Roger Gracie vs Ronaldo Jacare in 2004 Mundial part 1

[Rawforce30]

hahahahahahaha!

0:40 i laughed so hard here xD 

[alinbjj]

are any prize money in bjj tournaments? for example this one, how much did the winner earned?

[kanguesso]

@alinbjj Not much, at least not from Jacare's perspective. There is an interview where he complains about not getting much from BJJ in terms of financial benefits. He had won this tournament and didn't have enough money to go board a plane to go back to his home town. I don't really know how true that is but that is what he said. That is one of the reasons he got into MMA. The Gracies of course don't need MMA per se. They can make money just off their names in BJJ.

[TheG1NGAN1NJA]

These vids always have a shit picture!

[1608Nikolai]

My god will people on youtube find any excuse to argue?

[lambariAMD]

7 people dont do jiu jitsu

[itopian]

BJJ is really a dominant martial art. thats without the striking so how much more if the fighter adds striking in his skills? then its MMA. you have to respect BJJ

[jthetrackr]

Look at UFC, are there any straight up PURE JuiJitsu guys who have been champ lately aside from BJ Penn who's more of a boxer these days? Look at the past/current champs

HW - Lesnar, Velasquez

LHW - Shogun/Machida/Evans

MW - Franklin, Silva

WW - Hughes, Serra, GSP

LW - Penn, Edgar

I see guys in there with black belts in JuiJitsu but only Serra and Penn would be considered guys who started off as a pure JuiJitsu, but they aren't anymore, they're trained in all aspects now and there's a reason

[estafuego8807]

@jthetrackr just to let you know dumb ass serra GSP  silva machida are all black belts in jiu jitsu dumb ass.

[JackTheRipher1989]

@estafuego8807

OMG THEY DO!? Yea, you missed Shogun and Rashad Evans too. And VeIasquez has brown, Edgar has purple, Franklin has brown. Thanks for letting me know.

"I see guys in there that have black belts but Serra and Penn would be considered the guys who started off as the only true PURE JUIJITSU guys but Penn is a more of a boxer these days."

Call me a dumbass but you can't even read. You're a fucking moron dawg.

Point is gotta train in more then one. Just BJJ aint gon get u champ.

[HERESJO0NNNY]

@JackTheRipher1989 Tell that to Chael Sonnen, or even Fedor, what about Big Nog guess he wasn't that good at Pride either since he was a BJJ guy

[flarenum1]

@HERESJO0NNNY Fedor did Sambo..

[estafuego8807]

@jthetrackr and i know i didnt have oto say bj penn id hope you arent that retarded

[pcjudosambo]

I agree with Jacare, why should he go back into his guard at 0:50? This is a very bad rule in BJJ. Pulling guard sucks as a rule now this... horrible! Jacare could have slammed Gracie onto his back in the beginning of the match when Gracie pulled guard (in MMA or street fight), so because of this they should have stood them up. IMO

[machmud1337]

@pcjudosambo

Except they aren't partaking in MMA or a street fight.

[MrCreepy92]

@pcjudosambo I'm pretty sure slamming is illegal in BJJ.

[pcjudosambo]

@MrCreepy92 yeah, a bad rule. I understand the slamming part but if you picked your opponent off the back, they should restart the match from standing (just like they do in Judo and Sambo) because in a real life fight OR MMA, a person being lifted off his back will be slammed. So they should NOT slam but at least make it more street realistic and stand both of them up.

[nobbytang]

there no doubting that on the ground with a gi on BJJ is very very good but stood up trying to throw theres a great deal of crouching which then puts you open to knees etc so a good mma fighter would exploit this particularly if he was wearing just a tee shirt . as for self defense then one on one rarely happens in the UK as most fights breal out in the bars / pubs and the last thing you would want to do is go to ground when surrouded by 20 males fighting . road rage being the exception 1 on 1

[Theartofthemark]

THis is awesome. 

[serguei92]

TRADUÇÃO DA CONVERSA:

00:46 seg.

Vai no papai e mamae ?

Não mano, papai e mamae e coisa de iniciante.

00:55 seg.

Se tu não for no papai e mamae eu brocho.

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Zoas - eu tambem luto JJ !

[ericssson]

Come on you black pussy

[macaubjj]

The more BJJ tournaments I watch the more I appreciate what Jacare was able to do. Even not liking his style very much have to say that he his probably the best ever. Fill free to disagree.

[pcjudosambo]

@macaubjj he does not like to go into peoples guard, that is a good strategy and a style. This style is very similar to Judo and Sambo. I think Jacare's style of BJJ and Judo (he is a black belt in both) and avoiding guards is more self-defense realistic than other BJJ guys who are more Sport BJJ based. Jacare utilizes his Judo to throw people around (watch his other fights) and he avoids guard, he like to go for quick submissions ... I actually like his style.

[bostonalext]

roger should have won this fight because jacare broke his arm...and when there is an injury like that, the referee has to stop the fight. it is the same as submitting.

[kullander15]

why was the crowd booing in the beginning?

[bostonalext]

because roger laid down, to continue the fight with jaca in his guard..the crowd didn't like it because roger pulled guard when the fight was already out of bounds.

[Raphael73407]

Luta de jacaré,o tempo todo por cima!

[evpereirajunior]

a guarda 50/50 q na revista gracie, os mais antigos criticando q serve p amarrar a luta... então roger merecia a derrota, pois ficou nesta posicao por mais de 3 minutos. amarrando jacaré.

[jiujiteroaju]

BRAZILIAN JIU-JITSU!

[buchechajj09]

Bora Jacaré !!

[bjjartist]

back escape to leglock control by Roger. Gotta see that step by step.

[hladnopivol]

May seem guly to watch but when u know the technique of grappling and BJJ u can see a brilliant fight between two incredible fighters

[eliasjiujitso]

agora o árbitro da luta não teve peito pra desclassificar o Jacaré!!!

[blaze886]

just cus you learn a certain fighting style doesn't determine your victory, just cus your really strong doesn't determine your victory either, it's the same with any physical attribute. A true fighter can adapt to every opponent, every situation, every environment..."when water goes in the cup, it becomes the cup. Be like water". Bruce lee

[AkramMMA13]

You're right, although what would happen if Bruce Lee got taken down or was put in a triangle choke or rear naked choke? His style never really trained against ground fighters. If you bring Bruce Lee versus Relson Gracie, you should know that Relson has the greater chance of winning.

[blaze886]

that's what everyone thinks, but if you read bruce lee's work then you'd know that he specialised in four forms of combat...Punches, Kicks, Grappling, and Trapping!...Bruce lee is the greatest fighter alive...and personally i think Rickson Gracie would stand a better chance

[sachamord]

alive????

[blaze886]

my bad lol i shoulda said "to have ever lived"

[mettal7]

u can bet ur ass bruce lee would adapt groundfighting into his system. hes the first to preach about using wat works and only wat works. hes probably the first mma fighter

[JJTecumseh87]

yea right

[fcs77]

he did,a see a photo with lee doin a arm bar...

[sachamord]

youre retarded

jiujitsu rocks

you hacve to punch or kick

but us , we use the best thing , we grapple

[kingtwenty20]

damnstraight hommie.. thats how we do.. thats how we roll.

[amarall15]

Ele amarra a luta pq quebro o braço

[Bjjownsu10]

And this is not judo.

[elguapoalso]

I still can't buy the assertion that this post is anything other than a pathetic attempt at trolling.

Fuck off.

[iva39]

roger é o kra + foda do jiu e sub já tirou varios tops pra nada.pra ganhar dele só com pontinho e amarrando

[diegosmash]

com pontinho e amarrando? vai tomar no olho do seu cú rapa... roger quebrou o braço de jacaré ele nao bateu... e mesmo assim continuou lutando ... Jacaré mostrou o que realmente eh ser um lutador de jiu jitsu...

seu prego filho d aputa

[Cecabreu]

È nítida a superioridade do Roger, o Jacaré amarrou (para não dizer fugiu) a luta para ganhar por pontos. Quem é malandro usa malandragem. E você... muito palavrão.

[Snegawn]

particulamente gosto muito do jaca mas ele realmente amarra a luta depois que pontua, foge literalmente do combate e é muito difícil alguém finalizar o roger.Resumindo concordo em número gênero e grau com o que vc disse(inclusive sobre os palavrões)

[MPA2000]

You don't have to buy it, simply challenge any of us who practice jiu jitsu or submission grappling. We can make you a believer.

[tonydiet]

@MPA2000 thats right men boa bjj parabems

[jthetrackr]

@MPA2000

Also in the beginning of MMA the reason JuiJitsu was so successful and conquered all was because no one really knew much about it so no one had training for it. That's how Royce destroyed all the bigger, stronger wrestlers and strikers. Nowadays you can't just be trained in only JuiJitsu and win a MMA match because strikers train to counter JuiJitsu moves, just like JuiJitsu guys train to counter strikers nowadays. Fighting has evolved man, you can't be so close minded......

[MPA2000]

@jthetrackr grow up.

[jthetrackr]

@MPA2000

Did I say anything rude? Or did I write an intelligent and informed comment? I'm 21. I bet you don't even do JuiJitsu just watch videos on youtube and talk shit and think you're part of the gracie family. How about you grow up and get out of your little fantasy world that your martial art is the best. News flash every martial art has its flaws and that's why people cross-train in more then one. I'll cum in your moms mouth and make her french kiss ya sister so they can both taste me

[vincespell]

@MPA2000 IT IS NAIVE TO BELIEVE THAT JIU-JITSU WINS ALL THE TIME AND IT DOESN'T! IT HAD A GOOD RUN FOR A WHILE BUT NOW WITH THE ADDITION OF MUAY THAI AND BETTER BOXING SKILLS, NO JIU-JITSU HAS A HALF THE CHANCE IT USED TO HAVE, CHUCK LIDDELL WON ALL HIS FIGHTS WITH BOXING, RAMPAGE, COUTURE, NICK DIAZ BOXES YOU TO DEATH FIRST THEN WHEN YOUR DOWN HE SUBMITS YOU BUT NO ONE HAS BEEN ABLE TO GET PAST HIS BOXING AND THAT'S HOW HE WINS THE MAJORITY OF HIS FIGHTS ALTHOUGH HE IS A GREAT SUBMISSION ARTIST

[MPA2000]

@vincespell No need to shout. Turn off your caps man!

[spleenbuster]

you dont have to buy it. watch any fighting combat sport. jiu jitsu wins nearly every time.

[jthetrackr]

@spleenbuster

But that's the thing my friend. It wins in combat SPORT. What about the original, true essence of japanese martial arts? To defend yourself against those that would harm you... 1 on 1 it's great but what about in a street fight where 3 men try to jump you? Are you going to flying armbar them all one by one? Put one in a triangle choke? No, you can't, his friends will stomp your head while you try. Don't get me wrong, I'm on this video because I love JuiJitsu. But lets not brag.

[aridavidpaul]

@spleenbuster I'm a big fan of BJJ, but it hasn't done great in MMA in the last 5 years. For example, BJJ black belt Frank Mir loses to wrestler Brock Lesnar. BJJ black belt BJ Penn loses to wrestler Frankie Edgar. BJJ legend Antonio Noguiera loses to wrestlers Phil Davis and Ryan Bader. Palhares loses to Marquardt, Maia to Silva etc. As far as I can tell, none of the top 3 guys in any UFC division has a BJJ base. BJJ is weak from the bottom when faced with elbows and slams.

[spleenbuster]

@aridavidpaul you can't be serious. GSP - BB. Silva - BB, Aldo - BB, Shields BB, and every single fighter in MMA trains jiu jitsu. this isn't even a discussion that can be taken serious.

[aridavidpaul]

@spleenbuster It's MMA, everyone trains everything...The point is that guys who emphasize BJJ are losing to guys who don't. GSP was Karate then wrestling. Aldo has a Muay Thai base and won with a submission once out of 18 wins (and lost to a submission once). With Shields you're half right - he had a wrestling base but added BJJ early. Anderson Silva has a muay thai base. He's won by submission twice out of 28 wins (and lost to submission the same number of times).

[spleenbuster]

@aridavidpaul i guess BB dont train seriously. i will note that. and when silva's feet were to the fire by a wrestler, jiu jitsu is what came through. i am not doggedly sticking up for jj here, i just feel you are very off base.

[mark5287]

@aridavidpaul aldo is a black belt in jiu jitsu and was at a very young age and competing at a high level in his teens son

[alinbjj]

@aridavidpaul all of those fighters are you telling us about are training in bjj, come on, dont be an ignorant, what is the best style to defend yourself on the ground? the answer is bjj.Even if lesnar is wrestling base, did you think he is not training in bjj? of course he has.

[aridavidpaul]

@alinbjj Everyone trains in everything. The point is it seems you're better off spending your life wrestling and doing a little BJJ and boxing on the side if you want to succeed in MMA. In a fight between a superstar wrestler with blue belt BJJ and a worldclass BJJ guy with a couple hundred hours of wrestling, the superstar wrestler wins.

[elguapoalso]

@aridavidpaul And where did you pull that declarative statement from exactly? There are plenty of examples of great wrestlers with JJ knowledge falling to elite BJJ fighters. The most recent example is Trever Prangley losing (badly) to Roger Gracie. Prangley has superb wrestling ability and a lot of MMA experience and Roger made him look like a complete amateur. Old school BJJ on full display. Fighters with the highest level of JJ skill are always dangerous for ANY opponent.

[aridavidpaul]

@elguapoalso Okay, so you counter my 5 examples from top level MMA competition with 1 example of your own from mid-tier competition. To review: BJJ black belt and HW beltholder Frank Mir loses to wrestler Brock Lesnar. BJJ black belt (and previous BJJ world champion) BJ Penn loses to wrestler Frankie Edgar. BJJ legend Antonio Noguiera loses to wrestlers Phil Davis and Ryan Bader. Palhares loses to Marquardt, Maia to Silva etc. The best BJJ guys lose to the best non-BJJ MMA fighters.

[elguapoalso]

@aridavidpaul I used the Prangely fight not for the outcome but more for the manor in which he lost. I think it's easy to poke holes in the premise of your argument actually. Maybe not so easy to to it within the 500 word constraint of youtube though. It's just a baseless supposition that you've provided. Picking certain outcomes in the UFC is a weak foundation. And fact that you consider Mir to be among the best BJJ fighters in MMA only further proves you don't know much about grappling

[lukeeteee]

mermãão..

se é de jiu-jitsu que tão falando..

quem comanda é o Amazonas..

o//

[Bundao123]

ei cara mas o jacare ganhou do roger em 2005 denovo vai querer questionar depois dessa. roger e o caralho

[JiuJitsuislife]

isso não devia valer.

[jtigity]

lol jacare will beat ur ass.

[RemainsOfTheUndead]

Jacare the fag! Roger rules man!!!

[Bundao123]

o jacare e melhor na queda mas o roger sabe se defender das finalizaço~es melhor

[Narutonando]

jacare e melhor..

[vodkamike]

Jacare was playing with fire the way he was positioning himself in Roger's guard. He was in a difficult situation with a guy with such long legs. Put yourself in Jacare's place, what would you do in Roger's guard?

[Agtren]

Those guys are masters of bjj, but this was boring and unimpressive.

[kalikaputra]

Thats what happens when two high quality guys meet thing tend to get very technical and calculating (boring).If you would spar one of them it would be "cool" but whats the use,do you further your knowledge?

[therealgeeza]

Agtren, you must now watch part 2 of this match. And you will then realise that this is just part 1 of one of the greatest BJJ matches ever fought. i never imagined i would ever see such courage and determination. inspiring!!!!!

[crystalnrich]

Yea, boring...until they snap your freakin' arm in half. Then it's not boring anymore.

[mettal7]

in a street fight, the police will come before an arm even comes close to breaking.

in a riot grapplers dont got a chance

[crystalnrich]

I box as well, but I can do a little damage before the po po gets there. Unless they are standing less than 50ft away. In a riot I would never go to the ground, but I have never been in a riot, and neither have you.

[sachamord]

bullshit

an arm can be destroyed in maybe 10 seconds

[judopathoftruth]

50/50

[PrairieKDog]

yeah because there have been MMA fights ended in less than 10 seconds with armbars....any well trained BJJ practitioner could break someones arm LONG before police even knew there was a fight going on

[Agtren]

I said it was boring to watch, not that they didn't know how to fight. If you can't tell the difference, keep your mouth shut please.

[kalikaputra]

What is your standard of impressive? Real fast and easy wins? then that means one guy is always better than the other. I prefer watch evenly match fighters,you learn more.

[fcs77]

classic of classics!thanx!!