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@ChoppaDownMohawk Uhh yeah look there was the smoke billowing from the engine, which is shown in mikejwilson's video 911 Case Study: Pentagon Flight 77.
Then look above that wooden pole thingy and you see the tale of the plane pop out.
@Malliday Wait, if it did slide off the ground, why on earth wasn't there a scratch on the ground when they examined the place? And you still can't see what makes it a plane it just looks like a long metal object. And the explosion seems too small to think a plane hit it. The nearby hotels and buildings had caught everything on tape. But the FBI was around in minutes to consifcate the tapes.
This is a wide-angle fisheye lens, which distorts an image. With a fisheye on my DSLR camera I can be 5 inches from an object and the picture comes out looking as if I'm feet away. Not to mention, the airplane is coming in at an angle.
Also, some brand new audio recordings have Reagan traffic controllers in contact with a National Guard C-130H cargo plane that trailed Flight 77, watched it crash into the Pentagon, and confirmed to the air traffic controllers that the plan hit the Pentagon.
You all need to to stop arguing over if there was a plane or not from this shitty quality video. Base your judgement on the crash scene photos. I see no plane there.
If that is a "plane" at 0:25, it's pretty fucking small. Have any of you seen a Boeing 757?
The reason why people speculate that a "missile" hit the pentagon, was that the plane actually tilted to the right, because the plane's wings were clipped and damaged from the lamp posts around the area.
@twin1010101010 that message was sent 7 months ago, but now looking back i agree that it wasnt a plane cause it looks a bit stupid. Like how can it fly so low by a terrorist that didnt know how to fly.
Also dont say crap like I watch american idol because im actually helping you fight these things off. I am actually part of the Australian army
Is the only footage that is been published and no for nothing but because you see literally nothing. wake up people think for your self, no witnesses from the high way, just one footage in the entire network, no any plane lets any trail above 30.000ft missiles yes(and yes cruise missiles do create smoke) no plane found (why they pick up the plane fast as they say if they have nothing to hide) please guys look all over you how conspiracy around as 9/11, chemtrails, etc.
In my two cents, no plane hit the pentagon, it looked like a missile. If indeed a plane hit, it would cause more damage, more obvious skid marks on the grass and considering that there was a highway nearby, the cars would've been easily blown away for a "plane" to fly that low. Its also rumored that the "terrorist flying it" presumably never knew how to fly. This is just confusing bull....
as if a f*cking police car would just casually drive by, as if the policeman had no idea of the fact that something (supposedly a plane) was 15 seconds from smashing into the Pentagon. Total cover-up people.
the width of the hole the "plane" hit was 65 ft. A 757's width (from wing to wing) is 124 ft. how can a plane with that wing span only make a 65 foot wide hole? people say, oh well, the wings fell off before it hit. really? where's the pictures, where's the wreckage from the plane. And even if that holds true amd the wings did fall off.1: where'd they go and 2: why didnt the wings fall off when the two planes hit the towers?
at 0:25 you see the 'plane' that looks more like a missile in my opinion. what is also interestin is in the frame right after, you can see the trail of white smoke it has left behind. and no, that trail of white smoke is not from the resulting explosion either.
That is not a plane. Pause at 00:25 and see for yourself, a 77 flight, 757 airliner. That is a fucking huge plane, over 100 tons of metal. The engines alone weigh over 6 tons. The tail for the plane would be over 9 m high and would clearly show on this clip. It is not a plane. It in fact looks like a UAV. As the government are currently combining missile technology and weaponry into UAV vehicles to protect while scanning areas, I believe this was a horrible mistake, something went wrong and the
Its really sad that you people aren't aware that this is an inside job. It takes a fucking idiot to know it was. I recommend watching some Professor Griff videos, it has noting to do with this. But watch it some of his videos its on Youtube. Illuminati and the government planned this event out. One more thing, Barack Obama is not your president, he is with the Illuminati. He hasn't done anything yet, he is the same person as Bush. You can see him doing satanic symbols in some pictures of him.Pce
@nbalive1995 all of you just super experts who most likely doesn't even know what Boeing is and its capabilities. all just masturbate on idea of conspiracy when knowledge of it comes from children books. and you believe to people who just manipulate facts which once again you can not check yourself. wake up. they try to make a sensation by making you idiots and you still don't get a point
ive for years not believed the official story of a jetliner full of people but the more and more i watch this clip (the clip where the pillar is in the way ) i think i believe a plane hit.
my reasons are ...if you pause this clip and drag the bar over..you can see the tip of a tail section of a plane....it appears and dissapears so its definitly a plane in my eyes ..(im not an expert or shill just saying what i see)
@paul71393 Okay, how retarded does a human being have to be to think that's a plane? It looks like more of a missile. I mean, look at 0:25. Shouldn't the plane be like, massive? Compare the size of this "plane"vto the size of the fucking pentagon. Where are the two massive 6 ton engines? Where the fuck are the huge and wide wings? The American government expects us to belive this bulshit?
@Commentie you have to remember that the plane was going over 350 knots. And that the camera has a very low frame rate and exposure. There is no way for the camera to pick up the plane itself.
@joachim2464 if the plane crashed was it found? any tails or blackboxes....no!! it was a rocket launcher. the plane is so big that it could'nt have been missed out. and if it was a plane then why is there a hole in the pentagon and not a mark of the wings.......or engines or anything hun??????????
"you would think that the Pentagon would have a couple of hundred security camera's"
Why? Just give me one good reason for them, when there are armed guards at every entrance and guards roaming the perimeter lots.
Since anyone can drive into the parking lots or on the road less than 80 feet away, you morons should be able to show us lots of pictures of these cameras.
@SoulReaperGizmo "The government hides shit from us all the time. they know what hit them. "
So do we. A fucking American Airlines 757, which is why there was tons of debris at the site -- landing gear, wheels, struts, stabilizer assembly, and engine parts clearly belonging to a 757, identified in detail by aerospace engineers at AerospaceWeb.
Conspiracy freaks can fantasize about missiles -- which they know dick about -- but missiles blow shit OUTWARD & the columns were knocked INWARD.
There is no sufficient or well explained evidence for either side of the argument. Remain impartial, it is the best way. Remain open minded, thereby if anything is declared outright or abruptly surprising, we were indifferent. In today's world with stuff like this, and of the modern human mind, we cannot afford to take severe or drastic sides. We segregate and become narrow minded. Lets not.
frame in between 0:24 and 0:25 look just above the turn stile of whatever on the far right. Tail of the plane comes into view where there was clearly nothing before. then impact
This is the only shitty footage that is given free..you would think that the Pentagon would have a couple of hundred security camera's, but all we got is this shitty footage where you can't even see a damn plane
@Bossradamus the pentagon is huge, but airplanes are also really fucking big, and in this video i cannot tell the size or if its even a plane, this is doctored footage, fuck the government
smoke and plane come with this vid. tail fin in the sky line 25secs in. is this the a3 skywarrior i keep hearing about ? check the shadow aswell shaped like a plane spooky.
eyewitnesses in youtube who said ut was a militry plae which struck wtc and how ome thosse twin towers came down u asholke u hav any idea of that they said bcause of heta ashole steel melts at 2500+ tempreture and the temperature which came after that planes hit towers was max 500 answer this dude and after the fall of towers there in ruble which is atleast 2 feet high they get a passport which is
Steel loses majority of it's structural integrity at about 700 degrees, plus the impact of the plane destroying the support and the mass of the building made it collapse.
and has any1 notice that after 9/11 not even a single bomb got off in america tererrest attacks are taking place in every part of the world other than america
although. It's funny because there hasn't been one terrorist atack in australia. Only thing bad happenig in Australia is the occasional natural 'disaster.' eg, tornados and stuff. And when that stuff happans only like 2 people die.
plane my ass wat the fuck americans think that v r fool they r trying 2 tell they have only 1 video cmon guys the building they r talking about is pantagone the most secured building on earth and they r saying they have only 1 video bullshit i cant believe there r still sm americans who think it is not a consparicy
you are a fucking paranoid dumbass if you think they are conspiracys...the reason you dont see the plane is because the video cam is a slow motion camera.and the plane was traveling pretty fast..of course your not goin to see it..and yes exactly, it is the most secure building in the nation besides the white house thus meaning, they are not going to show all the cameras for security purposes..they do have home movies and eye witnesses that actually saw the plane..grow up
The police car appears in 9 frames. And the plane in only one so we can say that the plane was travelling faster than the car. The rest we all know. We even know the names of the people on the plane and give our condolences to their families.
ok, whether it was american airliens or not, our government completely stood down any attempts to stop these planes once they went off course. explain that.
Several reports from CNN and MSNBC confirm that the instructor who taught the class said Hanij was apathetic about the course, and was overall a terrible pilot.
so where did flight 77 go. really. with all the people on it.
It went to the pentagon. Why make the jet with its passengers DISAPPEAR and then fire a missile at the pentagon? Why not just let the hijackers crash it into the building, if they wanted it to happen?
btw if your about to reply then you're probably a retarded.
Most of the people that believe that bullshit have no evidence to support their theories and then ask you to believe it without question. Furthermore, there is no real point behind what they believe, except for you to doubt the government. That's just what our enemies want. For us to have dissention in our ranks. That's why stupid fucks that propagate this type of bullshit are unamerican.
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why dont u stop going through comments on youtube and shut the fuck up. apparently i posted that comment a year ago. it was a plane k. all u dumbasses who really think its a missile are retared. why? ok.. 1-mostly everyone who saw the explosion said it was a plane. and 2-explain to me what happened to the people who were on flight 77? if they didnt die crashing into the pentagon than where did they go? whatd they dissapear like magic? case closed asshole dnt bother me with this old shit anymore.
It was not a 747. I think it was a 757 or something like that. Much smaller. I think you are jumping to conclusions too early. We do not know in what angle the flight approached the building. And the video you are refferring to is simply not giving us enough details to tell weather it is a plane or not. It only shows a short part of the planes nose. The speed is high and a surveillance camera does notshow that many frames per second. That is why we don´t see the plane.
it depends on what angle the plane had when it came in. Also, you can not have that much knowledge of how much this planewas capable of because you do not have any similar accidents to compare with. Planes can in fact do stuff that they are not expected to do or built for. That is because they always have a safety marginal. Maybe it was a lucky shot, I don´t know. But there really does not have to be any marks from the plane on the grown if it never had any contact with the ground before.
it's still not possible that it can be a 747 or anything else , how can 6 tons steel and titan-alloyed turbines disappear?that object doesn't even have turbines,just a rocket drive,the object is also much smaller than a plane and IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR A PLANE TO FLY 2 FEET ABOVE THE GROUND WITHOUT THE NOSE POINTS 45° TO THE SKY BECAUSE THE LOWER BOTTOM IS 5 FEET UNDER THE "STOMACH" OF THE PLANE !! don't you get I'm a pilot,I know that,and i know what damage can make a plan 'cause of the simulation
look at 00:24 , a plance couldn't fly if it's so close to the ground...the gravitation is too strong for that...and did you've seen any big wings or WINDOWS on 00:24 or anything that shows that it's a plane...just because it's flying ? i wonder why there weren't any pieces of wings flying around
yeah but they rise the nose up because the heaviest part of the plane is the nose because of the cockipit and the machines,it's the center of a plan and also the heaviest part,that's the reason why you have to pull the rudder everytime,because the weight would keep the nose down ,and youre not able to fly straight 2 feet above the ground,believe me I'm a pilot of the Austrian Airlines,i have some experience with flying a plane and the simulations
oh yeah you can..the impossible thing is that you can fly a plane like a 747 that near above the ground at first because of the gravitation and the heavy weight of the nose,it's impossible to fly striaght like that without pulling the nose up and the second hting is that there's nothing on the lawn,seriously if a plane lands just near to you it throws you up to the air,it can take trees out of the ground if you just fly 10 feet above,but there's no damage on the lawn,no fire and no part of plane
If there was a plane crash, and it's scientifically impossible for jet fuel to melt, let alone vaporize steel, then where did the plane go? At least there are possibilities for your scenario.
well thats sums that up. Why only 2 clips of that side of the pentagon. I had more cameras at my high school, in Canada. Wow i thought that the us had good security.
that plane cant be 767 its way to small and when u see the pictures there is not any skid marks of it also its supposidly flied over the hoghway all of the security cAMREAS around the area were takin off by the FBI (hotel, highway and some burger place*
Too many people are talking about the Pentagon being hit by a missile. The Pentagon was hit by a plane. Witnesses saw it happen. It wasnt flown by Al Queda, it was remote controlled. The people who carried out the attacks have video of the event. They will release the video when enough people believe the missile theory. They will prove the missile theory to br false and by association all other theories will be weakened. Its psychological warefare.
i dont no anything but this video is slow and u can see that it skips half a second so you cant exactly see the plane that is coming at a fast speed, im not american so i dont no miles but yer ,
How did a cruise missle scatter plane debris and knock over all those light polls? If they wanted us to think a plane crashed into the building they could have just crashed a plane into the building.
it's not "flying" low. If you look very closely, you can already see the smoke/flames starting up before the building. The plane had obviously already driven into the ground and was skidding into the pentagon. That would have been the best way to ensure impact with the building. No chance to overshoot.
i dont understand the position of the camera.why is in that direction?its a security camera.why its pointing to the building?its in the entrance it has to point to the cars.
looks like a missile to me,if not a missile something very very thin, long with a perculiar stream of smoke trailing behind it.i dont believe whoever was flying the plane would have been able to get it that low at such s tremendous speed.Conspiracy.
I dont know what happened that day, i wasnt there. But i hate when people make up their own story just because of a lack of evidence in another story.
I can understand your opinion. I don't know if ther 's a conspiracy behind the 9/11 events (I hope there's not!) But it seems to me that the all truth has not been told on every point! And i just wonder why!
How do you know that FBI sent back all videos that has been confiscated? Have you seen these videos? the one of the hôtel and the one of the gaz station near the Pentagone)Why those videos are not on Utube?
In the official videos, pictures are missing... why?
If the government wanted us to think a plane hit the pentagon, wouldn't they have just flown a plane into it and get it on camera? The arguement here doesn't make sense.
ok synermartin ! You're right! But if a 757 had really crashed on the pentagone, why the governement doesn't show us the videos of the crash? it's a simple thing to do and the all story stopped!
There are only 3 videos of the crash. All 3 are on youtube. The companies that the f.b.i. confiscated the videos from sued them and won thier property back. Although none of the videos show much. No missile, no plane.
the best way to settle this would be for the FBI to release the 80+ videos confiscated from surrounding businesses....that is, if these videos still exist, after 6 years without being tampered with.
That white thing at 0.25? Thats not a fucking missile you retards, thats the smoke coming from the engine that struck the ground. Look at the triangle shape on the left next to it. *Thats* the plane.
Like BUSHMASTER50 said, " The ACLU is just there to block the governments cock from entering my ass, Quit meddling and allow this cock to enter" or something like that. You, mister are grander than our flag and I love you.
Alls I know is that the plane flying in the frame of The Beatles Abbey Road album near the crosswalk to the left of the bug was in itself profilettical and inconpinquitous as it pertain to cospiratological leanings
Look at the wiper fluid that squirts out of police cruiser at 0:11 driver is clearly remolified and convexed. Pure VOC......backwards my friends......Cover Up!!!
It takes metal 10 minutes to burn. The explosion is less than 7 seconds. 9 minutes and 53 seconds unaccounted for. Oh the humanity . Nut job, key fob, slob nob Bob Woodward!!!
the time it takes to check in luggage makes me even madder than this stuff. Suppose the WTC was an airport terminal and several agents identified missing luggage. Nobody is willing to talk about this. Even inflight video CLEARLY shows the planes attitude with i pronounced list to the left....Down and to the left.....down and to the left....AA will ask to to simply go about your day to day doings, would you like some peanuts???????
That was no plane... Missile maybe but that aint an aircraft of any kind that enters at 24 seconds. Plus for a 757 there would have been a far bigger explosion... take a look at the WTC collisions and you can compare.
Another thing that PART of the Pentagon was on fixing.. soo no ones was there.. isnt tha curious??? an empty araea of the pentagon... no blackbox.. not even a pieace of the airplane left
Mark Faram, writer Navy Times [made controversial American Airlines wreckage photo]:
"That was the only piece of wreckage of any size that I saw, but was by no means the only piece. As I stepped onto the highway next to the triage area, I knelt down to tie my shoe and all over the highway were small pieces of aircraft skin, none bigger than a half-dollar.
if you actually think all these stories are true, why dont you move? how can you live in a country you think would kill its own people like that? there are lots of other countries you can go live in. seriously. germans who hated the nazis fled to north america. ?
I do not think it was a plane it left to small of a hole especially due to the lack of damage caused by the wings because a plane cannot just dissapear in an explosion like that and there was not enouph left of what ever it was to be a passenger plane and the missing people however with the pentagon's security the more than likely would have scrambled jets before the damage was done to destoy the plane and pehaps part of the plane that remained was what caused the damage
that's all well and good, but be careful about making such statements without any evidence to back it up. Saying "memories were wiped using new technology" sounds paranoid, unless you have a credible source for such methods existing. It may be simply that the pilot knows what would happen if he talked or identified himself.
bullshit, ask any commercial airline pilot if they could bank a jumbo jet at 600mph then fly it 10 feet off the ground. and remember they guy who hijacked this plane was the worst stundent at the aviation school he attended. oh, and where was impact mark from the wings? the wreckage? (and don't try to link me that lame simulation it's just a fucking cartoon) how about witnesses? why aren't they all pouring forward to shut up us 'conspiracy theorists'.
i dont know whats worse, 9/11 itself or the people who made up/believe all this conspiracy crap. turning a terrorist attack against our own country and blaming it on ourselves...you dont deserve to be citizens of this country...yur witness statement doesnt make sense...if it WAS a missile, then y arent they trying to spread the news? makes as much sense as yur statement
So you DO deserve to be a citizen for blindly believing what your national leaders say, never questioning them? You are free to be critical of the President or anyone else in the government. That's the whole point of America.
If you do basic resesarch on the 9/11 attack, it doesn't take a genius to see the demo charges blasting down the towers, dropping them like flies. If it really was jet fuel, the building would probably have fallen over haphazardly - not into a neat little pile.
ok?...did nobody see huge chunks of debris falling off the tower before it fell? were like little firecrackers geniusly placed so it would look like tiny chunks fell?? did nobody see the building collapse on itself? or was explosives placed on the same floor the plane crashed into? if so then would the explosives not have gone off due to the large explosion? or at least been shifted around as a HUGE airplane slammed into the tower? show me the proof that there was explosives cuz i dont see any
So where are Barbara Olsen and the rest of the passengers who were on Flight 77 if this isn't their plane? And unless it's under perfect circumstances, one frame every half-second isn't likely to capture the image of a plane going what, 500 miles an hour? We were lucky to catch sight of the nose.
Shut up, everybody!!!
ooonora123 1 month ago
It would be simple to resolve the argument by releasing a lot more videos out oll those seized showing exactly what hit the pentagon.
Kill conspiracy stories stone dead
. but they dont dont do it.
Why?
Because the official story is bullshit and those seized videos are incriminating evidence.
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vianas01 6 months ago
At 0.25..Thats is definitely not a plane!
ChoppaDownMohawk 6 months ago
@ChoppaDownMohawk Uhh yeah look there was the smoke billowing from the engine, which is shown in mikejwilson's video 911 Case Study: Pentagon Flight 77.
Then look above that wooden pole thingy and you see the tale of the plane pop out.
A135S4656 5 months ago
@ChoppaDownMohawk You're definitely not a plane. Stupid!
smitty010493 5 months ago
@Malliday Wait, if it did slide off the ground, why on earth wasn't there a scratch on the ground when they examined the place? And you still can't see what makes it a plane it just looks like a long metal object. And the explosion seems too small to think a plane hit it. The nearby hotels and buildings had caught everything on tape. But the FBI was around in minutes to consifcate the tapes.
rockhardmann 6 months ago
This is a wide-angle fisheye lens, which distorts an image. With a fisheye on my DSLR camera I can be 5 inches from an object and the picture comes out looking as if I'm feet away. Not to mention, the airplane is coming in at an angle.
Also, some brand new audio recordings have Reagan traffic controllers in contact with a National Guard C-130H cargo plane that trailed Flight 77, watched it crash into the Pentagon, and confirmed to the air traffic controllers that the plan hit the Pentagon.
kennethlarsonfilm 6 months ago in playlist american airlines
You all need to to stop arguing over if there was a plane or not from this shitty quality video. Base your judgement on the crash scene photos. I see no plane there.
If that is a "plane" at 0:25, it's pretty fucking small. Have any of you seen a Boeing 757?
ShyRobot 6 months ago
i saw the plane,and ya can also see it explode before it hits
louisem3471 6 months ago
aint no plane you fukin sheep
rocwiler0 6 months ago
The reason why people speculate that a "missile" hit the pentagon, was that the plane actually tilted to the right, because the plane's wings were clipped and damaged from the lamp posts around the area.
burnmehdown214 7 months ago
@twin1010101010 that message was sent 7 months ago, but now looking back i agree that it wasnt a plane cause it looks a bit stupid. Like how can it fly so low by a terrorist that didnt know how to fly.
Also dont say crap like I watch american idol because im actually helping you fight these things off. I am actually part of the Australian army
MexicanHater22 7 months ago
Is the only footage that is been published and no for nothing but because you see literally nothing. wake up people think for your self, no witnesses from the high way, just one footage in the entire network, no any plane lets any trail above 30.000ft missiles yes(and yes cruise missiles do create smoke) no plane found (why they pick up the plane fast as they say if they have nothing to hide) please guys look all over you how conspiracy around as 9/11, chemtrails, etc.
johnagistri 7 months ago
it's everything but a plane.
Ale7it 8 months ago
If it was fake then how come there were lots of eye witnesses?
cloesworld 8 months ago
In my two cents, no plane hit the pentagon, it looked like a missile. If indeed a plane hit, it would cause more damage, more obvious skid marks on the grass and considering that there was a highway nearby, the cars would've been easily blown away for a "plane" to fly that low. Its also rumored that the "terrorist flying it" presumably never knew how to fly. This is just confusing bull....
thrashmetalfan85 10 months ago
how a plane flight so low, at 1 cm of the ground? Fucking bush, fuckin conspiracy
dieegotexeneize 10 months ago
Bullshit, a plane would be fucking massive in this shot.
bazerrem 11 months ago
That white thing on the right is a trail of smoke.
The plane is behind the box you can see the top of the tail above it.
sildowww 11 months ago
Looks more like a missile
612grego612 11 months ago
as if a f*cking police car would just casually drive by, as if the policeman had no idea of the fact that something (supposedly a plane) was 15 seconds from smashing into the Pentagon. Total cover-up people.
shackle5 11 months ago
the width of the hole the "plane" hit was 65 ft. A 757's width (from wing to wing) is 124 ft. how can a plane with that wing span only make a 65 foot wide hole? people say, oh well, the wings fell off before it hit. really? where's the pictures, where's the wreckage from the plane. And even if that holds true amd the wings did fall off.1: where'd they go and 2: why didnt the wings fall off when the two planes hit the towers?
16snwbrdr 11 months ago
at 0:25 you see the 'plane' that looks more like a missile in my opinion. what is also interestin is in the frame right after, you can see the trail of white smoke it has left behind. and no, that trail of white smoke is not from the resulting explosion either.
bestgrimbarianever 11 months ago
@bestgrimbarianever Maybe its the debris and dirt flying off the ground and airplane?
Alimbosa 11 months ago
@bestgrimbarianever Nice theory, small problem though. Cruise Missiles do not make smoke trails.
Go ahead and look it up for yourself. I'd link you to it, but youtube won't let me do that.
MrSomeguyV2 11 months ago
it DOES look a little small to be a 747
defenderofmacragge 11 months ago
That is not a plane. Pause at 00:25 and see for yourself, a 77 flight, 757 airliner. That is a fucking huge plane, over 100 tons of metal. The engines alone weigh over 6 tons. The tail for the plane would be over 9 m high and would clearly show on this clip. It is not a plane. It in fact looks like a UAV. As the government are currently combining missile technology and weaponry into UAV vehicles to protect while scanning areas, I believe this was a horrible mistake, something went wrong and the
butnutnum1 1 year ago
Its really sad that you people aren't aware that this is an inside job. It takes a fucking idiot to know it was. I recommend watching some Professor Griff videos, it has noting to do with this. But watch it some of his videos its on Youtube. Illuminati and the government planned this event out. One more thing, Barack Obama is not your president, he is with the Illuminati. He hasn't done anything yet, he is the same person as Bush. You can see him doing satanic symbols in some pictures of him.Pce
nbalive1995 1 year ago
@nbalive1995 all of you just super experts who most likely doesn't even know what Boeing is and its capabilities. all just masturbate on idea of conspiracy when knowledge of it comes from children books. and you believe to people who just manipulate facts which once again you can not check yourself. wake up. they try to make a sensation by making you idiots and you still don't get a point
dmtmir1971 1 year ago
ive for years not believed the official story of a jetliner full of people but the more and more i watch this clip (the clip where the pillar is in the way ) i think i believe a plane hit.
my reasons are ...if you pause this clip and drag the bar over..you can see the tip of a tail section of a plane....it appears and dissapears so its definitly a plane in my eyes ..(im not an expert or shill just saying what i see)
lonewolf2379 1 year ago
At 0.25 you can see the fucking plane look to the right it slid off the ground....
paul71393 1 year ago 12
@paul71393
That's not a plane. That's a missile
nbalive1995 1 year ago
@nbalive1995 are you fucking with us. where would that missile come from?
come on answer that
MexicanHater22 1 year ago
@paul71393 Yeah, and at 0:16 you can see the dancing bear in the left hand corner.
ShyRobot 6 months ago
@paul71393 Okay, how retarded does a human being have to be to think that's a plane? It looks like more of a missile. I mean, look at 0:25. Shouldn't the plane be like, massive? Compare the size of this "plane"vto the size of the fucking pentagon. Where are the two massive 6 ton engines? Where the fuck are the huge and wide wings? The American government expects us to belive this bulshit?
rockhardmann 6 months ago
This is bullshit !!!!!
tri2beatme 1 year ago
it was a little cesna ,nothing like a big jet ,911 was an inside job.
prponce007 1 year ago
Check out "Pentagon Attack Analysis Zembla Video"
gimme2utah1 1 year ago
@Commentie you have to remember that the plane was going over 350 knots. And that the camera has a very low frame rate and exposure. There is no way for the camera to pick up the plane itself.
joachim2464 1 year ago
@joachim2464 if the plane crashed was it found? any tails or blackboxes....no!! it was a rocket launcher. the plane is so big that it could'nt have been missed out. and if it was a plane then why is there a hole in the pentagon and not a mark of the wings.......or engines or anything hun??????????
furqanandmatt 1 year ago
"you would think that the Pentagon would have a couple of hundred security camera's"
Why? Just give me one good reason for them, when there are armed guards at every entrance and guards roaming the perimeter lots.
Since anyone can drive into the parking lots or on the road less than 80 feet away, you morons should be able to show us lots of pictures of these cameras.
Unless they're imaginary.
Show us, or shut the fuck up..
BlazingFerret 1 year ago
@BlazingFerret Because..The government hides shit from us all the time. they know what hit them.
SoulReaperGizmo 1 year ago
@SoulReaperGizmo "The government hides shit from us all the time. they know what hit them. "
So do we. A fucking American Airlines 757, which is why there was tons of debris at the site -- landing gear, wheels, struts, stabilizer assembly, and engine parts clearly belonging to a 757, identified in detail by aerospace engineers at AerospaceWeb.
Conspiracy freaks can fantasize about missiles -- which they know dick about -- but missiles blow shit OUTWARD & the columns were knocked INWARD.
SonsOfAzazel 1 year ago
any black box from the crashed plane?
xtramanx 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
"any black box from the crashed plane?"
Yup.
And it shows Flt 77 all along its flight path, then hitting the Pentagon.
Truther faggots just claim it's fake, of course.
I think they put their tinfoil hats on a bit too tight.
BlazingFerret 1 year ago
There is no sufficient or well explained evidence for either side of the argument. Remain impartial, it is the best way. Remain open minded, thereby if anything is declared outright or abruptly surprising, we were indifferent. In today's world with stuff like this, and of the modern human mind, we cannot afford to take severe or drastic sides. We segregate and become narrow minded. Lets not.
TheNadakan 2 years ago
frame in between 0:24 and 0:25 look just above the turn stile of whatever on the far right. Tail of the plane comes into view where there was clearly nothing before. then impact
TOMERRECTY 2 years ago
omg
TanWeiHou 2 years ago
This is the only shitty footage that is given free..you would think that the Pentagon would have a couple of hundred security camera's, but all we got is this shitty footage where you can't even see a damn plane
Bossradamus 2 years ago 25
@Bossradamus the pentagon is huge, but airplanes are also really fucking big, and in this video i cannot tell the size or if its even a plane, this is doctored footage, fuck the government
kingoffighterz 1 year ago
smoke and plane come with this vid. tail fin in the sky line 25secs in. is this the a3 skywarrior i keep hearing about ? check the shadow aswell shaped like a plane spooky.
dvalentino007 3 years ago
eyewitnesses in youtube who said ut was a militry plae which struck wtc and how ome thosse twin towers came down u asholke u hav any idea of that they said bcause of heta ashole steel melts at 2500+ tempreture and the temperature which came after that planes hit towers was max 500 answer this dude and after the fall of towers there in ruble which is atleast 2 feet high they get a passport which is
kevinsaby 3 years ago
Steel loses majority of it's structural integrity at about 700 degrees, plus the impact of the plane destroying the support and the mass of the building made it collapse.
xerxes106 3 years ago
and has any1 notice that after 9/11 not even a single bomb got off in america tererrest attacks are taking place in every part of the world other than america
kevinsaby 3 years ago
although. It's funny because there hasn't been one terrorist atack in australia. Only thing bad happenig in Australia is the occasional natural 'disaster.' eg, tornados and stuff. And when that stuff happans only like 2 people die.
OzzyPowers 3 years ago
plane my ass wat the fuck americans think that v r fool they r trying 2 tell they have only 1 video cmon guys the building they r talking about is pantagone the most secured building on earth and they r saying they have only 1 video bullshit i cant believe there r still sm americans who think it is not a consparicy
kevinsaby 3 years ago
you are a fucking paranoid dumbass if you think they are conspiracys...the reason you dont see the plane is because the video cam is a slow motion camera.and the plane was traveling pretty fast..of course your not goin to see it..and yes exactly, it is the most secure building in the nation besides the white house thus meaning, they are not going to show all the cameras for security purposes..they do have home movies and eye witnesses that actually saw the plane..grow up
cj0515 3 years ago
go ask anypilad its literly impossible bto bang a plane 10 feet above ground which is coming at the speed of 600 mph and there are many
kevinsaby 3 years ago
you mean the idiot kid whose dad is a mechanic? That planes can't fly 10 feet off the ground, but yet they can land.
taledarkside 2 years ago
they say it fell from the hijackers pocket waooo sweet passport came down wen the plain colides in the building waoooo j
kevinsaby 3 years ago
Don't drink the bong water dumbass. Stupid conspiracy theorists
xerxes106 3 years ago
Check out 0:25 second. Small, white object in the right side. Is that plane?
It's look like missle!
Alexbarry101 3 years ago
check out 0:26
cellsebas19 3 years ago
The police car appears in 9 frames. And the plane in only one so we can say that the plane was travelling faster than the car. The rest we all know. We even know the names of the people on the plane and give our condolences to their families.
JoaoAtLondon 3 years ago
ok, whether it was american airliens or not, our government completely stood down any attempts to stop these planes once they went off course. explain that.
avd007 3 years ago
The simplest explanation is usually the correct one
Choungui 3 years ago
FUCKING STUPID AMERICANS believing that bullshit(not all of them)
do they really want me to believe there ain't some other (normal) cctv footage of the pentagon
THE FUCKING PENTAGON???????\
DOESN'T HAVE SOME BETTER FUCKING CAMERA'S ????
for everyone believing the U.S governmont GO THINK..... FUCKING THINK YOU FUCKING IMBECILS
catbakkorrel 3 years ago
Several reports from CNN and MSNBC confirm that the instructor who taught the class said Hanij was apathetic about the course, and was overall a terrible pilot.
Musicosm 3 years ago
so where did flight 77 go. really. with all the people on it.
It went to the pentagon. Why make the jet with its passengers DISAPPEAR and then fire a missile at the pentagon? Why not just let the hijackers crash it into the building, if they wanted it to happen?
btw if your about to reply then you're probably a retarded.
cowofthemonth 4 years ago
cowofthemonth,
Most of the people that believe that bullshit have no evidence to support their theories and then ask you to believe it without question. Furthermore, there is no real point behind what they believe, except for you to doubt the government. That's just what our enemies want. For us to have dissention in our ranks. That's why stupid fucks that propagate this type of bullshit are unamerican.
jrusso7660 3 years ago
that's why it was done by a 757.
BRsox333 4 years ago
wow, nice job, cool pilot, they prove it that america is not superpower :D
win5655 4 years ago
so prove it dipshits
sbchamps99 4 years ago
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Thisizmyname 4 years ago
u still didnt tell me what happened to the misssing passengers u fuck tart. ur such an asshole get a life. im done.
Thisizmyname 4 years ago
why dont u stop going through comments on youtube and shut the fuck up. apparently i posted that comment a year ago. it was a plane k. all u dumbasses who really think its a missile are retared. why? ok.. 1-mostly everyone who saw the explosion said it was a plane. and 2-explain to me what happened to the people who were on flight 77? if they didnt die crashing into the pentagon than where did they go? whatd they dissapear like magic? case closed asshole dnt bother me with this old shit anymore.
Thisizmyname 4 years ago
It was not a 747. I think it was a 757 or something like that. Much smaller. I think you are jumping to conclusions too early. We do not know in what angle the flight approached the building. And the video you are refferring to is simply not giving us enough details to tell weather it is a plane or not. It only shows a short part of the planes nose. The speed is high and a surveillance camera does notshow that many frames per second. That is why we don´t see the plane.
SuperLilleman 4 years ago
I mean the lower bottom of the turbines
hybridhelix88 4 years ago
it depends on what angle the plane had when it came in. Also, you can not have that much knowledge of how much this planewas capable of because you do not have any similar accidents to compare with. Planes can in fact do stuff that they are not expected to do or built for. That is because they always have a safety marginal. Maybe it was a lucky shot, I don´t know. But there really does not have to be any marks from the plane on the grown if it never had any contact with the ground before.
SuperLilleman 4 years ago
it's still not possible that it can be a 747 or anything else , how can 6 tons steel and titan-alloyed turbines disappear?that object doesn't even have turbines,just a rocket drive,the object is also much smaller than a plane and IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR A PLANE TO FLY 2 FEET ABOVE THE GROUND WITHOUT THE NOSE POINTS 45° TO THE SKY BECAUSE THE LOWER BOTTOM IS 5 FEET UNDER THE "STOMACH" OF THE PLANE !! don't you get I'm a pilot,I know that,and i know what damage can make a plan 'cause of the simulation
hybridhelix88 4 years ago
look at 00:24 , a plance couldn't fly if it's so close to the ground...the gravitation is too strong for that...and did you've seen any big wings or WINDOWS on 00:24 or anything that shows that it's a plane...just because it's flying ? i wonder why there weren't any pieces of wings flying around
hybridhelix88 4 years ago
ok then how do planes land? they are flying 2 feet above the ground before they land you dumbshit
slugger9203 4 years ago
yeah but they rise the nose up because the heaviest part of the plane is the nose because of the cockipit and the machines,it's the center of a plan and also the heaviest part,that's the reason why you have to pull the rudder everytime,because the weight would keep the nose down ,and youre not able to fly straight 2 feet above the ground,believe me I'm a pilot of the Austrian Airlines,i have some experience with flying a plane and the simulations
hybridhelix88 4 years ago
whatever that was, that wasnt the 747 Flight 93, capable of carrying 200+ passenger.
So fellow, smart americans, or should i say pigs of your so called democratic government, WHERE IS THE PLANE?
yes you will be killed like pig, if your gov want to.that is what is democracy in USA
Rigent 4 years ago
It was not a missile. I don´t believe that you can fire a missile at ground level like that.
SuperLilleman 4 years ago
oh yeah you can..the impossible thing is that you can fly a plane like a 747 that near above the ground at first because of the gravitation and the heavy weight of the nose,it's impossible to fly striaght like that without pulling the nose up and the second hting is that there's nothing on the lawn,seriously if a plane lands just near to you it throws you up to the air,it can take trees out of the ground if you just fly 10 feet above,but there's no damage on the lawn,no fire and no part of plane
hybridhelix88 4 years ago
that was not an airplane
Amoon3 4 years ago
it was a missle, at 25 yo can see the dust the missle picked up behind it.
tobigforyou 4 years ago
At 25 sec's you can see the craft clearly, but it dosn't look like a plane. Its curly. When it hits you can see what appears to be a wing (at 31 sec).
Two other things I see ..maybe someone could explain.
What happened to the date and time display?
And how come this camera clicks a pic every second, where the other one is every 10 or 11 seconds?
KeggysUtube 4 years ago
Check out: UCAV
alleyghost 4 years ago
If there was no plane crash, then where did flight 77 go? I imagine it flew into space and dissapeared?
studmitchmuffin1 4 years ago
If there was a plane crash, and it's scientifically impossible for jet fuel to melt, let alone vaporize steel, then where did the plane go? At least there are possibilities for your scenario.
Raspute 4 years ago
well thats sums that up. Why only 2 clips of that side of the pentagon. I had more cameras at my high school, in Canada. Wow i thought that the us had good security.
Apollo232007 4 years ago
i agree with paulocbn, i get to be jesus though.
danbranclark 4 years ago
if thats a plane i´m the pope
paulocbn 4 years ago
that plane cant be 767 its way to small and when u see the pictures there is not any skid marks of it also its supposidly flied over the hoghway all of the security cAMREAS around the area were takin off by the FBI (hotel, highway and some burger place*
kavuthedark2005 4 years ago
Too many people are talking about the Pentagon being hit by a missile. The Pentagon was hit by a plane. Witnesses saw it happen. It wasnt flown by Al Queda, it was remote controlled. The people who carried out the attacks have video of the event. They will release the video when enough people believe the missile theory. They will prove the missile theory to br false and by association all other theories will be weakened. Its psychological warefare.
The whole truth movement will be damaged.
killthebanks 4 years ago
i dont no anything but this video is slow and u can see that it skips half a second so you cant exactly see the plane that is coming at a fast speed, im not american so i dont no miles but yer ,
abc3021 4 years ago
Wow...
I remeber this one, but I am proud that, that one plane crashed in a valley, not the White House. God Bless!
BlakeMan443 4 years ago
How did a cruise missle scatter plane debris and knock over all those light polls? If they wanted us to think a plane crashed into the building they could have just crashed a plane into the building.
tsycear 4 years ago
planes cant fly that low
flangemad 4 years ago
it's not "flying" low. If you look very closely, you can already see the smoke/flames starting up before the building. The plane had obviously already driven into the ground and was skidding into the pentagon. That would have been the best way to ensure impact with the building. No chance to overshoot.
bobbyz2000 4 years ago
have u ever heard of landing?
07acs07 4 years ago
When landing You don't fly 500 Km/h...
clauzii 4 years ago
i dont understand the position of the camera.why is in that direction?its a security camera.why its pointing to the building?its in the entrance it has to point to the cars.
ayumisangel 4 years ago
no that is most deffinitly a plane.
maccoyledotcom 4 years ago
looks like a missile to me,if not a missile something very very thin, long with a perculiar stream of smoke trailing behind it.i dont believe whoever was flying the plane would have been able to get it that low at such s tremendous speed.Conspiracy.
wilde33 4 years ago
I dont know what happened that day, i wasnt there. But i hate when people make up their own story just because of a lack of evidence in another story.
synermartin 4 years ago
I can understand your opinion. I don't know if ther 's a conspiracy behind the 9/11 events (I hope there's not!) But it seems to me that the all truth has not been told on every point! And i just wonder why!
azzo13 4 years ago
How do you know that FBI sent back all videos that has been confiscated? Have you seen these videos? the one of the hôtel and the one of the gaz station near the Pentagone)Why those videos are not on Utube?
In the official videos, pictures are missing... why?
I have no answers, only questions...
(Sorry for my bad english but I m french)
azzo13 4 years ago
If the government wanted us to think a plane hit the pentagon, wouldn't they have just flown a plane into it and get it on camera? The arguement here doesn't make sense.
synermartin 4 years ago
ok synermartin ! You're right! But if a 757 had really crashed on the pentagone, why the governement doesn't show us the videos of the crash? it's a simple thing to do and the all story stopped!
azzo13 4 years ago
There are only 3 videos of the crash. All 3 are on youtube. The companies that the f.b.i. confiscated the videos from sued them and won thier property back. Although none of the videos show much. No missile, no plane.
synermartin 4 years ago
the one who says that there's a big plane on this video is a liar!
azzo13 4 years ago
and the one who says there's a missile on this video is a liar!
synermartin 4 years ago
the best way to settle this would be for the FBI to release the 80+ videos confiscated from surrounding businesses....that is, if these videos still exist, after 6 years without being tampered with.
Treezum 4 years ago
ur an idiot. This flight was american 11. american 77 crashen into the WTC
vanbeezzy 4 years ago
no it wasnt jackass
pumpkinghost 4 years ago
watch the show united 93. They say 11 hit the pentagon. If it is wrong i'm sorry. bit i'm just going off the movie i watched that day.
vanbeezzy 4 years ago
That white thing at 0.25? Thats not a fucking missile you retards, thats the smoke coming from the engine that struck the ground. Look at the triangle shape on the left next to it. *Thats* the plane.
Vengashii 4 years ago
the engine struck the fucking groung? then why the fuck were their no "marks" or "drag marks" on the fucking groung?
mattujun 4 years ago
At 1:45 a badly burned person (or a black security guard) points to the second cone...black....cone...blone...blown as in blown up
diktater 4 years ago
Like BUSHMASTER50 said, " The ACLU is just there to block the governments cock from entering my ass, Quit meddling and allow this cock to enter" or something like that. You, mister are grander than our flag and I love you.
diktater 4 years ago
Alls I know is that the plane flying in the frame of The Beatles Abbey Road album near the crosswalk to the left of the bug was in itself profilettical and inconpinquitous as it pertain to cospiratological leanings
diktater 4 years ago
Look at the wiper fluid that squirts out of police cruiser at 0:11 driver is clearly remolified and convexed. Pure VOC......backwards my friends......Cover Up!!!
diktater 4 years ago
It takes metal 10 minutes to burn. The explosion is less than 7 seconds. 9 minutes and 53 seconds unaccounted for. Oh the humanity . Nut job, key fob, slob nob Bob Woodward!!!
diktater 4 years ago
the time it takes to check in luggage makes me even madder than this stuff. Suppose the WTC was an airport terminal and several agents identified missing luggage. Nobody is willing to talk about this. Even inflight video CLEARLY shows the planes attitude with i pronounced list to the left....Down and to the left.....down and to the left....AA will ask to to simply go about your day to day doings, would you like some peanuts???????
diktater 4 years ago
PLEASE! PLEASE! People..there is a saying.."don't confuse me with the _facts_..my mind's already made up! See below:
Please..go to the following site:
iangoddard dot net/pentagon.htm
Then try and repost the BS that's circulating! God help us all: The downfall of modern man, brought about by the sheer ignorance of the masses!!!
OttoJg14 4 years ago
pause at 0.25 it looks like a missel
greamlin13 4 years ago
That was no plane... Missile maybe but that aint an aircraft of any kind that enters at 24 seconds. Plus for a 757 there would have been a far bigger explosion... take a look at the WTC collisions and you can compare.
djthe1st 4 years ago
Another thing that PART of the Pentagon was on fixing.. soo no ones was there.. isnt tha curious??? an empty araea of the pentagon... no blackbox.. not even a pieace of the airplane left
calvinxchange 4 years ago
that is NOT an A/C did u saw the size of it!?!? plus the other video.. u can see clearly only a pointy object entering at 1:27.. not an airplane NOSE
calvinxchange 4 years ago
Mark Faram, writer Navy Times [made controversial American Airlines wreckage photo]:
"That was the only piece of wreckage of any size that I saw, but was by no means the only piece. As I stepped onto the highway next to the triage area, I knelt down to tie my shoe and all over the highway were small pieces of aircraft skin, none bigger than a half-dollar.
kokororyu 4 years ago
I thought missles go like 300 or 400. But whatever.
Thisizmyname 5 years ago
uh.. that plane looks REAL LOW... like almost to the ground!
traceeavila 5 years ago
its a plane not a missle...u can see the tail of the plane, and besides that, i dont think missles go that fast, i mean the plane was goin 500 mph.
Thisizmyname 5 years ago
i think plane can't reach 500mph at low altitude
MANUELMATIAS84 4 years ago
yea it can...
Thisizmyname 4 years ago
thats not a air plane look close u can see something white thats looks like a missle
migman29 5 years ago
if you actually think all these stories are true, why dont you move? how can you live in a country you think would kill its own people like that? there are lots of other countries you can go live in. seriously. germans who hated the nazis fled to north america. ?
jfk1976 5 years ago
I do not think it was a plane it left to small of a hole especially due to the lack of damage caused by the wings because a plane cannot just dissapear in an explosion like that and there was not enouph left of what ever it was to be a passenger plane and the missing people however with the pentagon's security the more than likely would have scrambled jets before the damage was done to destoy the plane and pehaps part of the plane that remained was what caused the damage
ufobill84111 5 years ago
are you serious!?
..have you looked at the photos from the site. Its clearly an Airline Crash Site.
OceanKid 5 years ago
the missile you see in the video is a StandOff Land Attack Missile (Slam) that was fired from an F-18
Hornet, which was launched from the CVN 74 John Stennis covertly. This was done to further the oil
grab agenda in Iraq. The crew of the ship and the F-18 pilot cannot recall this as their memories were wiped clean using new technology.
Takkyon 5 years ago
that's all well and good, but be careful about making such statements without any evidence to back it up. Saying "memories were wiped using new technology" sounds paranoid, unless you have a credible source for such methods existing. It may be simply that the pilot knows what would happen if he talked or identified himself.
pulmonq2 5 years ago
thats not a airplane never
erektion 5 years ago
bullshit, ask any commercial airline pilot if they could bank a jumbo jet at 600mph then fly it 10 feet off the ground. and remember they guy who hijacked this plane was the worst stundent at the aviation school he attended. oh, and where was impact mark from the wings? the wreckage? (and don't try to link me that lame simulation it's just a fucking cartoon) how about witnesses? why aren't they all pouring forward to shut up us 'conspiracy theorists'.
thevillainm 5 years ago
i dont know whats worse, 9/11 itself or the people who made up/believe all this conspiracy crap. turning a terrorist attack against our own country and blaming it on ourselves...you dont deserve to be citizens of this country...yur witness statement doesnt make sense...if it WAS a missile, then y arent they trying to spread the news? makes as much sense as yur statement
krispykreme82603 5 years ago
So you DO deserve to be a citizen for blindly believing what your national leaders say, never questioning them? You are free to be critical of the President or anyone else in the government. That's the whole point of America.
If you do basic resesarch on the 9/11 attack, it doesn't take a genius to see the demo charges blasting down the towers, dropping them like flies. If it really was jet fuel, the building would probably have fallen over haphazardly - not into a neat little pile.
pulmonq2 5 years ago
ok?...did nobody see huge chunks of debris falling off the tower before it fell? were like little firecrackers geniusly placed so it would look like tiny chunks fell?? did nobody see the building collapse on itself? or was explosives placed on the same floor the plane crashed into? if so then would the explosives not have gone off due to the large explosion? or at least been shifted around as a HUGE airplane slammed into the tower? show me the proof that there was explosives cuz i dont see any
krispykreme82603 5 years ago
i so agree wid u man
i feel da same way
chandigarhia 5 years ago
So where are Barbara Olsen and the rest of the passengers who were on Flight 77 if this isn't their plane? And unless it's under perfect circumstances, one frame every half-second isn't likely to capture the image of a plane going what, 500 miles an hour? We were lucky to catch sight of the nose.
marinermama 5 years ago