George Galloway again Celebrates the Release of Murderers

[gfdgerhehrhe]

the 1000 political prisioners arn't Murderers. Ta-dah I just made a empty claim like you did. Empty claims meing nothing.

[GallowayWatch]

@gfdgerhehrhe people who murdered civilians and proudly admit it can not be described as political prisoners by any stretch of the imagination

[warpedcomedy]

@gfdgerhehrhe These "political prisoners" are collectively responsible for the deaths of 569 Israelis.

[011jaffa]

"Political prisoners", Ha??? they are prisoners "with blood on their hands" and

no country in the world would switch 1 soldier (who was kidnapped not in battle! his kidnappers came like thieves by night, the cowards) ! for 1,000 prisoners ( the statistics is that 75% will murder again)!!!

[011jaffa]

You said it Galloway, the prisoners were "political prisoners", every country in the world when attacked by so much evil (with blood on their hands) would have kept them in prisons! But no country in the world (but Israel would have paid such a high price,releasing 1,000 murderers (the statistics is the 75% of them will murder again), for 1 soldier (who was kidnapped, and not captured in a battle, the cowards came like thieves in the night)! Now we will have more bloodshed and kidnappings...

[CBfrmcardiff]

@MrLumierdujour , you're right, he's basically wrong, that the Jewish rise in numbers 1917-1948 was mainly immigration, the smaller Arab rise mainly 'natural'(ie.fewer deaths). However, Jewish population in Palestine was ALREADY 1/6 in 1917, and only 1/3 in 1947. So there may have been Jewish-majority towns in 1914, perhaps Tel Aviv was one of them.

[CBfrmcardiff]

Pardon me, the question was asked by LumierDuJour. The point is, that BY THE SAME STANDARD, even if you don't oppose Palestinian 'freedom fighters', many of these released prisoners are ALSO war criminals - and far worse ones! Both in numbers murdered, and in nastiness of method. Remember the girl that used the internet to lure a lovestruck Israeli teenager to torture+death? If you denounce Israel for using smoke grenades, but celebrate that woman, then you're sick.

[CBfrmcardiff]

It seems Mr Galloway-Watch is deleting comments more than a day old? Weird. @Mr Dardacha, you asked me if I would denounce Israeli War Criminals? Yes I will. HOWEVER, I won't denounce all Israeli's as inherently being war criminals, only the ones who commit crimes.

[KumarZimmerman08]

I'm not even English and i hate this worthless cunt.

[moonstarshadow]

Galloway is friends with our enemies, a traitor, plain and simple.

[teudatoleh]

FUCK YOU GALLOWAY.

[raultalbot7]

Galloway is a tool of the palestinian propaganda machine. Here's hoping he goes the way of Awlaki....no tears here if he does.

[CBfrmcardiff]

In his tweets, the twit calls them POWs, but on Presstv he calls them "political prisoners".

Can't he distinguish.

Also, even IF you accepted terrorist murder of soldiers, police+officials as "warfare", wouldn't the murder of many Israeli civilians make many of these people WAR CRIMINALS? Revealingly, the Palestinians themselves make no distinctions.

[MrDardacha]

victory to Hamas.

hope the released freedom fighters will resume the resistance against the zionist occupation.

[BeatNinjaz]

@MrDardacha So your definition of a Freedom Fighter is someone who deliberately targets unarmed civilians who have nothing to do with Israeli politics? I call them cowards. Worthless, brainwashed, dirty cowards. No such thing as 'occupation' anyway you amoeba brained tool. Try reading up about the Palestine Mandate. You will soon learn that Jordan is the Palestinian home but Jordan went back on their agreement and turned their back on the Arab refugees. Another example of Muslims hurting Muslims

[MrDardacha]

@BeatNinjaz

no my definition of freedom fighter against occupation is fighting against armed settlers who came from all over the world to expulse palestinians from their homes and occupy their lands and who are always armed and who serve in thezionist army who use white phosphorus weapons and killed 300 kids and 400 women.

i have to read hundreds of books to show you the zionist crimes.

[BeatNinjaz]

@MrDardacha Seems like the only book you're reading is '101 ways to be a sheep'. Firstly my uninformed man, check the mandated land given to Israel and see that 60% of that was arid desert / wasteland. Secondly check the British Mandate Census which shows that Jews were always the majority in the current Israeli cities like Tel Aviv, Haifa etc and in fact it was ARABS that came in their hundreds TO Israel to work for the Israelis. Do your research first. If u want an intellectual drubbing, reply

[lumierdujour]

@BeatNinjaz

most of arab countries have 60 or 50% of desert where live bedouins (not empty) and even if it is empty nobody have the right to occupy it. the refugies must return to their homes and the zionist must return to their countries. if the zionist demand politelly palestinians can let them live in the empty parts in desert if palestinians want it. the british occupation have no right to give the land to zionists.

[BeatNinjaz]

@lumierdujour No you are confused. Like I said. Check the British Census for Palestine over the years and you will see ARAB immigration to the major Israeli cities. Besides anything else, The Palestine Mandate, as protected by Article 80 of the UN charter gives Jews the right to ISrael AND the right to setlle in Gaza and the West Bank. I don't see you calling for Jordan to renounce it's statehood when it was born out of the same mandate and is made up of 80%+ Palestinians? Hypocrite...

[Mrlumierdujour]

@BeatNinjaz

article 80 of what?

immigration to palestine was jewish, and the British occupation gave the Balfour promise (Arthur James Balfour) to the european zionist organizations to let them immigrate and create a jewish state in Palestine! you can't deny this!

all your arguments based on false british allegations are not accepted (read the belfour promise to see why.

it was a great conspiration.

7 /9 of your presidents was born in Rusia and Europe! majority?! stop lying to yourself

[Mrlumierdujour]

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and more than 90% of you prime ministers was born out of "Israel"

you will not find any thing like this in any country in the world, this prove that what you are saying is false.

there was huge jewish immigration to palestine under the british occupation according to Belfour promise.

this is how you created jewish majority in some cities in Palestine to justify the creation of the zionist entity!

don't lie to yourself

[BeatNinjaz]

@Mrlumierdujour "article 80 of what?@ the UN charter as I said in my post. I've seen the Balfour Decleration. Why do you contest the nature of Israels existence but not Jordan, Syria or Iraqs? Hmmmm? I bet you don't champion the 850,000 Jewish refugees rights of return? Hmmm? My arguments are based on facts, they are not just false cos YOU say so. Ad Hominem attacks don't work on me numbskull. Like I said, go read the British Mandate Census to see the demographics in Palestine.

[Mrlumierdujour]

@BeatNinjaz

to British mandate documents there was always majority of palestinians in palestine and there was wa great immigration of jew zionist especially from Europe to Palestine.

i'm for the return of all zionist jews to their countries of origin, yes.

[oc00011]

@Mrlumierdujour there were many migrants of jews AND of arabs. majority of palestinians today aren't for palestine, very, very few are from palestine. "palestinian" was a term defined as the indigenous/native JEWS and arabs of the *region* (not country) palestine. u can find this in ANY newspaper from ANY country from 1950s & earlier. 77% of the land palestine is now jordan, an arab palestinian state. less than 23% to the jews. everything i wrote here is *fact*. realize it & move on.

[Mrlumierdujour]

@oc00011

judaism in not a race it is a religion, there is chinese jews, ethiopian jews, arab jews etc.., the majority of palestinian jews was arabs and the majority of palestinians was arabs, jews was a minority in the region of palestine and this is a fact you can realize it in british mandate documents.

the zionist illegal migration is a fact the zionist terrorism of arab palestinians and the stole of their lands is a fact you can read the Ben Gurion journal to realize it.

and now-->

[Mrlumierdujour]

you can't deny that the zionist entity continue the building of settelement on occupied territories in AlQods and continue to trensfer palestinians from their homes in AlQods.

[oc00011]

@Mrlumierdujour [continued] ..not "occupied", its "disputed" territories. its been jew in history & its been arab.

'zionism' = 'the national liberation & self-determination of the jewish nation in their homeland'. arabs hav self-determination in homeland arabia (& in many other people's lands), blacks have it in africa, indians in india. here's some who don't hav this: kurds, armenians, jews (=but now we hav israel. & we fuckin NEEDED it), assyrians, copts, palestinians, berbers, phoenicians.

[oc00011]

@Mrlumierdujour mr, i don't need u to tell me what is a jew. its not a race, but its not primarily a religion. its a nationality, a culture, a nation - 1st & foremost. 2nd, a religion. btw not "arab jews" its "mizrahi". both jews & arabs went there illegally, but for jews the country was made legally! after decades of *peaceful* diplomatic struggle. NOT like the PLO. SOME jews stole arab land, SOME arabs stole jews land. 472,000 arabs left, 850,000 jews were forced out their homes in arab land..

[Mrlumierdujour]

@oc00011

what you are saying is false, judaism is not nationnality, it is a religion. there is arabs, chineses and africans converted to judaism, zionists organized huge movement of immigration to Palestine for jews from all over the world to stole palestinian (jews, christian and muslim palestinains)'s lands and to make them refugies. Ben Gurion admited it in his journal.

jews have never been forced out their homes in arab lands there was imigration organized by zionist organizations read..

[Mrlumierdujour]

..read Naeim Giladi "the jews of Iraq".

[oc00011]

@Mrlumierdujour look up "the jewish nakba', yes arabs forced 850,000 jews out of their homes. don't tell me its not true if you don't know about this subject. it makes me angry to find out i'm debating with an arrogant, ignorant bigot. i hope you're not one. i am jew, & u have the audacity to tell me what my people are. the jews are a nation, the religion comes secondary to that. this is fact, so don't try refute it. many of gurion's journal entries are 100% fabricated, also fact. ask questions.

[Mrlumierdujour]

@oc00011

i told you that israeli historians like Naeim Gildi who was iraki jew (arab jew) say that zionist organizations push them to leave Iraq and to come to Palestine, jews was not forced to quit arab lands and another evidence about this is that the zionist entity haven't contested any expulmsion of jews from arab lands.

hebrew is race but jew is not race. it is a religion i told you that there is a black jews and there is chinese and arab jews!! i hope you aren't ignorant bigot or stupid

[oc00011]

@Mrlumierdujour interestingly enough u didn't ask questions. i'll educate u a little. gildi is stupid. "hebrews" were jews in judea, also a word often used for "israelites". "jews" means people of judah (yehuda), an israelite leader. "israelites" means people of the man called 'israel' who was also named joshua (son of isaac). the kingdom of Judah (jews) & israel was a NATION STATE. it was also intertwined with a common religion & shared culture, values, philosophy etc. jews are a nation kid.

[oc00011]

@Mrlumierdujour [continued] ...regarding the forced expulsion of the mizrahi jews (calling them 'arab' is a confusion of semantics, ur in a dialogue with me here) by the arabs - you must read about the history on the subject before making your claims because you heard it from an al-jareera-sponsored anti-zionist jew. i'll start you off by recommending an informative factual documentation on the matter: 'The Case of the Jews from Arab Countries: A Neglected Issue' by Roumani. enjoy.

[Mrlumierdujour]

@oc00011

what about the jews converted to christianity and to islam? according to your false definition of the word 'jew" are they jews? who told you that the zionist nowadays ahve any realtion with the hebrews of judah? you arguments are weak kid.

i have never heard Naeim Giladi in aljazeera i read it in several israeli history books there is other hisraeli historian who tell us about the zionist imigration to Palestine like Ilan Pappe, Noam Chomsky, Dr Finkelstein. enjoy

[oc00011]

@Mrlumierdujour i hav read pappe, chomsky & finkelstein. as clever as they are, ALL of them are politically-motivated, biased as hell, & hav been proven to 100% fabricate events in israel-history books (especially finkelstein) & heavily distort others. at least ur not disputing Facts about the persecuted mizrahi jews any more. congrats. regarding converted jews, yes they're still jews if they identify themselves as such. absurd question. is a french catholic persian still persian?

[oc00011]

@Mrlumierdujour [continued] ...obviously not a direct analogy but u get the point. the zionists/jews have relation with the jews of judah / israelites of israel (whichever way u wana put it, both the terms refer to the same people, living only 1 generation apart). that relation is 1 of cultural memory, way of life, literature, philosophy, & for some, religion. with genetics, some jews are genetically related, some not. but the cultural aspect - gaining citizenship to the jewish nation - is core.

[Mrlumierdujour]

@oc00011

ou can you are so confused! i have said and proved that arab jews have not been persecuted and have immigrate to the zionist entity because of the zionist organization actions and you can check zionist methods deployed to let them immigrate from Iraq and from other arab countries you can check it in Naeim Giladi's book (may he is another politically motived israeli jew!!

cultural and way of life relations don't give you the right to steal palestinian lands! otherways. are you serious?

[oc00011]

@Mrlumierdujour confused ey. i already sent u info on the reliable *sources* Proving that 850,000 jews were extremely persecuted & forcefully exiled from their homes in arab lands, by arabs, during which time the world shouts at the jewish state only, for actions nowhere near as devastating!

now, if u want, i can send u reliable *sources* Proving that the 'jews stole arab land' thing is a complete MYTH. r u brave enough to read, & Consider, those sources or not? if not, then Y r u talking to me.

[Mrlumierdujour]

@oc00011

i sent you reliable israeli jewish "sources" proving that the jews who immigrated from arab countries was not persecuted and that their immigration was organized by zionist organization to compensate the low number of jews in Palestine. for this you can read "the jews of Iraq" by the israeli jew Naeim Giladi, zionists still steal palestinian lands nowadays and buil new settelement on occupied territories in AlQods and all the world condemn it but they don't stop!

is this also a MYTH?

[oc00011]

@Mrlumierdujour i asked u a direct question. will u read, & consider, sources i hav 4 u or not? to answer ur question, i will read giladi's book right now. not that it matters bcoz, even putting aside that its a well-known fact how the mizrahi jews were extremely persecuted, my own family experienced it! so 4 u to dare to deny it is disgusting. 'jews stole arab land' in israel's founding, is a myth. the current settlement building is not a myth of course, & i'm against it, as are many zionists.

[Mrlumierdujour]

@oc00011

i gave you sources from israeli jew historians give me impartial sources don't give me zionist sources.

you are against it so great so you admit that the zionist entity steal palestinian lands.

[oc00011]

@Mrlumierdujour i skim-read ur "source". did u read mine?? i bet u didn't. ur not a free thinker. google search 'giladi jews of iraq', & read the 4th link on the results page. giladi's full of BS. again, i challenge u to read my sources critically & neutrally, starting with 'The Case of the Jews from Arab Countries: A Neglected Issue' by Roumani. even the antisemitic & corrupt UN recognize the persecution of mizrahi jews, get a grip. no, jews didn't "steal arab land", i hav sources 4 this also.

[Mrlumierdujour]

@oc00011

UN is a zionist organization the prove? there is a lot of resolution against zionist occupation but none have been executed.

roumani is a zionist jewish writer can u give impartial source?

Ben Gurion said that zionists stole palestinian lands and you couldn't answer it.

u admited that judaism is not a race and you spoke about cultural and way of life's relations!

there is evidences that zionists in Germany collaborate with nazis to promote jewish immigration to Palestine.

[oc00011]

@Mrlumierdujour ok ur obviously Very confused (about everything). i suggest u take ur medication, read some books, go to live there for a few years, continue with ur medication, then come back to talk to me about this topic. good luck to u kid.

[Mrlumierdujour]

@oc00011

you have no answer to my argument! so you prefer calling me kid to run off discussion!

[oc00011]

@Mrlumierdujour no, not quite. there's just too many answers to give in 1 comment box, & i don't have the energy as ur not the type to consider other views. so i'll summarise, roumani is impartial, look up references/sources in his book & u'll see for urself, i wud say its u who is biased. many ppl who quote ben gurion actually quote fabricated quotes. ben gurion actually said that nobody shud steal arab land. u don't know what 'jews' is, i'm sad to say. ur last point doesn't deserve a response.