Im not some religous giant nor some science fanatic, science can only study things with in its own ¨square¨, there are things which we will never be able to answer through the so called ¨logical reasoning¨. At the same time the purpose of ¨religion¨ isnt to explain to you newtons laws of universal gravity, that something man discovered, it was always there, he just realized it is there...
Isaiah 59:9…. We look for light (understanding), but all is darkness (mystery); for brightness (enlightenment), but we walk in deep shadows (that which are hidden or unknown).To solve these mysteries we should look within us, for the kingdom of God is knowledge and wisdom within every man, woman and child.
Part 3: Of course this is still open for human debate, but in the end this is what God wants us to see. It was and is always about man and his way of thinking. There were wickedness on the earth (= man’s mind were distorted, fast forward 2011 war, terror, monopolies, control) and it had to be washed away by a flood (words of wisdom, or new ways) so that God can make a new promise which was and is Christ in the end.. deekay19722011@hotmail.com.
@InternetDarkLord He created Light on the first day and added the sun and moon on the third day. Problem created insist on a solution. Science did not put those words there so why expect an answer from them. Circular reasoning, umm…let me see, Proverbs 1:7 and 29 / 1 Corinthians 2:13 (KJV) 13Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
@InternetDarkLord The Bible is a mere source towards seeking the truth. When He left He opened their minds to “understand, keyword” the scriptures” So the scriptures leaves much to conjecture. Thus is my reasoning, Spiritual truth and wisdom. Where is your reasoning from, the realm of science and conjecture? Circular reasoning is like Proverbs 4:19The way of the wicked (misinformed) is as darkness: they know not at what they stumble.
Part 2: Psalms 118:8 it is better to trust in God than to put confidence in man. Noah=man. If you will the animals=man with different types of behavior. The ark= promise of God. The FLOODED ‘earth’ = conscious ‘mind of man’ The flood waters (waters used plural) Gen 7:17 And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased…= also read Proverbs 18:4 (KJV) 4The words of a man's mouth are as deep waters, and the wellspring of wisdom as a flowing brook.
Part 1: That is just it, all these opinions and debate, amounts to a deluge, drowning ourselves in a flood of misunderstanding, war and tyranny. All the evidence in this documentary is mere suggestions and speculation. In the end the focus is shifted from a global flood to a regional flood. Yeah that sounds more believable. What happens if we do look at it the way Genesis 6 describes it?
@InternetDarkLord any evidence, they put this story together with absolutely no evidence, whats there evidence, a story of some guy with the name of noah, or our guy here says its impossible so it is because he says so, lol.
@ORIANA250 That does not prove "the flood did not happen as suggested." There is no evidence of the Bible Flood at all, it did not happen any particular way. This video merely suggests how the Bible myth started.
@InternetDarkLord Your entitled to believe what ever you want, but there is alot more evidence that a flood did take place than you probly know about and that this program will fully fails to mention or answer.
More than 250 Flood legends from all parts of the world have been found. Most have similarities to the Genesis story.
@ORIANA250 Nonsense, there are many widespread myths: mermaids, UFOs, sun gods, moon goddesses, saviors, underworlds, ghosts, witches etc. My favorite are living ape-men, like Yeti or Bigfoot, which are backed up by thousands of living eyewitnesses, photos, videos, footprints, etc. The evidence ape-men are alive would trump the flood myths any day in court, are they still alive?
@InternetDarkLord Good job putting the flood in with a bunch of crap that there is very poor evidence for. Fact! Petrified clams in the closed position (found all over the world) even at the top 3,000 feet of Mt. Everest (from 26,000-29,000 feet) is made up of sedimentary rock packed with seashells and other ocean-dwelling animals.
Sedimentary rock is found all over the world and is formed in water.
Bent rock layers, fossil graveyards, and poly-strata fossils are best explained by a Flood.
@ORIANA250 Sedimentary rock formed over millions of years, then tectonic plate motion pushed up mountains like Everest. Bent rock layers also form over eons, soft layers would run into one big mess. Polystrate fossils have been explained, watch potholer54debunk's video on the subject. And the total number of animals like crinoids in those layers are greater than the surface area of the earth, they could not be deposited at once!
@InternetDarkLord ok how do you explain whale fossils standing on end going through many hundreds of layers that take millions of years to form. the beings were buried quickly and fossilized. How long does it take to form 1 inch of diatoms and when you find that answer, how do you explain diatomaceous earth quarry's up to 1500 feet thick of solid diatoms.
@ORIANA250 Not all layers take millions of years to form, rythmites or varves form periodically. Also, fossils through multiple layers do not need a global flood instead of many different smaller bodies of water, and don't require a flood per se at all.
Diatoms, on the other hand, were deposited over millions of years, calcite formation releases 11,290 joules of energy per gram, and 5,60,.000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 joules would boil away the flood.
@InternetDarkLord ok so if it takes millions of years to create diatom formation 1500 feet thick how did a whale standing on end fossilize. and explain how diatoms release heat energy please.
@ORIANA250 The whale did not have fossilize on end, because of tectonic plate motion, layers tilt. Just look at a geology book. And why would this fossil entail ONE GLOBAL flood? or a FLOOD in the first place?
Chemical bonds store energy, when they change they absorb or release energy. Large concrete structures like dams generate heat for this reason. And I vastly underestimated heat, because the geologic layers are interlaced with volcanic rock and meteor craters. Where did the heat go?
@InternetDarkLord well according to what you believe it takes 1000 years to build up one inch of dead diatoms and the whale was fossilized through hundreds of layers of diatoms how could this be unless it was buried in them quickly. the heat your talking about being built up from dead diatoms is nothing compared to the amount of water it was submerged in, its like putting a red hot plate into a pale of water, the water dissipates the heat very rapidly.
Wrong, 5600000000000000000000000000 joules would be an underestimate because it does not include igneous rock or impact craters. The ocean, and atmosphere would vaporize.
Also, water has a high specific heat due to the polar structure of water molecules. This creates our planet's climate.
@InternetDarkLord I think now you are just straight up making stuff up but at least your using the word estimate, your talking about heat hotter than the surface of the sun and if diatoms got that hot I don't think there would be any thing left of them, they would incinerate into nothing, never mind any layers of them to be found and mined.
@ORIANA250 I am not making anything up, the heat generated by hardening calcite can be felt at many large concrete structures. Everything I say is a widely known science fact!
That is my point: Those diatoms died over a vast amount of time. Nothing like Noah's Farce ever deposited the earth's sedimentary layers.
@InternetDarkLord I am not disagreeing with you about heat being generated, I am disagreeing that 560 cajilion degrees can be made some how. if the diatoms did die over a vast amount of time how come there are not dirt layers in between and how come they find large fossils going through many layers of it. also I have seen many pictures of petrified trees going through many layers of sedimentary rock. here is a good question, how come we find fossils at all, scavengers allways clean them up.
@ORIANA250 Sometimes there are impurities in rock layers.
Avalanches and other mishaps can kill and bury animals instantly. Two dinosaurs were once found locked in combat in rock formed by desert sand dunes in Mongolia.
Rock layers are often divided by seasons or tides into sublayers that trees can grow through.
Are aware some sedimentary rock is not formed by water? Some sandstone is formed by desert, desert varnish by exposure to air, tillite by glaciers, etc.
@InternetDarkLord never heard of a tree growing through a hundred plus feet of layers to find sun light. I have no doubt that you will find the occasional fossil of some thing that died naturally, but to have thousands and thousands of fossils found in a short period of time and in a close proximity, suggests catastrophic event, fossils are found like this all over the planet. sedimentary rock is formed by water, after it dries up and is compressed it turns to rock, explain unconformities.
@ORIANA250 The layers formed as the tree grew, potholer54 debunks has a video explaining this.
Fossil beds don't need ONE GLOBAL flood. There are too many fossils in stone layers like the Karroo Formation, they could not possibly all be alive at once. Some fossils like crinoids are so numerous they would have covered more area than the earth's surface. There coral and bryozoan reefs far too thick for just one flood. There is no possible way so many animals all died in one year. Want more?
@InternetDarkLord I would like to hear the explanation of how so many layers form while the tree is growing, and how come that does not happen today. you are also over exaggerating how many crinoids there are, you are also assuming that our planet today is the same as it was back then, there were a great deal more animals and plant life before the flood.
@InternetDarkLord I like your debunker, lol, he says what I have been saying, things get buried quickly and stalagmite forms quickly, rather than supporting the belief it takes millions of years. "Crinoid formations in places are over 2000 feet thick. The Mission Canyon Formation has 10,000 cubic miles of it." that suggests things died quickly, unless they all migrated to a mass grave to die in the same place. how do they know the great barrier reef is that old.
@ORIANA250 No, he said the layers deposited quickly, that is not complete stone formation. Trees cannot grow through solid rock, so it proves it hardened later.
The crinoid layers are so massive, they would cover all the earth with crinoids to spare. Then there's more fossils like the Karroo Formation.
Reefs can be dated by the rate of growth, radiometric dating, etc. But your "4400" years would debunk the Bible anyway: massive reefs are between sedimentary layers. That's still impossible!
why do christians think atheists hate god? We don't believe in god, you might as awell say we hate santa claus or the tooth fairy. They're just stories, you don't hate stories. You can only hate something you believe in.
it is funny, how after all these facts, they still depict the first man as a white man!!! not being racist, but are we looking at the same program? what changed sooooooo much after the garden of eden? o, ok. let's overlook that, right!!! did yall see how they said that then moved on to something right else? let's be serious!!!
@SuperPhive This program is about Sumerians, the garden of Eden never existed. But early man was black, like the Mitochondrial Eve, white skin evolved much later.
lol what you get when you have the media make videos of Noah... This is all theories and fictional play... I doubt it happened globally it probably flood locally only one Continent not the whole earth! In the bible it says the lord promises no more floods on earth, there has been many floods on earth... also it says he would make it rain 40 days and nights in genesis 7:4 so what do you believe? lol...
to me the video seems very stupid not well planned in the scripts, has NOTHING to do with anyone's belief system but a a book called the BIBLE ... Sorry but it is what it is, in the end NO one knows what brought us to earth or what made us and the earth!! But science do prove more facts then fiction as a religion does... And the lord did not want anyone to follow but lead yourself in your own fate... so why is there so many CULTS/Religions? to follow?
@JD198276 Could it mean you are all committing a sin by following a religion? lol...
Im spiritual, and believe in a god... but do not believe in any religion hope that dont make me an atheist, that I dont follow a cult but lead myself in my own fate!!
key concept: if you don't pay your debts, you are liable to end up a slave. Same as today then, with governments enslaving us to pay bankers Debts... Nothing new under the sun hey...
If some freak storm happened in an area that almost never gets rain. It would be seen as some divine act. Thing about the desert is it rarely rains but when it does it POURS.
How do they explain the boat in Turkey that is the exact measurements of the biblical ark? Some people thing the bible's version is a stretch.... This is stretching it a mile.
Why do you born again Christians feel so angry about atheists, people whose only 'failing' is that they just don't happen to believe in a story which by its very nature cannot be proved?
I dunno, perhaps atheists they just make you feel a bit self conscious about believing in myths.
Well the obvious question to ask at this point is when did I ever say I hated God? I don't believe in God that is true enough but that does not equate to hating him. I don't hate unicorns either.
Oh Boy this are so stupid or ignorant conclusions or deductions base only on the reasoning of humans....they make me laugh...hahaha for crying a loud yest read the actual prints.
@esartur 40 days is not enough to flood the entire planet, though seven days was enough to flood the surrounding area of the Noah of Mesopotamia in Iran, making him believe the entire earth was flooded.
"Forty" is in the Middle East often used to mean "a lot of" and doesn't necessarily mean 40 exactly, compare with the story of "Ali Baba and the forty robbers". So "forty days and forty nights" is more like "and indeterminate long period of time."
Hebrew didn't have a number system those like you write. Those are arabic numbers. I have posed a link to you wich describes this in more detail (as I can't put a link directly into this field)
The story in the Bible and the Quran are retold millenia after the Gilgamesh story, of which they are quite obviously based. No sane person think that the world was flooded the way it is described in the Bible. As you hint at , there simply isn't enough water, there is no worldwode indicator that this has happened, etc etc.
@gregrutz Well mister smart, It was documented 7,000 years ago by the summerians,, Arcologicaly it has been proven and the time line established,, Boy I wish I was as smart as you.
The Summerians described a localk flood. Quite simmilar to what we have in Australia right now. There are however no evidence at all for a worldwide flood. Local floods are actually quite common, just how many have we had in the last 10 years? So the fact that you have many different flood stories is not surpricing is it?
@gregrutz and it is this very gullibility that the Jews use to trick th western world. Nature works by natural selection. Humans work by natural, cultural and religious selection. We breed ignorance and bigotry.
By the way I prefer metric. Feet is very different depending on which country you are in, which is why it was standardised when we (well most of the world) when metric.
Just a little dig, don't read too much into this. :-)
Let`s go the other way around?. Can evolution flood the hole earth?. Can this process, change the hole universe too?. An atheist probably say ..yes! And in that process, everything is possible, correct is ?. Only under that believe or law all things make sense. Make sense to believe in aliens gods, according to S Hawking or Richard Dawkins!. They coming to flood the mind of atheist very soon. Amen
And for those who think my words are racist, please dont forget that the real racist called us dajjal (inti christ). Fucking racist sand nigger diaper head.
It (Satan) is that Angel who was proud enough to believe himself God; brave enough to buy his independence at the price of eternal suffering and torture; beautiful enough to have adored himself in full divine light; strong enough to still reign in darkness amidst agony, and to have made himself a throne out of this inextinguishable pyre.
look up Lake Agassiz and the 8.2 kiloyear event scientific proof of worldwide flooding, not necessarily the whole world covered in water, but severe localized flooding in areas all over the globe
this is not even close to the truth..stupid fools...deny the quran,deny the bible,deny the torah,deny the fact..open your ayes fools..i think u are the dajjal...
@antumalaya100 Calling people stupid doesnt make them stupid. The facts are simple, the dumbest people in the world are religeous fucks. See any quran reading countries building nukes...nope. Sand niggers can only fight wars with sticks and rocks. The quran and bible and torah were coppied from the work of the sumerians who believed in aliens. You are just as stupid as non believers fucktard. The smartest people in the world are atheists and yes, brains is everything.
You don't have to go to Australia breezebro, to know it's there It's the only place you'll find terrestrial kangaroos, emus platypus & echidnas. You can find kangaroos in other countries but they live in trees.
"Faith:2 Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence." Unfortunately I don't have that sort of faith I don't have to see it first hand but there has to be 'logical proof & material evidence. Keep up the good work.
The real truth of the bible is; It's believable only if you discard all the laws of logic, nature, physics & chemistry and can accept that stories more incredible than fairy tales are true. In believing in the bible you would definitely have to believe in Santa & the tooth fairy as well. If you ram this shit down a child's throat most WILL believe, very few will if allowed to gain adulthood without it because most will gain enough knowledge tempered with a modicum of logic.
Further "truths" in the bible; GE9:12-16 because god forgot to implement the laws of light refraction he brought them in by making the first rainbow after the flood. GE18:1,7-8 God & Abraham sat down & ate solid food together. GE32:24-30 God has a wrestling match with Jacob & is losing until he dislocates Jacob's hip. EX4:24 God thinks to kill Moses one of his prime prophets but changes his mind. LE11:20-21 There are winged creature, birds or insects, that go around on all fours. Crap all of it.
@breezebro Why not, that's what the writers of the bible did, they made it up. There is only a semblance of truth in the writings of the bible most of it is exaggeration & lies.
@breezebro To be perfectly honest I DON'T know the truth of it for absolute certainty. I haven't seen it first hand which is the only way one could know for certainty. All I know is that supporting evidence shows that many of the bible story's are not true. Why would you need an identifying mark on Cain when there are only three known people on earth? Cain built & populated a city in only 2 generations? God drowns every man woman & innocent child animal plant & fish because he is angry? WTF !!
@breezebro I have to say it is very refreshing to to read so much truth for a change & I thank you for it. Except for one thing I don't believe we are born guilty of anything. When the children were kept from Christ by his disciples he said "Suffer the little children to come unto me for they alone shall inherit the kingdom of heaven." One of the few truth I've found in the bible. I'm one of the least innocent of all but I try my best to do the best I can for those I meet no matter color/creed
@kanakaken When you dent a Jello mold all the Jello afterward is created with the same dent. Adam put the dent in the first Jello mold. Most people don't understand that they are born as a sinner. We are condemned from birth. This is good, cause that gave Christ the ability to go ahead and pay the penalty for our sin(the dent), all we have to do is accept it. Only His work can solve the problem of the dent.
"Trying my best to do the best I can" is relative righteousness = dent remains.
Oh and also...the narrator tells us that the old hebrew priests wrote that story to "SCARE" people that if they are evil, God will destroy them...WOW...the producers didnt pay their researchers here... its crealy stated in the bible that God WOULD NEVER destroy man again with a Flood. Also, it aint "hebrew scribes who thought of writing these things...it clearly states in the bible and even judaism knows...MOSES wrote the the Torrah or Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Deutoronomy and Numbers.
@acevedre Oh, because a vengeful, capricious god who's capable of wiping out the world on a whim couldn't be scary at all. And just because he's said no floods doesn't mean he A- won't use something else, or B- wasn't lying and perfectly willing to use another flood.
Just because the Key of Solomon claims to be written by Solomon doesn't mean it was. (The ancient Egyptians had no record of Moses, incidentally, and they were laborious note-takers.)
@mrjosephdomingo False, a soul is a spiritual believe. Your whole body is governed by your brain. When your brain dies, everything stops working. A true scientist should never make such a big mistake. Scientists go through a proper process of thinking and testings. Without such processes, he/she would be considered a hobbyist or simply a believer(a person who just wants to believe in something).
Noah's Ark????? hilarious. What, did he then get a jet plane to Australia and collect all the marsupials and then take them all back again after the flood?
Did Noah go to the Gallapagos islands and gather all those different unique species of finch? And then take them back again?
Bulls...: Genesis is fiction, allegory. From the 106 schools that make up the " Christian College Coalition" only 5 teach that Genesis has to be taken litterally and that the "global flood" really happened.
Please search and see this video on youtube and the next video as well to know whether the Quran says the world was flooded or not. " Dr Zakir Naik Vs Dr William Cambell Prt4 ( 1 of 6 ) " See the next video " Dr Zakir Naik Vs Dr William Cambell Prt4 ( 2 of 6 ) ".
Noah's Ark????? hilarious. What, did he then get a jet plane to Australia and collect all the marsupials and then take them all back again after the flood?
Did Noah go to the Gallapagos islands and gather all those different unique species of finch? And then take them back again?
Noah's Ark????? hilarious. What, did he then get a jet plane to Australia and collect all the marsupials and then take them all back again after the flood?
Did Noah go to the Gallapagos islands and gather all those different unique species of finch? And then take them back again?
I just don't understand how you could believe that there was a flood, and that it covered the world. How did the panda and polar bears survive, they are in Japan and North america, how did noah get these animals on to the ark, its soooooooooooo ridiculous
Why didn't the lions try to attack and eat him and the other animals on the ark, did he.. domesticate them before hand? Maybe he put them on leashes, maybe there is a giant teapot circling the sun and we just can't see it BUT I BELIEVE O LAWD!
check out recent news from 1st of January 2010 - recently re-discovered cuneiform tablet describes the ark as a circular reed raft, the first time a description of the ark has been translated. checkout all major news-feeds (Guardian, telegraph etc) & the British Museum.
That was very interesting reading. I hope that modern archaeology can shed some more light on the Sumerian and Babylonian cultures. Unfortunately it seems that war and strife is what's happening in that region nowadays. I hope that it stops and that we can try to find out more of the history of the region.
I am talking about Quran, and its very different from Bible..and as I said, read about the Quran then talk about it, but just saying nothing and nothing..that means u don't know about it at all.
in Bible, its just about faith..but in Quran, its about faith and prove..
tha''ts why many scientists became Muslims after..u can ask them why.
well..maybe that's because the majority (including countries with the highest education and living standard) do not know about really what is Islam, right?
And Muslims do not represent Islam.
So again, please do not judge about Islam if u don't really know about it.
That argument doesn't hold. If there was a correlation and a causation between Islam and science you would expect the countries that have a high amount of believers to do well in science. They don't, you have a negative correlation instead.
Also note that before Islam became the way it is today, Persia was one of the areas with the highest level of science and maths in the ancient world. It isn't anymore and that is in part due to Islamic teaching which stifled science and critical thinking.
I already said that one of the main centres for science and maths was in Persia in ancient times. However, that is not the case today, is it?
One of the reasons for this was that religion stopped the development of science in Muslim countries while in Europe religion started to loose its grip on the people and that's when science and maths finally started to flourish. After that the west started to get good education and living standard and is now way past the Muslim countries in science.
What really this argument about is "Islam" I told you to read about it, u can simply read, but u just go on and talk about people and what they did and how they r doing. I told u before "Muslims do not represent Islam" and it seems u don't want to learn or at least read about it.
The Quran is more than 600 pages, and there are many books about Quran and Islam, and u just simply say "The Qur'an doesn't explain anything" like u really know everything in it!!!!
This just shows u no nothing about it.
I'm just a collage student, and It's strange this is how a scientist think and talk about things like that without knowing what is it!!
well I don't really need to answer again if you are like that, do I?
The fundamental "explanation" given in the Qur'an is "God". Thus the Qur'an has no explanatory power at all.
Furthermore it does contain the, so called, "Satanic verses" (a.k.a "Gharaniq incident") which contradicts the idea that the Qur'an is divinely inspired. It instead points to the fact that it was solely a human work.
I just want to tell to anyone or everyone that there is a GOD.... That's what I'm pointing...
i believe that science is good...Studying science is a big help to a people.. But what if the deal is your life? Does your only purpose here on earth is only studying the Earth and its huge mystery?
Or it's time to take a deep breath and start analyzing that there is a God who controls everything..
I, my self also believes in science even I'm not so literate about it... There so many things here in earth are explained by science, right? In fact we use also medicine in certain circumstances and it's science, right?but It's not ends on that thing... Man surely know many things and discovers anything. Like you. But i will ask you again. Do you know that you also believe in GOD. Why? Because you keep on denying Him. You read the Bible. You studied and oppose it..
No, that argument doesn't hold. If you say that "not believing" in something means you think it exists, then you and everyone else believe in everything. Including square circles, pixies, Santa etc.
I do not believe in any god (there are millions of them in human history, not just one). The reason is that I have no evidence for any of them ever existing. The sound thing is not to believe such claims before evidence is shown.
Evolution is not "accidental". It has a random part (genetic change) and a non-random part (natural selection). Thus the change in a species 8and this is well documanted) is not random but instead one that is not selected for destruction. Over time this leads to genetic change and eventually speciation. This has been observed in nature and in the lab and you can get the info online. check it out.
Just like as I said:The perfect evidence that God exist, is man.
Example:The CIRCUMCISION.If we are from species that evolved,do you think that those kind will learn to harm themselves to be circumcised?I think not! Even there is a country that they don't do that!. Why people have been circumcised and still doing it up to now? It is not an accident. It is a command of God (Genesis 17:9-13) to man.
You can't find animals that have been circumcised by themselves. It is exclusive for man only.
If you ever did that action against a grown man against his will you would be put in jail for "sexual assault" and "mutilation"! You would be doing a long stretch and have to pay a huge sum in compensation for mutilating that man.
How can you possibly think that it is a good thing to do that crime against an innocent baby?!
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. (Voltaire)
You can't find animals that have put members of their own species in gas chambers either!
Are you saying that the fact you can't find animals that commit genocide, sexual mutilation etc. against members of their own species is a sign that "God exist"? That evil acts is a sign o God+
You cannot find it on the animals...it is Exclusive for human/people/man/us only!!!!!!
Its not evil..... and it is not a crime.... I never know that someone(example.doctor) have been put on jail after they circumcised a person or a baby.... I think that you just can't accept the fact that circumcision is from sexual mutilation... why many country do that....
It is illegal to circumcise a man without his consent! (obviously the same should be true for a baby). The fact that people in the USA do this to kids (and some kids get killed by that) is no reason to do it. And not a single medical association recommend this.
Female circumcision is illegal and male one should be it too (or you discriminate). Most males (~85%) in the world are not circumcised as it is a religious dogma and they live longer.
If you are wondering about circumcision, check up what the Medical Associations say. It is forbidden in the Nordic countries. Canada and Australia urge not to do it. Many courts have found it a crime etc.. There are no positive medical effects documented (despite biased research from religious people), it's a painful procedure and it causes damage and in rare cases death.
In my view anyone that does it is a child molester. (they are if they do it do girl babies, right?)
As I said, gassing people, drug abuse etc are also only seen amongst humans. So one crime (involuntary mutilation of the genitals) does make us "special" in the eye of "the Lord"?
Wow, what does that say about the character of this God?
If "evil acts" reflects "human rebellion" against God, then "forced circumcision" also is an act of human rebellion against God, right?
To sexually mutilate a person against his/her will is an evil act, isn't it?
Or would you say that if a stranger grabs a child and starts cutting bits off that child's genitals, that this stranger is *not* doing something evil or illegal? That it should be seen as something good if a stranger rushes up to a mother and does this to her child?
Communication between members in a group is observed amongst other primates, wolves etc, they also show love, aggresion etc. so why do you think we are so special?
many responses to feelings are not learned they are genetic, like smiling. a blind child will still smile even though it has never seen one.
Im not some religous giant nor some science fanatic, science can only study things with in its own ¨square¨, there are things which we will never be able to answer through the so called ¨logical reasoning¨. At the same time the purpose of ¨religion¨ isnt to explain to you newtons laws of universal gravity, that something man discovered, it was always there, he just realized it is there...
aaahhhhaaaahhhh 1 month ago
@aaahhhhaaaahhhh "there are things which we will never be able to answer through the so called ¨logical reasoning¨"
That's total crap. Only things that aren't in the bounds of reality, such as Mother Goose fairy tales, fit that description.
thomasjtheobald 3 days ago
why arent atheist thumbsing up this video?
OMGitsSEVEN 1 month ago
Isaiah 59:9…. We look for light (understanding), but all is darkness (mystery); for brightness (enlightenment), but we walk in deep shadows (that which are hidden or unknown).To solve these mysteries we should look within us, for the kingdom of God is knowledge and wisdom within every man, woman and child.
slydevil3 3 months ago
Part 3: Of course this is still open for human debate, but in the end this is what God wants us to see. It was and is always about man and his way of thinking. There were wickedness on the earth (= man’s mind were distorted, fast forward 2011 war, terror, monopolies, control) and it had to be washed away by a flood (words of wisdom, or new ways) so that God can make a new promise which was and is Christ in the end.. deekay19722011@hotmail.com.
slydevil3 3 months ago
@slydevil3 Circular reasoning: You just assume the Bible says blah blah blah...then you assume its true.
InternetDarkLord 3 months ago
@InternetDarkLord He created Light on the first day and added the sun and moon on the third day. Problem created insist on a solution. Science did not put those words there so why expect an answer from them. Circular reasoning, umm…let me see, Proverbs 1:7 and 29 / 1 Corinthians 2:13 (KJV) 13Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
slydevil3 3 months ago
@slydevil3 STILL circular reasoning, you are merely assuming that the Bible is true, then citing it as proof.
InternetDarkLord 3 months ago
@InternetDarkLord The Bible is a mere source towards seeking the truth. When He left He opened their minds to “understand, keyword” the scriptures” So the scriptures leaves much to conjecture. Thus is my reasoning, Spiritual truth and wisdom. Where is your reasoning from, the realm of science and conjecture? Circular reasoning is like Proverbs 4:19The way of the wicked (misinformed) is as darkness: they know not at what they stumble.
slydevil3 3 months ago
@slydevil3 THAT IS STILL CIRCULAR REASONING! YOU JUST ASSUME SOMETHING IS TRUE!
InternetDarkLord 3 months ago
@InternetDarkLord I look forward to our next encounter.I hope there will be more?
slydevil3 3 months ago
@slydevil3 Depends. Your circular reasoning makes me dizzy.
InternetDarkLord 3 months ago
@InternetDarkLord what is your truth?
slydevil3 3 months ago
@slydevil3 Hard facts and rigorous logic
InternetDarkLord 3 months ago
Part 2: Psalms 118:8 it is better to trust in God than to put confidence in man. Noah=man. If you will the animals=man with different types of behavior. The ark= promise of God. The FLOODED ‘earth’ = conscious ‘mind of man’ The flood waters (waters used plural) Gen 7:17 And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased…= also read Proverbs 18:4 (KJV) 4The words of a man's mouth are as deep waters, and the wellspring of wisdom as a flowing brook.
slydevil3 3 months ago
Part 1: That is just it, all these opinions and debate, amounts to a deluge, drowning ourselves in a flood of misunderstanding, war and tyranny. All the evidence in this documentary is mere suggestions and speculation. In the end the focus is shifted from a global flood to a regional flood. Yeah that sounds more believable. What happens if we do look at it the way Genesis 6 describes it?
slydevil3 3 months ago
one event is taken away, and another one is put away, somethings wrong,, here
k0it123 4 months ago
interesting theory but were is the evidence to back up the story that the flood did not happen as suggested in this video.
ORIANA250 5 months ago
@ORIANA250 evidence such as....
InternetDarkLord 5 months ago
@InternetDarkLord any evidence, they put this story together with absolutely no evidence, whats there evidence, a story of some guy with the name of noah, or our guy here says its impossible so it is because he says so, lol.
ORIANA250 5 months ago
@ORIANA250 That does not prove "the flood did not happen as suggested." There is no evidence of the Bible Flood at all, it did not happen any particular way. This video merely suggests how the Bible myth started.
InternetDarkLord 5 months ago
@InternetDarkLord Your entitled to believe what ever you want, but there is alot more evidence that a flood did take place than you probly know about and that this program will fully fails to mention or answer.
More than 250 Flood legends from all parts of the world have been found. Most have similarities to the Genesis story.
ORIANA250 5 months ago
@ORIANA250 Nonsense, there are many widespread myths: mermaids, UFOs, sun gods, moon goddesses, saviors, underworlds, ghosts, witches etc. My favorite are living ape-men, like Yeti or Bigfoot, which are backed up by thousands of living eyewitnesses, photos, videos, footprints, etc. The evidence ape-men are alive would trump the flood myths any day in court, are they still alive?
InternetDarkLord 5 months ago
@InternetDarkLord Good job putting the flood in with a bunch of crap that there is very poor evidence for. Fact! Petrified clams in the closed position (found all over the world) even at the top 3,000 feet of Mt. Everest (from 26,000-29,000 feet) is made up of sedimentary rock packed with seashells and other ocean-dwelling animals.
Sedimentary rock is found all over the world and is formed in water.
Bent rock layers, fossil graveyards, and poly-strata fossils are best explained by a Flood.
ORIANA250 5 months ago
@ORIANA250 Sedimentary rock formed over millions of years, then tectonic plate motion pushed up mountains like Everest. Bent rock layers also form over eons, soft layers would run into one big mess. Polystrate fossils have been explained, watch potholer54debunk's video on the subject. And the total number of animals like crinoids in those layers are greater than the surface area of the earth, they could not be deposited at once!
InternetDarkLord 5 months ago
@InternetDarkLord ok how do you explain whale fossils standing on end going through many hundreds of layers that take millions of years to form. the beings were buried quickly and fossilized. How long does it take to form 1 inch of diatoms and when you find that answer, how do you explain diatomaceous earth quarry's up to 1500 feet thick of solid diatoms.
ORIANA250 5 months ago
@ORIANA250 Not all layers take millions of years to form, rythmites or varves form periodically. Also, fossils through multiple layers do not need a global flood instead of many different smaller bodies of water, and don't require a flood per se at all.
Diatoms, on the other hand, were deposited over millions of years, calcite formation releases 11,290 joules of energy per gram, and 5,60,.000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 joules would boil away the flood.
InternetDarkLord 5 months ago
@InternetDarkLord ok so if it takes millions of years to create diatom formation 1500 feet thick how did a whale standing on end fossilize. and explain how diatoms release heat energy please.
ORIANA250 4 months ago
@ORIANA250 The whale did not have fossilize on end, because of tectonic plate motion, layers tilt. Just look at a geology book. And why would this fossil entail ONE GLOBAL flood? or a FLOOD in the first place?
Chemical bonds store energy, when they change they absorb or release energy. Large concrete structures like dams generate heat for this reason. And I vastly underestimated heat, because the geologic layers are interlaced with volcanic rock and meteor craters. Where did the heat go?
InternetDarkLord 4 months ago
@InternetDarkLord well according to what you believe it takes 1000 years to build up one inch of dead diatoms and the whale was fossilized through hundreds of layers of diatoms how could this be unless it was buried in them quickly. the heat your talking about being built up from dead diatoms is nothing compared to the amount of water it was submerged in, its like putting a red hot plate into a pale of water, the water dissipates the heat very rapidly.
ORIANA250 4 months ago
@ORIANA250 Where did I say that?
Wrong, 5600000000000000000000000000 joules would be an underestimate because it does not include igneous rock or impact craters. The ocean, and atmosphere would vaporize.
Also, water has a high specific heat due to the polar structure of water molecules. This creates our planet's climate.
InternetDarkLord 4 months ago
@InternetDarkLord I think now you are just straight up making stuff up but at least your using the word estimate, your talking about heat hotter than the surface of the sun and if diatoms got that hot I don't think there would be any thing left of them, they would incinerate into nothing, never mind any layers of them to be found and mined.
ORIANA250 4 months ago
@ORIANA250 I am not making anything up, the heat generated by hardening calcite can be felt at many large concrete structures. Everything I say is a widely known science fact!
That is my point: Those diatoms died over a vast amount of time. Nothing like Noah's Farce ever deposited the earth's sedimentary layers.
InternetDarkLord 4 months ago
@InternetDarkLord I am not disagreeing with you about heat being generated, I am disagreeing that 560 cajilion degrees can be made some how. if the diatoms did die over a vast amount of time how come there are not dirt layers in between and how come they find large fossils going through many layers of it. also I have seen many pictures of petrified trees going through many layers of sedimentary rock. here is a good question, how come we find fossils at all, scavengers allways clean them up.
ORIANA250 4 months ago
@ORIANA250 Sometimes there are impurities in rock layers.
Avalanches and other mishaps can kill and bury animals instantly. Two dinosaurs were once found locked in combat in rock formed by desert sand dunes in Mongolia.
Rock layers are often divided by seasons or tides into sublayers that trees can grow through.
Are aware some sedimentary rock is not formed by water? Some sandstone is formed by desert, desert varnish by exposure to air, tillite by glaciers, etc.
InternetDarkLord 4 months ago
@InternetDarkLord never heard of a tree growing through a hundred plus feet of layers to find sun light. I have no doubt that you will find the occasional fossil of some thing that died naturally, but to have thousands and thousands of fossils found in a short period of time and in a close proximity, suggests catastrophic event, fossils are found like this all over the planet. sedimentary rock is formed by water, after it dries up and is compressed it turns to rock, explain unconformities.
ORIANA250 4 months ago
@ORIANA250 The layers formed as the tree grew, potholer54 debunks has a video explaining this.
Fossil beds don't need ONE GLOBAL flood. There are too many fossils in stone layers like the Karroo Formation, they could not possibly all be alive at once. Some fossils like crinoids are so numerous they would have covered more area than the earth's surface. There coral and bryozoan reefs far too thick for just one flood. There is no possible way so many animals all died in one year. Want more?
InternetDarkLord 4 months ago
@InternetDarkLord I would like to hear the explanation of how so many layers form while the tree is growing, and how come that does not happen today. you are also over exaggerating how many crinoids there are, you are also assuming that our planet today is the same as it was back then, there were a great deal more animals and plant life before the flood.
ORIANA250 4 months ago
@ORIANA250 Cite a specific example of polystrate trees, we will talk.
Cite evidence that I exaggerate any numbers. All I hear from you is stupid cliches.
Explain how plant and animal life can be greater in extent than the earth's surface.
Explain multiple massive, stratified coral and bryozoan reefs.
Explain why any of this required ONE GLOBAL FLOOD, not just different bodies of water at different times.
InternetDarkLord 4 months ago
@InternetDarkLord polystrate trees joggins in nova scotia has a forest.
cite evidence for your exagerated numbers, uh well you claim there are more crinoids than surface area on the planet with no evidence.
plant and animal life was great, do you have any proof that there are enough fossils found to cover the surface of the earth as you claim.
how come the oldest coral is about 4400 years old.
I am not saying it does require a global flood, I am saying evidence suggests it.
ORIANA250 4 months ago
@ORIANA250 Watch "Dinosaur blood and polystrate trees debunked" on Potholer54debunks.
Crinoid formations in places are over 2000 feet thick. The Mission Canyon Formation has 10,000 cubic miles of it.
The Karroo Formation has too many fossils for one event.
The Great Barrier Reef is at least 2 million years old. Also, why are there fossil reefs between sedimentary layers?
READ a geology book.
Nothing you say suggest ONE GLOBAL flood, or even a flood at all!
InternetDarkLord 4 months ago
@InternetDarkLord I like your debunker, lol, he says what I have been saying, things get buried quickly and stalagmite forms quickly, rather than supporting the belief it takes millions of years. "Crinoid formations in places are over 2000 feet thick. The Mission Canyon Formation has 10,000 cubic miles of it." that suggests things died quickly, unless they all migrated to a mass grave to die in the same place. how do they know the great barrier reef is that old.
ORIANA250 4 months ago
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InternetDarkLord 4 months ago
@ORIANA250 No, he said the layers deposited quickly, that is not complete stone formation. Trees cannot grow through solid rock, so it proves it hardened later.
The crinoid layers are so massive, they would cover all the earth with crinoids to spare. Then there's more fossils like the Karroo Formation.
Reefs can be dated by the rate of growth, radiometric dating, etc. But your "4400" years would debunk the Bible anyway: massive reefs are between sedimentary layers. That's still impossible!
InternetDarkLord 4 months ago
why do christians think atheists hate god? We don't believe in god, you might as awell say we hate santa claus or the tooth fairy. They're just stories, you don't hate stories. You can only hate something you believe in.
nancy6ify 5 months ago 2
it is funny, how after all these facts, they still depict the first man as a white man!!! not being racist, but are we looking at the same program? what changed sooooooo much after the garden of eden? o, ok. let's overlook that, right!!! did yall see how they said that then moved on to something right else? let's be serious!!!
SuperPhive 7 months ago
@SuperPhive This program is about Sumerians, the garden of Eden never existed. But early man was black, like the Mitochondrial Eve, white skin evolved much later.
InternetDarkLord 7 months ago
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Bullshit... The Bible is the true word of God.
CarlaLOVeHaitiCreole 8 months ago
If the Imaginary Bible Flood created the sedimentary layers, why are coral and bryozoan reefs stratified in the strata?
InternetDarkLord 8 months ago
lol what you get when you have the media make videos of Noah... This is all theories and fictional play... I doubt it happened globally it probably flood locally only one Continent not the whole earth! In the bible it says the lord promises no more floods on earth, there has been many floods on earth... also it says he would make it rain 40 days and nights in genesis 7:4 so what do you believe? lol...
JD198276 9 months ago
The video is seems very bias, made by athiests...
markfriesen1979 9 months ago
@markfriesen1979
to me the video seems very stupid not well planned in the scripts, has NOTHING to do with anyone's belief system but a a book called the BIBLE ... Sorry but it is what it is, in the end NO one knows what brought us to earth or what made us and the earth!! But science do prove more facts then fiction as a religion does... And the lord did not want anyone to follow but lead yourself in your own fate... so why is there so many CULTS/Religions? to follow?
JD198276 9 months ago
@JD198276 Could it mean you are all committing a sin by following a religion? lol...
Im spiritual, and believe in a god... but do not believe in any religion hope that dont make me an atheist, that I dont follow a cult but lead myself in my own fate!!
JD198276 9 months ago
Why this is wrong:
1) If Noah knew the storm was coming, wouldn't he be prepared already and have everything packed instead of relaxing with the fam, and eating dinner?
2) They found Noah's Ark already: youtube.com/watch?v=QVCvzGr7h1g
SnowBunnieSqueakyToy 9 months ago
this program is rubbish!!!
buddieface 10 months ago
Well it's official - discovery channel is a joke and will lose viewers - right on- thats what they deserve. God bless : )
fernieboy100 10 months ago
Discovery is dumb because it says that it rained from heaven and earth and the boat was covered in black pitch and it seals the boat
ada2step 10 months ago
key concept: if you don't pay your debts, you are liable to end up a slave. Same as today then, with governments enslaving us to pay bankers Debts... Nothing new under the sun hey...
jamesHoughton1978 10 months ago
If some freak storm happened in an area that almost never gets rain. It would be seen as some divine act. Thing about the desert is it rarely rains but when it does it POURS.
GTBurns48215 10 months ago 11
How do they explain the boat in Turkey that is the exact measurements of the biblical ark? Some people thing the bible's version is a stretch.... This is stretching it a mile.
stingosdungeon 11 months ago
@stingosdungeon there is no boat in turkey lol were you not paying attention??
raguilar6330 11 months ago
OMG ! I think they are saying there was not a global flood ! !
gregrutz 11 months ago
Why do you born again Christians feel so angry about atheists, people whose only 'failing' is that they just don't happen to believe in a story which by its very nature cannot be proved?
I dunno, perhaps atheists they just make you feel a bit self conscious about believing in myths.
ma049 1 year ago 12
@ma049 because they hate it when people finds the truth about their religion
gtsgtsgt 11 months ago
@ma049 shut up , and enjoy how much comcast sucks !
if you want to hate God , that's your choice , have fun in Hell is all i have to say
beerguzzlenredsoxfan 6 months ago
@beerguzzlenredsoxfan
"if you want to hate God , that's your choice"
Well the obvious question to ask at this point is when did I ever say I hated God? I don't believe in God that is true enough but that does not equate to hating him. I don't hate unicorns either.
"shut up , and enjoy how much comcast sucks !"
What is comcast when it is at home?
ma049 6 months ago
lol @ the boy diving into the water to save the turtle
TheLebaneseRambo 1 year ago
The australian geologist is the only one talking sense.
paulscape72 1 year ago
Al Gore has demanded this to be banned from youtube as it says global warming is BS. It will be removed shortly...
1973mazdarx4coupe 1 year ago
Noah never took his family on board . . . why don't they consult Quran????
5am33na 1 year ago
Oh Boy this are so stupid or ignorant conclusions or deductions base only on the reasoning of humans....they make me laugh...hahaha for crying a loud yest read the actual prints.
LittleModig 1 year ago
at first he says 40 days is not enough for the flooding and now 7 is good... who made this documentary by the way?
esartur 1 year ago
@esartur 40 days is not enough to flood the entire planet, though seven days was enough to flood the surrounding area of the Noah of Mesopotamia in Iran, making him believe the entire earth was flooded.
charles030981 1 year ago
@charles030981
"Forty" is in the Middle East often used to mean "a lot of" and doesn't necessarily mean 40 exactly, compare with the story of "Ali Baba and the forty robbers". So "forty days and forty nights" is more like "and indeterminate long period of time."
Draugh39 1 year ago
@Draugh39 I dont believe you. Can you please provide me some evidence to support your claim. I've never heard or read that any where in my life.
40 means 40. I've never, ever seen any instance where 40 meant anything but 40!!!!
charles030981 1 year ago
@charles030981
Hebrew didn't have a number system those like you write. Those are arabic numbers. I have posed a link to you wich describes this in more detail (as I can't put a link directly into this field)
Draugh39 1 year ago
@Draugh39 Where is the link?????
Send it to me in a message..
charles030981 1 year ago
@Draugh39 Where did the rain come from? Where did 29,000 feet of water go?
gregrutz 1 year ago
@gregrutz
The story in the Bible and the Quran are retold millenia after the Gilgamesh story, of which they are quite obviously based. No sane person think that the world was flooded the way it is described in the Bible. As you hint at , there simply isn't enough water, there is no worldwode indicator that this has happened, etc etc.
Draugh39 1 year ago
@Draugh39 '' No sane person think that the world was flooded the way it is described in the Bible''
Too bad 60% of Americans, mostly in the "Bible Belt', do think there was a flood. They are not very smart.
gregrutz 1 year ago
@gregrutz Well mister smart, It was documented 7,000 years ago by the summerians,, Arcologicaly it has been proven and the time line established,, Boy I wish I was as smart as you.
darrellmellissa 1 year ago
@darrellmellissa
The Summerians described a localk flood. Quite simmilar to what we have in Australia right now. There are however no evidence at all for a worldwide flood. Local floods are actually quite common, just how many have we had in the last 10 years? So the fact that you have many different flood stories is not surpricing is it?
Draugh39 1 year ago
@darrellmellissa The bibble says the earth is 6000 years old, I guess you proved it wrong. It says there was a flood 4400 years ago, wrong again.
gregrutz 1 year ago
@gregrutz Sorry greg the bibble is not the last wrd on it,, I hope this does not upset you too much.
darrellmellissa 1 year ago
@gregrutz and it is this very gullibility that the Jews use to trick th western world. Nature works by natural selection. Humans work by natural, cultural and religious selection. We breed ignorance and bigotry.
paulscape72 1 year ago
@gregrutz
By the way I prefer metric. Feet is very different depending on which country you are in, which is why it was standardised when we (well most of the world) when metric.
Just a little dig, don't read too much into this. :-)
Have a great New Year!
Draugh39 1 year ago
@charles030981
40 days in Hebrew is different then our 40 days... each day was 1k years in our time... So what the ministry calculated...
JD198276 9 months ago
Let`s go the other way around?. Can evolution flood the hole earth?. Can this process, change the hole universe too?. An atheist probably say ..yes! And in that process, everything is possible, correct is ?. Only under that believe or law all things make sense. Make sense to believe in aliens gods, according to S Hawking or Richard Dawkins!. They coming to flood the mind of atheist very soon. Amen
juandey 1 year ago
@juandey what?!
elcondepatula 1 year ago
And for those who think my words are racist, please dont forget that the real racist called us dajjal (inti christ). Fucking racist sand nigger diaper head.
It (Satan) is that Angel who was proud enough to believe himself God; brave enough to buy his independence at the price of eternal suffering and torture; beautiful enough to have adored himself in full divine light; strong enough to still reign in darkness amidst agony, and to have made himself a throne out of this inextinguishable pyre.
bakkerrich1979 1 year ago
look up Lake Agassiz and the 8.2 kiloyear event scientific proof of worldwide flooding, not necessarily the whole world covered in water, but severe localized flooding in areas all over the globe
blsny213 1 year ago
Man those are some intense unibrow's!!
WhitePowerPatriot88 1 year ago
this is not even close to the truth..stupid fools...deny the quran,deny the bible,deny the torah,deny the fact..open your ayes fools..i think u are the dajjal...
antumalaya100 1 year ago
@antumalaya100 Calling people stupid doesnt make them stupid. The facts are simple, the dumbest people in the world are religeous fucks. See any quran reading countries building nukes...nope. Sand niggers can only fight wars with sticks and rocks. The quran and bible and torah were coppied from the work of the sumerians who believed in aliens. You are just as stupid as non believers fucktard. The smartest people in the world are atheists and yes, brains is everything.
bakkerrich1979 1 year ago
You don't have to go to Australia breezebro, to know it's there It's the only place you'll find terrestrial kangaroos, emus platypus & echidnas. You can find kangaroos in other countries but they live in trees.
"Faith:2 Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence." Unfortunately I don't have that sort of faith I don't have to see it first hand but there has to be 'logical proof & material evidence. Keep up the good work.
kanakaken 1 year ago
The real truth of the bible is; It's believable only if you discard all the laws of logic, nature, physics & chemistry and can accept that stories more incredible than fairy tales are true. In believing in the bible you would definitely have to believe in Santa & the tooth fairy as well. If you ram this shit down a child's throat most WILL believe, very few will if allowed to gain adulthood without it because most will gain enough knowledge tempered with a modicum of logic.
kanakaken 1 year ago
Further "truths" in the bible; GE9:12-16 because god forgot to implement the laws of light refraction he brought them in by making the first rainbow after the flood. GE18:1,7-8 God & Abraham sat down & ate solid food together. GE32:24-30 God has a wrestling match with Jacob & is losing until he dislocates Jacob's hip. EX4:24 God thinks to kill Moses one of his prime prophets but changes his mind. LE11:20-21 There are winged creature, birds or insects, that go around on all fours. Crap all of it.
kanakaken 1 year ago
So, you've reduced Noah to a raft on a river with a few caged animals that landed in the Persian Gulf.
Once you depart from the bible you can make up anything you want.
breezebro 1 year ago
@breezebro Why not, that's what the writers of the bible did, they made it up. There is only a semblance of truth in the writings of the bible most of it is exaggeration & lies.
kanakaken 1 year ago
@kanakaken Do you know that..really know that for certain? No, you don't. Have a good time walking around dead wrong but with a smile on your face.
breezebro 1 year ago
@breezebro To be perfectly honest I DON'T know the truth of it for absolute certainty. I haven't seen it first hand which is the only way one could know for certainty. All I know is that supporting evidence shows that many of the bible story's are not true. Why would you need an identifying mark on Cain when there are only three known people on earth? Cain built & populated a city in only 2 generations? God drowns every man woman & innocent child animal plant & fish because he is angry? WTF !!
kanakaken 1 year ago
@kanakaken I've never been to Australia but I would bet all the money I have that it truly exists= faith in what I've been told and read.
No, supporting evidence does not show the bible story's are not true. God doesn't give all the details. You think he needed an ark to save people?
Other people on the earth, how would Cain or able ever produce children if there weren't?
We are all born guilty.
The people God drowned weren't innocent and neither are you. God kills EVERYBODY eventually.
breezebro 1 year ago
@breezebro I have to say it is very refreshing to to read so much truth for a change & I thank you for it. Except for one thing I don't believe we are born guilty of anything. When the children were kept from Christ by his disciples he said "Suffer the little children to come unto me for they alone shall inherit the kingdom of heaven." One of the few truth I've found in the bible. I'm one of the least innocent of all but I try my best to do the best I can for those I meet no matter color/creed
kanakaken 1 year ago
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@kanakaken When you dent a Jello mold all the Jello afterward is created with the same dent. Adam put the dent in the first Jello mold. Most people don't understand that they are born as a sinner. We are condemned from birth. This is good, cause that gave Christ the ability to go ahead and pay the penalty for our sin(the dent), all we have to do is accept it. Only His work can solve the problem of the dent.
"Trying my best to do the best I can" is relative righteousness = dent remains.
breezebro 1 year ago
The saltWater mite support the deadSea--flood?
Aikwood666 1 year ago
Oh and also...the narrator tells us that the old hebrew priests wrote that story to "SCARE" people that if they are evil, God will destroy them...WOW...the producers didnt pay their researchers here... its crealy stated in the bible that God WOULD NEVER destroy man again with a Flood. Also, it aint "hebrew scribes who thought of writing these things...it clearly states in the bible and even judaism knows...MOSES wrote the the Torrah or Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Deutoronomy and Numbers.
acevedre 1 year ago
@acevedre Oh, because a vengeful, capricious god who's capable of wiping out the world on a whim couldn't be scary at all. And just because he's said no floods doesn't mean he A- won't use something else, or B- wasn't lying and perfectly willing to use another flood.
Just because the Key of Solomon claims to be written by Solomon doesn't mean it was. (The ancient Egyptians had no record of Moses, incidentally, and they were laborious note-takers.)
hailvishnu 1 year ago
@acevedre "God WOULD NEVER destroy man again with a Flood"
God said: "Oh, crap! whoops... I have made a big mistake. This is getting out of hand." And then it took God 40 days to fix the crap up.
Yeah... that's one big poo poo he had done. I hope he learned his lesson.
nicelogin2 1 year ago
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TheAgentbg 1 year ago
scientist dont believe in GOD!they even tell us were from monkeys.animals hav no souls.human has
mrjosephdomingo 1 year ago
@mrjosephdomingo False, a soul is a spiritual believe. Your whole body is governed by your brain. When your brain dies, everything stops working. A true scientist should never make such a big mistake. Scientists go through a proper process of thinking and testings. Without such processes, he/she would be considered a hobbyist or simply a believer(a person who just wants to believe in something).
nicelogin2 1 year ago
@mrjosephdomingo
well then, abandon everything science has given you as it obviously is completely evil.
you can start with your computer.
foxmcloud555 1 year ago
Jesus said: "I am the way, the truth, and the life, no man cometh unto the Father but through me" (John 14:6)
EnderGate 1 year ago
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Noah's Ark????? hilarious. What, did he then get a jet plane to Australia and collect all the marsupials and then take them all back again after the flood?
Did Noah go to the Gallapagos islands and gather all those different unique species of finch? And then take them back again?
Only a REAL moron could think this was true
lizazoon 1 year ago
Bulls...: Genesis is fiction, allegory. From the 106 schools that make up the " Christian College Coalition" only 5 teach that Genesis has to be taken litterally and that the "global flood" really happened.
lizazoon 1 year ago
Please search and see this video on youtube and the next video as well to know whether the Quran says the world was flooded or not. " Dr Zakir Naik Vs Dr William Cambell Prt4 ( 1 of 6 ) " See the next video " Dr Zakir Naik Vs Dr William Cambell Prt4 ( 2 of 6 ) ".
Partytime60 1 year ago
The TRUTH hurts. Great Video.
gregrutz 1 year ago
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Noah's Ark????? hilarious. What, did he then get a jet plane to Australia and collect all the marsupials and then take them all back again after the flood?
Did Noah go to the Gallapagos islands and gather all those different unique species of finch? And then take them back again?
Only a REAL moron could think this was true.
TheMonkeetimes 1 year ago
TheMonkeetimes:
Noah's Ark????? hilarious. What, did he then get a jet plane to Australia and collect all the marsupials and then take them all back again after the flood?
Did Noah go to the Gallapagos islands and gather all those different unique species of finch? And then take them back again?
Only a REAL moron could think this was true
lizazoon 1 year ago
for those who questioned the lord, parished. as society continues to question what he has created, there day is approaching to meet thy maker.
amanda601 1 year ago
" there day is approaching to meet thy maker. "
I already know my parents, so what is your point?
Draugh39 1 year ago
Bullshit it is !!!
lizazoon 2 years ago
fuck this bullshit!!
sahkkoban 2 years ago
believe or not.., its all ur opinion.
But I, i believe in the bible says. that Noah build a boat bcoz a flood is coming.
jfrancisco19 2 years ago
I just don't understand how you could believe that there was a flood, and that it covered the world. How did the panda and polar bears survive, they are in Japan and North america, how did noah get these animals on to the ark, its soooooooooooo ridiculous
rainbowspite222 2 years ago
@rainbowspite222 : sorry but panda's are from China and not Japan
kikomanster 1 year ago
Why didn't the lions try to attack and eat him and the other animals on the ark, did he.. domesticate them before hand? Maybe he put them on leashes, maybe there is a giant teapot circling the sun and we just can't see it BUT I BELIEVE O LAWD!
rainbowspite222 2 years ago
This is Horrible and very Misleading.
inmysoul12 2 years ago
check out recent news from 1st of January 2010 - recently re-discovered cuneiform tablet describes the ark as a circular reed raft, the first time a description of the ark has been translated. checkout all major news-feeds (Guardian, telegraph etc) & the British Museum.
chrissezhello 2 years ago
THANKS!
That was very interesting reading. I hope that modern archaeology can shed some more light on the Sumerian and Babylonian cultures. Unfortunately it seems that war and strife is what's happening in that region nowadays. I hope that it stops and that we can try to find out more of the history of the region.
Draugh39 2 years ago
I am talking about Quran, and its very different from Bible..and as I said, read about the Quran then talk about it, but just saying nothing and nothing..that means u don't know about it at all.
in Bible, its just about faith..but in Quran, its about faith and prove..
tha''ts why many scientists became Muslims after..u can ask them why.
thaaaa85 2 years ago
Actually the majority of the top scientists are non-religious.
The countries with the highest education and living standard are also the most non-religious.
The countries with the highest amount of Muslims are doing very poorly in science compared to countries with very few Muslims.
This indicates the complete opposite of what you are claiming, doesn't it?
Draugh39 2 years ago
well..maybe that's because the majority (including countries with the highest education and living standard) do not know about really what is Islam, right?
And Muslims do not represent Islam.
So again, please do not judge about Islam if u don't really know about it.
thaaaa85 2 years ago
That argument doesn't hold. If there was a correlation and a causation between Islam and science you would expect the countries that have a high amount of believers to do well in science. They don't, you have a negative correlation instead.
Also note that before Islam became the way it is today, Persia was one of the areas with the highest level of science and maths in the ancient world. It isn't anymore and that is in part due to Islamic teaching which stifled science and critical thinking.
Draugh39 2 years ago
Read before you talk about it.
And actually Muslims scientists improved science and maths. And you can read about they did.
If u don't want to read and know about Islam, and you still continue on this argument, then I have to say this is going no where.
thaaaa85 2 years ago
I already said that one of the main centres for science and maths was in Persia in ancient times. However, that is not the case today, is it?
One of the reasons for this was that religion stopped the development of science in Muslim countries while in Europe religion started to loose its grip on the people and that's when science and maths finally started to flourish. After that the west started to get good education and living standard and is now way past the Muslim countries in science.
Draugh39 2 years ago
What really this argument about is "Islam" I told you to read about it, u can simply read, but u just go on and talk about people and what they did and how they r doing. I told u before "Muslims do not represent Islam" and it seems u don't want to learn or at least read about it.
In the end it's up to you.
thaaaa85 2 years ago
Again. The Qur'an doesn't explain anything, neither does the Bible. A god is not an explanation:
You are just replacing one "unknown" (Say; "How did animals and plants get here"?) with another unknown ("God made them").
The last statement doesn't explain *ANYTHING*. It is a statement of ignorance and is why religion is detrimental to discoveries and science.
Draugh39 2 years ago
The Quran is more than 600 pages, and there are many books about Quran and Islam, and u just simply say "The Qur'an doesn't explain anything" like u really know everything in it!!!!
This just shows u no nothing about it.
I'm just a collage student, and It's strange this is how a scientist think and talk about things like that without knowing what is it!!
well I don't really need to answer again if you are like that, do I?
thaaaa85 2 years ago
The fundamental "explanation" given in the Qur'an is "God". Thus the Qur'an has no explanatory power at all.
Furthermore it does contain the, so called, "Satanic verses" (a.k.a "Gharaniq incident") which contradicts the idea that the Qur'an is divinely inspired. It instead points to the fact that it was solely a human work.
Draugh39 2 years ago
The Gharaniq incidenis not true story..
And you can read and watch this video if u say its human work
search about "quranmiracles" dot com..or in internet
and u can search in youtube about scientists comments on scientific miracles in quran
thaaaa85 2 years ago
The satanic verses are a documented fact.
Draugh39 2 years ago
I just want to tell to anyone or everyone that there is a GOD.... That's what I'm pointing...
i believe that science is good...Studying science is a big help to a people.. But what if the deal is your life? Does your only purpose here on earth is only studying the Earth and its huge mystery?
Or it's time to take a deep breath and start analyzing that there is a God who controls everything..
webster0005 2 years ago
Webster0005: You asked "what if the deal is your life", in regards to science and religion.
I have to tell you that any sane person would choose science.
The cure for leprosy is according to the bible (Leviticus 14:49-53): a blood sacrifice of a bird and incantations.
Science developed a MDT treatment.
So if your life is on the line, for instance through a deadly disease or injury; do you choose science or is praying better?
Draugh39 2 years ago
I, my self also believes in science even I'm not so literate about it... There so many things here in earth are explained by science, right? In fact we use also medicine in certain circumstances and it's science, right?but It's not ends on that thing... Man surely know many things and discovers anything. Like you. But i will ask you again. Do you know that you also believe in GOD. Why? Because you keep on denying Him. You read the Bible. You studied and oppose it..
(~~,) God bless..
webster0005 2 years ago
No, that argument doesn't hold. If you say that "not believing" in something means you think it exists, then you and everyone else believe in everything. Including square circles, pixies, Santa etc.
I do not believe in any god (there are millions of them in human history, not just one). The reason is that I have no evidence for any of them ever existing. The sound thing is not to believe such claims before evidence is shown.
Draugh39 2 years ago
The most accurate evidence of God's existing is us. We are not from monkeys or any organism that evolved over millions of years. why?
(book of Genesis) We are created according to His image. Being His image we adopt His characteristic but not the absolute characteristic of Him.
Ex. we talk,get angry, love,etc... But even of being creator we adopt it. We created many things like cars,building,robots etc....
Do you think that those characteristics of man are accidentally learned?
webster0005 2 years ago
Evolution is not "accidental". It has a random part (genetic change) and a non-random part (natural selection). Thus the change in a species 8and this is well documanted) is not random but instead one that is not selected for destruction. Over time this leads to genetic change and eventually speciation. This has been observed in nature and in the lab and you can get the info online. check it out.
Draugh39 2 years ago
Just like as I said:The perfect evidence that God exist, is man.
Example:The CIRCUMCISION.If we are from species that evolved,do you think that those kind will learn to harm themselves to be circumcised?I think not! Even there is a country that they don't do that!. Why people have been circumcised and still doing it up to now? It is not an accident. It is a command of God (Genesis 17:9-13) to man.
You can't find animals that have been circumcised by themselves. It is exclusive for man only.
webster0005 2 years ago
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Draugh39 2 years ago
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Circumcision is a crime!
If you ever did that action against a grown man against his will you would be put in jail for "sexual assault" and "mutilation"! You would be doing a long stretch and have to pay a huge sum in compensation for mutilating that man.
How can you possibly think that it is a good thing to do that crime against an innocent baby?!
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. (Voltaire)
Draugh39 2 years ago
You can't find animals that have put members of their own species in gas chambers either!
Are you saying that the fact you can't find animals that commit genocide, sexual mutilation etc. against members of their own species is a sign that "God exist"? That evil acts is a sign o God+
If so, what does that make this God?
Draugh39 2 years ago
You cannot find it on the animals...it is Exclusive for human/people/man/us only!!!!!!
Its not evil..... and it is not a crime.... I never know that someone(example.doctor) have been put on jail after they circumcised a person or a baby.... I think that you just can't accept the fact that circumcision is from sexual mutilation... why many country do that....
I will ask you?
Are you Circumcised?
webster0005 2 years ago
It is illegal to circumcise a man without his consent! (obviously the same should be true for a baby). The fact that people in the USA do this to kids (and some kids get killed by that) is no reason to do it. And not a single medical association recommend this.
Female circumcision is illegal and male one should be it too (or you discriminate). Most males (~85%) in the world are not circumcised as it is a religious dogma and they live longer.
Draugh39 2 years ago
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Draugh39 2 years ago
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If you are wondering about circumcision, check up what the Medical Associations say. It is forbidden in the Nordic countries. Canada and Australia urge not to do it. Many courts have found it a crime etc.. There are no positive medical effects documented (despite biased research from religious people), it's a painful procedure and it causes damage and in rare cases death.
In my view anyone that does it is a child molester. (they are if they do it do girl babies, right?)
Draugh39 2 years ago
As I said, gassing people, drug abuse etc are also only seen amongst humans. So one crime (involuntary mutilation of the genitals) does make us "special" in the eye of "the Lord"?
Wow, what does that say about the character of this God?
Draugh39 2 years ago
Animals use drugs, what is your point.
gregrutz 2 years ago
Using a drug and drug abuse are different things, your point is?
Draugh39 2 years ago
About the character of God.... About those you just have said is evilness..... It is the act of humans rebellion to God...
webster0005 2 years ago
If "evil acts" reflects "human rebellion" against God, then "forced circumcision" also is an act of human rebellion against God, right?
To sexually mutilate a person against his/her will is an evil act, isn't it?
Or would you say that if a stranger grabs a child and starts cutting bits off that child's genitals, that this stranger is *not* doing something evil or illegal? That it should be seen as something good if a stranger rushes up to a mother and does this to her child?
Draugh39 2 years ago
Communication between members in a group is observed amongst other primates, wolves etc, they also show love, aggresion etc. so why do you think we are so special?
many responses to feelings are not learned they are genetic, like smiling. a blind child will still smile even though it has never seen one.
Draugh39 2 years ago
The fact that we are Great Apes proves we evolved from apes.
gregrutz 2 years ago
Thank you! Someone that has actually read a bit of science!
Draugh39 2 years ago