Obama's criticism of u.s. policy in Iraq up until that point is fair and accurate. Most people in Washington at that time agreed with his assessment. I'm not sure they needed to be reiterated at that particular hearing however, as the point was to gather information from Patreus... though getting it on record counts for something I guess. And to those that say he was attacking or undermining Patreus, that is completely false, he was clearly criticizing american policy.
How can this not be a criticism of Petraeus? The plan was designed, implemented, and managed by Petraeus. He told the General the surge was failing, which we now know to be totally false. The only reason that Bush was able to sign the Status of Forces Agreement in 2008 with Iraq was because of the absolute success of Petraeus' plan that little boy obama here is shitting on. Now, obama wants the guy that he, hillary, and biden all called a liar in one way or another, to save his ass. Go to hell!
kizzitt, you can crawl into zouritje's hole with him, you deserve each other.
It's amazing hearing Obama talk about the government's "limited resources" and criticizing GWB for saying "kicking a-s-s".
Typical democrat, rooting for the enemy. There's only one reason why Petraeus would work for the Boy King. For the good of the country. Obama wouldn't understand that. What kind of egomaniac writes TWO books about himself?
And then O exclaimed "Hmm, maybe i'll put you in charge of Afghanistan after i get elected to the Oval Office, since you did such a horrible job in Iraq"
jibberish, all I heard, for his many words he said but a few things. the truth is not that he wants our boys home. he wants the rest of Our military demilitarized. I couldn't vote for him, nor mcLame. this is a sad state of affairs.
Obama is the bets , at least he knows that jew re controlling the usa mccain is jsut a jew puppet Wars in middle east are jsut because of american jews to strengthen israel FUCK JEWS FUCK MCCAIN
tss , ure not smart at least , u vote mccain? a jew puppet , he doesnt know anything he get funded by all the rich jewish aemricans , who only care abou israel obama is not like that
Excellent, Obama is brilliant. He is pushing for the plan to end this war and he wants clear ideas. I do believe he can bring our boys home as heroes and warriors who desetve to be honored.
And what happens to everyone else if we get out of iraq? What will happen to us if we get out of iraq for that matter? We all want to end the war, but getting out as it is will only make things worse. I say McCain is the wise choice.
Petraeus is a good soldier, and that's what's wrong with his testimony. Admiral Fallon refused to be a good soldier and they got him retired. Obama used his time exactly right. There is no point asking Petraeus questions. There is no military solution. The only way we could win now is to come in in force and completely destroy the country, like we did in Falujah. It sounds like this is exactly what McCain wants to do, but hopefully he won't get a chance.
"And so I think that some of the frustration you hear from some of the questioners is that we have now set the bar so low ... is considered success, and it's not."
Mar 2008
"And, see, the problem I have is if the definition of success is so high, ... If, on the other hand, our criteria is a messy, sloppy status quo ... that seems to me an achievable goal"
I'm guessing, from your comments, that General Petraus (though complimented by the Senator) will not be our commander in Iraq in the Obama administration.
Keep in mind his statement was at the very end of the hearing. He didn't have much time. He made a statement, and made the most of his time. He wasn't the chair, and didn't have time to engage the general in a long Q and A. He did what he had to do in the time allotted to him.
After listening to what both BHO and HRC said to the General it is obvious BHO...is an IDIOT and unfit to even be a Senator..much less Comander and Chief...
This was posted on the full-length video to answer why Obama was using his time to create the statement for the record...
"Before this, that summary did not exist on the senate record in so short and simple a form. Now there is a place that can be pointed to and a Senator can say "I agree" or "I disagree" and so they will be forced to come out on either side of the issue. This is a powerful political tool, and Senator Obama is very good at wielding it"
This is the problem with Obama ...endless pontification..was there any need to restate the argument against the war in such detail that there was NO TIME TO ASK QUESTIONS AND DEMAND ANSWERS which was the actual purpose of the exercise.
I know and approve that he wants to change the world. I now want to know how he is going to do it!!!
would appreciate any actual details of his experience as a community organiser and his work as a civil rights lawyer? I need answers now!
his answer is simple. get the fuck out of iraq. it was an extremely stupid thing to do, for all the reasons he describes. the iraq war is clearly prepetuating anti-democratic, pro-islamic fundamentalist feeling in the middle east and europe. it provides an excuse for terror, a distraction for terror, a battlefield for terror. it is likely that iraqis will rally against foreign insurgent elements if there is no western soldiers to justify jihad. 1 billion people in the world are muslim.
they are suspicious of america and democracy, and they hate bush precisely because of his policy in iraq. you can justify removing the corrupt and despicable baathist regime on a moral basis, but in light of the wider world, the situation in the middle east, the dissillusioned muslim populations in europe etc it is clearly a war that has only enflamed the conflict between east and west, between the islamic and christian world. it encourages terror. this is what obama is talking about.
we know iraq and america, and the rest of the free world, are clearly worse off as a result of the iraq war. iraq is gripped by terror - its doctors, nurses, teachers and journalists are fleeing. every bomb creates more hatred and potential recruits for alquida. thousands of iraqis have died, and so have americans. and for what? nothing but a continual descent into violence that played out across the worlds media gives angry young muslims an excuse to become extremists.
Obama's criticism of u.s. policy in Iraq up until that point is fair and accurate. Most people in Washington at that time agreed with his assessment. I'm not sure they needed to be reiterated at that particular hearing however, as the point was to gather information from Patreus... though getting it on record counts for something I guess. And to those that say he was attacking or undermining Patreus, that is completely false, he was clearly criticizing american policy.
Texus009 1 year ago
How can this not be a criticism of Petraeus? The plan was designed, implemented, and managed by Petraeus. He told the General the surge was failing, which we now know to be totally false. The only reason that Bush was able to sign the Status of Forces Agreement in 2008 with Iraq was because of the absolute success of Petraeus' plan that little boy obama here is shitting on. Now, obama wants the guy that he, hillary, and biden all called a liar in one way or another, to save his ass. Go to hell!
jovidman69 1 year ago
kizzitt, you can crawl into zouritje's hole with him, you deserve each other.
It's amazing hearing Obama talk about the government's "limited resources" and criticizing GWB for saying "kicking a-s-s".
Typical democrat, rooting for the enemy. There's only one reason why Petraeus would work for the Boy King. For the good of the country. Obama wouldn't understand that. What kind of egomaniac writes TWO books about himself?
Hoosierhorsesense 1 year ago
And then O exclaimed "Hmm, maybe i'll put you in charge of Afghanistan after i get elected to the Oval Office, since you did such a horrible job in Iraq"
docholladay2112 1 year ago
& zouritje, Go crawl back into the hole from whence you came.
Qballfph 2 years ago
jibberish, all I heard, for his many words he said but a few things. the truth is not that he wants our boys home. he wants the rest of Our military demilitarized. I couldn't vote for him, nor mcLame. this is a sad state of affairs.
Qballfph 2 years ago
general potraoeus said there is no militairy solution in irasso he supprots obama
zouritje 3 years ago
Obama is the bets , at least he knows that jew re controlling the usa mccain is jsut a jew puppet Wars in middle east are jsut because of american jews to strengthen israel FUCK JEWS FUCK MCCAIN
zouritje 3 years ago
i love how barack thinks he knows what he talking about
saleens7even 3 years ago
If you are going to vote smart, you will vote McCain..
Bama006 3 years ago
tss , ure not smart at least , u vote mccain? a jew puppet , he doesnt know anything he get funded by all the rich jewish aemricans , who only care abou israel obama is not like that
zouritje 3 years ago
A lying coon is what he is!
kizzitt 3 years ago
Excellent, Obama is brilliant. He is pushing for the plan to end this war and he wants clear ideas. I do believe he can bring our boys home as heroes and warriors who desetve to be honored.
Vote smart, vote Obama
dnu421 3 years ago
And what happens to everyone else if we get out of iraq? What will happen to us if we get out of iraq for that matter? We all want to end the war, but getting out as it is will only make things worse. I say McCain is the wise choice.
simpsonman956 3 years ago
To: kevinpaulharper >
Good job General Petraeus for staying calm.
GREAT JOB, Obama for sitting on you A-S-S and looking like a fool
frontdoor1208 3 years ago
Petraeus is a good soldier, and that's what's wrong with his testimony. Admiral Fallon refused to be a good soldier and they got him retired. Obama used his time exactly right. There is no point asking Petraeus questions. There is no military solution. The only way we could win now is to come in in force and completely destroy the country, like we did in Falujah. It sounds like this is exactly what McCain wants to do, but hopefully he won't get a chance.
pdlane 3 years ago
Obama contradicts himself.
Sept 2007
"And so I think that some of the frustration you hear from some of the questioners is that we have now set the bar so low ... is considered success, and it's not."
Mar 2008
"And, see, the problem I have is if the definition of success is so high, ... If, on the other hand, our criteria is a messy, sloppy status quo ... that seems to me an achievable goal"
board405t 3 years ago
board405 you took it out of context.
dnu421 3 years ago
I'm guessing, from your comments, that General Petraus (though complimented by the Senator) will not be our commander in Iraq in the Obama administration.
Keep in mind his statement was at the very end of the hearing. He didn't have much time. He made a statement, and made the most of his time. He wasn't the chair, and didn't have time to engage the general in a long Q and A. He did what he had to do in the time allotted to him.
langohio 3 years ago
After listening to what both BHO and HRC said to the General it is obvious BHO...is an IDIOT and unfit to even be a Senator..much less Comander and Chief...
GodSaveOurNation 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Latest reports from Iraq show that Al Qaida is getting its A-S-S kicked!
y2knoproblem 4 years ago
This was posted on the full-length video to answer why Obama was using his time to create the statement for the record...
"Before this, that summary did not exist on the senate record in so short and simple a form. Now there is a place that can be pointed to and a Senator can say "I agree" or "I disagree" and so they will be forced to come out on either side of the issue. This is a powerful political tool, and Senator Obama is very good at wielding it"
bluestems 4 years ago
Good Job Obama
kevinpaulharper 4 years ago
This is the problem with Obama ...endless pontification..was there any need to restate the argument against the war in such detail that there was NO TIME TO ASK QUESTIONS AND DEMAND ANSWERS which was the actual purpose of the exercise.
I know and approve that he wants to change the world. I now want to know how he is going to do it!!!
would appreciate any actual details of his experience as a community organiser and his work as a civil rights lawyer? I need answers now!
18anapple2 4 years ago
his answer is simple. get the fuck out of iraq. it was an extremely stupid thing to do, for all the reasons he describes. the iraq war is clearly prepetuating anti-democratic, pro-islamic fundamentalist feeling in the middle east and europe. it provides an excuse for terror, a distraction for terror, a battlefield for terror. it is likely that iraqis will rally against foreign insurgent elements if there is no western soldiers to justify jihad. 1 billion people in the world are muslim.
fuglyno1 4 years ago
they are suspicious of america and democracy, and they hate bush precisely because of his policy in iraq. you can justify removing the corrupt and despicable baathist regime on a moral basis, but in light of the wider world, the situation in the middle east, the dissillusioned muslim populations in europe etc it is clearly a war that has only enflamed the conflict between east and west, between the islamic and christian world. it encourages terror. this is what obama is talking about.
fuglyno1 4 years ago
we know iraq and america, and the rest of the free world, are clearly worse off as a result of the iraq war. iraq is gripped by terror - its doctors, nurses, teachers and journalists are fleeing. every bomb creates more hatred and potential recruits for alquida. thousands of iraqis have died, and so have americans. and for what? nothing but a continual descent into violence that played out across the worlds media gives angry young muslims an excuse to become extremists.
fuglyno1 4 years ago
Barrack, stop beating around the bush and get to the POINT!!!!
mulonzee877 4 years ago
Obama is afraid to tell him he wants all out of Iraq by next year. What a loser. He should face the disussion.
Jerryshowsthemoney 4 years ago
Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IcyKitty 4 years ago