriving at a reasoned conclusions.
"If who've joined or wish to join the movement, ZM is currently running a side project--we wish to gather about 25k members to participate in D-Wave's AQUA research project, through BOINC and for science!
BOINC is a volunteer grid computing system that uses your computer to solve problems. Simply put, you can help researchers with your idle CPU
for those who wish to learn more, Google "The Zeitgeist Movement title=BOINC"
Anyone who is looking for the TRUTH by making these video`s and etc ,THEY UNFORTUNATELY forgotten to see the key point and key element that who these Illuminati hates and trying to make ppl to hate them ? and why ?Whenever you my friends did find answer to that and realized then you will be able to know the REAL TRUTH AND HOW TO DEFEAT THEM. BTW, Dont judge Islam by Muslims coz if Muslims did Follow Islam they would have been like those Muslims who shaped our world for better .
Look at our History when Muslims were in power they did nothing but developing and inventing which we are benefiting from it today.To say Islam is one of the mind controlling cult then YOU my brothers and sisters are still under mind control and brainwashing of those who using you and me ,who is ruling you and me.Think about it why they hate Islam and trying to make Muslims and Islam the enemy of the whole world?
Well, whatever said in this video without of doubt is truth,but I disagree with the claim that Islam is one of the faith which goes by idea`s and controls ppl .In reality Islam condom`s idea`s and controlling ppl against their will.And this is why the Leaders of the world who trying to shove their idea into the throat of the whole world tried their best to suppress Islam and Muslims coz Islam is NOTHING but freedom.
i find this movement somewhat innovative, because religion is a pact between you and your deity and should end at that. it shouldnt be political anymore, it just brings more problems.
Capitalism used to benefit but now it has been manifested and perverted because of our selfish ways through corruption. Selfishness is probably our biggest downfall as a society.
@JLANDIS1043 Capitalism has always been bad, but the discovery and use of over a billion liters of oil has done the work of 10 humans for every 1 human on the panet as far as energy use, which has made us wealthy. If it weren't for the waste inherent in capitalism we would actually be much richer by now. Capitalism just came at the right time (for it not us) and got the credit for making us wealthy (the 20% or so on earth who are at least) which really belongs to oil.
The fact IS Once you have people miss lead and miss educated and have fluoride in water and over 3000 chemicals in food, put there by the people at the top, in order to stay there! And you have to work 12 hrs a day to stay alive! Then take care of your children You end up miss lead with unhealthy body and mind with no or little intuition! As well as having destroyed most wildlife to be observed to realize how life actually works! This environment has been created intentionally!
Imagine the frustration that AJ has trying to tell the truth to people who cannot believe anything. When we are children we are bombarded with Cartoons that show a world that is all lies. We are trained to not believe anything. Animals with faces that talk. This is not reality and what does it do to a Childs mind?
Then they become Parents, who insist, this is normal?
I don't believe a techno-anarchist reality is possible just yet. Give it another 40 years when we'll have computers that can compute with the intelligence of the human brain at the speed of light. Not to say, "don't keep up the movement." It's important to keep these memes floating around so that we can continue to democratize our technology in favor of EVERYONE, and so that we can work out all the kinks of this symbiotic relationship we're developing for each other and the planet. Keep it up.
everybody who says that this idea is communism they should think again...you not take evry people by ther word ...this are people who cant think about something else only black and white...any idea that has some similaritys to other ideas are not necessarily the same idea...is a cat a dog just because the cat has 4 legs like a dog ???...you should more think...and see the differents...the venus projevt idea uses NO MONEY ...this is a BIG different between communism and ther are more...
Yes, Capitalism is no good. There is no alternative in this video because it is the first of six in a series. The idea is to inform others of what our current situation IS, THEN let them in on another solution.
One can't understand the solution if they don't understand the problem.
No, this has nothing to do with Communism or Socialism or anything else people of the current day could compare it to.
"System of governance" This is the OPPOSITE of what we're proposing.
@TheFifthGreatApe I agree a machine based society is NOT COMMUNIST OR SOCIALIST as LABOUR
and the need to work, is not in this system. They ARE BASED on DAS KAPITAL.The only diference is the degrees of suffering in all these monetary systems.I have great hope the people of the world will see THAT MACHINES can set us all free, from the need to labour for Capitalists or Communists.NEGATIVE people do not seem to well read or have studied this subject. We only need the 100th monkey in this.
It's true. Communism has no relevance to the Venus Project because Communism and the like are still based on labor and monetary gain. Bottom line, no matter what faults the system may have, two things will exist in the current system:
1. Endless waste will be produced for the sake of maintaining financial profit.
And 2. When human well-being is a high second priority to monetary gain, no one can expect decency in other people.
@michaelencarnacion capitalism by its construct will always degrade into oligarchy, while historically communism has done this as well it should be noted that in contrast to capitalism corruption is not an inevitability in a communist system.
@michaelencarnacion there should be no system of governance. anarchy is the answer, We are no different to animals. When the oil stops flowing we will have no choice but to embrace our savage hunter instincts.
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your philosophy is ridiculous is unrealistic, you want everything and everyone in the World to be sunshine and rainbows, you are trying to exploit a fantasy. And all the people that are wrapped up in this are either fools to think this makes any sense or they are just jumping in because its the next religious fad.
@NFormD when you complete your "utopian" rebuttle, which is "pathetic" at best, go back to your glum life, sit on your ass, and be happy with the corruption you support.
This movement is based on realistic goals and expectation as well as common sense, you're just too wrapped up in your comfort zone to see that.
@NFormD This social movement is based on the scientific method...proveable evidence of it's validity, as well as education and highly intelligent and efficient management of resources. Religious fad? a nonsensical propoganda rebuttle. Go do your homework. Join the movement. It is the basic foundation of moving to the world we ALL deserve.
"your philosophy is ridiculous is unrealistic," uh you religious nuts never get the irony, eh?
As you might have not noticed the Zeitgeist movement is about logic, reason, utilizing real world data. You Alex Jones loneys tend to twist facts around as usual.
I personally also thought a RBE was utopian pipe dream when I first heard about it. But after reading, learning more, playing around with ideas Ive come to the conclusion that theres more good to it and although I dont agree on all details I think the challenge its worth exploring. I wasnt the fist to dismiss it prematurely as utopian and wont be the last, imo its almost normal to dismiss it at first because we are soaking in our present system its hard to evaluate very different alternatives
@blaziermissy i don't know if this was directed to someone's comment, or the video, but if it was towards the video - try googling the video "zeitgeist orientation" for an in depth education. also even "where are we now?" and "where are we going?" by Peter Joseph. cheers
I appreciate the accessability of this movement, and analysis, but I'm curious to hear how this project intends to achieve these radical social changes.
Great video, I just don't like the audio... it doesn't sound "filling"... the audio fades out completely, then back in.. also, could you speak up as well?
Do you find the evidence suggests TZM has the time to raise global awareness to the degree required to transition towards the egalitarian society model proposed by The Venus Project before a global economic dislocation occurs?
Deffenilty its the root causes we have to look at and "why" is the question we should start ask more often rather than just pointing fingers to certain groups. Its time to acknowledge that there is indeed spoiled food behind the frige (a tendency) and start working to remove it. I really enjoy your videos keep them coming.
@ Anyone from The Zeitgeist Movement.
So if/when the current economic system fails and say Zeitgeist have 100 million supporters worldwide and TVP have 100,000 supporters what will happen? Jacque & Roxanne/TVP are the one's with the blueprints and the know how. Would Peter with his movement (100million strong) step aside and say "here you go Jacque go to work"?? Peter Joseph is a mega part to revealing the corrupting truths AND generating awarness but he isnt part of the solution. pls reply
chloe290983 3 months ago in playlist Understandings: The Zeitgeist Movement
@chloe290983 The short/sweet answer is yes, but of course it's more complicated then that.
I see it as a two sides of the same coin. TVP has broken things down using naturalistic causality to come upon a viable solution based on the earth and its resources. The other side of the coin in TZM, focusing on education/awareness which is essential in order to lead up to something like TVP.
Without understandings, we'll keep making biased decisions instead of arriving at a reasoned conclusions.
TheFifthGreatApe 3 months ago
zeitgeist movement is the truth the venus project is the solution!
MsMoniqueEvans 5 months ago
this might sound dum but is that obama or bush?!
MsMoniqueEvans 5 months ago
@MsMoniqueEvans
Its Obamabush! lol
TheFifthGreatApe 3 months ago
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"If who've joined or wish to join the movement, ZM is currently running a side project--we wish to gather about 25k members to participate in D-Wave's AQUA research project, through BOINC and for science!
BOINC is a volunteer grid computing system that uses your computer to solve problems. Simply put, you can help researchers with your idle CPU
for those who wish to learn more, Google "The Zeitgeist Movement title=BOINC"
Buybuffalo2 1 year ago
Makes perfect sense from a scientific standpoint.
silversobe 1 year ago
you are so right. thanks for making this video. :-)
VenusAsABoyFilms 1 year ago
The Zeitgeist Movement its a TRANSHUMANISM Movement
Truth35Seeker 1 year ago
@Truth35Seeker It would be more accurate to say it's a sustainability movement, but in a very deep sense.
stochastic24 5 months ago
Anyone who is looking for the TRUTH by making these video`s and etc ,THEY UNFORTUNATELY forgotten to see the key point and key element that who these Illuminati hates and trying to make ppl to hate them ? and why ?Whenever you my friends did find answer to that and realized then you will be able to know the REAL TRUTH AND HOW TO DEFEAT THEM. BTW, Dont judge Islam by Muslims coz if Muslims did Follow Islam they would have been like those Muslims who shaped our world for better .
ramosay 1 year ago
Look at our History when Muslims were in power they did nothing but developing and inventing which we are benefiting from it today.To say Islam is one of the mind controlling cult then YOU my brothers and sisters are still under mind control and brainwashing of those who using you and me ,who is ruling you and me.Think about it why they hate Islam and trying to make Muslims and Islam the enemy of the whole world?
ramosay 1 year ago
Well, whatever said in this video without of doubt is truth,but I disagree with the claim that Islam is one of the faith which goes by idea`s and controls ppl .In reality Islam condom`s idea`s and controlling ppl against their will.And this is why the Leaders of the world who trying to shove their idea into the throat of the whole world tried their best to suppress Islam and Muslims coz Islam is NOTHING but freedom.
ramosay 1 year ago
i find this movement somewhat innovative, because religion is a pact between you and your deity and should end at that. it shouldnt be political anymore, it just brings more problems.
firefrostpeacemaker 1 year ago
So where can we watch the whole thing?
windextor05 1 year ago
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"Free market" is ROOT of problems
1. how do you stop negative consequences of the profit motive?
2. how do you ensures that everyone has the minimum necessities?
ANSWER
1. FREELY Share ALL resources & knowledge worldwide, NO more money/property
2. Use LATEST technology to create an ABUNDANCE of all our needs, NO more waste/theft
3. Automate/localize ALL production and distribution, NO more central control/wage slavery
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dontblockmedk 1 year ago
Capitalism used to benefit but now it has been manifested and perverted because of our selfish ways through corruption. Selfishness is probably our biggest downfall as a society.
JLANDIS1043 1 year ago
@JLANDIS1043 Capitalism has always been bad, but the discovery and use of over a billion liters of oil has done the work of 10 humans for every 1 human on the panet as far as energy use, which has made us wealthy. If it weren't for the waste inherent in capitalism we would actually be much richer by now. Capitalism just came at the right time (for it not us) and got the credit for making us wealthy (the 20% or so on earth who are at least) which really belongs to oil.
stochastic24 5 months ago
The fact IS Once you have people miss lead and miss educated and have fluoride in water and over 3000 chemicals in food, put there by the people at the top, in order to stay there! And you have to work 12 hrs a day to stay alive! Then take care of your children You end up miss lead with unhealthy body and mind with no or little intuition! As well as having destroyed most wildlife to be observed to realize how life actually works! This environment has been created intentionally!
passwordsk7040 1 year ago
in reality, we are nearly clean slates when we are born and it is our environment that shapes who we are and how we behave,,,
But there's no such thing human nature its Human behave,, now i understand
parisfaith 1 year ago
Hi all
Would like to Spread Awareness about the Venus Project?
Don't you know how to do it?
Visit: (delete all the 3 spaces along the address to get it right):
miniurl. org / HZc
:)
FS
FactualSolutions 1 year ago
The was simply beautiful....
ogzzlle 1 year ago
Excellent work my friend.
gorfjorf2112 1 year ago
Imagine the frustration that AJ has trying to tell the truth to people who cannot believe anything. When we are children we are bombarded with Cartoons that show a world that is all lies. We are trained to not believe anything. Animals with faces that talk. This is not reality and what does it do to a Childs mind?
Then they become Parents, who insist, this is normal?
StigmataBOB1 1 year ago
I don't believe a techno-anarchist reality is possible just yet. Give it another 40 years when we'll have computers that can compute with the intelligence of the human brain at the speed of light. Not to say, "don't keep up the movement." It's important to keep these memes floating around so that we can continue to democratize our technology in favor of EVERYONE, and so that we can work out all the kinks of this symbiotic relationship we're developing for each other and the planet. Keep it up.
seanotube85 1 year ago
agree dude
SoCalm013 1 year ago
might be good content but I cant help but hate the narrators voice as he sounds like he is in a prison
Fibonacci184 1 year ago
sounds like a grown ass man trying to get a little girl to get in his van
SoCalm013 1 year ago
Brilliant video. thanks
TZMRussia 2 years ago 3
everybody who says that this idea is communism they should think again...you not take evry people by ther word ...this are people who cant think about something else only black and white...any idea that has some similaritys to other ideas are not necessarily the same idea...is a cat a dog just because the cat has 4 legs like a dog ???...you should more think...and see the differents...the venus projevt idea uses NO MONEY ...this is a BIG different between communism and ther are more...
thelion2430 2 years ago
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This idea appears to be against capitalism, but it doesn't offer a viable alternative.
Communism is even more corrupt than capitalism, so how should the new system of governance operate?
michaelencarnacion 2 years ago
@michael
Yes, Capitalism is no good. There is no alternative in this video because it is the first of six in a series. The idea is to inform others of what our current situation IS, THEN let them in on another solution.
One can't understand the solution if they don't understand the problem.
No, this has nothing to do with Communism or Socialism or anything else people of the current day could compare it to.
"System of governance" This is the OPPOSITE of what we're proposing.
Keep researching.
TheFifthGreatApe 2 years ago 46
@TheFifthGreatApe I agree a machine based society is NOT COMMUNIST OR SOCIALIST as LABOUR
and the need to work, is not in this system. They ARE BASED on DAS KAPITAL.The only diference is the degrees of suffering in all these monetary systems.I have great hope the people of the world will see THAT MACHINES can set us all free, from the need to labour for Capitalists or Communists.NEGATIVE people do not seem to well read or have studied this subject. We only need the 100th monkey in this.
nbm34 1 year ago 2
Watch Zeitgeist Addendum/ Future by design :).
PissOnTheSystem 2 years ago
It's true. Communism has no relevance to the Venus Project because Communism and the like are still based on labor and monetary gain. Bottom line, no matter what faults the system may have, two things will exist in the current system:
1. Endless waste will be produced for the sake of maintaining financial profit.
And 2. When human well-being is a high second priority to monetary gain, no one can expect decency in other people.
polkaspotsss 2 years ago
@michaelencarnacion If you really want to know the answers to these questions, go to the website and read FAQ's 1 through 104. (All of them.)
TVPchallenge 2 years ago
@michaelencarnacion try googling the video lecture, "where are we going?" by speaker Peter Joseph
wizzallace 1 year ago
@michaelencarnacion capitalism by its construct will always degrade into oligarchy, while historically communism has done this as well it should be noted that in contrast to capitalism corruption is not an inevitability in a communist system.
lwanatt 1 year ago
@lwanatt
Any monetary based system has the means of being corrupt.
evilnomad111 1 year ago
@michaelencarnacion there should be no system of governance. anarchy is the answer, We are no different to animals. When the oil stops flowing we will have no choice but to embrace our savage hunter instincts.
TheCivilDisobedient 1 year ago
@michaelencarnacion
the zeitgeistmovement is just the active Part of the Venus-Project.
Look the movie zeitgeist addendum and you´ll see that there is no gouvernment needed anymore.
Else listen to the words of Jiddu Krishnamurti and get your mind free!
Gallileo82 1 year ago
@michaelencarnacion there will be no governors idiot. No rulers , no leaders . Do you need someone to control you? How weak are you?
vasgeorge 1 year ago
@michaelencarnacion watch Zeitgiest: Moving Forward.
xRA1D32x 5 months ago
The world is not dangerous because of those who do harm but because of those who look at it without doing anything. Albert Einstein.
The slogans of Newspeak are, War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, and Ignorance is Strength. George Orwell.
Google: IndieGoGo Can Bush Be Prosecuted? & Kymatica (2009)
It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.
Jiddu Krishnamurti.
Wiki Sheeple. FCUK Obamageddon. FCUK Obamastan.
MaSteRKuSH010 2 years ago
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WTF...wow New World Older Lap dog....one world religion..
NFormD 2 years ago
you don't know what you'r talking about. You're simply vomiting out propoganda. Move on if you can't educate yourself.
blaziermissy 2 years ago 6
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your philosophy is ridiculous is unrealistic, you want everything and everyone in the World to be sunshine and rainbows, you are trying to exploit a fantasy. And all the people that are wrapped up in this are either fools to think this makes any sense or they are just jumping in because its the next religious fad.
NFormD 2 years ago
@NFormD when you complete your "utopian" rebuttle, which is "pathetic" at best, go back to your glum life, sit on your ass, and be happy with the corruption you support.
This movement is based on realistic goals and expectation as well as common sense, you're just too wrapped up in your comfort zone to see that.
blaziermissy 2 years ago 5
@NFormD This social movement is based on the scientific method...proveable evidence of it's validity, as well as education and highly intelligent and efficient management of resources. Religious fad? a nonsensical propoganda rebuttle. Go do your homework. Join the movement. It is the basic foundation of moving to the world we ALL deserve.
blaziermissy 2 years ago 3
"your philosophy is ridiculous is unrealistic," uh you religious nuts never get the irony, eh?
As you might have not noticed the Zeitgeist movement is about logic, reason, utilizing real world data. You Alex Jones loneys tend to twist facts around as usual.
0PsycoDad0 2 years ago
Cavemen:
Controlling fire? Are you crazy, thats utopian, it never happened in thousands of years and its human nature to fear fire!
You think in the future people wont have to hunt to survive and see fishing as a leisure instead of toil? Thats utopian.
Pre-industrial:
What Flying? Thats impossible and ridiculous, what a utopian idea
1966 Star Trek:
Boy,communicators working without wire, what scifi, aint gonna happen. Doors that open by themselves, lol, thats utopian. No money?Unrealistic
Rickdeckard2020 2 years ago 2
I personally also thought a RBE was utopian pipe dream when I first heard about it. But after reading, learning more, playing around with ideas Ive come to the conclusion that theres more good to it and although I dont agree on all details I think the challenge its worth exploring. I wasnt the fist to dismiss it prematurely as utopian and wont be the last, imo its almost normal to dismiss it at first because we are soaking in our present system its hard to evaluate very different alternatives
Rickdeckard2020 2 years ago 37
@blaziermissy i don't know if this was directed to someone's comment, or the video, but if it was towards the video - try googling the video "zeitgeist orientation" for an in depth education. also even "where are we now?" and "where are we going?" by Peter Joseph. cheers
wizzallace 1 year ago
This is similar to my own Communist outlook.
I appreciate the accessability of this movement, and analysis, but I'm curious to hear how this project intends to achieve these radical social changes.
timberwulfzero 2 years ago
Great video, I just don't like the audio... it doesn't sound "filling"... the audio fades out completely, then back in.. also, could you speak up as well?
BeyondDGrave 2 years ago
Namaste
ReyesRobby 2 years ago
OUTSTANDING summary.
blaziermissy 2 years ago
+ 1 - very very good
revillsimon 2 years ago
Do you find the evidence suggests TZM has the time to raise global awareness to the degree required to transition towards the egalitarian society model proposed by The Venus Project before a global economic dislocation occurs?
VeracityMedia 2 years ago
Before a nation armed with a thermonuclear arsenal becomes a failed state is a more important question for me.
Pakistan could be this failed state!
Medivial moron hordes are too eager to push the button!
0PsycoDad0 2 years ago
@VeracityMedia - All dependent on what everyone does.
brentoneccles 2 years ago
Deffenilty its the root causes we have to look at and "why" is the question we should start ask more often rather than just pointing fingers to certain groups. Its time to acknowledge that there is indeed spoiled food behind the frige (a tendency) and start working to remove it. I really enjoy your videos keep them coming.
TruthWorld 2 years ago 4
Economic stratification will cease to be in the future. The status quo and its structural tendencies all point to this outcome.
The question is when and how.
HailRasec 2 years ago 4