Fiveshot's Subtlety Rogue Preview

[kneckebro]

well at the end of the expansion it was the best spec

[zzOnlyOneZZ]

what do you use for recording videos? I use fraps but it is quite lagging and on Windows xp a can't record ingame sound

[2keeko]

lol fail troll rogue get owned

[LamentedxSoul]

Meh... Seen better (no offense), and the music is worse.

[xLink95]

@LamentedxSoul look at the date this came out >_>

[LamentedxSoul]

@xLink95 Sooo... The date this was made is totally relevant to the fact that I've still seen better? Yeah, I've seen BC montages and I stand with what I say

[natelamb231231]

man i don't think it's ever as easy to stay behind someone as you are in these videos. most of the people i come across actually fight back and don't just take a bunch of backstabs in a row.

[BeyondThaDeepWoods]

"at level 80 this will be the best spec"

Well you were wrong but at least sub is back for cata :D

[beastmode168]

@BeyondThaDeepWoods pretty sure he didnt say it was best, from what ive seen all he said is its funnest.

[BeyondThaDeepWoods]

@beastmode168 2:05

"at level 80 this will be the BEST pvp spec"

[musicforever154]

am i missing something here , dont seem to have seen any 10k+ ambushes which arehappening quite often when ever i go in bg`s ? even on my own rogue can ambush for 10k then backstab evic usually dead

[FpsOwns]

@musicforever154 check the date...

[hl31712]

@musicforever154 there level 70s and to do that u have to focus fire on 1 person then vanish to do it on another hes taking down 2-3ppl wuthout stealthing more than the 1st attack

[510luan]

nice video man

[bmiskills]

Well, now at 80 it is hell of a PvE and PvP spec ;D

[MiffMaster08]

Uh.. you are definatley not as 'amazing' as everyone is saying.. TBH im much better then you, or adleast from what ive seen in your video's I am.. But I levelled 1-80 Subtelty in Battlegrounds so ive had alot of experience :P

[yerge2]

@MiffMaster08

Prove it

[MiffMaster08]

@yerge2

I would if i had a cam

[narutorasengantube]

@MiffMaster08 free fraps download online..in game cam..gg

[Parkoree]

With the new patch and the messed up talent trees my level 30 rogue can crit 2.4k with shadowstep+ambush and I am sublety that's the only one to be

[XMONSTERPRODUCTIONX]

What weapons should I use? I want to keep dagger in main hand for ambush and what not. But off hand, should I use a mace? I know its supposed to be a fast off hand but two daggers just take too long to kill someone. Some one help!

[TheL4nce]

No such thing as flawless but this guy knows what the fuck he's doing. i like prep/mut myself

[mrpimpypimp]

what realm r u on

[EverythingIsDust]

@mrpimpypimp Hes on darkspear I would assume. 

[MrNeutralized199]

No I don't think they got nerfed I got a 45 sub rogue and I own with him u just gotta know how to play them

[kiesieweesie]

Could someone message me? I'm an upcoming rogue. My toon is 40 atm but I'm leveling him hard in subspec. However I hear alot of people saying that it's been heavily nerfed. Could someone explain the detail in a personal message and direct me to the most effective lvl 80 pvp spec. Thanks for any input guys.

[basser159]

its a fun spec specially when u 2 hit someone with ambush xD

[rune199414]

pretty awesome how fast u kill people and dont die when u have like 4% hp or something :D

im trying subtlety but i cant find the good specc (patch 3.3.5) can u please help me with the specc?

[Benhameen95]

May you help me regarding telling me the exact detailed talent tree you used in this vid? Oh and is it dagger main/ mace off?

[Benhameen95]

Can I get the spec and choice of weapons for a s4 human rogue?

[statistic90]

I didnt try that 30% extra on crit ambush at 80, but i have to say at 70 was da shittt (maybe a bit OP), u even could beat ret sometimes and they were a hell of op xDD

[statistic90]

They nerfed sublety cuz lethality (30% more critical damage) doesnt work anymore for ambush.

Fiveshot is right, witouth that nerf, subtlety best spec at 80 too :P

[BlEsTeR100]

how do you mean they screwed ambush...i crit whit ambush 6k and get 5 CP instant....its cool

[verostudios]

what addon do you use that lists the amount of damage you do / the name of attacks? fades them off and pops them up around you?

[verostudios]

Fiveshot, great video! Can you or anyone tell me what addon annoucne's your attacks damage / when a spell fades etc right off of you or your enemy?  the name just fades off, very nice!

[blindcheto95]

The video is great, full respect, Fiveshot. The song is good, too. :P

[ChopnStab]

i can say right now that i personally tried this spec on my rogue with an axe and sword and it was pretty beast still maybe not as good as it was in BC but still really fun to play with

[lich1717]

You've become animal. Control yourself!

[Truthfulkill]

for arena ye use it with evasion against fear

[gurkis369]

Could any one tell me does ghostly strike is good for pvp?

[Wowmaniac7]

then nerfed the shit out of sub thats how i level still but mut is no fun once a rogue gets a sertaight rating the nerf sub cause thats what most rouges used to areana with

[crahdol]

This song PWNS!!!!

[Alantir99]

Could you give link to your spec in this video?

[MrKillortryto]

I didn't realize the age of this song Until I saw it in this video.

god, as im commenting your fighting a lock thats horrible, hes just backing up, l2 fear unless you interupted, idk wasnt paying attention

[beastzthehunter]

This guy is the rogues answer to brang and swifty :D

[Wowmaniac7]

It still has great burst... yea mut is Op as usual in the omparasin of the 3 specs but id but my money on any sub that knows how to play that spec over mutilate anyday

[CompleteTomas]

epic!!!! u hit 4k into a clother NAIS!!!!: OOO

[Iwant10thDG]

this was really useful thanks. has anybody looked at this new pvp bot on wowcheatsYnet (replace Y with . ) ? its pretty awesome, ive got a level 80 hunter, shaman and priest with more or less complete pvp equipment thanks to it!

[angelsk93]

nice song

[Appocalips06000]

How did they nerf it? i can't tell the difference

[codyxcaution]

God DAMN It's nice to see a good rogue that is decent.

And by decent I mean not someone who goes "I'm an undead rogue lol that means im good lol"

Fuck.

[knife6151]

@codyxcaution lol what you just said about undead rogues is so true

[supercrazynoob]

hasn't sub been buffed again? and in your recent videos you've been Mutilate........NOOOOOOOOO

[autistikzombie]

subtlety is so fun...

[ithosef]

its good now hehe it was buffed agin! :) i missed it so much

[Ether165]

wow this guy makes even dying look cool o_o

[KitnKiller]

Not to be a dick or anything, but are there times when you ever die? XD Ha ha, good videos man. Also, on a serious note, if you don't get the opener on Subtley, do you usually die if you don't pop CDs?

[TacoWasHereX]

yeah he dies loses duels and gets owned. He isnt completely god, he makes flaws. Hes still my hero tho :D

[TheDarkHavok]

@TacoWasHereX There is no such thing as flawless.

[LordEthan2]

This is a level 70 vid? man that was the best spec.

[Pr0d00d]

What ANIMAL Fiveshot has become! ;) Idd, he's epic!

[RHCPforever7]

Sub is best spec horde ftw . I hit 3ks with good gear only level 63 no twink . All u need is 2 good daggers lol

[Soccerboy801]

At 0:50 The druid was like: Imma heal myself, Imma heal myself! OH HOLY **** A rogue....

[datsm3]

he doesn't know what bear form is obviously.

[adrianoricordatelo]

sub is an awsom spec, VERY fun to paly, he got a lot of cool ability (shadowstep, shadow dance), the only problem is that we u aren't in stealth u do shit damage. I wish that blizz made sub the main pvp spec intead of mutilate ç_ç

[oxidesdemon]

this is level 70 NOOBS

[okduda]

Lol i pwn ppl in multi much faster m8s

[Sw1fter]

"Multilate" .. Orly, o..rly..

[wazzup9933]

you can pwn in any spec just lurn to play it

[source707]

This is level 70. Subtlety was viable then. At 80 it isn't. Now please shut up about how you can own people in lvl 40-50 brackets, nobody has any resilience there, so it's not difficult. At 80 if you try playing Sub you will get owned flat.

[MrEcrillz1337]

@source707

Good comment, looks like there are still some Rogues out there that arent newfags.

[lvl70shampally]

/agree

[nofatuk6]

sryy sub > muti

[XH1VLTG3X]

@nofatuk6 more fun, but worse dmg/survivability imo

[guitarjanzeyhey]

this video rly shows how powerful sublety spec can be im a sublety rogue myself it's so fun to 2 hit ppl with ambush spam and every rogue who try to beat me gets a huge suprise when i shadowdance them

[MilesBennetDyson]

Enjoy your level 48 PvP while it lasts. Then respec Mutilate.

[guitarjanzeyhey]

to be honest my rogue is 75 and so far i find no problems with sub i just don't get your point

[NistorJmEn]

im full sub spec ;)) shadow dance ;) and i fuck every fool who thinks he can beat me with mutilate =))) and shots why do oyu use a mace? :|  dagger or first lad ;))

[Lawfuldragon94]

SUB 4 EVER!!!!!

[linkin1fan]

kinda sad at 70 with this spec it was great and looked to be the best but its really the worst a rogue was trying sub dagger and muti vs me his ambushes was up to 5k on 940 resi and muti was up to 5k total dmg :-/ and the rogue was relentles :( this build was pwn sucks at 80 :/

[TheNythen]

@CLEAANx

- He dosen't use any addons, and if you think about the little map.. Try out with Shift-M and it will apear. :)

[Martainia]

Aye.

I agree that Mutilate is possibly the best Arena spec, but SDance is easily one of the top in the broader pvp genre.

[POZDRAW]

hahahahah LOL @ 1:45 BADASS REFLEX WARRIOR TRINKET

[chicago85bearz]

What? That was kind of slow..

[POZDRAW]

saracasm on ;)

[chicago85bearz]

Oh was going to say.

[POZDRAW]

O___________O

[Elrion9]

2:07, This will be the best lvl 80 pvp spec.

How wrrrrrong u where fiveshot.

[wowmasterziya77]

it is the best spec

[Nefoshaman]

i think no Subtetly is the best specc for pvp because: shadowstep vs any ranged, Reduced Cd on preparaiton,shadowstep is better burst than everythinh(2ambus or silence without vanish)

[CLEAANx]

Please, send me addons PLEASE

[Kevlord22]

idk, for me this is the best spec :D More fun than the mutilate

[OWNeD887]

rofl, best pvp spec at 80 is 41/5/25

epic fail

[mrfancypanties]

@OWNeD887 best for Arena... not BGs. Pvp isnt just arenas

[wowmasterziya77]

no it isnt Hemo spec is best

[wowmasterziya77]

thats not the best haha your a epic fail

[maxxxxxxxen]

"At level 80, this will be the best pvp spec." Well, he wasn't to right about that, now was he? Still a hell of a video

[gregory06]

If they hadn't nerfed it, it was going to be :(

[maxxxxxxxen]

@gregory06 How did they nerf it? The 30 % dmg lethality nerf?

[Askedos]

I think they nerfed shs.Now u can't get out of frost novas and such things.

[baggens55]

@gregory06 im lvling my rogue as sub in ab and i have to say it kicks ass, i can take any1 out 1on1 even when they are 5+ levels higher than me, idk how it is at 80 though

[Jerppa95]

@gregory06 They are going to increase the damage of Sub rogues so I guess it will be op spec in Cata :D

[baggens55]

@gregory06 i am lvling a rogue in a sub spec in bgs, i can totaly dominate people with 6 lvl advantage

[JackYourNightwish]

@gregory06

how did they nerf it?

[Troxplayas]

@gregory06 what got nerfed on it ?

[RawrJbaybay]

@maxxxxxxxen

Try one now, then talk. = D

[z3248]

SS will allways be one of my fav specs

[thiaor]

how did you get this name: Hallowed?

[wowmasterziya77]

PvP Titel

[LE3ROYJENKINS]

damn that 2nd to last kill wen u had no life that was pure talent and damn was that fuckin sick nice vid

[ngflycloud]

currently lvling with subtlety, loving it, premeditation, shadow step and shadow dance all have very short CD, available to use in every fight.

[adefigeteapodonapate]

rly good..when you outgear by way other ppl and you have all yours CD vs some normall-i dont care,drinking coffe combat

[JosantDeath]

wats ur rotation??? and how u change so fast the bars of action when u go out the stealth???

nice vid (y)

[bhenmars93]

BC was moar fun =/

[shadowsfall711]

nice vid

[nachojj]

what is this song???

[cr17cr07]

aint good

[wowmasterziya77]

Song ? :) nic vid 5/5

[CristianHenri]

rogues are probably the best class blizzard have come up with

[rileydon14]

animal ive become

[takatoekoe]

song?

[matbjo95]

haha just got 2 say i thik u highestcrit in this video was 5011 thats my highest crit on my rogue 2 :D but what lvl u in ?

[mcpro09]

this was in lvl 70 with s4

[matbjo95]

haha u cant be lvl 80 ? but anyway it was impressive when u killed the 2 in a row :) maybe 3 if he didnt get help :)

[gregory06]

I said this was going to be the best spec at 80 because it was going to be and was until they nerfed lethality which made ambush totally useless in pvp.

[GrizzlyJOE103]

You mean lvl 85 with the new expansion coming out!!!  :D

[darkzarthroy24]

dude taurens beingh pallies sux they have 4 stuns

SoJ(still count as a stun) racial stun HoJ Repentance

[anern94]

Witch addon did u use? :D

[xXTwiggZXx]

why are u in s4 70 at 80?

[gregory06]

Cuz it's not level 80...

[xXTwiggZXx]

ahh thought i saw sum peeps with 80 gear sorrz

[TheFunPalace]

Wat weps are u using, im trying to dual spec sublety but i cant decide wat weps to use

[darkzarthroy24]

he has Sinister's Revenge in OH and his MH is Titansteel Bonecrusher im really not sure about the OH i think its that dagger

[Laotosh]

dont say Five is a noob or something when he said thats the best spec on 80 he said this before the many talent swaps and before other classes can kill easy a rogue when he don't make Stunlock

[mullen525]

you dont have to stunlock to be a good rogue, i barely stunlock on my sub rogue and still kick arse in 3.2

[elementjey1]

only reason this isn't the best spec at 80 is beacuse most rogues aren't good enough to get behind thier target

[iTr0ll]

Do you play a rogue? I hope not because you're probably terrible. It's so easy to get behind any class especially with stun and crippling poison.

Subscribe to my videos, you down syndrome child.

[boomvaltheras]

resonse to iTr0ll: cripple poison has no efect on your ability to rotate with your mouse so it doesnt make it easyer to get behinde them. =/

[pmdm0]

envy is a deadly sin my friend...

[Jj32pimpin]

Pro

[PipzusWowPlayer]

he had like 1 maybe 5 hp left and still owned that troll

[darkzarthroy24]

thats wat happens when u have no hit rating lol

[NightmaresIo9]

have a small random guess

[MiCkOwEnS7]

I still think it's funny how you said that this was gonna be the best pvp spec :P

[hstera]

yeah, cause mutilate is the best PvP specc lol

WRONG PREDICTION!

[solimta]

..Or maybe he said that so most people will reroll hemo and he'll be mutilate and just rape you all O.o

[ShoeMage]

He woulda been right if Blizzard didn't change most of the game mechanics and swap around all the talents.

[dirge10]

So funny not

[MiCkOwEnS7]

Lil late buddy, now go and play outside.

[dirge10]

Lold

[shamspel]

what talents you got ?in this film

[mangu809]

can i ask you a question.... if you have a sword on main hand... how can u do backstab... and ambush?

help me out plase... thx

[gregory06]

Cuz i didnt have a sword

[mangu809]

sooo... you think its not worth it.. using a sword with hemo?

[tinykaze]

hes not hemo specced .. lol

[usa1327]

hemo is best used with a slow weapon.

[RpgdUd3]

he was using season 1 dagger

[Frizer217]

no u cant -.-

[doomfist1337]

Ya, Amush/backstab subltey daggers is rape, aslong yo dont meet an arms warrior with his ass stacked out with resilence

[ZakanzSkadooshTD]

Lmao you just said ambush and rape in the same sentence.

[For54Ever]

what the name of the song ?

[HitmanG07]

three days grace - animal i have become

[xlxMaSoNxlx]

lvl 80 best spec is mutilate prep

[EastlakeLAX22]

41 / 5 / 25

EVERYONE has it D:

[z7999]

fiveshot doesnt have it 0o

[BobyCasasola87]

yea , everyone has it, its good to be different.

i play warrior, when everyone else was fury pre 3.1, i was arms, now everyone is arms i play fury :p

[wowGloob]

im lvling a rogue now, whats best posions and weapons for pvp?

[csecskristof]

well if u wanna burst its intant+heal reduce ( if ur mut, what u should, u got the slow up anyway) , but stil its not the best choise, now the best is mind-numbling+heal reduce

[MrPacmanJr68]

i prefer deadly and wound with talents when i apply wound it applies cripple too so thats nice to get 3 poisons on the target

[ZakanzSkadooshTD]

instant

[malikaw24]

lol I bet that troll hates you

[ZakanzSkadooshTD]

Wow If I hear one more video with this song again i will be seriously pissed.

[Nigtblade92]

Could u post build? Strange to keep in mind that ur using a S1 dagger ;P

[coolabam]

fiveshot pwns.

[josh2alterak]

im currently mutilate/prep for pvp which i prefer playing over sub i would like to try a CB/ST spec because shadow step would be usful for survival but trying to play shadow dance seems to compicated

[fiercebeast69]

ya cause they copied US...

[ChunkeymusicStudieos]

Ur guild u in is a guild on Nesinwary

[Linkedchainz]

english ftl?

[Kiljoypwns]

Mmm... you are in Darkspear right? [stupid question]

on horde isn't the guild Remnant still going on?