The reason why native americans were scalping those who were about to die because they believed that human spirit leave the body through the head ..and they had to release that spirit! Invaders of their land did not know this believe and interpreted this as cruelty..but that was wrong!
Well by this time the native americans have been trading for awhile so they would have metal knives. You'll be surprised how easy these warriors were at taking your scalp. Especalliy if they've been doing it for a while. A good strong tug to cut of the nerve and hair folicles. Then with one swift and strong motion you can take a persons scalp. It was nothing to them back then.
Hey...how many people out there know that scalping was actually started by the British ..yes....it was...bounties on how many "red skins' they killed......history books rarely make mention of that.....the only reason i know this after years thinking it was the other way round..is because of my Native boyfriend....I started doing some research and it is true....Canada was also the 1st country that started Apartheid as we know it today...way back when...South Africa then followed..sad but true
Wow, you obviously have no idea what you're talking about. Daniel Day Lewis makes Crowe look like a high school thespian my friend. Get your shirt straight. Obviously I understand that it's an opinion, but somehow, you're still wrong.
@masterhalco would you like them to lose? so that you can sit on your fat ass eat chips and watch tv instead of living free outside in the wild, or learn the old ways?
I am not fat. Quite fit actually. I hate chips, but I do enjoy the occasional TV show.
What need do I have for "the old ways?" I enjoy my vaccines, antibiotics, space exploration, molecular gastronomy, sanitation, internet, democracy, liberty, air conditioning, clothing, airplanes, cinema, literature, telecommunications, museums, bridges, and chemotherapy.
I take it you enjoy them too, otherwise you wouldn't be on the computer hypocritically ranting about the "old ways."
@masterhalco if you dont respect the old ways.. then you and all other ignorant white men will become the same: weaker, smaller, uglier, more exposed to diseases, soon greedy companies will destroy all the forests, and not enough oxygen produced from the trees, and we will literally suffocate ourselfs. people like you have also lost all spiritual value, no guidance from the spirit world means less chance of survival or success in the natural world. Fuck that..
@masterhalco LOL. humans get sick from touching a fucking mosquito these days. i dont see how we r going to manage to eradicate any diseases at all, i have to wait for atleast 6 months to let the doctor even check what my disgestion problems are. and now they have checked they can't figre out, i have to wait a several months more to check again, great medical advances, suuure. if you look back at medieval ages too you can find several proofs of how much stronger and durable we were back then.
@cuzgandalfgothigh99 Smallpox has been eradicated. That is a fact. Try googling it. Humans have always gotten sick from mosquito bites: Malaria, EEE, etc. have killed throughout history.
Sorry for your digestive problems. Here I don't have to wait six months to see a doctor. I can go today.Yay America!
In the middle ages the average life expectancy was 30. The world was ravaged by famine, plague, and pestilence. Now it's over 65. We are taller, our brains are bigger, we are better nourished.
@masterhalco example: even an englishman in the middle-ages could pull a massive longbow in just 1 sec. and a horribly long lifespan is no good. medium lifespan like 50 or 30 is good, you dont have to recieve pains for ages, you live short and good, naturally. we are not elves, we are still primates, and we can't live forever. ur probably not getting my point but i dont care this conversation is getting boring anyways.
@cuzgandalfgothigh99 They didn't live "good." Their lives were full of pestilence, plague, famine, warfare, slavery, oppression, ignorance, myopia, racism, illiteracy, and superstition.
I'll take modern medicine, technology, science, art, knowledge, equality, democracy, abundance, literature, humanism, liberty, and secularism.
If you believe in living the old ways (however you define them) get away from the computer. Go into the wild. Quit demanding of others, that which you won't do yourself.
@masterhalco Wow, what kind of sheltered life do you live? most of what you listed is an idea or ideology rather than an actual present entity. As for the generalization of the Native American peoples, large parts of what you listed only became prevalent after the arrival of Europeans.
@cowboyfromkettins Wow, you missed the rest of the conversation. Congratulations for being lazy.
I was merely pointing out that the "old ways" (native american and otherwise) are full of horrors. The past ought not be romanticised. The present ought not be taken for granted. I was pointing out that the "old ways" (whatever cuzgandalfgothigh99 thinks they are) are no better than our current ways.
@masterhalco I think the higher control over ones destiny back then is appealing. lots of things we can learn from native cultures as we move forward into a corporate ruled industrial future.
@masterhalco Good on you mate. Haters gonna hate. And people too lazy to read the entire debate will just reveal their ignorance in their retaliatory comments.
And furthermore, only a well trained Englishman in the middle ages could pull a longbow. He sure as hell couldn't run a four minute mile like Sir Roger Bannister.
@cuzgandalfgothigh99 Also, trees don't "produce" oxygen. Oxygen is created in fusion reactions in stars. Trees (and all flora for that matter) merely take the carbon atoms out of the CO2 molecule and expel O2 molecules during photosythesis.
You, not I, have a very poor understanding of the natural and physical world.
@cuzgandalfgothigh99 You "spirit world" gaia-fags have been screaming this cry since the 19th century. Hasn't happened yet. In fact the air in this country is cleaner than it's been since the 1970's thanks to responsible legislation and corporate research and development and concerned consumers.
Why are you using a computer and visiting doctors and shopping at grocery stores while screaming at Americans for doing the same? Are you a hypocrite?
@masterhalco 30 % of the time im on interwebs trying to tell people the truth, obviously you wont face the fact that we were stupid enough to kill the wisest most durable people that ever lived. (btw whats a hypocrite? every douchebag calls me that for some reason)
@cuzgandalfgothigh99 My native American friends (and I have MANY) would take object to you calling them "wise and durable." That perpetuates the racist "noble savage" sons-of-nature, paint-with-the-color-of-the-winds stereotype they hate. Fact is they lived short, violent, human lives. NA prior to colonization wasn't some peaceful, idyllic, innocent utopia. Disease and warfare existed here the moment it was settled by Native Americans.
Again, quit using the tools of technology you despise.
@masterhalco funny how white people when they first arrived called them noble and actually tried to emulate how they lived.No one is saying that NA's were perfect but they lived much more wholesome fufilling loves then we do now.Modern society is nothing but greed.The reason they had a better society is because they were matriarchal,matriarchal > patriarchal.That is why they were less violent,gentler,more devoted to each other.
@Goatoftheforest i thought scalps take time to be took off you really need a sharp knife to do that. what the hell that guy just took off a scalp of an officer with one swing?! magic knife?! holly wood crap???!! super human??!
@carlnardo Money - the colonial authorities offered money for the scalps of their enemies and their respective allies. Simple as that. Prestige played a minor role - you cannot afford guns and rum with that.
The reason why native americans were scalping those who were about to die because they believed that human spirit leave the body through the head ..and they had to release that spirit! Invaders of their land did not know this believe and interpreted this as cruelty..but that was wrong!
Ksanthipa 4 days ago
press 8 over and over.
wtg2989 3 months ago
Well by this time the native americans have been trading for awhile so they would have metal knives. You'll be surprised how easy these warriors were at taking your scalp. Especalliy if they've been doing it for a while. A good strong tug to cut of the nerve and hair folicles. Then with one swift and strong motion you can take a persons scalp. It was nothing to them back then.
Deathnotepuppetgod 3 months ago
quick way to shave your hair
TheYynmr 3 months ago
@TheYynmr .... more than your hair came off
umidontno040394 3 weeks ago
OMG wtf?
Zoki9555 3 months ago
"Please, I beg you, anything but my toupée! ....BASTARD DUN RUN'D OFT WIT IT" D:
xTHExFALLx 3 months ago
LOLOLOLOL
leadereric 3 months ago
scalp that fucker
scottdog87 4 months ago
Hey...how many people out there know that scalping was actually started by the British ..yes....it was...bounties on how many "red skins' they killed......history books rarely make mention of that.....the only reason i know this after years thinking it was the other way round..is because of my Native boyfriend....I started doing some research and it is true....Canada was also the 1st country that started Apartheid as we know it today...way back when...South Africa then followed..sad but true
sjbroccoli100 4 months ago
@sjbroccoli100 yep apartheid on natives, métis and french-canadian... and anything that wasn't wasp.
laughingsnake 3 months ago
@008devlin
Wow, you obviously have no idea what you're talking about. Daniel Day Lewis makes Crowe look like a high school thespian my friend. Get your shirt straight. Obviously I understand that it's an opinion, but somehow, you're still wrong.
FourthOsprey 4 months ago
i think that was when the french and british fought for ohio river valley
mrloslimones 5 months ago
he removed the scalp before he cut it
Samwd1 5 months ago
What a brutal scene. Who gives a crap about how sharp the knife has to be or how much time it takes to scalp a guy. The scene is BRUTAL.
6frozenghost1 6 months ago
I think it's moar l;ike he's saying
YES, i got a kill, better scalp im real fast so i can quick-scalp that other dude too
*QUICK-SCALP¨*
ColonelGeorgeACuster 6 months ago
you know nothing of native americans, and you're telling me to educate myself? go fuck yourself. you can argue with someone who bothers to do this.
cuzgandalfgothigh99 7 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
you're not proving anything.
cuzgandalfgothigh99 7 months ago
The need to sell those knifes on infomercials.
94jg 7 months ago
Gave him nice little haircut...indeed
YouMaddYepYouMadd 7 months ago
In my culture... Warriors would scalp their victims for trophies and The one with the most trophies earned the most respect...
MrApacheSniper 7 months ago
Let the invaders Suffer.
cuzgandalfgothigh99 8 months ago
@cuzgandalfgothigh99
Let the natives lose in the end.
masterhalco 7 months ago
@masterhalco would you like them to lose? so that you can sit on your fat ass eat chips and watch tv instead of living free outside in the wild, or learn the old ways?
cuzgandalfgothigh99 7 months ago
@cuzgandalfgothigh99
I am not fat. Quite fit actually. I hate chips, but I do enjoy the occasional TV show.
What need do I have for "the old ways?" I enjoy my vaccines, antibiotics, space exploration, molecular gastronomy, sanitation, internet, democracy, liberty, air conditioning, clothing, airplanes, cinema, literature, telecommunications, museums, bridges, and chemotherapy.
I take it you enjoy them too, otherwise you wouldn't be on the computer hypocritically ranting about the "old ways."
masterhalco 7 months ago
@masterhalco if you dont respect the old ways.. then you and all other ignorant white men will become the same: weaker, smaller, uglier, more exposed to diseases, soon greedy companies will destroy all the forests, and not enough oxygen produced from the trees, and we will literally suffocate ourselfs. people like you have also lost all spiritual value, no guidance from the spirit world means less chance of survival or success in the natural world. Fuck that..
cuzgandalfgothigh99 7 months ago
@cuzgandalfgothigh99 First of all you can't call me white or ignorant. You have no proof of either claim.
Second, homo sapiens are growing taller, stronger, and more intelligent as we evolve. Fossil records, archeology, and genetics indicate that.
We have eradicated two of the deadliest diseases that have befallen mankind (smallpox, polio) and are on our way to eradicating several more.
Finally, get off your computer, quit taking medicine, and avoid the grocery store. You are a hypocrite.
masterhalco 7 months ago
@masterhalco LOL. humans get sick from touching a fucking mosquito these days. i dont see how we r going to manage to eradicate any diseases at all, i have to wait for atleast 6 months to let the doctor even check what my disgestion problems are. and now they have checked they can't figre out, i have to wait a several months more to check again, great medical advances, suuure. if you look back at medieval ages too you can find several proofs of how much stronger and durable we were back then.
cuzgandalfgothigh99 7 months ago
@cuzgandalfgothigh99 Smallpox has been eradicated. That is a fact. Try googling it. Humans have always gotten sick from mosquito bites: Malaria, EEE, etc. have killed throughout history.
Sorry for your digestive problems. Here I don't have to wait six months to see a doctor. I can go today.Yay America!
In the middle ages the average life expectancy was 30. The world was ravaged by famine, plague, and pestilence. Now it's over 65. We are taller, our brains are bigger, we are better nourished.
masterhalco 7 months ago
@masterhalco example: even an englishman in the middle-ages could pull a massive longbow in just 1 sec. and a horribly long lifespan is no good. medium lifespan like 50 or 30 is good, you dont have to recieve pains for ages, you live short and good, naturally. we are not elves, we are still primates, and we can't live forever. ur probably not getting my point but i dont care this conversation is getting boring anyways.
cuzgandalfgothigh99 7 months ago
@cuzgandalfgothigh99 They didn't live "good." Their lives were full of pestilence, plague, famine, warfare, slavery, oppression, ignorance, myopia, racism, illiteracy, and superstition.
I'll take modern medicine, technology, science, art, knowledge, equality, democracy, abundance, literature, humanism, liberty, and secularism.
If you believe in living the old ways (however you define them) get away from the computer. Go into the wild. Quit demanding of others, that which you won't do yourself.
masterhalco 7 months ago
@masterhalco stereo type book reading bigot,fuck you.You know nothing of us just your ignorrance so limited...
bluethunder316 7 months ago
@masterhalco Wow, what kind of sheltered life do you live? most of what you listed is an idea or ideology rather than an actual present entity. As for the generalization of the Native American peoples, large parts of what you listed only became prevalent after the arrival of Europeans.
cowboyfromkettins 6 months ago
@cowboyfromkettins Wow, you missed the rest of the conversation. Congratulations for being lazy.
I was merely pointing out that the "old ways" (native american and otherwise) are full of horrors. The past ought not be romanticised. The present ought not be taken for granted. I was pointing out that the "old ways" (whatever cuzgandalfgothigh99 thinks they are) are no better than our current ways.
masterhalco 6 months ago
@masterhalco I think the higher control over ones destiny back then is appealing. lots of things we can learn from native cultures as we move forward into a corporate ruled industrial future.
cowboyfromkettins 6 months ago
@masterhalco Good on you mate. Haters gonna hate. And people too lazy to read the entire debate will just reveal their ignorance in their retaliatory comments.
And ignore that cuzgandalf dude. He's a moron.
Boogung 4 months ago
@cuzgandalfgothigh99
Google: hypocrite
Is educating yourself so hard?
And furthermore, only a well trained Englishman in the middle ages could pull a longbow. He sure as hell couldn't run a four minute mile like Sir Roger Bannister.
masterhalco 7 months ago
@cuzgandalfgothigh99 Also, trees don't "produce" oxygen. Oxygen is created in fusion reactions in stars. Trees (and all flora for that matter) merely take the carbon atoms out of the CO2 molecule and expel O2 molecules during photosythesis.
You, not I, have a very poor understanding of the natural and physical world.
masterhalco 7 months ago
@masterhalco im glad i dont live in america. cause in a few years you will be waking up to toxic air, have fun in your filthy neighboorhood then.
cuzgandalfgothigh99 7 months ago
@cuzgandalfgothigh99 You "spirit world" gaia-fags have been screaming this cry since the 19th century. Hasn't happened yet. In fact the air in this country is cleaner than it's been since the 1970's thanks to responsible legislation and corporate research and development and concerned consumers.
Why are you using a computer and visiting doctors and shopping at grocery stores while screaming at Americans for doing the same? Are you a hypocrite?
masterhalco 7 months ago
@masterhalco 30 % of the time im on interwebs trying to tell people the truth, obviously you wont face the fact that we were stupid enough to kill the wisest most durable people that ever lived. (btw whats a hypocrite? every douchebag calls me that for some reason)
cuzgandalfgothigh99 7 months ago
@cuzgandalfgothigh99 My native American friends (and I have MANY) would take object to you calling them "wise and durable." That perpetuates the racist "noble savage" sons-of-nature, paint-with-the-color-of-the-winds stereotype they hate. Fact is they lived short, violent, human lives. NA prior to colonization wasn't some peaceful, idyllic, innocent utopia. Disease and warfare existed here the moment it was settled by Native Americans.
Again, quit using the tools of technology you despise.
masterhalco 7 months ago
@masterhalco funny how white people when they first arrived called them noble and actually tried to emulate how they lived.No one is saying that NA's were perfect but they lived much more wholesome fufilling loves then we do now.Modern society is nothing but greed.The reason they had a better society is because they were matriarchal,matriarchal > patriarchal.That is why they were less violent,gentler,more devoted to each other.
Luckychucky78 3 months ago
XD!! my stupid fag dad got scalped swiped clean!
otakuleatherneck83 8 months ago
Bite his penis
ChainsawCock 11 months ago
great movie and great scene, but obviously scalps don't come off that easily.
Goatoftheforest 1 year ago 9
@Goatoftheforest i thought scalps take time to be took off you really need a sharp knife to do that. what the hell that guy just took off a scalp of an officer with one swing?! magic knife?! holly wood crap???!! super human??!
kenken8765 11 months ago 6
@Goatoftheforest spose it depends how sharp your knife is. wasnt exactly his whole scalp though eh, half ass huron :P
cowboyfromkettins 6 months ago
@Goatoftheforest It was them British and European wig that came off. The guy was bald and the warrior thought it was a scalp. LOL
arodspecialist 6 months ago
It isn't quite as graphic as the Inglourious Basterds scalping. But it doesn't need to be! What a great movie!
ArchiPepper 1 year ago
could some1 explain to me wat was the point of scalping other than proof of a kill
carlnardo 1 year ago
@carlnardo It was a warrior thing.
Maxables 1 year ago
@Maxables i c
carlnardo 1 year ago
@carlnardo Money - the colonial authorities offered money for the scalps of their enemies and their respective allies. Simple as that. Prestige played a minor role - you cannot afford guns and rum with that.
oldenough13 8 months ago
He was not an officer
Hardrada88 1 year ago