Triumph of the Nerds [three of three] 6/6

[1990shahid]

thanks for uploading this crackmate (Y)

[vote4jellodk]

Apple faded pretty hard...errrr...into the spotlight.

[Canadianloyalist123]

Funny how things turn out alright.

Apple very renowned and the wealthiest company on the planet.

[hellonathan]

I used to make cool technology. Now I make nothing. I am glued to my pay check. FML.

[masdtgkjnrgnrifmtgbn]

Buying something in a box? INSANE!

[psimon12345]

So when is the newest version of this documentary going to be updated?

[roadene]

Thumbs up for the whole movie. Very interesting inspiring stuff

[FoxyTowns]

What is Jen doing with the internet?

[evansekful]

looking at it, he was pretty much on the money about see you in 10 years. by 2006, there was already tablets, ipods, google, google docs, youtube, facebook, smartphones, apple tv was in the works and itunes had what looked like features designed for an apple phone.

[Swiftyfann]

Rip Steve jobs.

[snooters]

There's a sequel on youtube - nerds 2.0.1

[diablomix]

In the end Larry is right. Nobody buys software anymore and the internet is the hub for everything and anything regardless of what type of computing device you have.

[KolasName]

Larry (as many) think up over a 10-20 years far. TV with browsers, web-apps, SaaS and others are that he was taking about, this time is coming up right now. Still he is very successful man.

[MrsSarb]

@KolasName I don't know about others, but our TVs are hooked up to the internet. It's not all that difficult. We can easily switch back and forth between cable and the internet. Netflix is also doing this. The internet will eventually be everywhere.

[danielearwicker]

Does Larry have an iPad now?

[mrbeady9]

This is an amazing movie!!

[jrr0385]

@lonepantherkmt good counter argument there, go fuck yourself.

[jrr0385]

@lonepantherkmt "ur and idiot", brilliant. Anyway, don't take what he is saying verbatim. He didn't exactly nail it, but he had the right ideas. He said we should be able to download software right off the internet, that's happened. He mentions an "information appliance connected to the internet." How is that not exactly the same fucking idea as the iphone and ipad? He was wrong about the television playing a role in it, but he had the general idea of what became a billion dollar industry.

[tubub]

"See you in 10 years!" that would've been 2006, when i was 13. I'm now 18 and I still don't get an update... something tells me he'll come out with a new series once tech is REALLY booming again in a few years

[Reeseycup79]

He should make an update video. A lot has changed in 15 years.

[ynkno13]

This guy predicted the iPad!

[beatingyou01]

Larry is a little bit of a weirdo

[MegaCellProductions]

Man, I wish they would of made that today. Apple's comeback in the 1990's was epic, when they introduced art to their computers and set the bar of what computers should look like.

[Senakujin]

while cloud computing will play a large role, i don't think it will ever overtake the pc for reasons of privacy and control. Sure a lot of apps will go the way of cloud computing, its feasible to see PCs loose ground with the proper infrastructure in connectivity, but that has so much politics and BS involved in it that it wont happen for a while.

[cusinndzl]

It's been ten years. The Internet is here and it has changed things, but I believe it still has a ways to go before it is finished.

[JCMaldonado13]

And here are we today in the year 2011 and Apple is leading the way, like it always has! With their Post-PC devices, like the iPod iPhone iPad.

But yet innovating the PC and making these into one.

The last decade was all about the Web and becoming what it is today and 2010 was the year of social networking or better known as Facebook.

So what can we expect from this decade? I think as they predicted, companies specially Apple are going to go towards Cloud-Computing, but then again who knows!

[brian4480]

@JCMaldonado13 Did you watch the part about Jobs vision of how well the Macintosh was doing,and how well it really was doing? You are making the same mistake. The only thing its leading in is price, and that is the only thing is has ever lead in. Shit, Gates is even better at capitalizing on "borrowed" tech....and Jobs said that was the most important part. I like Jobs he is a smart unique person...i don't like appleites...they are dumb and throw money away. Apple=$800 pc for $3000

[Cooi1001]

Has it been 10 ten years yet

[rania3830]

Larry is an idiot.

[flotopo]

Isn't it ironic how at the time this documentary was made Steve Jobs had not yet returned to Apple, only to do so later and in order to straighten things up and give the world the Mac again, only better, more powerful, more dependable and more professional than any computer out there?

Today in the mind and perception of the market when you say PC, you think "ordinary", when you say Mac, you say "extraordinary"!

[hustletv]

For the record when the PC dies, Real computing and innovation will die with it. We'll be left with zombie iAD loving idiot users.

[hustletv]

The Oracle guy is a Dick but a smart man. He saw the future and Jobs put his Plan in effect. Download everything.

[Chrislloyd00123]

Its about time and the prediction is very correct 30 years l8er now we are indeed seeing PC's going down and Tablets and Phones Entering a new era :)

And this documentry is old but as apple is keeping up with the innovation.... they are no more in trouble they are headed in the right direction..

And crincley's universal law is indeed correct today our lives are pretty much headed towards the internet....

Biggest Example is FACEBOOK :)

And 30 years frm now the nxt thing

[Corbon440]

@Chrislloyd00123

Except we're 35 years ahead now and everyone is still using a PC-type device, whether it runs on WIndows or Mac OS. And an iPad is just a netbook with a touch-screen.

[SuperSmashBros100]

ALRIGHT IT HAS BEEN 20 YEARS NOW.

[jtropeano]

Steve Jobs wins again.

[adnmoh1]

along w/ smartphones pc are no a dying breed wow predicted in this movie before its time

[lemonlimestiv]

its crazy how this doc was made just as the web revolution was exploding. what if bill could have peaked in the future and seen this doc on youtube?

[Stube437]

@lemonlimestiv If this came out in '96 then Gates and M/s were already fighting the 'browser war' so he knew what was important. Stranget thing about this programme is it doesn't mention Netscape!

[fewpeople]

This last part of the movie is extremely eerie and surprisingly prophetic. Even though this was created 15 years ago, it hints towards the Internet being the future of computing and the place where Microsoft would eventually be challenged in terms of dominance.

[pdynamics1]

The idea behind the thin client was an attempt to replace the PC & destroy Microsoft's illegal monopoly. It failed because people like to have their own data and cut/watch DVD's. Steve Jobs got it right by moving into the mobile computing market instead. Yes, it will not replace the PC but it will be complementary instead. And now look at Apple's success

[estibalizchmk]

I love being a geek and I love my Mac <3

[jossc]

Google

[OBSysteme]

@jossc my thoughts exactly.

[willrali]

Larry Ellison: wrong. Microsoft is the present and the future. Oracle is a dying duck. Their DBMS can only be milked for so long before cheaper solutions catch up. Poor old apple is looking good these days, though.

[androide81]

omg what a great material, thanks for posting!!!!!! Genius documentary, loved it!

[desiv1]

Well, I chose Amiga at the time. Never regretted that decision, even tho CBM (not Amiga Inc) proved to be the worst managed company in computer history. :-)

[heyandy889]

great videos, thanks for posting.

I'm really glad that the GUI was invented. I side with the Macintosh as far as using computers needs to be easy. Hopefully, interfaces become more and more transparent. By that I mean that you don't realize that you are using an interface. It would ideally be a link directly between thought and output. Consider an output, and it becomes reality. Like the Force.

[rezultwilliam]

thumbs up if you watched the whole movie

[Nikiz001]

@rezultwilliam I watched all 3 movies. All the 18 parts.. :D

[CyberDeadly]

Wozniak confirmed for coolest nerd of the show.

[5r22]

Imagine the lag you'd get cloud computing in 1995 over 56k modems... crazy Oracle

[jfizzay]

@KreaTivTechTV steve jobs is the phil helmuth of the computer world

[HelionDark]

great documentary and

idea of cloud computing is revolting to me in most part maybe good in backup

[livordie4eelam]

6:34 lol........rofl..........

[jt4life67]

Thumbs up if your watching this on a microsoft pc!

[Samthebam4044]

@jt4life67 I am on a windows 7 PC and even I fin cloud computing rather uncomfortable, not least because your trusting your data and creations to another company storing it on thier servers and say they go out of business some day next year! Then your absolutly f@cked.

[jt4life67]

@Samthebam4044 thats true but technology is always evolving, you can already create your own cloud and dont have to give any of your information to a third party vendor. I think its like any technology if theirs a demand for it there will always be fixes for those flaws.

[smirko]

isnt oracle dead?

[jt4life67]

@smirko no i think oracle recently bought a competitor data mining company

[theeponym]

@smirko No, Oracle is a massive multi-billion dollar company.

[upsidedownbin]

Very nice videos

[FastFreeLaptop]

Larry Ellison is an idiot. Gaming was already well on its way to mainstream popularity back when this was made. Today we have PC's that are more powerful than ever trying to keep up with state of the art graphics in modern games. Also what about Xbox360, PS3, and Wii? Did he really think that mainframe supercomputers and the internet would be able to deliver an immersive 3d gaming experience without internet lag to all the homes that use this very commonplace technology today? What a fool.

[DeadlyMACD]

@FastFreeLaptop

there are companies working on the ability to bring latency free cloud computing to our homes. If there successful it will dramatically change the types of internet connected hardware we purchase.

[FastFreeLaptop]

@DeadlyMACD You still won't see it replace dedicated gaming hardware for some time to come. Maybe when current level high end graphics cards can be integrated onto the motherboard. Maybe...

[TheChris4]

@FastFreeLaptop you will still render it on you local machine, (with for example WebGL) but all will be stored in the "Cloud"

[theeponym]

@FastFreeLaptop No, Larry Ellison is one of the few people in charge at that time that actually "got it" and was more or less right. No offence, but you're short-sighted and simply wrong. Today's tech and interaction via the Internet is in right in line with how Ellison saw the future.

[J4SONM]

It's been more than ten years since this was made... where's the follow-up? lol

[colemckelvie]

@KreaTivTechTV I reckon you're right

[colemckelvie]

lol so Steve Jobs comes up with a graphic based computer and Bill Gates steals it, Then Steve Jobs comes up with Pixar and Bill Gates backs the rip off studio Dreamworks? What a piece of human shit.

[Qualia]

@colemckelvie do not be so harsh,

remember that Steve stole the Gui idea

from Xerox...So thats a thief robbing a

thief^^

[jfizzay]

@Qualia its funny because jobs said he was shameless in stealing ideas, yet he is pissed when microsoft stole the proportaniate font spacing from apple?

[iDraw3G]

@colemckelvie Steve Jobs didn't come up with Pixar, he bought it from George Lucas

[y2mamatambien]

@iDraw3G He bought some algorithms from George Lucas... he didn't buy any academy awards. Pixar as we know it today is totally a Steve Jobs creation.

[platypusone]

@colemckelvie Wow if that really pisses you off that much, I suggest you turn the puter off, smoke a doob, and spank the monkey.

[thej762000]

Larry Ellison creeps me out. I get his idea of what now has evolved into Cloud Computing, but I don't enjoy the thought of being essentially a terminal to Larry's (or whomever) giant mainframe in the sky.

[Qualia]

@thej762000 i could not agree more.

What if in 20 years, no one will know or

be able to understand how a computer works,

except for guys like Larry Ellison. We

would be pretty fucked up then^^

[slightlyndifferent]

i didn't know Woz played the guitar, cool

[Mafia8998]

i can predict wat happens!!!

[AndrewFaulds]

@Trippple3 No, they didn't forsee Steve Jobs returning in 1998 after being fired.

Remember, this is 1995, Steve Jobs is no longer at Apple.

[iiTudy]

@AndrewFaulds It's 1997 when steve returns

[dwreves]

He's not too lazy to install an OS, his point is it's a waste of technology to not use it for your benefit. He's exactly right...why drive a car to go buy digital bits packed in cardboard when it can be sent via the net. Duh.

Cloud computing is already on our doorstep.

[brabon1]

ellison was right and wrong

cloud computing is great for biz...not so much for the individual user....although that is changing too

[ae86takumi]

isn't that what google is doing now?

[solidsnake1211]

Larry is a lazy fucker if he can't be bothered to install an operating system.

[g0dbel0w]

@solidsnake1211 The irony in his statements is the degree in rocket science required to distinguish and install what you need from the Oracle suite of products they've shoehorned together.

[BMeph]

@solidsnake1211

And yet, fifteen years later, Larry's still around.

Interestingly, he ate Sun, not MS.

...what's up with that?

[jrr0385]

@solidsnake1211 Maybe he didn't articulate it properly but basically what he is saying that is makes no sense to go through that whole process in order to download software when there is a much simpler solution available with the internet. It's not about being lazy but it's about putting together easier solutions for consumers, something you see in every industry. Plus, Larry was right.

[Vince2173]

The information appliance? Wii Internet Channel!

Although you do have to have a car, drive down to wal-mart, get a wii, download the Channel, and get it configured right, but it's a start.

[plasticPlaystation]

I would banga topanga

[marlls1989]

The software and information transference already is made all by the inet...

Try to have a computer without inet today, it is the same as a car without gas.

But still, I will never trust my files, OS, processing power to a third part...

You can use the inet to distribute the information, but still the processing of that information is better done at local...

Thinks like google docs will never catch... As it is unstable, limitated and unsafe...

But things like office live will...

[powerofstupidy]

Oracle was wrong... And no one knows them nowaday.

[untseac]

except for database managers =p

[fantasyfight123]

they weren't wrong but simply missed their chance...

i don't use their database for my web-apps but using the web as the os (only the basics on your pc) will become future even more than today!

[hugmaster4848]

I do, but only because they are firing my step-dad, who is an employee of Sun Microsystems, who Oracle bought. Fuck Larry, that ass.

[ivor31]

Great doco!

[godscuttingyoudown]

theirs a reason why the billionaires push for virtual products that the physical stuff in the story

just recently if you haven't bought a virtual product all rights are reserved and most companies reserve the right to deny you of your virtual product despite your purchase

unlike a physical product know ones coming in your house to take it away

this ideology is the beginning of the NEW WORLD ORDER a cash less society where they can close your credit account for speaking out

[dvamateur]

Okay, Digital Research was mentioned in the documentary. How about the home computer revolution? I guess home computer died (or did it)? Or the term "home computer" is different from "personal computer"? Digital Research made an os for Atari ST. How does the story of Commodore C64, Atari ST, Amiga, Amstrad, Sinclair, I mean, how do they all fit in the PC revolution? Okay, maybe there were too insignificant for mainstream, since the Atari ST was mainly a MIDI computer. Too insignificant?

[conan1845]

Wow Larry Ellison is a fruit.

As far as I know, The PC is still alive and kickin ..so much for the "information appliance" LAWL..

[gtochad]

the "information appliance" is very possible. it just hasn't been executed correctly yet.

onlive is a pc gaming service where all you need is just a small box and you effectively have a gaming pc (but thats just for games)

[CSIS25]

so was there any thing done in 2006 ?

[faiyez]

10 years later, and we are still stuck with Windows and Macs, disregarding the Open Source.

[personalgao]

lol so true... and the power of the internet.... still the boxes, the bytes on CD's and DVD's... the stores :P

[marcotmcom]

BTW, what the docu doewsnt say is that ditributed conputing was invented by the stanford university network or SUN, where applications run on mainframe and the users only had terminals way back in the seventies,

[marcotmcom]

great docu, i saw, the whole bunch, strange to see only 8000 of us did. Maybe were a bit alike here. Ahem..

[ElectricFridge]

Thanks for uploading this. Also, Bill was toattly right about the internet, Art, Pictures, Video etc.. On demand was correct. If you think that's wrong.. Youtube is a free on demand service.

[PCMechanic]

It's funny how there was no mention in this entire series of the TRS-80 or the Commodore 64 (world's best-selling desktop computer in 1982).

[ovar9k]

This series was about the PC revolution. They need to make a new one about the internet revolution.

[jalland]

They did, it's called "Nerds 2.0.1"

[adambb71]

Seems to me that Larry Ellison was way ahead of MS and Google with the idea of cloud computing.

[bullet50000]

i think larry ellisons Internet communicator idea didnt work, with the intro of the New internet Computer. look it up on google

[PurushaDesa]

Wow, that Oracle guy sounds like he'd love The Pirate Bay, where everything is decentralised and nothing is boxed in cardboard.

[evaangellus]

I want a Samurai mansion. :)

[jwd0808]

Ellison also at that time didn't imagine that Microsoft would create a Database platform that would rival Oracle. Now SQL Server 2008 is just as powerful and it's becoming increasing more popular. Ellison is probably regretting those ridiculous comments...

[jwd0808]

Ellison is clearly a smart guy, but without the PC, how is one supposed to connect to the internet in order to download anything? And what is the wire connected to? At the time of this interview, there was no digital cable, and definitely no TVs with built-in Ethernet. Also a PC is more than just an OS one picks up at the store in a box The amount of hubris he has is Insane.

[nfistfu]

i think he should have done the end bit in a delorian.

[NLS87]

lol, these windows 95 times, where people didn't eve had USB or broadband Internet are funny, no youtube, no social networks, no instant messengers, etc.etc.etc... Netbooks, internet enabled video game consoles, wireless networking, etc...

No OpenSource alternatives!

[Doyubi]

We've had social networking and to some extend instant messaging and online gaming with computers since the end of the 70's, before there was anything called World Wide Web. Look up BBS.

This documentary was good, but it leaves out a lot and gives too much credit to the bigshots (Mr. MS and Mr. Apple) of the 70's.

[ElectricFridge]

@NLS87 Back in 1995, online gaming was never thought of and if it was, dial-up would be useless. Social networking came later and you should be thanking the guys who came up with the internet. Computers were young now these days we have high standers of achievement . USB, IM's we're used till later. Technology was really young so portable computers and netbooks weren't made because of the limit of technolgy. Wireless couldn't be done as again, limit. If it wasn't for nerds, were would we be?

[mushymoonman]

Apple has made a dramatic comeback since then and Larry Ellison had a point for those days. Now you can buy software for download but there is still the boxed stuff at the store.

[jwd0808]

He also didn't take in to account the growing size of software, and bandwidth needed to download it in a timely fashion.

[alphonse01]

Mac is back. in 2008 mac sales grew twice as much as the PC. the iphone dominates the smartphone industry the iPod dominates the music player and iTunes sells more music thank anyone else.

[jwd0808]

Wishful thinking - actually Nokia is still the leader at roughly 40%, Apple is just barely at around 10%. Market share for the Mac is hovering right around 14%. With Windows 7 right around the corner, and the announcement that Snow Leopard will have really no new features, it will be really interesting to see what happens in the next year. Also, the ipod dominates, but it is slowly loosing market share, down to 71% - down from 82% in 2004.

[Vyggy]

2:11 isn't that the Microsoft BOB logo on his hat?

[compu85]

I think so!

[MarcoZ1ITA1]

Google predicted where internet went.

[UltimaChaosVincent]

Sweet Back to the Future reference at the end :)

[YamadaKeisai]

Why do I suspect that Larry Ellison could give a really good massage?

[g0dbel0w]

Because he presents himself as a homosexual?

[Maxfli82]

Wow, "apple is fading?"...How long ago

[toffuuu2010]

This happened just before Steve Jobs came back in 1997 to Apple. Apple grew even more ever since the iPod and Mac OS X so basically since 2000..

[myusfvids]

This movie was made in 1996. 12 years ago, I think Apple is a bigger player now.

[davethedude1234]

Apple's big money isn't from the their computers anymore though. Their cash cow is the iPod these days. I'm not saying macintosh doesn't exist anymore, just saying it's not Apple's most profitable product.

[goma3]

the next revolution is no surprise. It has already begun with Second Life.

[Headcrabb]

You mean de-evolution, right?

[venuecam]

nope. that was a miss as well. it's right under our noses... Social networking. One day you'll be paid to do it.

[jintomank]

thank you

[sbmrunning]

nice documentary, okay now its 2008! its already past ten years! how about an update!

[Emotionengne]

lol

[BobCassidy]

@sbmrunning i think watching this show on the net is enough of an update.

[kpoz12]

@sbmrunning Check out Nerds 2.0.1 -not quite a 10 yea update, but several years after this which chronicles the internet's rise.

[bharatkumargupta]

@sbmrunning the updates r things that we dont see in documentary of today, google dominates today's world, pc's are gonna be history, mobility etc n what not,its just media doesnt portray thes things at right time to us viewers, they ll show when profits will be made,sucked out !!Media did this shit, media labelled smart people as nerds lol,jerks u don hav to b nerd to be smart do u?

media,god bless media ,god bless educational blindness!

[sbmrunning]

@bharatkumargupta hmmmmmmm? pc's got a long way to go before they are history, until everyone gets really comfortable with the cloud, the pc desktop will be the centralized place to store all....i agree mobility is here to stay, but its not going to take the place of the home pc or the apple desktop computer. As far as the media is concerned, lol, we are the media! lol it reflects all of us. It gives us what it thinks we want, shifts when it doesn't fit and sits when it does fit.

[amadeusyaoi]

Ha! Spielberg is wearing a Microsoft Bob cap.

[DavidTheCatMedia]

That Larry Ellison guy is a semi-nut. I will NOT go back to the dumb terminal. However, M$ needs any competition it can get.

[djneo92nl]

i would love to meet steve jobs or woz or bill

[xExodeusx]

The future is wires?

How ironic now the future is wireless...

[morgs2020]

Although saying that wires still are the future. Common place fibre to the home will allow streaming of ultra HD video and a whole new breed of immersive VR applications.

[joesatube]

oracle makes databases. how in the world was that gonna get rid of the PC with an O.S.? The real upcoming collossus of the internet was of course google.

[edtronic]

ja ja ja ja well google..

[RockManAU]

Extremely interesting!

Thx

I am glad Woz ended up rich, seems to me he has a heart of gold.

[tasdau]

Thank You.

[JapeeMan]

Interesting story! Nice you uploaded the last ones. ;)

[jalland]

I agree! Crackmate sure looks like a decent guy.

[JapeeMan]

Yeah, but he dosen't want to subscribe on me ;(

[crackmate]

Hey dog, of course I will subscribe to you.

Done.

And to you, jalland: I already know I'm great. =) But thanks for reminding me.

[JapeeMan]

OK, but you don't wanna be my friend :(

[crackmate]

Of course I'll be your friend. Bastard. =P

[JapeeMan]

I love that shit dog