NAME BLOTTED OUT OF THE BOOK OF LIFE IF WE DO NOT OVERCOME (this is by the Power of God of Course but we must be a part of it because WE ARE) John 3:16 WHOSOEVER WILL Then Means NOTHING in ETERNAL SECURITY & ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED! Eternal Security Stinks from the Pits of Hell!
@Strefanasha No, salvation by grace speaks of relationship and spiritual union. Our spirits are born of the Spirit in full spiritual union with God in Christ. Nothing but holiness comes out of the Spirit of God and all works of the Spirit in and through us are perfect and holy. Our spirits born of the Spirit are holy. We are holy, perfect, blameless in Christ in this relationship of state of being as a new creation. The spirit born of God never sins. Romans 7. We are holy in Christ.
@Strefanasha Hebrews 6:4 speaks of those who have attempted to secure salvation by their own wills and intellects and are not saved. One can experience being enlightened by the Spirit, taste the Heavenly gift and thus partake of the Spirit - but not be saved at all. For example, if you have a devil cast out of you - all these things have happened. Happened in Jesus' ministry. But, because the house was empty though swept - the devils came back 7 times more. Physical healing, same principle.
Whats wrong with alter called salvation? What does that even mean? I went down to an alter and prayed when the preacher gave an alter call and i was saved and praise God I have been preaching His word. I don't get it. I just saw about 2 months ago come in the church and run to the alter and cry at the alter for about 45 minutes and gave his heart to Jesus. He has been clean every since. Praise the name of Jesus. I don't get the title.
@summergod27 yeah the way i understand it. Is that this is referring to leadership saying that one is saved through an alter call. Only God saves, and man has no say in this spiritual reformation. Who am i or any one else to say one is saved. We don't know but we can speculate through their life style and fruit. God bless hope this helps
through videos about satanism in hip-hop/movies/art/politics, the new world order policys.... and the gospels of god I have found back to god and jesus christ and feel prety good about it.
I am a sinner yes, not hiding any of it, but atleast I know what is the truth and know what song to play in the right mood.
Deep Thinker: These preachers are not haters of those that preach a false gospel. They are lovers of people like yourself who are walking in deception. The 'gospel' that Osteen and others preach is all man-centered. There is no interest at all in the glory of God. NONE! If you are truly saved and care most about God's glory above all things then you will be able to discern the true from the false. When this happens you too will point out those who are deceiving God's people.
Listen I am so sad that alot of these preachers are basically "haters" seem to be jealous of people who have a different and more successful ministry than them. Listen each and EVERY SINGLE episode Joel Osteen brings up the gospel and never ends the episode without giving the chance for someone to except Jesus as their Lord and Savior. I am NOT in agreement with P.Washer at all. If he has something to preach just preach its not his job to be pointing fingers at someone else. BOOO!!!
We all fall down in the mud,just don`t lay there and wallow around in it.Get up and clean yourself off. REPENT and go on. Jesus is coming back for a HOLY CHURCH.
Any church made on man is false! I know the Catholic church is built on St. Peter,a man.
The Baptist church is built on Jesus Christ.He started the Baptist church because we practice and carry out His Great Commission according to Matt.28:19.
I do not argue against grace, I thank God for grace. What I am saying is that there are many scriptures that say emphatically that you CAN backslide. Just because someone accepts Jesus does not mean that they can live however they want to.
@Rhsam We can backslide, go through valleys, and stumble. But Salvation cannot be lost once TRUE regeneration takes place. God canot lose His sheep, and God promises that His work shall be finished, Phil 1:6. I actually think we agree here, But I just felt like throwing that out there. Thanks brother!
@ItsNowWarfare What is true regeneration or salvation. There is no such doctrine or scripture in the bible. The issue is not the lose of sheep it is the sheeps choice to leave the safety of the fold. The doctrine of iresistable grace is false, as is the one eternal salvation. Apostasy is the rejection of revealed truth by a former Believer. Otherwise it is not apostasy. There is a sin unto death and nothing changes the axiom " The wagtes Of sin is death" AQll souls are mine the soulm that
@ItsNowWarfare sinneth (Old english) which denotes one upon whom sin has a habitual control and hold. that sinneth shall/must/will/and does- die. But the grace/gift of God is Eternal LIFE Through JESUS CHRIST. Grace is not for forgiveness that is what the death of the cross bought us. Grace and Truth deliver from sin and sinning. Shall we sin thsat Grace may abound. GOD Forbids this madness! Who was it that said Go and Sin no more?? JESUS said it!
@PastorJS1 So, can we claim a doctrine of perfectionism though? Though it was commanded to sin no more, He who says he hasn't sinned makes himself a liar (1 John 1:10). Christ atones for our sins, I agree we should be dead to them. Key word, we should not be Bound by sin. Gal 2:20, Rom 6:6, It's very clear that we must crucify our flesh. Though it's one thing to strive for perfection, it's another to claim it. "Denotes on the habitual", One who is bound. To live IN sin is to disgrace (Jude 1:4)
@ItsNowWarfare No it say He who say he has no sin(Nature). Speaking to be born in total depravity. Jesus came to save from sin as was toild Joseph by the angel. Not save in sin. Where do u get this doctirne of no choice . Chjoose u this day whom ye shall serve. I put be fore you life and death. what is belief but a choice. True we can not save ourselves but u can obey man or GOD, or the flesh or the Spirit. who gives a command that is unkeepable? That is the devil LIE.. See Adam and EVE...
@PastorJS1 If Gods sheep can leave than its evidence He never had them... 1 John 2:19. It also denies Gods sovreignty. After all, If He can't even finish His promised work of salvation, then He isn't all powerful. (Phil 1:6). Salvation is Gods gift to men. Did God save you, or did you save you? Was He worthy of you, or did He redeem you for His glory? Decisional regeneration creates 2 fold sons of hell. To say that we can choose Him shows that its not His gift, it makes it our gift to Him.
@ItsNowWarfare Then why do u sin??? is GOD the Author of Sin. Then why does He condemn what he allows? Shall I sin that grace may abound.. GOD forbid such madness.. How shall he that is dead live anylonger in that which he has died to. Were u not buried with Christ and then risen unto Life. Christ rose so we could yet sin. when the wages of sin have not and do not change. It is yet death. How shall u live any longer therein.. Rd Clarks commentary, with scripture.. Rmns 5th -the 6th chps..
@PastorJS1 God created all things, so was there something wrong with Gods creation that allowed it to sin? God created a creation that was naturally fallen? Here, listen. Anyone who has recieved Salvation is perfect in Spirit, God calls us righteous, but it's only becase we have been atoned for. Our flesh is still sinful, but God accounted to us Christ's merit. The lord our righteousness, we can do no righteous act. Only Him who is in us. Though I do see what your saying. God Bless.
@PastorJS1 Where do you get a doctrine of free will? Like I said, man can choose no good. We are wicked. God had to predestine or nobody would be saved. We would slam the door shut on God because we would naturally hate that which is good. He is the final authority. We serve God because He has allowed us too. We wouldn't naturally serve Him by any means. Free will is mans view, altogether it seems like humanism. I agree, Jesus saved us from sin, not in it. God washes us so we no longer abide.
There are no "altars" in the New Covenant! Jesus sacrifice on the cross was the last altar. Christians MUST stop using Old Covenant practices in the dispensation of grace.
Jesus was crucified on a "stake" (tree, not cross)) with both of his hands place straight above his head and fastened there by long heavy spikes. The symbol of the cross is the symbol of Baal (many other names are used), is occult, and has nothing to do with Jesus Christ, Christianity, or the Bible. The most prominent example of this symbol (cross) in the world today is the one that surrounds the obelisk in St. Peter's square at the Vatican.
The only way you're saved is through baptism. Yes "water baptism" the only baptism there is.. From the word "baptismo" which means to be immersed in water. Read Acts 2:38, Read Mark 16:16, and even Jesus' last command Matthew 28:18-20.
@freizen2006 You poor thing. lol - I'll give you this, at least your looking to the right person and seem to be trying. That passage says baptised in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Not baptising them in the water. He did mean for us to be baptised in water but the water doesn't save you, it is a symbol of being reborn through the saving grace of Christ Jesus. Being baptised is an act to show you have chosen Christ Jesus, and to claim Him as your saviour in front of men. God Bless.
@TheKenny4292 Amen brother. I don't think God had us go without Calvinistic knowledge for 1500 years. Arminianism has its faults also. In light of 'ALL SCRIPTURE" both teach some wrong things. I do agree with some parts to both sides. I will be a Wordist.
I'm a Biblical Wordist - not a calvinist nor arminiest. God has called all not wishing that ANY should perish. God elects those who have true repentance. There will be change in one's life if they are truly saved. God's grace is more than sufficient to help one overcome the sin in their life. We cannot have a form of godliness but then deny the power thereof that can change us.
@thesacredcowtipper So I guess God is sitting on his hands waiting for us to choose him so that we don't perish? I don't see anywhere in Scripture where God is so passive. In Peter 3:9, Peter was writing to the Church! Not everyone in the world! God is not wishing, wanting, or willing (depending on which translation you use) that any of his Church should perish! You have to look at who the text was written to; it was written to Christians.
@prettylola1 Read Mark 16:15 -20. No God is confirming His word when His church is faithful and preaches the gospel (the death, burial and resurrection) of Jesus by which no man will be saved. Peter did write tot the chruch but in context he also was talking about how things would get "AS IN THE DAYS OF NOAH" and was talking about sinners. Read the whole books. (cont)
@prettylola1 Aren't you also contradicting the whole hell message Rob is teaching if youthink the church, the bride of Christ can perish but the sinners won't? Aren't you nullifying your own argument?
You are right in the one hermeneutic as far as knowing who thebook is written to but you still have to read what is written in CONTEXT and who that person is talking about. Peter and Jude tlak about God's wrath being poured out on the ungodly.
@thesacredcowtipper Even though I am a Calvinist, I do believe in preaching the Gospel to all people, because it is commanded for us to do so (as you pointed out in Mark 16:15-20). My point was in your use of Peter 3:9, you failed to mention the word that qualifies who Peter was talking to, and who the passage was intended for: God's elect! Peter says, "God is patient with YOU, not willing that any should parish." Interesting how Peter used YOU instead of everyone, all, etc. (cont)
@prettylola1 Are you a hyper calvinist--beleive that God predestined people to live eternally in Hell? I see elect and choice in the scriptures. I dont' think the arminiest nor the calvinist fully understands this. I am not a Rob Bell that would say their are paradoxes in the bible. Our understanding isn't what it should. (cont)
@thesacredcowtipper I think the problem with hyper calvinism is that it doesn't realize that 'THERE IS NO TIME" with God. I think this concept explains the whole argument about elect, sovereignty adn predestination. I don't believe God waited 1,500 years to finally bring out the doctrine of calvinism either. Can Calvinism explain "the apostasy"? It can't, along with many other verses. I thank God for you calvinists who hit the streets. You guys are pretty faithful.
@thesacredcowtipper (cont) It's because the YOU is God's elect: the Church. We know that God's will is never thwarted (Job 42:2). And if his will is that none of his elect (the Church) should perish like Peter claims, then it makes perfect sense. But if God's will is that every human being should be saved, then we have to say that Scripture is wrong and God is limited in his sovereignty.
@prettylola1 Who is God's elect? The church. Who has prepared themselves a bride without spot or blemish through the power fo the holy spirit? How many have come adn then later disannulled the covenant they made with Christ? Many. This is apostasy. You avhe to fall forward before you can fall away. There are some things we don't understand. What about the man paul delivered to Satan for the destruction of the flesh so that (his soul) might be saved on the day of judgment? (cont)
@prettylola1 Then we have revelation when Jesus talked with the churches and told them to get right and endure unto the end. Was Philadelphia the only true elect church? That's not what Jesus imposed. Anyhow, I think Calvinism has some major problems. There are truths within parts of TULIP but I can bring out passage after passage that seems to contradict a lot of parts of it. Let's win souls brother adn nto argue over this.
@thesacredcowtipper I agree, let's preach the Gospel and let God be glorified in making his elect's call effectual. The only problem is that the Arminianism vs. Calvinism argument centers around the Gospel message. So we have a difficult time agreeing with one another which message is closer to biblical truth. Some of my closest friends are Arminian, and we do ministry together. All I know is that God says that he will never forsake us, and nothing can take us out of his hand. Obviously (cont)
@prettylola1 Totally agree that God enver forsakes us but we forsake Him just like the prodigal did in the one parable. The Father desired him to come home and was quick to forgive him and throw a party but if the son didn't come home, I am left to beleive he would have stayed in the pigpen and died in his sins. Galatians 5 says people in habitual sin will have their part in hell. Good talking to you bro. I defintiely do not have a greasy grace arminiest view. We can leave him though.
@thesacredcowtipper I love the prodigal son passage, but I think that the father would have eventually went after the son (just as Peter said that, "God is patient with you"). Remember that the son came to his senses in that passage. When we come to our senses as believers the Holy Spirit is regenerating our hearts! So in a sense the "father" did pursue his son (if we read the parable as God being the "father"), because without the Holy Spirit working in the heart of the son, he would have never
@prettylola1 It's an interesting story because we see that the son had to suffer loss before he would even come to his senses. Was this a form of God's chastisement to draw His son back? Could be.
@thesacredcowtipper came back to the father. What about the picture that Jesus paints for us in the story of the Good Shepard? The Shepard leaves the 99 to PURSUE the 1 sheep that was lost. Sure, we Christians can get caught up in sin, but it seems as though you may be asserting that we can lose our salvation. Am I correct in saying that? True, God is without time but he also appoints the number of our days! I enjoy talking to you man. Keep proclaiming Christ!
@prettylola1 Too bad it is almost impossible to find a shepherd like Jesus anymore. They let the one go and try to hold onto the 99. I'm not an emergent so I won't beat aroudn the bush - Yes, I beleive someone can lose their salvation. Adam was perfect and sinless yet he chose to disobey God and walk away from God, inherited the sin nature and so on. (cont)
@thesacredcowtipper Problem is that Adam was not in a state of grace, he was in a state of perfection. A person cannot fall from grace, otherwise that wouldn't be grace. Do you understand what grace is?
Yes grace is God's unmerited favor. There are many problems with P in tulip though even if we take out the Adam scenario since you gave a pretty good reason as to that not being a good srguement. One good example is in revelation where Jesus said: Rev 2:7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God. there are other examples like this
@thesacredcowtipper There are different rewards in heaven for different people. For example, the temple layout,being a type of Heaven was seperated into different courts in which some could enter and some not. Now what I am saying is not a fool proof arguement to what you say but, could it not be so that Jesus speaks of some receiving more because of their faith? Think about your own definition of grace-UNMERITED FAVOR. Keys-it is not merited, it is a gift. Does God take back gifts?
@b1foschiefs I see salvation as a gift because we could never earn it, we could never be the perfect sinless lamb sacrifice. In that sense, we could never earn it so the righteous holy God is very gracious to save anyone. But we have so many preaching today a gospel that doesn't include repentance (turning from sin) although jesus, paul, and all the other preached it nor counting the cost to follow Jesus. (cont)
@thesacredcowtipper The problem is these people are not getting regenerated! And that does come from false preaching, but repentance must be genuine and is necessary for salvation. People are taking the free gift like a cheap handout, not really having the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, therefore not being sanctified from the world and practicing continual repentance. You cant repent without the chastening of the Spirit. Jesus' obedience was imputed to us as well as him being a sacrifice
@b1foschiefs You are so right. Unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. The Holy spirit cannot come into an individual adn they continue on in their sins as if He is not there. Bad preaching and EXTRA _Biblical practices have brought us to where we are at today in America. Continual repentance is hwo spiros Zodhiates explains it in the New Testament. It is present tense. How can you turn from sin continually, yet love it adn hold on to it?
@b1foschiefs In light of all jesus' sayings and how I see people living that claim to know Christ, but deny Him in their lifestyle whether it be open sinning, or living for self, I ahve to question how many have really received His grace. God's forgiving grace should put such a love in our hearts to serve Him but you see so little of that in America. Are you a 5-point calvinist? I consider myself a Wordist - (neither calvinist or arminiest).
@thesacredcowtipper I dont label myself, but I agree with what you just said. So whats the problem? If you truly have salvation, the works will support that fact and you will not be lost.However it is impossible to not sin while we are in the flesh,our thoughts are even evil. Jesus saved us from the totality of the law, including the moral law and perfect obedience to his will.The problem is you cannot accept Jesus,he accepts you.John 2:23-25.It is either a gift or by works or gift.Rom 4:4-5
@b1foschiefs Works are defintiely an evidence of our regeneration. No one is perfect even after salvation or we would nto need a glorified body. We also have an unrenewed mind. This is why we are asmonished to walk int he spirit so we don't fulfill the lust fo the flesh. Joh 1:11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. v12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
@jebeja there were never any altar calls till Charles Finney. His altar call at least would make you sit there sometimes for two days searching yoru heart. Rushed conversions hardly ever last. Wait till persecution starts in America and see how many more leave Christ. Millions have already left Christ in the last 5 years to the Emergent Church Movement, New Age, and other movements. If someone is going to have an altar call, make it something to where you have further discussion with (cont)
@jebeja that person. Give them time to coutn the cost. And please, oh please do not tell them Christianity will make their life easier. That is not the case in most countries where people are getting their arms and legs hacked off adn their homes burnt down. If youa re going to ahve an altar call, do it wisely. Hoep that helps you understand my position. By the way, Finney was about 150 years ago.
@b1foschiefs call upon the name of the Lord and thou shalt be saved. This is where I am a Wordist. Both sides (arminiest and calviinsim) seem to have there scriptures. I think we make it too hard. I'm an evangelist adn this is hwo I see the scritpures:
Preach the whoel gospel; death, burial, & resurrection. along with that, make it clear that repentance is demanded adn that you should count the cost before follwoing Jesus. Then you don't have people running to the altar in search of cheap grace
@prettylola1 I beleive that if a Christian (I almost did this) falls so deep into sin and enjoy the sin so much that they get to the point that they reject Jesus the same way they received Him. There are scritpures that both say elect and choose. I try not to get caught up on either side. I defintiely do not believe God made us robots to sin or robots to serve Him. I beleive someone can trod under the blood of Christ when they do this. I enjoy talking to you too.
@prettylola1 I'm not sure what you mean by "undo". The cross cannot save unless it is first preached and then believed. The cross also requires us to follow if we are truly His. Even Paul said, "to make your calling and election sure" to Christians. He must have been seeing a lack of evidence of conversion to say such a thing. There isn't one person saved in the Book of Acts that did nto hear the gospel first. Maybe I am misunderstanding you.
@thesacredcowtipper Of course the Gospel has to be preached ("How can someone believe unless someone preaches"). You must have misunderstood the question, but you seem to be saying what I have all along, if someone is not truly saved then they will turn away from God, but I don't believe that committing one sin while being a Christian takes away your eternal security and the future salvation that is promised in scripture.
@prettylola1 I don't beleive one sin woudl take away someone's salvation. I'm talking about someone who gets tot he point of loving their sin and THEY leave God. I think good examples that someone can turn away from God is in the parable about counting the cost. They started well but didn't finish the race. Other things to consider is the great apostasy (must fall forward before you can fall backward), (cont)
@prettylola1 Jesus' talk to the churches in Revelation. Jesus also talks about those who CONTINUE in His words. I udnerstand that Calvinism teaches the P (perseverance of the saints). The key here is that they were already saints (all of them) but they are to persevere. The New Testament is a covenant adn one party can break that covenant. God won't, but we can. That I think is the only difference I ahve with Calvinism.
@thesacredcowtipper I understand what you are saying, but Jesus says that not everyone that says, "Lord, Lord" is his. I think that those Christians who "walk away" from God were never Christians to begin with.
Altar calls and the sinner's prayer are all just man-made religious doctrines to trick people into believing they're saved! The way the Bible puts it is you have to repent, confess Jesus is Lord, and be baptized for the forgiveness of your sins. I'm talking about baptized in the water so your sins can be washed away. Seriously, Jesus says it in Matthew 28:18-20
"I'm saved," the logic goes, "because I asked Jesus into my heart when I was 10, and even though I'm not living for him now, I'm going to Heaven because I prayed the prayer and walked the aisle."
Lets pretend Hitler, a rapist or some satanic dude said exactly what you mention there and just because u prayed; u think your saved? Come on dude, wake up.
You have to walk the walk. be legit honest. when u ask Jesus you have to serve him and try to be holly at all times even if u sin. wake up
The modern-day use of the word saved is inappropriate; a person is not saved until after a lifetime of overcoming. There is no "instant" salvation. "He who endures to the END Shall be saved."
That verse in matthew is saying that if u believe u are strong with God and then u fall away into a sinful lifestyle, then maybe u never were saved because an act done by God cannot be reversed and since u did fall away u still might have been on fire for God, but u never truly pushed the devil out of your heart and so God was never able to come in. Thus the "I never knew you".
In actual fact, here's the real deal. If my neighbour transgressed all manner of harm and injustice, against a neighbour 2 doors up, popped in to see another neighbour, related his tale and says, do you forgive me for that? Respondent may say ''yeah I couldn't give a flip. What have we achieved? Nothing. Add to that the lack of verifiable evidence of GOD.( Please don't say you have some,buried in the back yard). And what is achieved? Nothing
@evidenceonly try this, go out and live a life of lawlessness, break all the commandments of God's law, and let me know how great your life is, while his wrath abides on you.
please excuse evidenceonly! really excuse him. a servant of the Lord must not strive. i get the sense from this video that it's suggests that arminianism allows for sin to remain in the believers life because of grace and salvation is still secure! just my little view which come from John's quoting the Lord, "for God so love the elect? that He gave His only begotten Son that...... oh sorry! it doesn't say that does it? i'm going to have to look up the word "whoever" Peace!
Oh and you're guess comes with the authority of what? evidence? no? Some other people said so? YES? So what? When asked Albert ienstein replied, "Its true everbody does say I'm wrong. But it would only take one man to... PROVE... it.'
ooooohhhhhhhhhhh mans desire to be morally superior to his neighbour. AAAAaaaannnd does'nt man invented religion play nicely into that gap...... geeeee its almost as if it could have survived that long because we use it as a tool to be morally superiour to our fellow man.....hey we could be onto something here... tell you what we scientists will do some work on it for the benifit of society while you religious people mutter in the corner
the preachings of this death cult disgust me, remember all of you that one day very soon, your cult will be gone from the face of this earth and people will gain true freedom, the freedom to think without having to fear eternal torture for simple thoughts, you are all weak minded fools
You can lose your faith. Salvation does NOT mean God removes your freewill. You do not become a robot when you get saved; therefore you can LEAVE salvation.
Here's the problem. Elect =/= predestined Christian. Elect = Christian Elder of tested and verified faith. Does Christ's claim that his elect never get stolen away make more sense now? People seem to forget that Christianity is a process of GROWING into a child God can be proud of. It's not ONE 180 degree turn, but a life of them.
There are three spheres of faith: unbelief, spiritual infancy, and electhood. Infants may fall back into sin, or can be of unverified salvation.
So if your a Christian and you fall away for a few years does this mean you can't come back? does it mean there is no hope for you. Is this what JESUS said when he talked about denying the Holyspirit and never been forgiven in this age or the next?
So it has nothing to do with Jesus Christ and the Gospel (His death,buried, the third day resurrection)...IT all has to do with PREDESTINATION!< so what is the purpose of life when really there is no guarantee and WHAT was(is) the purpose of Jesus?
When you put your faith in Jesus the Holy Spirit takes over & does what NO ONE else can do & that is make you Holy by fire. He is the very Anointing & Teacher to do this. He makes your spirit born again & gives you your new nature, the One who is the very Power to break every stronghold of sin in a believers life because He is Grace. U want proof? Check my channel 2 c my testimony 4 ur self. Sin does not have dominion over me because I am not under law but under Grace. Rom 6:14
Question? according to your teaching, ANYONE who came at the time of an alter call is not saved at all. besides that "SATAN" was behind it all the time. As a pastor I give alter calls to see whom God maybe working with, either in salvation or recommittment. If they come forward at an alter call, Eph 1:13 says when he heard the gospel they were sealed by the Holy Spirit. Alter calls are really not events of salvation, but can be a form of confermation to others to see God working.
The invented protestant doctrine of once saved always saved is refuted by many scriptures. There are too many to detail here.
Not even St. Paul thought he was permanently saved. He said in scripture: I DO NOT STAND ACQUITTED. THE ONE WHO JUDGES ME IS THE LORD. THEREFORE, DO NOT MAKE JUDGEMENT BEFORE THE APPOINTED TIME.
I wonder if Calvinists, who are free of course to espouse their theological interpretations just like Arminians and anyone else, added a notice to their videos that the video you are about to watch is a Calvinist-produced message, would their viewership would take a big dive? Calvinism is such a tiresome exercise.
I did consider myself as a calvanist at one point in time, until I started to read articles that refute the calvanist's claims..such as Jesus only died for some people.I also don't considerer myself to be a 100% Arminian either, because I believe that once someone is truly saved, then through the power of the Holy Spirit, God will not allow us to fall away.But I still think the Arminian view-point of salvation is alittle bit more accurate than the calvanist view-point, in my opinion. God Bless!
@xWhiteLightning Not trying to sway you one way or the other White Lightning, but I have to say I found it odd that you said you were a Calvinist until you started reading "articles" that refute their claims. In my case, I was leaned towards the Armenian view until I really started reading "The Bible"...not articles. Ephesians Chapter 1 is what did it for me. I am not 100 percent sure of election, but I lean that way after understanding God's word more. Peace and Love...
@fletchdrebon Yeah, I understand what your saying and Ephesians 1 also did persuade me to believe in election and calvanism aswell, but then I looked at some arguments against calvanist and I came across verses such as: (Ezekiel 33:11), (Jeremiah 13:17), (1 Chronicles 28:9),(1 John 2:2), (1 Timothy 2:4) etc.I personally find it quite odd how God can choose whom to save only a few, while the majority is sent to hell, while at the same time God's desire is for everyone to repent and NOT to perish
@xWhiteLightning Those are great verses WL. I appreciate you putting them there as they are a good reminder to me why I am not 100% sold on election. That being said, I think there is overwhelming amounts of scripture regarding election as well. On a side note, I am reading a book right now that says BOTH are correct-due to Abraham's promise and then the coming of the Messiah. Very interesting and thought out book. Thanks Brother...good discussion.
Jeremykeplinger so what u are saying is, if I got saved when I was 18, lived for Christ for a couple years, and then turned and walked away, and lived like hell for a couple years and died in that state, that I am still going to heaven? Wow!!! Wouldn't that be great? Not having to really do anything for God, just say one time "Lord forgive my sins" and that would be all?
In the end of this entire issue, it's only Jeus who knows the truth of each of us; where we stand with Him is between us and Him. Jesus came to save people, not cast them to hell. His mission was not to give us words and thoughts and ideas so as to damn this person or judge another....Is it so difficult to remember that it's God's nature to forgive people, not condemn them? HE SENT HIS SON TO DIE FOR US!!! What more proof does anyone need that it's not that difficult for God to restore us??!!
Jesus said You must BORN AGAIN. If you are saved. You stay saved. Saying I believe is not enough. But if your life evolves faith in God, in your positive works what ever it is, or and you pray in private, I think that's evidence of true salvation.
hatfiedadam, how do you explain the FACT that no sin will enter heaven is in the Bible? if you sin and then die, you are hell bound, the Word says so. no more need for debate, its done.
@Rhsam Not so, the Bible says that once one believes, and continues in the faith, he will be saved. You are saved from the power of sin (Romans) Jesus fulfilled the Law completely, so that there is now nothing standing in the way from our being brought into the Kingdom of God....I'd start reading the Bible and not just listening to a Pastor or teacher on this subject.
@jeremykeplinger you said the keys words, "and continues in the faith" if you dont continue, you are NOT saved. Period!!!!!! And I do read my Bible, i had better or I would be in trouble, since I am a minister. lol
@Rhsam But if you really are a citizen of Heaven, and believe, how can you be held guilty for something that you have been pardoned for? What I see you saying is that even if a believer sins and then dies, he is still bound for hell; how can that be? The Law having been fulfilled in the life of that believer because of their faith in Christ and His sacrifice. That man stands before God clean and pure. So then the Cross isn't enough for this man, we must add to it?
i believe that we are free from the letter of the law, but not the spirit. Saved by Faith Alone, yes. However, we are saved unto good works. No fruit. No Salvation.
@hatfieldadam And where does it say that in the Bible? You can do nothing to add to the work of Jesus Christ on the Cross....Either you believe that His work is enough or you attempt to follow the Law and should you read Galations; it's either all Christ or none at all. If we could do anything to help ourselves, we wouldn't need Him every day our lives....Period.
1My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
2And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
3And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
4. HE THAT SAITH, I KNOW HIM AND KEEPETH NOT HIS COMMANDMENTS, IS A LIAR, AND THE TRUTH IS NOT IN HIM.
1My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: 2And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. 3And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
4. HE THAT SAITH, I KNOW HIM AND KEEPETH NOT HIS COMMANDMENTS, IS A LIAR, AND THE TRUTH IS NOT IN HIM.
I'm glad the good pastor that was at the church I got saved at didn't believe what you are espousing. He did give an altar call. I was already being convicted by the Holy Spirit of my sins and of my need of Jesus Christ. I was 20 years old (53 now) I went forward at the invitation and called on Jesus Christ to forgive me and save me from hell. Guess what, He did exactly that right there and right then. Before I was able to stand back up I knew I was born again and have never doubted it since.
Salvation is fully and utterly by the grace and mercy of God through the sacrificial work Jesus Christ. Anyone, anywhere, and at anytime can be saved by fully trusting in the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Jesus came to seek and to save that which was lost. All mankind was lost through the fall of Adam. Christ came to redeem mankind. He shed His blood on the cross to make that redemption possible. My responsibility is to admit my sinful, lost condition and rely on Christ.
@wandwizard56 you throw away all chance at responsibility the second you allow yourself to be forgiven of a sin from someone who the sin was not towards, if you kill someone, ONLY that person can forgive you, not your fairytale jesus. so, you think that punishing us for what our ancestors did is a moral thing? you think that human sacrifice is a good way for us to throw away all responsibility? disgusting, you can NOT be ridden of responsibility from the non-ressurection of jesus.
@reginaDexant its not about hope, its about truth, why cant you people understand that no matter what you beleive, you cant change reality and anyways, i could beleive in an afterlife, just not your version of it and again, i find no hope in the doctrine of christianity, i only find evil and lies
wrong wrong wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you can, of your own free will turn and walk away from God and his grace. If you die in that state, you WILL go to hell. "Many will say in that day, Lord Lord, did we not prophecy in Your name? and I will say 'depart from me, I never knew you" If you can not backslide, then why is Jesus forever with the backslider? This is very dangerous teaching that if taken out of context will get you sent to hell.
So many Preachers draw a hazy line between "fruits" and "works". Not enough Works/Fruits? You may not be saved. Depend on your works? You don't understand Grace. No works or fruits, yet love and trust in the Blood of the Cross? Grace will still save you if God knows your heart but you have 'weak flesh'. Ask 10 Christian Pastors and get 10 different answers. Egomaniacs like Paul Washer claim to "KNOW" the Truth, yet his knowledge is little more than his opinion just like the rest of us...
@randy95023 This debate is so Confusing /// Iv said this to a Perfectionist salvation once and he said because IM Confused by all these Christian Doctrine's IM not saved .... Well I give it up then
Jesus ("Jehovah delivers/saves") was so to be named, according to Matthew 1 v 21, because He shall save HIS PEOPLE from their sins.
I write as one that was taught as a child to light candles to plaster statues.
Praise God who knows the end from the beginning, and is even this day delivering sinners from hell by a giving them faith and repentence, His word in the Bible and a desire for holiness, the "author and finisher". Amen.
@defgill True repentance means that there wouldn't be 999 more murders, since being born again is a transfermation regarding the nature of sin and an assistance by the Holy Spirit to change us from with in....
Gal2:14, “But when I saw that they (Apostles) walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel (Jesus' Apostles are now liars), I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?”
Gal2:11, "When Peter came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he was clearly in the wrong."
Acts15:24,Apostles gave gentiles no command to circumcise. Paul is confused.
@thedagonjones You're confused.In that context, PETER was wrong because he separated himself from the Gentiles in fear of the Jews.(see verses 11-13)..Peter knew better than this according the book of Acts 10 when Peter saw a vision that helped him understand that the good news had now come to the Gentiles and they and the Jews are one in Christ..but Peter acted like a hypocrite when he separated himself from the Gentiles in fear of the Jews because he knew better according to Acts 10.
There is no such thing as once saved always saved - that is the biggest lie of all lies! You cant live like a devil and expect to be saved from Hell. You must live a Holy Spirit filled life to overcome this world. The bible says - without the Spirit of Christ in you - you are none of his. After you have acknowledged Christ as your savior - you must then Repent of your sins and be baptized in Jesus name and be filled with the Holy Spirit - You cant make it without it - obey Acts 2:38
@mamothcar1 either you are born again or not. You can't be un-born again. Either you are in the kingdom of light to stay, or you are in darkness. You are not a human ping pong ball.
"If you look at John 10:25 and 26 he says that the Jews believed not. Because they didnt believe they were not of his sheep(no saved). If you dont believe in Jesus Christ and accept him as your saviour you are not going to heaven. Jesus clearly gives the invitation in Romans when he says"For WHOSOEVER shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." Whosoever means anybody the last time I checked. Paul said "For Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom i am chief.
@Dema26j4 The Bible says in Romans that "...all have sinned and come short of the Glory of God." All means ALL. There is no elect. God wants everyone to Go to heaven but you have to beleive on him and accept that he died and rose again for you. this is the true gospel. This guy is preaching heresy and is Sending others to hell one by one by not going out and telling them they can go to heaven by just beleiving on CHrist.
@Dema26j4 Yes, the means of grace to have the lamb's blood faith on the door posts in the Old Test would have worked for anyone, not just the Jews. But the Egyptians did not put lamb's blood on their door posts, and the death angel took their children. This is the same for today. Only in the New Testament and beyond, our lamb and his blood is the cross of Jesus dying for our sins as we trust So much more than a prayer, it is the forgiveness of sins by the perfect one and his payment alone.
Carlton Pearson was given the revelation that when Christ came to save everyone, that is what happened whether they accept it or not. Therefor, no one is going to hell because of unbelief. He is now a 'new thought' preacher.
@k0smon No one is going to hell??? Revelation 21:8 8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Jesus said: Matthew 22:13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness, there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. obey Acts 2:38
@mamothcar1 Even the psychic literature describes hellish conditions and they are varied. But they are not as the bible describes. There is no fire and brimstone, but darkness, misery, fear etc. And they are not eternal, for the people that deserve to be there can learn their lessons and improve their condition. The statement was "no one is going to hell BECAUSE OF UNBELIEF."
I think it is very insecure to trust in Christ putting a robe of rightoeusness over all your dirty sins, so you can go to heaven. No sin goes to heaven, and God can see thru that coat. And you know if youre a sinner or not. One clue is is your life a life of suffering. He that has suffered in the flesh ....says something like is finished and done with his past life of sinning; In the end times, "many will be purified."To not go to hell, I pray people all willdo their penance on earth.
acfathome I backed up everything I wrote. You? Nothing!
False apostle Paul avoided listing the greatest command twice as this would force Paul to obey all God's commands.If you love God keep his commandments.
Jn14:21He that hath my commandments,and keepeth them,he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father,and I will love him,and will manifest myself to him.
2Cor12:7And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations,there was given to me a thorn in the flesh,the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure
1Cor5:5You are to deliver this man over to Satan for physical discipline to destroy carnal lusts which prompted him to incest, that his spirit may yet be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.”
1Tim1:20.. I have delivered unto Satan,that they may learn not to blaspheme
You are full of crap just like so many "christians" today. Go read a bio on Augustine, he did not live a consecrated life and deserted his long-time live-in concubine who he refused to marry. Perhaps you have one of those also? Don't bother me again!
I'm sorry, some of the things you state are actually true but you, and the others on your tape come across a bit pompous and quite lame. I can't tell you why this is, in words, but i have sat through some terrible sermons and i'll always get that knot in my gut which indicates the words are nothing but bable. Do you actually know anything about Augustine? He was not a saved man and even though he had a 'conversion' of something it did not turn into merciful, kindly, godly life at all.
@annieladysmith: "Pompous?" You presume to stand in judgement of a great man of God St. Augustine, & you talk about others being pompous. But certainly it is true that the Bishop of Hippo had nothing to do w/ the wild inventions of Calvin. It is so historically absurd to try to corral St. Augustine into supporting the harsh teachings of Calvin. Just read what he said about the Eucharist or his starting of a monastic order.
his(not)truth777 Why did you send me a vile, filthy message outside the posting?I actually know. You are following your master Saul who changed his name to Paul to avoid being recognized.Paul never mentions he was Saul,only Luke does.Those following Saul are Pharisees which kill, rob and destroy.Jesus said they are of the devil.Paul says after his mystical light experience, "I am a pharisee"Paul never renounced being after his father the devil.Acts23:6,
@dagonjones1 if you feel such a need to rant your delusions the put up a video but dont bring yourself to other peoples videos and post your crap there especially when its not even related to the video
histruth777 is acting very nasty.He cannot defend Paul and is attacking me not my writing.I am using God's word to expose his source of wealth no doubt.False preachers make untold wealth off Pauls writings.Nobody agrees about anything.777 has build his life in the house on the sand which Jesus says is a foolish man.James calls Paul a foolish man in Jam2:19 in direct contradiction of the false apostle Paul in Rom4:1.
777 show me Biblically where I am wrong instead of attacking me.
The devil is a deceiver
zedrev01 2 weeks ago
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NAME BLOTTED OUT OF THE BOOK OF LIFE IF WE DO NOT OVERCOME (this is by the Power of God of Course but we must be a part of it because WE ARE) John 3:16 WHOSOEVER WILL Then Means NOTHING in ETERNAL SECURITY & ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED! Eternal Security Stinks from the Pits of Hell!
FormerMPSGT 1 month ago
Is this the same person who made the video rock n roll search for God?
Soul7Patrol 2 months ago
Decisional salvation states that self is free will and the article of salvation - the vehicle of activity in the Kingdom of Jesus Christ. Heresy.
TotalInabilityTruth 3 months ago
yes, altar call is usually an appeal to the flesh,
but so is every other means, esp those who would bully anyone with hell fire preaching of any kind.
BTW the carnal response to the call to holiness is ALWAYS legalist.
Once Saves Always Saved is dangerous heresy. Look at Hebrews 6:4. It is TOO clear, and shows that it speaks about christians.
you think in terms of mere doctrine rather than relationship with the Spirit. this leads to all sorts of error
Strefanasha 4 months ago
@Strefanasha No, salvation by grace speaks of relationship and spiritual union. Our spirits are born of the Spirit in full spiritual union with God in Christ. Nothing but holiness comes out of the Spirit of God and all works of the Spirit in and through us are perfect and holy. Our spirits born of the Spirit are holy. We are holy, perfect, blameless in Christ in this relationship of state of being as a new creation. The spirit born of God never sins. Romans 7. We are holy in Christ.
TotalInabilityTruth 3 months ago
@Strefanasha Hebrews 6:4 speaks of those who have attempted to secure salvation by their own wills and intellects and are not saved. One can experience being enlightened by the Spirit, taste the Heavenly gift and thus partake of the Spirit - but not be saved at all. For example, if you have a devil cast out of you - all these things have happened. Happened in Jesus' ministry. But, because the house was empty though swept - the devils came back 7 times more. Physical healing, same principle.
TotalInabilityTruth 3 months ago
Whats wrong with alter called salvation? What does that even mean? I went down to an alter and prayed when the preacher gave an alter call and i was saved and praise God I have been preaching His word. I don't get it. I just saw about 2 months ago come in the church and run to the alter and cry at the alter for about 45 minutes and gave his heart to Jesus. He has been clean every since. Praise the name of Jesus. I don't get the title.
summergod27 4 months ago
@summergod27 yeah the way i understand it. Is that this is referring to leadership saying that one is saved through an alter call. Only God saves, and man has no say in this spiritual reformation. Who am i or any one else to say one is saved. We don't know but we can speculate through their life style and fruit. God bless hope this helps
mark1585 4 months ago
These videos are incredible :)))))
through videos about satanism in hip-hop/movies/art/politics, the new world order policys.... and the gospels of god I have found back to god and jesus christ and feel prety good about it.
I am a sinner yes, not hiding any of it, but atleast I know what is the truth and know what song to play in the right mood.
TheDiamond123123 6 months ago
Deep Thinker: These preachers are not haters of those that preach a false gospel. They are lovers of people like yourself who are walking in deception. The 'gospel' that Osteen and others preach is all man-centered. There is no interest at all in the glory of God. NONE! If you are truly saved and care most about God's glory above all things then you will be able to discern the true from the false. When this happens you too will point out those who are deceiving God's people.
mikenathan57 6 months ago
Listen I am so sad that alot of these preachers are basically "haters" seem to be jealous of people who have a different and more successful ministry than them. Listen each and EVERY SINGLE episode Joel Osteen brings up the gospel and never ends the episode without giving the chance for someone to except Jesus as their Lord and Savior. I am NOT in agreement with P.Washer at all. If he has something to preach just preach its not his job to be pointing fingers at someone else. BOOO!!!
DeepThinker007 6 months ago
We all fall down in the mud,just don`t lay there and wallow around in it.Get up and clean yourself off. REPENT and go on. Jesus is coming back for a HOLY CHURCH.
ilililhy1 6 months ago
Any church made on man is false! I know the Catholic church is built on St. Peter,a man.
The Baptist church is built on Jesus Christ.He started the Baptist church because we practice and carry out His Great Commission according to Matt.28:19.
vrghiks 6 months ago
Outside the Catholic Church, there is no Salvation. This thrice defined dogma of the Catholic Church must be held by all Catholics.
390bullitt1968 6 months ago
@390bullitt1968 Heresy at its best!
vrghiks 6 months ago
@vrghiks - If you are not Catholic, you belong to a manmade sect. Therefore you worship man. and all who worship man will be condemned.
390bullitt1968 6 months ago
I do not argue against grace, I thank God for grace. What I am saying is that there are many scriptures that say emphatically that you CAN backslide. Just because someone accepts Jesus does not mean that they can live however they want to.
Rhsam 6 months ago
@Rhsam We can backslide, go through valleys, and stumble. But Salvation cannot be lost once TRUE regeneration takes place. God canot lose His sheep, and God promises that His work shall be finished, Phil 1:6. I actually think we agree here, But I just felt like throwing that out there. Thanks brother!
ItsNowWarfare 6 months ago
@ItsNowWarfare What is true regeneration or salvation. There is no such doctrine or scripture in the bible. The issue is not the lose of sheep it is the sheeps choice to leave the safety of the fold. The doctrine of iresistable grace is false, as is the one eternal salvation. Apostasy is the rejection of revealed truth by a former Believer. Otherwise it is not apostasy. There is a sin unto death and nothing changes the axiom " The wagtes Of sin is death" AQll souls are mine the soulm that
PastorJS1 6 months ago
@ItsNowWarfare sinneth (Old english) which denotes one upon whom sin has a habitual control and hold. that sinneth shall/must/will/and does- die. But the grace/gift of God is Eternal LIFE Through JESUS CHRIST. Grace is not for forgiveness that is what the death of the cross bought us. Grace and Truth deliver from sin and sinning. Shall we sin thsat Grace may abound. GOD Forbids this madness! Who was it that said Go and Sin no more?? JESUS said it!
PastorJS1 6 months ago
@PastorJS1 So, can we claim a doctrine of perfectionism though? Though it was commanded to sin no more, He who says he hasn't sinned makes himself a liar (1 John 1:10). Christ atones for our sins, I agree we should be dead to them. Key word, we should not be Bound by sin. Gal 2:20, Rom 6:6, It's very clear that we must crucify our flesh. Though it's one thing to strive for perfection, it's another to claim it. "Denotes on the habitual", One who is bound. To live IN sin is to disgrace (Jude 1:4)
ItsNowWarfare 6 months ago
@ItsNowWarfare No it say He who say he has no sin(Nature). Speaking to be born in total depravity. Jesus came to save from sin as was toild Joseph by the angel. Not save in sin. Where do u get this doctirne of no choice . Chjoose u this day whom ye shall serve. I put be fore you life and death. what is belief but a choice. True we can not save ourselves but u can obey man or GOD, or the flesh or the Spirit. who gives a command that is unkeepable? That is the devil LIE.. See Adam and EVE...
PastorJS1 6 months ago
@PastorJS1 If Gods sheep can leave than its evidence He never had them... 1 John 2:19. It also denies Gods sovreignty. After all, If He can't even finish His promised work of salvation, then He isn't all powerful. (Phil 1:6). Salvation is Gods gift to men. Did God save you, or did you save you? Was He worthy of you, or did He redeem you for His glory? Decisional regeneration creates 2 fold sons of hell. To say that we can choose Him shows that its not His gift, it makes it our gift to Him.
ItsNowWarfare 6 months ago
@ItsNowWarfare Then why do u sin??? is GOD the Author of Sin. Then why does He condemn what he allows? Shall I sin that grace may abound.. GOD forbid such madness.. How shall he that is dead live anylonger in that which he has died to. Were u not buried with Christ and then risen unto Life. Christ rose so we could yet sin. when the wages of sin have not and do not change. It is yet death. How shall u live any longer therein.. Rd Clarks commentary, with scripture.. Rmns 5th -the 6th chps..
PastorJS1 6 months ago
@PastorJS1 God created all things, so was there something wrong with Gods creation that allowed it to sin? God created a creation that was naturally fallen? Here, listen. Anyone who has recieved Salvation is perfect in Spirit, God calls us righteous, but it's only becase we have been atoned for. Our flesh is still sinful, but God accounted to us Christ's merit. The lord our righteousness, we can do no righteous act. Only Him who is in us. Though I do see what your saying. God Bless.
ItsNowWarfare 6 months ago
@PastorJS1 Where do you get a doctrine of free will? Like I said, man can choose no good. We are wicked. God had to predestine or nobody would be saved. We would slam the door shut on God because we would naturally hate that which is good. He is the final authority. We serve God because He has allowed us too. We wouldn't naturally serve Him by any means. Free will is mans view, altogether it seems like humanism. I agree, Jesus saved us from sin, not in it. God washes us so we no longer abide.
ItsNowWarfare 6 months ago
@PastorJS1 Salvation if of the Lord (Jonah 2:9), not a mans temporal decision.
I recommend reading Scripture, then elaborating on context, studying commentaries, and such forth.
Man has no choice in Salvation. He chose us (Ephesians 1:4). Jesus even prayed for us, not the world (John 17:9).
Though we do have 2 forms of Grace, Salvation, and common.
I just urge you, remember that, Salvation is of the lord.
ItsNowWarfare 6 months ago
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GahdeMalprigi1488x 7 months ago
There are no "altars" in the New Covenant! Jesus sacrifice on the cross was the last altar. Christians MUST stop using Old Covenant practices in the dispensation of grace.
yesterway 8 months ago
There was never any Cross ever. the Cross was never used to crucify people, do your homework. Came from the greek god Tannus. Pagan symbol.
MrAntireligions 8 months ago
@MrAntireligions
Jesus was crucified on a "stake" (tree, not cross)) with both of his hands place straight above his head and fastened there by long heavy spikes. The symbol of the cross is the symbol of Baal (many other names are used), is occult, and has nothing to do with Jesus Christ, Christianity, or the Bible. The most prominent example of this symbol (cross) in the world today is the one that surrounds the obelisk in St. Peter's square at the Vatican.
I've done my homework. ;-)
Str8Talker365 7 months ago
Need to get rid of the alter call sappy, emotional musick for sure.
filoIII 8 months ago
The only way you're saved is through baptism. Yes "water baptism" the only baptism there is.. From the word "baptismo" which means to be immersed in water. Read Acts 2:38, Read Mark 16:16, and even Jesus' last command Matthew 28:18-20.
freizen2006 9 months ago
@freizen2006 I got saved by Jesus!
b1foschiefs 9 months ago
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If any man be in Christ he is a new creature...."if you is what you was...you aint"
d1rr2llxr3g4rs 9 months ago
Jeremiah 3:22 states that God will forgive backsliders and help them, these guys just said there's no hope for backslider, clearly they are wrong.
Repent and grow
Tacom4ster 10 months ago
STOP WITH THE ADS IN THE BEGINNING
DOESTHEBIBLESAYTHAT 10 months ago
@freizen2006 You poor thing. lol - I'll give you this, at least your looking to the right person and seem to be trying. That passage says baptised in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Not baptising them in the water. He did mean for us to be baptised in water but the water doesn't save you, it is a symbol of being reborn through the saving grace of Christ Jesus. Being baptised is an act to show you have chosen Christ Jesus, and to claim Him as your saviour in front of men. God Bless.
wowzeez 10 months ago
i have yet to meet a true Christian that sins freely......how could one knowing that they are saved.
lilbeaveymac 10 months ago
@TheKenny4292 Amen brother. I don't think God had us go without Calvinistic knowledge for 1500 years. Arminianism has its faults also. In light of 'ALL SCRIPTURE" both teach some wrong things. I do agree with some parts to both sides. I will be a Wordist.
thesacredcowtipper 11 months ago
I'm a Biblical Wordist - not a calvinist nor arminiest. God has called all not wishing that ANY should perish. God elects those who have true repentance. There will be change in one's life if they are truly saved. God's grace is more than sufficient to help one overcome the sin in their life. We cannot have a form of godliness but then deny the power thereof that can change us.
thesacredcowtipper 1 year ago
@thesacredcowtipper So I guess God is sitting on his hands waiting for us to choose him so that we don't perish? I don't see anywhere in Scripture where God is so passive. In Peter 3:9, Peter was writing to the Church! Not everyone in the world! God is not wishing, wanting, or willing (depending on which translation you use) that any of his Church should perish! You have to look at who the text was written to; it was written to Christians.
prettylola1 10 months ago
@prettylola1 Read Mark 16:15 -20. No God is confirming His word when His church is faithful and preaches the gospel (the death, burial and resurrection) of Jesus by which no man will be saved. Peter did write tot the chruch but in context he also was talking about how things would get "AS IN THE DAYS OF NOAH" and was talking about sinners. Read the whole books. (cont)
thesacredcowtipper 10 months ago
@prettylola1 Aren't you also contradicting the whole hell message Rob is teaching if youthink the church, the bride of Christ can perish but the sinners won't? Aren't you nullifying your own argument?
You are right in the one hermeneutic as far as knowing who thebook is written to but you still have to read what is written in CONTEXT and who that person is talking about. Peter and Jude tlak about God's wrath being poured out on the ungodly.
thesacredcowtipper 10 months ago
@thesacredcowtipper Even though I am a Calvinist, I do believe in preaching the Gospel to all people, because it is commanded for us to do so (as you pointed out in Mark 16:15-20). My point was in your use of Peter 3:9, you failed to mention the word that qualifies who Peter was talking to, and who the passage was intended for: God's elect! Peter says, "God is patient with YOU, not willing that any should parish." Interesting how Peter used YOU instead of everyone, all, etc. (cont)
prettylola1 10 months ago
@prettylola1 Are you a hyper calvinist--beleive that God predestined people to live eternally in Hell? I see elect and choice in the scriptures. I dont' think the arminiest nor the calvinist fully understands this. I am not a Rob Bell that would say their are paradoxes in the bible. Our understanding isn't what it should. (cont)
thesacredcowtipper 10 months ago
@thesacredcowtipper I think the problem with hyper calvinism is that it doesn't realize that 'THERE IS NO TIME" with God. I think this concept explains the whole argument about elect, sovereignty adn predestination. I don't believe God waited 1,500 years to finally bring out the doctrine of calvinism either. Can Calvinism explain "the apostasy"? It can't, along with many other verses. I thank God for you calvinists who hit the streets. You guys are pretty faithful.
thesacredcowtipper 10 months ago
@thesacredcowtipper (cont) It's because the YOU is God's elect: the Church. We know that God's will is never thwarted (Job 42:2). And if his will is that none of his elect (the Church) should perish like Peter claims, then it makes perfect sense. But if God's will is that every human being should be saved, then we have to say that Scripture is wrong and God is limited in his sovereignty.
prettylola1 10 months ago
@prettylola1 Who is God's elect? The church. Who has prepared themselves a bride without spot or blemish through the power fo the holy spirit? How many have come adn then later disannulled the covenant they made with Christ? Many. This is apostasy. You avhe to fall forward before you can fall away. There are some things we don't understand. What about the man paul delivered to Satan for the destruction of the flesh so that (his soul) might be saved on the day of judgment? (cont)
thesacredcowtipper 10 months ago
@prettylola1 Then we have revelation when Jesus talked with the churches and told them to get right and endure unto the end. Was Philadelphia the only true elect church? That's not what Jesus imposed. Anyhow, I think Calvinism has some major problems. There are truths within parts of TULIP but I can bring out passage after passage that seems to contradict a lot of parts of it. Let's win souls brother adn nto argue over this.
thesacredcowtipper 10 months ago
@thesacredcowtipper I agree, let's preach the Gospel and let God be glorified in making his elect's call effectual. The only problem is that the Arminianism vs. Calvinism argument centers around the Gospel message. So we have a difficult time agreeing with one another which message is closer to biblical truth. Some of my closest friends are Arminian, and we do ministry together. All I know is that God says that he will never forsake us, and nothing can take us out of his hand. Obviously (cont)
prettylola1 10 months ago
@prettylola1 an apostate was never of God in the first place. Wolves in sheep's clothing. Perseverance of the Saints brother!
prettylola1 10 months ago
@prettylola1 Totally agree that God enver forsakes us but we forsake Him just like the prodigal did in the one parable. The Father desired him to come home and was quick to forgive him and throw a party but if the son didn't come home, I am left to beleive he would have stayed in the pigpen and died in his sins. Galatians 5 says people in habitual sin will have their part in hell. Good talking to you bro. I defintiely do not have a greasy grace arminiest view. We can leave him though.
thesacredcowtipper 10 months ago
@thesacredcowtipper I love the prodigal son passage, but I think that the father would have eventually went after the son (just as Peter said that, "God is patient with you"). Remember that the son came to his senses in that passage. When we come to our senses as believers the Holy Spirit is regenerating our hearts! So in a sense the "father" did pursue his son (if we read the parable as God being the "father"), because without the Holy Spirit working in the heart of the son, he would have never
prettylola1 9 months ago
@prettylola1 It's an interesting story because we see that the son had to suffer loss before he would even come to his senses. Was this a form of God's chastisement to draw His son back? Could be.
thesacredcowtipper 9 months ago
@thesacredcowtipper came back to the father. What about the picture that Jesus paints for us in the story of the Good Shepard? The Shepard leaves the 99 to PURSUE the 1 sheep that was lost. Sure, we Christians can get caught up in sin, but it seems as though you may be asserting that we can lose our salvation. Am I correct in saying that? True, God is without time but he also appoints the number of our days! I enjoy talking to you man. Keep proclaiming Christ!
prettylola1 9 months ago
@prettylola1 Too bad it is almost impossible to find a shepherd like Jesus anymore. They let the one go and try to hold onto the 99. I'm not an emergent so I won't beat aroudn the bush - Yes, I beleive someone can lose their salvation. Adam was perfect and sinless yet he chose to disobey God and walk away from God, inherited the sin nature and so on. (cont)
thesacredcowtipper 9 months ago
@thesacredcowtipper Problem is that Adam was not in a state of grace, he was in a state of perfection. A person cannot fall from grace, otherwise that wouldn't be grace. Do you understand what grace is?
b1foschiefs 9 months ago
@b1foschiefs Hi b1,
Yes grace is God's unmerited favor. There are many problems with P in tulip though even if we take out the Adam scenario since you gave a pretty good reason as to that not being a good srguement. One good example is in revelation where Jesus said: Rev 2:7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God. there are other examples like this
thesacredcowtipper 9 months ago
@thesacredcowtipper There are different rewards in heaven for different people. For example, the temple layout,being a type of Heaven was seperated into different courts in which some could enter and some not. Now what I am saying is not a fool proof arguement to what you say but, could it not be so that Jesus speaks of some receiving more because of their faith? Think about your own definition of grace-UNMERITED FAVOR. Keys-it is not merited, it is a gift. Does God take back gifts?
b1foschiefs 9 months ago
@b1foschiefs I see salvation as a gift because we could never earn it, we could never be the perfect sinless lamb sacrifice. In that sense, we could never earn it so the righteous holy God is very gracious to save anyone. But we have so many preaching today a gospel that doesn't include repentance (turning from sin) although jesus, paul, and all the other preached it nor counting the cost to follow Jesus. (cont)
thesacredcowtipper 9 months ago
@thesacredcowtipper The problem is these people are not getting regenerated! And that does come from false preaching, but repentance must be genuine and is necessary for salvation. People are taking the free gift like a cheap handout, not really having the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, therefore not being sanctified from the world and practicing continual repentance. You cant repent without the chastening of the Spirit. Jesus' obedience was imputed to us as well as him being a sacrifice
b1foschiefs 9 months ago
@b1foschiefs You are so right. Unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. The Holy spirit cannot come into an individual adn they continue on in their sins as if He is not there. Bad preaching and EXTRA _Biblical practices have brought us to where we are at today in America. Continual repentance is hwo spiros Zodhiates explains it in the New Testament. It is present tense. How can you turn from sin continually, yet love it adn hold on to it?
thesacredcowtipper 9 months ago
@b1foschiefs In light of all jesus' sayings and how I see people living that claim to know Christ, but deny Him in their lifestyle whether it be open sinning, or living for self, I ahve to question how many have really received His grace. God's forgiving grace should put such a love in our hearts to serve Him but you see so little of that in America. Are you a 5-point calvinist? I consider myself a Wordist - (neither calvinist or arminiest).
thesacredcowtipper 9 months ago
@thesacredcowtipper I dont label myself, but I agree with what you just said. So whats the problem? If you truly have salvation, the works will support that fact and you will not be lost.However it is impossible to not sin while we are in the flesh,our thoughts are even evil. Jesus saved us from the totality of the law, including the moral law and perfect obedience to his will.The problem is you cannot accept Jesus,he accepts you.John 2:23-25.It is either a gift or by works or gift.Rom 4:4-5
b1foschiefs 9 months ago
@b1foschiefs Works are defintiely an evidence of our regeneration. No one is perfect even after salvation or we would nto need a glorified body. We also have an unrenewed mind. This is why we are asmonished to walk int he spirit so we don't fulfill the lust fo the flesh. Joh 1:11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. v12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
I believe He accepts you when you repent
thesacredcowtipper 9 months ago
@thesacredcowtipper, So in other words stop the altar calls and just hope they'll come to Christ on their own I guess you're saying?
jebeja 9 months ago
@jebeja there were never any altar calls till Charles Finney. His altar call at least would make you sit there sometimes for two days searching yoru heart. Rushed conversions hardly ever last. Wait till persecution starts in America and see how many more leave Christ. Millions have already left Christ in the last 5 years to the Emergent Church Movement, New Age, and other movements. If someone is going to have an altar call, make it something to where you have further discussion with (cont)
thesacredcowtipper 9 months ago
@jebeja that person. Give them time to coutn the cost. And please, oh please do not tell them Christianity will make their life easier. That is not the case in most countries where people are getting their arms and legs hacked off adn their homes burnt down. If youa re going to ahve an altar call, do it wisely. Hoep that helps you understand my position. By the way, Finney was about 150 years ago.
thesacredcowtipper 9 months ago
@b1foschiefs call upon the name of the Lord and thou shalt be saved. This is where I am a Wordist. Both sides (arminiest and calviinsim) seem to have there scriptures. I think we make it too hard. I'm an evangelist adn this is hwo I see the scritpures:
Preach the whoel gospel; death, burial, & resurrection. along with that, make it clear that repentance is demanded adn that you should count the cost before follwoing Jesus. Then you don't have people running to the altar in search of cheap grace
thesacredcowtipper 9 months ago
@prettylola1 I beleive that if a Christian (I almost did this) falls so deep into sin and enjoy the sin so much that they get to the point that they reject Jesus the same way they received Him. There are scritpures that both say elect and choose. I try not to get caught up on either side. I defintiely do not believe God made us robots to sin or robots to serve Him. I beleive someone can trod under the blood of Christ when they do this. I enjoy talking to you too.
thesacredcowtipper 9 months ago
@thesacredcowtipper So, would you say that we can (by our own power) undo what was accomplished on the cross for us (Hebrews 9: 11-12.
prettylola1 9 months ago
@prettylola1 I'm not sure what you mean by "undo". The cross cannot save unless it is first preached and then believed. The cross also requires us to follow if we are truly His. Even Paul said, "to make your calling and election sure" to Christians. He must have been seeing a lack of evidence of conversion to say such a thing. There isn't one person saved in the Book of Acts that did nto hear the gospel first. Maybe I am misunderstanding you.
thesacredcowtipper 9 months ago
@thesacredcowtipper Of course the Gospel has to be preached ("How can someone believe unless someone preaches"). You must have misunderstood the question, but you seem to be saying what I have all along, if someone is not truly saved then they will turn away from God, but I don't believe that committing one sin while being a Christian takes away your eternal security and the future salvation that is promised in scripture.
prettylola1 9 months ago
@prettylola1 I don't beleive one sin woudl take away someone's salvation. I'm talking about someone who gets tot he point of loving their sin and THEY leave God. I think good examples that someone can turn away from God is in the parable about counting the cost. They started well but didn't finish the race. Other things to consider is the great apostasy (must fall forward before you can fall backward), (cont)
thesacredcowtipper 9 months ago
@prettylola1 Jesus' talk to the churches in Revelation. Jesus also talks about those who CONTINUE in His words. I udnerstand that Calvinism teaches the P (perseverance of the saints). The key here is that they were already saints (all of them) but they are to persevere. The New Testament is a covenant adn one party can break that covenant. God won't, but we can. That I think is the only difference I ahve with Calvinism.
thesacredcowtipper 9 months ago
@thesacredcowtipper I understand what you are saying, but Jesus says that not everyone that says, "Lord, Lord" is his. I think that those Christians who "walk away" from God were never Christians to begin with.
prettylola1 9 months ago
So how do I get born again if not by responding to a Gospel message?
jb1wohrrcom1 1 year ago
Altar calls and the sinner's prayer are all just man-made religious doctrines to trick people into believing they're saved! The way the Bible puts it is you have to repent, confess Jesus is Lord, and be baptized for the forgiveness of your sins. I'm talking about baptized in the water so your sins can be washed away. Seriously, Jesus says it in Matthew 28:18-20
freizen2006 1 year ago
Why all the harsh rheoteric? do we not see God's good graces manifest in this other churches who do alter calls to accept Jesus?
matrxmax 1 year ago
"I'm saved," the logic goes, "because I asked Jesus into my heart when I was 10, and even though I'm not living for him now, I'm going to Heaven because I prayed the prayer and walked the aisle."
Lets pretend Hitler, a rapist or some satanic dude said exactly what you mention there and just because u prayed; u think your saved? Come on dude, wake up.
You have to walk the walk. be legit honest. when u ask Jesus you have to serve him and try to be holly at all times even if u sin. wake up
7abmunoz 1 year ago
The modern-day use of the word saved is inappropriate; a person is not saved until after a lifetime of overcoming. There is no "instant" salvation. "He who endures to the END Shall be saved."
unclewalt56 1 year ago
baptism is the only way!! Acts 2:38
freizen2006 1 year ago
That verse in matthew is saying that if u believe u are strong with God and then u fall away into a sinful lifestyle, then maybe u never were saved because an act done by God cannot be reversed and since u did fall away u still might have been on fire for God, but u never truly pushed the devil out of your heart and so God was never able to come in. Thus the "I never knew you".
metallica4169 1 year ago
Those who REPENT before accepting Jesus are the ones truly saved.
ana232 1 year ago
the how is one to be truly saved then if that be the case?
fragmentsofmemory 1 year ago
In actual fact, here's the real deal. If my neighbour transgressed all manner of harm and injustice, against a neighbour 2 doors up, popped in to see another neighbour, related his tale and says, do you forgive me for that? Respondent may say ''yeah I couldn't give a flip. What have we achieved? Nothing. Add to that the lack of verifiable evidence of GOD.( Please don't say you have some,buried in the back yard). And what is achieved? Nothing
evidenceonly 1 year ago 2
@evidenceonly try this, go out and live a life of lawlessness, break all the commandments of God's law, and let me know how great your life is, while his wrath abides on you.
Elijah43mb 1 year ago
I hope you're talking too other humans when you ask that.
evidenceonly 1 year ago
please excuse evidenceonly! really excuse him. a servant of the Lord must not strive. i get the sense from this video that it's suggests that arminianism allows for sin to remain in the believers life because of grace and salvation is still secure! just my little view which come from John's quoting the Lord, "for God so love the elect? that He gave His only begotten Son that...... oh sorry! it doesn't say that does it? i'm going to have to look up the word "whoever" Peace!
MediumShag 1 year ago
RELIGION = PERMANENT PURVEYORS OF PIFFLE ........basically
evidenceonly 1 year ago
Oh and you're guess comes with the authority of what? evidence? no? Some other people said so? YES? So what? When asked Albert ienstein replied, "Its true everbody does say I'm wrong. But it would only take one man to... PROVE... it.'
evidenceonly 1 year ago
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keatopolis 1 year ago
ooooohhhhhhhhhhh mans desire to be morally superior to his neighbour. AAAAaaaannnd does'nt man invented religion play nicely into that gap...... geeeee its almost as if it could have survived that long because we use it as a tool to be morally superiour to our fellow man.....hey we could be onto something here... tell you what we scientists will do some work on it for the benifit of society while you religious people mutter in the corner
evidenceonly 1 year ago
the preachings of this death cult disgust me, remember all of you that one day very soon, your cult will be gone from the face of this earth and people will gain true freedom, the freedom to think without having to fear eternal torture for simple thoughts, you are all weak minded fools
blazereef 1 year ago
You can lose your faith. Salvation does NOT mean God removes your freewill. You do not become a robot when you get saved; therefore you can LEAVE salvation.
SheLovesG0D 1 year ago
Here's the problem. Elect =/= predestined Christian. Elect = Christian Elder of tested and verified faith. Does Christ's claim that his elect never get stolen away make more sense now? People seem to forget that Christianity is a process of GROWING into a child God can be proud of. It's not ONE 180 degree turn, but a life of them.
There are three spheres of faith: unbelief, spiritual infancy, and electhood. Infants may fall back into sin, or can be of unverified salvation.
nofalltoofar 1 year ago
So if your a Christian and you fall away for a few years does this mean you can't come back? does it mean there is no hope for you. Is this what JESUS said when he talked about denying the Holyspirit and never been forgiven in this age or the next?
Allanlegacy43 1 year ago
O.K. what was that about getting saved again?
theskyisfalling321 1 year ago
So it has nothing to do with Jesus Christ and the Gospel (His death,buried, the third day resurrection)...IT all has to do with PREDESTINATION!< so what is the purpose of life when really there is no guarantee and WHAT was(is) the purpose of Jesus?
Ogram1000 1 year ago
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PureGraceEvangelism 1 year ago
cristianity big fake relegion,in the world,peganism
mustang73648 1 year ago
@mustang73648 You lake proof
Domodeath 1 year ago
Question? according to your teaching, ANYONE who came at the time of an alter call is not saved at all. besides that "SATAN" was behind it all the time. As a pastor I give alter calls to see whom God maybe working with, either in salvation or recommittment. If they come forward at an alter call, Eph 1:13 says when he heard the gospel they were sealed by the Holy Spirit. Alter calls are really not events of salvation, but can be a form of confermation to others to see God working.
num1rltyguy 1 year ago
The invented protestant doctrine of once saved always saved is refuted by many scriptures. There are too many to detail here.
Not even St. Paul thought he was permanently saved. He said in scripture: I DO NOT STAND ACQUITTED. THE ONE WHO JUDGES ME IS THE LORD. THEREFORE, DO NOT MAKE JUDGEMENT BEFORE THE APPOINTED TIME.
rbmMan2 1 year ago
I wonder if Calvinists, who are free of course to espouse their theological interpretations just like Arminians and anyone else, added a notice to their videos that the video you are about to watch is a Calvinist-produced message, would their viewership would take a big dive? Calvinism is such a tiresome exercise.
roaringwaterbay 1 year ago
God loves a repentant heart.
MrHawklan 1 year ago
I did consider myself as a calvanist at one point in time, until I started to read articles that refute the calvanist's claims..such as Jesus only died for some people.I also don't considerer myself to be a 100% Arminian either, because I believe that once someone is truly saved, then through the power of the Holy Spirit, God will not allow us to fall away.But I still think the Arminian view-point of salvation is alittle bit more accurate than the calvanist view-point, in my opinion. God Bless!
xWhiteLightning 1 year ago
@xWhiteLightning Not trying to sway you one way or the other White Lightning, but I have to say I found it odd that you said you were a Calvinist until you started reading "articles" that refute their claims. In my case, I was leaned towards the Armenian view until I really started reading "The Bible"...not articles. Ephesians Chapter 1 is what did it for me. I am not 100 percent sure of election, but I lean that way after understanding God's word more. Peace and Love...
fletchdrebon 1 year ago
@fletchdrebon Yeah, I understand what your saying and Ephesians 1 also did persuade me to believe in election and calvanism aswell, but then I looked at some arguments against calvanist and I came across verses such as: (Ezekiel 33:11), (Jeremiah 13:17), (1 Chronicles 28:9),(1 John 2:2), (1 Timothy 2:4) etc.I personally find it quite odd how God can choose whom to save only a few, while the majority is sent to hell, while at the same time God's desire is for everyone to repent and NOT to perish
xWhiteLightning 1 year ago
@xWhiteLightning Those are great verses WL. I appreciate you putting them there as they are a good reminder to me why I am not 100% sold on election. That being said, I think there is overwhelming amounts of scripture regarding election as well. On a side note, I am reading a book right now that says BOTH are correct-due to Abraham's promise and then the coming of the Messiah. Very interesting and thought out book. Thanks Brother...good discussion.
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xWhiteLightning 1 year ago
Jeremykeplinger so what u are saying is, if I got saved when I was 18, lived for Christ for a couple years, and then turned and walked away, and lived like hell for a couple years and died in that state, that I am still going to heaven? Wow!!! Wouldn't that be great? Not having to really do anything for God, just say one time "Lord forgive my sins" and that would be all?
Rhsam 1 year ago
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TheToloachito 1 year ago
Christianity is such a scam... Horus= Jesus
brianbgood 1 year ago
In the end of this entire issue, it's only Jeus who knows the truth of each of us; where we stand with Him is between us and Him. Jesus came to save people, not cast them to hell. His mission was not to give us words and thoughts and ideas so as to damn this person or judge another....Is it so difficult to remember that it's God's nature to forgive people, not condemn them? HE SENT HIS SON TO DIE FOR US!!! What more proof does anyone need that it's not that difficult for God to restore us??!!
jeremykeplinger 1 year ago
Jesus said You must BORN AGAIN. If you are saved. You stay saved. Saying I believe is not enough. But if your life evolves faith in God, in your positive works what ever it is, or and you pray in private, I think that's evidence of true salvation.
trianglewhip 1 year ago
hatfiedadam, how do you explain the FACT that no sin will enter heaven is in the Bible? if you sin and then die, you are hell bound, the Word says so. no more need for debate, its done.
Rhsam 1 year ago
@Rhsam Not so, the Bible says that once one believes, and continues in the faith, he will be saved. You are saved from the power of sin (Romans) Jesus fulfilled the Law completely, so that there is now nothing standing in the way from our being brought into the Kingdom of God....I'd start reading the Bible and not just listening to a Pastor or teacher on this subject.
jeremykeplinger 1 year ago
@jeremykeplinger you said the keys words, "and continues in the faith" if you dont continue, you are NOT saved. Period!!!!!! And I do read my Bible, i had better or I would be in trouble, since I am a minister. lol
Rhsam 1 year ago
@Rhsam But if you really are a citizen of Heaven, and believe, how can you be held guilty for something that you have been pardoned for? What I see you saying is that even if a believer sins and then dies, he is still bound for hell; how can that be? The Law having been fulfilled in the life of that believer because of their faith in Christ and His sacrifice. That man stands before God clean and pure. So then the Cross isn't enough for this man, we must add to it?
jeremykeplinger 1 year ago
@Rhsam Then it is not of Grace. Its either law or Grace. They mix about as good as water and oil
hatfieldadam 6 months ago
i believe that we are free from the letter of the law, but not the spirit. Saved by Faith Alone, yes. However, we are saved unto good works. No fruit. No Salvation.
hatfieldadam 1 year ago
@hatfieldadam And where does it say that in the Bible? You can do nothing to add to the work of Jesus Christ on the Cross....Either you believe that His work is enough or you attempt to follow the Law and should you read Galations; it's either all Christ or none at all. If we could do anything to help ourselves, we wouldn't need Him every day our lives....Period.
jeremykeplinger 1 year ago
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1 John 2
1My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
2And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
3And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
4. HE THAT SAITH, I KNOW HIM AND KEEPETH NOT HIS COMMANDMENTS, IS A LIAR, AND THE TRUTH IS NOT IN HIM.
GARYCOLEIV 1 year ago
1 John 2
1My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: 2And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. 3And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
4. HE THAT SAITH, I KNOW HIM AND KEEPETH NOT HIS COMMANDMENTS, IS A LIAR, AND THE TRUTH IS NOT IN HIM.
GARYCOLEIV 1 year ago
I REFUTE CALVINISM!!!
tiger507 1 year ago
I'm glad the good pastor that was at the church I got saved at didn't believe what you are espousing. He did give an altar call. I was already being convicted by the Holy Spirit of my sins and of my need of Jesus Christ. I was 20 years old (53 now) I went forward at the invitation and called on Jesus Christ to forgive me and save me from hell. Guess what, He did exactly that right there and right then. Before I was able to stand back up I knew I was born again and have never doubted it since.
wandwizard56 1 year ago
Salvation is fully and utterly by the grace and mercy of God through the sacrificial work Jesus Christ. Anyone, anywhere, and at anytime can be saved by fully trusting in the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Jesus came to seek and to save that which was lost. All mankind was lost through the fall of Adam. Christ came to redeem mankind. He shed His blood on the cross to make that redemption possible. My responsibility is to admit my sinful, lost condition and rely on Christ.
wandwizard56 1 year ago 5
@wandwizard56 Amen!
MasterPhil175 1 year ago
@wandwizard56 you throw away all chance at responsibility the second you allow yourself to be forgiven of a sin from someone who the sin was not towards, if you kill someone, ONLY that person can forgive you, not your fairytale jesus. so, you think that punishing us for what our ancestors did is a moral thing? you think that human sacrifice is a good way for us to throw away all responsibility? disgusting, you can NOT be ridden of responsibility from the non-ressurection of jesus.
blazereef 1 year ago
@blazereef So then, where is your hope?
reginaDexant 1 year ago
@reginaDexant its not about hope, its about truth, why cant you people understand that no matter what you beleive, you cant change reality and anyways, i could beleive in an afterlife, just not your version of it and again, i find no hope in the doctrine of christianity, i only find evil and lies
blazereef 1 year ago
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DreamsofMajesty 1 year ago
wrong wrong wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you can, of your own free will turn and walk away from God and his grace. If you die in that state, you WILL go to hell. "Many will say in that day, Lord Lord, did we not prophecy in Your name? and I will say 'depart from me, I never knew you" If you can not backslide, then why is Jesus forever with the backslider? This is very dangerous teaching that if taken out of context will get you sent to hell.
Rhsam 1 year ago
@Rhsam
if you think you are able to run out of God's hand that is so big that he holds the universe in His hand, start running.
hatfieldadam 1 year ago
Carlton Pearson's gospel of inclusion eliminates this whole problem.
k0smon 1 year ago
So many Preachers draw a hazy line between "fruits" and "works". Not enough Works/Fruits? You may not be saved. Depend on your works? You don't understand Grace. No works or fruits, yet love and trust in the Blood of the Cross? Grace will still save you if God knows your heart but you have 'weak flesh'. Ask 10 Christian Pastors and get 10 different answers. Egomaniacs like Paul Washer claim to "KNOW" the Truth, yet his knowledge is little more than his opinion just like the rest of us...
randy95023 1 year ago
@randy95023 This debate is so Confusing /// Iv said this to a Perfectionist salvation once and he said because IM Confused by all these Christian Doctrine's IM not saved .... Well I give it up then
simplistiCI 1 year ago
Thank you for this biblical exegesis.
Jesus ("Jehovah delivers/saves") was so to be named, according to Matthew 1 v 21, because He shall save HIS PEOPLE from their sins.
I write as one that was taught as a child to light candles to plaster statues.
Praise God who knows the end from the beginning, and is even this day delivering sinners from hell by a giving them faith and repentence, His word in the Bible and a desire for holiness, the "author and finisher". Amen.
michaelbyrnes2012 1 year ago
You forgot to add Martin Luther who said a man can murder a 1000 times a day and be justified.
defgill 1 year ago
@defgill True repentance means that there wouldn't be 999 more murders, since being born again is a transfermation regarding the nature of sin and an assistance by the Holy Spirit to change us from with in....
john146only 1 year ago
Gal2:14, “But when I saw that they (Apostles) walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel (Jesus' Apostles are now liars), I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?”
Gal2:11, "When Peter came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he was clearly in the wrong."
Acts15:24,Apostles gave gentiles no command to circumcise. Paul is confused.
thedagonjones 1 year ago
@thedagonjones You're confused.In that context, PETER was wrong because he separated himself from the Gentiles in fear of the Jews.(see verses 11-13)..Peter knew better than this according the book of Acts 10 when Peter saw a vision that helped him understand that the good news had now come to the Gentiles and they and the Jews are one in Christ..but Peter acted like a hypocrite when he separated himself from the Gentiles in fear of the Jews because he knew better according to Acts 10.
GodLovesUs100 1 year ago
@GodLovesUs100 That is correct!
john146only 1 year ago
@thedagonjones Sounds like you are confused cherry verse picker, now how about you obey the bible and look at the WHOLE COUSIL of GOD's WORD.
john146only 1 year ago
There is no such thing as once saved always saved - that is the biggest lie of all lies! You cant live like a devil and expect to be saved from Hell. You must live a Holy Spirit filled life to overcome this world. The bible says - without the Spirit of Christ in you - you are none of his. After you have acknowledged Christ as your savior - you must then Repent of your sins and be baptized in Jesus name and be filled with the Holy Spirit - You cant make it without it - obey Acts 2:38
mamothcar1 1 year ago
@mamothcar1 "once saved always saved."
Calvinism is a lie from Hell! Salvation is of Jesus Christ alone and not of proving ourselves to show that we our saved.
twospot7777777 1 year ago
@mamothcar1 either you are born again or not. You can't be un-born again. Either you are in the kingdom of light to stay, or you are in darkness. You are not a human ping pong ball.
john146only 1 year ago
"If you look at John 10:25 and 26 he says that the Jews believed not. Because they didnt believe they were not of his sheep(no saved). If you dont believe in Jesus Christ and accept him as your saviour you are not going to heaven. Jesus clearly gives the invitation in Romans when he says"For WHOSOEVER shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." Whosoever means anybody the last time I checked. Paul said "For Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom i am chief.
Dema26j4 1 year ago
@Dema26j4 The Bible says in Romans that "...all have sinned and come short of the Glory of God." All means ALL. There is no elect. God wants everyone to Go to heaven but you have to beleive on him and accept that he died and rose again for you. this is the true gospel. This guy is preaching heresy and is Sending others to hell one by one by not going out and telling them they can go to heaven by just beleiving on CHrist.
Dema26j4 1 year ago
@Dema26j4 Yes, the means of grace to have the lamb's blood faith on the door posts in the Old Test would have worked for anyone, not just the Jews. But the Egyptians did not put lamb's blood on their door posts, and the death angel took their children. This is the same for today. Only in the New Testament and beyond, our lamb and his blood is the cross of Jesus dying for our sins as we trust So much more than a prayer, it is the forgiveness of sins by the perfect one and his payment alone.
john146only 1 year ago
Carlton Pearson was given the revelation that when Christ came to save everyone, that is what happened whether they accept it or not. Therefor, no one is going to hell because of unbelief. He is now a 'new thought' preacher.
k0smon 1 year ago
@k0smon No one is going to hell??? Revelation 21:8 8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Jesus said: Matthew 22:13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness, there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. obey Acts 2:38
mamothcar1 1 year ago
@mamothcar1 Even the psychic literature describes hellish conditions and they are varied. But they are not as the bible describes. There is no fire and brimstone, but darkness, misery, fear etc. And they are not eternal, for the people that deserve to be there can learn their lessons and improve their condition. The statement was "no one is going to hell BECAUSE OF UNBELIEF."
k0smon 1 year ago
I think it is very insecure to trust in Christ putting a robe of rightoeusness over all your dirty sins, so you can go to heaven. No sin goes to heaven, and God can see thru that coat. And you know if youre a sinner or not. One clue is is your life a life of suffering. He that has suffered in the flesh ....says something like is finished and done with his past life of sinning; In the end times, "many will be purified."To not go to hell, I pray people all willdo their penance on earth.
f57mich 1 year ago
acfathome I backed up everything I wrote. You? Nothing!
False apostle Paul avoided listing the greatest command twice as this would force Paul to obey all God's commands.If you love God keep his commandments.
Jn14:21He that hath my commandments,and keepeth them,he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father,and I will love him,and will manifest myself to him.
dagonjones1 1 year ago
Is this of God?
2Cor12:7And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations,there was given to me a thorn in the flesh,the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure
1Cor5:5You are to deliver this man over to Satan for physical discipline to destroy carnal lusts which prompted him to incest, that his spirit may yet be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.”
1Tim1:20.. I have delivered unto Satan,that they may learn not to blaspheme
dagonjones1 1 year ago
You are full of crap just like so many "christians" today. Go read a bio on Augustine, he did not live a consecrated life and deserted his long-time live-in concubine who he refused to marry. Perhaps you have one of those also? Don't bother me again!
annieladysmith 1 year ago
@jehovahuponyou
dagonjones1 1 year ago
I'm sorry, some of the things you state are actually true but you, and the others on your tape come across a bit pompous and quite lame. I can't tell you why this is, in words, but i have sat through some terrible sermons and i'll always get that knot in my gut which indicates the words are nothing but bable. Do you actually know anything about Augustine? He was not a saved man and even though he had a 'conversion' of something it did not turn into merciful, kindly, godly life at all.
annieladysmith 1 year ago
@annieladysmith: "Pompous?" You presume to stand in judgement of a great man of God St. Augustine, & you talk about others being pompous. But certainly it is true that the Bishop of Hippo had nothing to do w/ the wild inventions of Calvin. It is so historically absurd to try to corral St. Augustine into supporting the harsh teachings of Calvin. Just read what he said about the Eucharist or his starting of a monastic order.
VictorLepanto 1 year ago
his(not)truth777 Why did you send me a vile, filthy message outside the posting?I actually know. You are following your master Saul who changed his name to Paul to avoid being recognized.Paul never mentions he was Saul,only Luke does.Those following Saul are Pharisees which kill, rob and destroy.Jesus said they are of the devil.Paul says after his mystical light experience, "I am a pharisee"Paul never renounced being after his father the devil.Acts23:6,
Your life built on a lie and deceit.
dagonjones1 1 year ago
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histruth777 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@dagonjones1 if you feel such a need to rant your delusions the put up a video but dont bring yourself to other peoples videos and post your crap there especially when its not even related to the video
histruth777 1 year ago
histruth777 is acting very nasty.He cannot defend Paul and is attacking me not my writing.I am using God's word to expose his source of wealth no doubt.False preachers make untold wealth off Pauls writings.Nobody agrees about anything.777 has build his life in the house on the sand which Jesus says is a foolish man.James calls Paul a foolish man in Jam2:19 in direct contradiction of the false apostle Paul in Rom4:1.
777 show me Biblically where I am wrong instead of attacking me.
dagonjones1 1 year ago