@loveyoulovesonglike Down's Syndrome isn't retarded, and those that confuse the two are just plain stupid... Like you clealy are. Retarded means slow... Which is you! :-)
How come they don't do this for the n word or the spik word or the c word that would be more offensive than saying that's g ay i say that all the time. becuz it's g ay who cares about if it hurts ppls feelings that just means they arent confident with their descisions. Jeez this parody was g ay
??? when people do things even if they may or may not be wrong you shouldnt care about what others say. Unless they're using as a pure insult if i said thats so homosexual than i would agree with you, but the term g ay used to mean happy and not it means homosexual and now it can mean stupid i think it would be better if we forgot about it meaning homosexual who would care? if something is stupid i will continue to say thats g ay
@thatscrazierthanyou You missed the point of her ad. (I realize this was 2 months ago so sorry). But the point was, what if everytime something was stupid or bad, people said 'Wow you look like a stupid black person!' or 'That's so Asian!' or 'You look like a Spic!'
Being gay isn't a race, but it's still discriminatory to say 'that's so gay.' This parody was hilarious, but you don't get it.
@Karopex Nooo it wasnt funny people laugh at g ay stuff all the time, but its just plain stupid im picky with comedy adam sandler cant make me laugh nor kevin james its just flat out dumb come on grow up. I understand how it can be offensive im just not using it in an offensive way, so i just find it annoying when people freak out and say what did you say? Are you serious, jeez you cant control the words i say, not you i mean the commercial/ad.
@Karopex Idk i saw i put spaces when i did it before so i just did it before i didn't think it mattered plus i hate it when they bleep things out its agitating. Hope i didnt offend you but i must share my beliefs as you do too. I guess we can both agree to disagree because i will not linger further into this argument. I hope we can remain mutual friends or acquaintances... sticks out hand and waits for handshake reply : )
2) so why is it being used as one? Why is it that bad things are described as gay. Why not describe them as black, Caucasian, or Asian? Ohhhh, because that would be racist. and we can't have that.
BTW, some of you are getting a little overly dramatic with this. Seriously, is it not possible for someone to think something else of a word? Even a slur like 'fag' means something completely different in England.
Words have power to hurt when YOU give it that power.
To me, this commercial is kinda pointless. Words have multiple meanings. They can change meaning every generation. So who are you to say who can and can't say things. If I were to pick up a pencil and call it a "hugumoffo", you would say I'm wrong to call it that, when really it's just MY own word for it.
@29Texan it doesn't matter it is still offensive to homosexuals...and it takes minimal effort to use an alternate word. Like...really, you are arguing about your right to use the word "gay"? Really? You really can't just say "dumb" or any countless number of other alternatives? Even if everything you said was true (which it is not-take a class in linguistics), just don't say it. Is it really hard not to say it?
Actually it DOES matter. You don't need a class in linguistics to know people and history. Look,I can understand why gays are offended, because now, it's commonly used to mean homosexual. But just 50 years ago, the word commonly meant 'happy'. Words mean whatever you want them to mean. If a person can't say 'gay' to mean dumb, then we can't use the words 'black' and 'dark' to mean evil. Like it or not, you're in a country where people can say whatever.
@29Texan no you cannot just define words to mean whatever you want them to mean. The example you gave in your previous comment is just false (regarding the pencil). If language is used to convey meaning then "hugumoffo" is meaningless in social context. Hence social context is key to determining meanings of words andt the social context currently is ambiguous as to what "gay" means (by virtue of the mere existence of this ad)
@29Texan so it is better to simply refrain from using the term. Moreover, even if YOU personally are not homophobic or don't use "gay" in a homophobic context, there are many people who are and it is impossible to verify what they mean when they say "that's so gay". And what are you even proposing when you say "words mean whatever you want them to mean." Like what action should be taken...gays should just change their mindset to not get offended? It would just be easier to not say gay at all.
@29Texan ...(contd from last post) especially when the opportunity cost is so fucking low. And that's what i hate...people go around America constantly claiming things as their "rights" (i.e. you say we're in a country "where people can say whatever") but don't look at the larger implication of their actions. Seriously...by not saying "gay" you risk being creative and taking the time to think of another word. By saying it, you risk contributing to serious psychological harm to, say, a gay teen
Again, I'm in no way saying that gays should not be offended by it. Everyone and every group is offended by SOMETHING. What I'm saying to YOU is, there is no way to stop things from changing and you can't stop people from saying things you don't like. Who's to say that the word gay will still mean homosexual in the future, anyway? As much as we all have to accept what's offensive, we also have to accept that other's don't see it that way or don't even mean harm by it.
I think what they are trying to say is that people are saying gay as a bad thing. I dont know what its like in other places but in Australia when something goes wrong or something is ugly etc. People have a habbit of saying "thats so gay". Which isnt exactly nice to us gays, its degrading it makes us feel wrong and ugly. Sure the word can be said just not in those ways and I think thats what this video is meant to symbolise. From reading the comments it just looks like no one is understanding.
@55EyesBeautiful But it isn't a personal attack since they don't actually are looking at you or talking straight at you. People will tend to take things out of context and that is how things are going to be, it is not a personal attack so it shouldn't be a problem, if you do find offense to you then you do need more self esteem and self respect to not let such a thing hurt you.
@orgexy I can see what you mean, personally I dont have a problem with the jokes people make its just like jokes about blondes but at the same time. It is offensive when people say things are gay when they dont like it. I dont know anything about you but say if you were black would you like people going around saying omg that shirt is so back or that class is so black and not just stopping there but about everything? But yeah I do understand where you are coming from.
@zzzAMBERzzz No not really. It wouldn't offend me, because I know they aren't particualrly talking about me, they are just expressing their dislike of the situation that they are in or are thinking about. Nobody should be offended because it isn't aimed at any specific person, some people just need to learn how to have better self-esteem.
@orgexy I don't think you understand how much of an effect is produced when it is pounded into your head incessantly that something that is a part of you is "bad" or "stupid" or "dumb". It's the same reason that psychologists tell people to talk to themselves positively in their head... because that shit has an effect on you whether you like it or not.
@rasputozen I do and it used to affect me when I was little, but then I learned that you shouldn't give a shit about what other people think and try to increase your self esteem. If anybody finds this stuff messing with them and making them feel worse, they need to stop being butthurt and get better self esteem. You can't stop people from saying certain things that is taking out of context, especially when they are not talking about you, but expressing their thoughts on a sitaution.
@orgexy Read up on subconscious programming and subliminal messaging. Advertising uses it ALL THE TIME. Why? Because it works... even on confident people with a healthy self-esteem.
@rasputozen That doesn't mean that you should find words offensive even when they are not aimed at you. But if they are confident and have healthy self- esteem, then why do they need it? My point is you can't and shouldn't be able to control what people say unless it is directed at you.
@orgexy you're missing the point because it's not about it being offensive. It has REAL repercussions on innocent people. I've already mentioned, which you seem to have ignored, that when words or associations are repeatedly put into someone's head, they leave an imprint - IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU HAVE GREAT SELF ESTEEM OR NOT. The phrase "that's so gay" happens to leave a negative imprint on people in regard to their feelings towards homosexuality. And many people don't know they're doingit
@rasputozen I don't think your understanding what I am saying either. I am saying that it isn't really offensive or leaving a bad imprint on gay people by saying that. So if I say:
That is so bad: Leaves negative imprints on bad people.
That is so stupid: Leaves negative imprints on stupid people.
That is so retarded: Leaves negative imprints on retarded people.
Things will leave negative imprints on a person regardless stop trying to control what people say its annoying.
@orgexy You're examples like "that is so stupid" and "that is so bad" aren't the same as "that is so gay". There are things that are stupid and it's natural to label them as such whereas there's no legitimate connection between homosexuality and things that are dumb and stupid... do you see the difference? Also, I'm not for controlling what people say, rather I'm for raising awareness so people will think about the consequences of using this phrase.
@rasputozen Forgot to mention. I said I have good self esteem because you said that it affected everyone I said it didn't affect me. Now if someone says "thats so gay" and it happens to leave a negative imprint on their feelings towards homosexuality, then so be it, it isn't that much of a problem because they might feel that way about it? I just think you should stop trying to control what people say and encourage others to have great self esteem, the later is more effective.
@orgexy I think about this the same way I think about pollution. Some people litter unnecessarily but maybe they would think twice about it if they had more awareness that it fucks up the earth. The same with "that's so gay". Sure, a gay person hearing the phrase once or twice might not have much effect... and a styrofoam cup here and there won't fuck up the earth... but if lots of people throw their garbage in the ocean it starts to become a problem... you see what I mean?
@rasputozen I do see what you mean, but I still think you shouldn't try to control what people say and just let them speak. Its like me watching a tree getting cut down, I do enjoy seeing lots of trees and hate seeing them get cut down, but I know the trees are being used for good purposes so it doesn't bother me in the slightest. The littering thing, some people are too lazy to throw away their trash into the garbage can so they throw it wherever to save themselves time, doesn't make it right.
@orgexy I've said this I think 3 times now... I'm not trying to control what people say, I just want to raise awareness in people about the effects of this phrase (so they are better informed about the repercussions of their choices) - which is why I think these commercials are a good idea. Do you see the difference?
@rasputozen I do see what you are saying and I understand, but I still think you should try to come out as not trying to control what people say and think that some people are aware of what they think they are saying are offensive. So what if you have said it three times? I have said my thing about 4 times and I don't think you see the point I am trying to make. Saying that's so gay is okay if not pointed or directred at someone else.
@orgexy You started this last reply with "I do see what you are saying and I understand" and then go on to say "but i still think you should try to come out as not trying to control what people say"
And this was in reply to me saying:
"I'm not trying to control what people say, I just want to raise awareness in people about the effects of this phrase"
I mean this in no demeaning way, although I do admit to some frustration, you clearly have reading comprehension problems.
@rasputozen Sir, I am just saying what you are coming out as and you should try read my last senetence of my last paragraph that also took place in mostly each end of my sentences "Saying that's so gay is okay if not pointed or directed at someone else" I have said it atleast 5 times now (including this one). So no I don't have reading comprehension problems you just to read more and understand that I am trying to let you know what you are coming out as trying to control people.
@rasputozen And before you reply to my last comment read over carefully what I have typed, do not tell me I "clearly have reading comprehension problems" when you aren't that great at it either and might even need to learn how to understand people's sentences more.
@orgexy Now you're just trying to make excuses for the considerable blunder I pointed out instead of the noble path of admitting you either made a mistake (assuming it was one) or didn't realize your own contradiction.
What is your assertion "Saying that's so gay is okay if not pointed or directed at someone else" based on? What evidence do you have for this statement?
@rasputozen What contradiction did I make? When did you start acting all high and mighty? You must be mistaken because I didn't make a mistake dude. "Saying that's so gay is okay if not pointed or directed at someone else" It is based on the fact that because I say that is so stupid doesn't offend anyone or shouldn't because I am not directing it at anyone. Even children understand this. I can yell in the open as long as I am not yelling at someone. So stop acting so high and mighty.
@rasputozen And maybe if you hadn't realized it yet, just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean I don't understand you. Point out my contradictions then we will see, but pardon yourself and apologize for your horrible behavior. I thought we could have a good conversation without any personal attacks towards the other, but apparently (sorry if misspelled) you can't.
Look it up, learn all the definitions, look at the synonyms, and then you will understand that "gay" is only a word. It has different meanings, and is used in different ways. You should know what you are talking about, if you don't already know it.
As a child, I learned that sticks and stones break bones, but words don't. Especially if the words aren't aimed at you.
I've nothing against homosexuality, but I really dislike ignorant opinions.
@MaJoDo You've never been hurt by a word? Give. Me. A. Break.
You're just trying to justify yourself. Then again, maybe you can't put yourself in another person's position... in which case you have no idea what you're talking about. Probably the latter.
Well at least you can comfort yourself knowing that in the not so distant future someone might look back at this post of yours and contemplate on what a perfect example you are of the typical conformist blockhead of the early 21st century.
@MaJoDo "Nigger" is also 'only a word', yet people seem to shy away from that, so apparently words CAN hurt... And I;m SURE your teachers would be completely convinced of your argument if you said something like "'fuck' is just a word, so from now on I'm going to use it often in class"
wow hillary duff is soo gay man I mean really she's gay for getting people to stop saying that. ill continue to say that's so gay for the rest of my life.
what she means is that, when people say "that's so gay" they mean it as a insalt!! dumb ass!! like school is so gay... what does that sound like?? think!! and if your gonna use it in a good way then use it with a good attitude and smile bcuz it is a happy word!! im gay and it makes me fill like a out cast when poeple use that word in a bad way!!! its like saying thats so n****!!! nock it off!!
@elijah794 you clearly don't udnerstand like she doesn't. Words change meaning, because people give words power. (first rule of Literature 101) Thats why reading Old English is really goofy because words don't mean the same anymore. Gay is no longer a target group dude, its an idea, its a thing thats just dumb and annoying. Not say homosexuals are annoying, or dumb. They are homo's its what they are and I don't care. If anything i thought you'd be glad that the word changes meaning retard.
@TheJuanation ok since gay is an insult we might as well just say thats so straight thats so Bisexual thats so transvestite thats so black thats so white thats so hispanic thats so pansexual see how retarded they all sound? "wow that shirt is so gay" sounds retarded how is it gay? how cna it be an insult if.... you are not calling the shirt happy u are not saying the shirt has homosexual feelings towards other homosexuals so what exactly are you guys saying?the shirt is bad?
@EmoLoverRyan It is slang. Like, "That's so sick." "That's so bomb." "That's so cool." "That's so hot." "That's so dirty." "That's so retarded."
None of those phrases are literal, but people still say it, because we obviously understand what they mean. Especially if they use "hella" in there. "That's hella sick."
But the reason "gay" ever became an insult, is because if there's one thing a straight guy hates, it's being thought of as gay. It's used as an insult to straight people.
@EmoLoverRyan I'm straight, but if I wore a shirt that made me look gay, then girls wouldn't be interested in me. And I wouldn't get laid. Now see the problem with that? That situation is bad. So basically, the shirt looks gay, so it is gay.
And the term "gay" is used for anything else straight people do, that might be thought to look gay, or not in cooperation with what is "normal." Because homosexuality was never considered normal within the history of society. That's just how things are.
@EmoLoverRyan The definition of normal: conforming with or constituting a norm or standard or level or type or social norm; not abnormal.
Society, as a majority is straight, and to fit the norm, society accepts being straight. There has been a long history where homosexuality was not favored. So your words are kinda just... your words. Now you asked a question, I told you the answer, and you proceed to speak opinions.
And saying "That's so straight," makes less sense than saying it's gay.
I'm gay. I find having Hilary Duff as a spokesperson for something like getting kids to not say things are gay when they think something is bad is MORE insulting than having kids call things that are bad, gay. Gtfo Hilary Duff.
I was going to watch this, and I clicked the video to pause it so I could adjust the volume. It redirected me to your page. So, out of spite for shitty spamming, I refuse to watch it. STUFU.
@rufus0322 i didn't say anything is wrong with it. god are u high on crack? i said i haven't seen that commercial so it must be american. cause sometimes american gets things that canada doesn't get... like mountain dew code blue in a bottle for example... i'm just sayin
@rufus0322 whatever. it doesnt even matter.. the point is i've said i've never seen it.. god what are u trying to get at?? it wouldnt make a difference if i lived in hong kong or in canada the point i've been trying to get at is I HAVE NOT SEEN THIS COMMERCIAL BEFORE!!!!!
@rufus0322 Rufus! You are wrong. xbearcanrockx said, "Wtf ive never seen that commercial. Must be american...?" Now in that statement you should basically understand that xbearcanrockx is not an American. Therefor, they would not have seen an American commercial in their own country. For your own sake Rufus, I hope that you are only a child who has not yet learned this knowledge about the world. Otherwise, xbearcanrockx is correct about something being wrong with you.
I know everyone bags out this video, but I think it's actually funny xD
When you say a videos bad, do you realize what your saying?
Knock it off.
PrincessJadeyXD 1 week ago
fuck perverts!<---no pun intended
cosmosmonger 1 month ago
@loveyoulovesonglike Down's Syndrome isn't retarded, and those that confuse the two are just plain stupid... Like you clealy are. Retarded means slow... Which is you! :-)
thesykboy 2 months ago
haha!
kim1hol 2 months ago
this is dumb af
JustinNwokoloo 7 months ago
lmfao!
XxthefailnessxX 7 months ago
They made her look dumb not a hater if HD though
Kellzvideoz 7 months ago
@snowleopard772 I know... I don't care. :-)
thesykboy 7 months ago
@thesykboy your a fucking prick. would you call comeone with down syndrome retarted?
i hope you have a mentally handicapped child you ignorant idiot.
loveyoulovesonglike 2 months ago
Losers...
AdamOakesMusic 8 months ago
This is retarded...
thesykboy 8 months ago
@thesykboy .... saying this is retarded is just as bad.
snowleopard772 7 months ago
SOOOOO "Thats so stupid" offends stupid people???
HHHdahman 8 months ago
@HHHdahman No because they're to stupid to be offended lmao
IIIIlIlIlIlIlIlIII 5 months ago
How come they don't do this for the n word or the spik word or the c word that would be more offensive than saying that's g ay i say that all the time. becuz it's g ay who cares about if it hurts ppls feelings that just means they arent confident with their descisions. Jeez this parody was g ay
thatscrazierthanyou 9 months ago
@thatscrazierthanyou Are you an Idiot?
ohmyfuckitsatroll 6 months ago
@ohmyfuckitsatroll
??? when people do things even if they may or may not be wrong you shouldnt care about what others say. Unless they're using as a pure insult if i said thats so homosexual than i would agree with you, but the term g ay used to mean happy and not it means homosexual and now it can mean stupid i think it would be better if we forgot about it meaning homosexual who would care? if something is stupid i will continue to say thats g ay
thatscrazierthanyou 4 months ago
@thatscrazierthanyou You missed the point of her ad. (I realize this was 2 months ago so sorry). But the point was, what if everytime something was stupid or bad, people said 'Wow you look like a stupid black person!' or 'That's so Asian!' or 'You look like a Spic!'
Being gay isn't a race, but it's still discriminatory to say 'that's so gay.' This parody was hilarious, but you don't get it.
Karopex 6 months ago
@Karopex Nooo it wasnt funny people laugh at g ay stuff all the time, but its just plain stupid im picky with comedy adam sandler cant make me laugh nor kevin james its just flat out dumb come on grow up. I understand how it can be offensive im just not using it in an offensive way, so i just find it annoying when people freak out and say what did you say? Are you serious, jeez you cant control the words i say, not you i mean the commercial/ad.
thatscrazierthanyou 4 months ago
@thatscrazierthanyou Why do you put a space in the word gay? It's not a swear...
Karopex 4 months ago
@Karopex Idk i saw i put spaces when i did it before so i just did it before i didn't think it mattered plus i hate it when they bleep things out its agitating. Hope i didnt offend you but i must share my beliefs as you do too. I guess we can both agree to disagree because i will not linger further into this argument. I hope we can remain mutual friends or acquaintances... sticks out hand and waits for handshake reply : )
thatscrazierthanyou 4 months ago
@thatscrazierthanyou
1) gay isn't a bad word
2) so why is it being used as one? Why is it that bad things are described as gay. Why not describe them as black, Caucasian, or Asian? Ohhhh, because that would be racist. and we can't have that.
Karopex 4 months ago
@Karopex i see i cant get through to you so idc peace go live your life no where near me plz
thatscrazierthanyou 4 months ago
P.S., it's not as if gays themselves DON'T use the word to mean dumb or lame.
As much as I respect people's personal feelings on this, I just have to say trying to put barricades on WORDS just don't work.
29Texan 9 months ago
BTW, some of you are getting a little overly dramatic with this. Seriously, is it not possible for someone to think something else of a word? Even a slur like 'fag' means something completely different in England.
29Texan 9 months ago
Instead say, "That's so Vince Vaughn's Mother's Pussy." See the video by putting "watch?v=6jLLaCywSmc" in the Youtube search bar.
SFHarry 10 months ago
nigger faggot. nuff said.
nukester 11 months ago
Words have power to hurt when YOU give it that power.
To me, this commercial is kinda pointless. Words have multiple meanings. They can change meaning every generation. So who are you to say who can and can't say things. If I were to pick up a pencil and call it a "hugumoffo", you would say I'm wrong to call it that, when really it's just MY own word for it.
Grow up, folks.
29Texan 11 months ago
@29Texan it doesn't matter it is still offensive to homosexuals...and it takes minimal effort to use an alternate word. Like...really, you are arguing about your right to use the word "gay"? Really? You really can't just say "dumb" or any countless number of other alternatives? Even if everything you said was true (which it is not-take a class in linguistics), just don't say it. Is it really hard not to say it?
ubermensch826 9 months ago
@ubermensch82
Actually it DOES matter. You don't need a class in linguistics to know people and history. Look,I can understand why gays are offended, because now, it's commonly used to mean homosexual. But just 50 years ago, the word commonly meant 'happy'. Words mean whatever you want them to mean. If a person can't say 'gay' to mean dumb, then we can't use the words 'black' and 'dark' to mean evil. Like it or not, you're in a country where people can say whatever.
29Texan 9 months ago
@29Texan no you cannot just define words to mean whatever you want them to mean. The example you gave in your previous comment is just false (regarding the pencil). If language is used to convey meaning then "hugumoffo" is meaningless in social context. Hence social context is key to determining meanings of words andt the social context currently is ambiguous as to what "gay" means (by virtue of the mere existence of this ad)
ubermensch826 9 months ago
@29Texan so it is better to simply refrain from using the term. Moreover, even if YOU personally are not homophobic or don't use "gay" in a homophobic context, there are many people who are and it is impossible to verify what they mean when they say "that's so gay". And what are you even proposing when you say "words mean whatever you want them to mean." Like what action should be taken...gays should just change their mindset to not get offended? It would just be easier to not say gay at all.
ubermensch826 9 months ago
@29Texan ...(contd from last post) especially when the opportunity cost is so fucking low. And that's what i hate...people go around America constantly claiming things as their "rights" (i.e. you say we're in a country "where people can say whatever") but don't look at the larger implication of their actions. Seriously...by not saying "gay" you risk being creative and taking the time to think of another word. By saying it, you risk contributing to serious psychological harm to, say, a gay teen
ubermensch826 9 months ago
@ubermensch826
Again, I'm in no way saying that gays should not be offended by it. Everyone and every group is offended by SOMETHING. What I'm saying to YOU is, there is no way to stop things from changing and you can't stop people from saying things you don't like. Who's to say that the word gay will still mean homosexual in the future, anyway? As much as we all have to accept what's offensive, we also have to accept that other's don't see it that way or don't even mean harm by it.
29Texan 9 months ago
Gay doesn't mean homosexual anymore so they should just move on I mean it used to mean happy so just get over it no one is talking about you.
wazdz 11 months ago 2
@wazdz Thank you for your lesson, linguistics professor. Will you be submitting this revised definition to the Oxford English Dictionary?
ubermensch826 9 months ago
Fck Hillary Duff
snickerz1139 11 months ago
Gay means happy so he said dude you look so happy. And I guess a homosexual is a happy person.
humbert0acevedo 1 year ago
@humbert0acevedo Nope, gay means homosexual now. That's what everyone uses it for.
RandomMajin 1 year ago
@humbert0acevedo Yeah happt to have a dick up there ass hole and cum in their stomach...and HIV
mrtundra45 11 months ago
you know, the commercial only just add on to jokes.
Minase 1 year ago
I think what they are trying to say is that people are saying gay as a bad thing. I dont know what its like in other places but in Australia when something goes wrong or something is ugly etc. People have a habbit of saying "thats so gay". Which isnt exactly nice to us gays, its degrading it makes us feel wrong and ugly. Sure the word can be said just not in those ways and I think thats what this video is meant to symbolise. From reading the comments it just looks like no one is understanding.
55EyesBeautiful 1 year ago 2
@55EyesBeautiful But it isn't a personal attack since they don't actually are looking at you or talking straight at you. People will tend to take things out of context and that is how things are going to be, it is not a personal attack so it shouldn't be a problem, if you do find offense to you then you do need more self esteem and self respect to not let such a thing hurt you.
orgexy 1 year ago
@orgexy I can see what you mean, personally I dont have a problem with the jokes people make its just like jokes about blondes but at the same time. It is offensive when people say things are gay when they dont like it. I dont know anything about you but say if you were black would you like people going around saying omg that shirt is so back or that class is so black and not just stopping there but about everything? But yeah I do understand where you are coming from.
zzzAMBERzzz 1 year ago
@zzzAMBERzzz No not really. It wouldn't offend me, because I know they aren't particualrly talking about me, they are just expressing their dislike of the situation that they are in or are thinking about. Nobody should be offended because it isn't aimed at any specific person, some people just need to learn how to have better self-esteem.
orgexy 1 year ago
@orgexy I don't think you understand how much of an effect is produced when it is pounded into your head incessantly that something that is a part of you is "bad" or "stupid" or "dumb". It's the same reason that psychologists tell people to talk to themselves positively in their head... because that shit has an effect on you whether you like it or not.
rasputozen 1 year ago
@rasputozen I do and it used to affect me when I was little, but then I learned that you shouldn't give a shit about what other people think and try to increase your self esteem. If anybody finds this stuff messing with them and making them feel worse, they need to stop being butthurt and get better self esteem. You can't stop people from saying certain things that is taking out of context, especially when they are not talking about you, but expressing their thoughts on a sitaution.
orgexy 1 year ago
@orgexy Read up on subconscious programming and subliminal messaging. Advertising uses it ALL THE TIME. Why? Because it works... even on confident people with a healthy self-esteem.
rasputozen 1 year ago
@rasputozen That doesn't mean that you should find words offensive even when they are not aimed at you. But if they are confident and have healthy self- esteem, then why do they need it? My point is you can't and shouldn't be able to control what people say unless it is directed at you.
orgexy 1 year ago
@orgexy you're missing the point because it's not about it being offensive. It has REAL repercussions on innocent people. I've already mentioned, which you seem to have ignored, that when words or associations are repeatedly put into someone's head, they leave an imprint - IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU HAVE GREAT SELF ESTEEM OR NOT. The phrase "that's so gay" happens to leave a negative imprint on people in regard to their feelings towards homosexuality. And many people don't know they're doingit
rasputozen 1 year ago
@rasputozen I don't think your understanding what I am saying either. I am saying that it isn't really offensive or leaving a bad imprint on gay people by saying that. So if I say:
That is so bad: Leaves negative imprints on bad people.
That is so stupid: Leaves negative imprints on stupid people.
That is so retarded: Leaves negative imprints on retarded people.
Things will leave negative imprints on a person regardless stop trying to control what people say its annoying.
orgexy 1 year ago
@orgexy You're examples like "that is so stupid" and "that is so bad" aren't the same as "that is so gay". There are things that are stupid and it's natural to label them as such whereas there's no legitimate connection between homosexuality and things that are dumb and stupid... do you see the difference? Also, I'm not for controlling what people say, rather I'm for raising awareness so people will think about the consequences of using this phrase.
rasputozen 1 year ago
@rasputozen Forgot to mention. I said I have good self esteem because you said that it affected everyone I said it didn't affect me. Now if someone says "thats so gay" and it happens to leave a negative imprint on their feelings towards homosexuality, then so be it, it isn't that much of a problem because they might feel that way about it? I just think you should stop trying to control what people say and encourage others to have great self esteem, the later is more effective.
orgexy 1 year ago
@orgexy I think about this the same way I think about pollution. Some people litter unnecessarily but maybe they would think twice about it if they had more awareness that it fucks up the earth. The same with "that's so gay". Sure, a gay person hearing the phrase once or twice might not have much effect... and a styrofoam cup here and there won't fuck up the earth... but if lots of people throw their garbage in the ocean it starts to become a problem... you see what I mean?
rasputozen 1 year ago
@rasputozen I do see what you mean, but I still think you shouldn't try to control what people say and just let them speak. Its like me watching a tree getting cut down, I do enjoy seeing lots of trees and hate seeing them get cut down, but I know the trees are being used for good purposes so it doesn't bother me in the slightest. The littering thing, some people are too lazy to throw away their trash into the garbage can so they throw it wherever to save themselves time, doesn't make it right.
orgexy 1 year ago
@orgexy I've said this I think 3 times now... I'm not trying to control what people say, I just want to raise awareness in people about the effects of this phrase (so they are better informed about the repercussions of their choices) - which is why I think these commercials are a good idea. Do you see the difference?
rasputozen 1 year ago
@rasputozen I do see what you are saying and I understand, but I still think you should try to come out as not trying to control what people say and think that some people are aware of what they think they are saying are offensive. So what if you have said it three times? I have said my thing about 4 times and I don't think you see the point I am trying to make. Saying that's so gay is okay if not pointed or directred at someone else.
orgexy 1 year ago
@orgexy You started this last reply with "I do see what you are saying and I understand" and then go on to say "but i still think you should try to come out as not trying to control what people say"
And this was in reply to me saying:
"I'm not trying to control what people say, I just want to raise awareness in people about the effects of this phrase"
I mean this in no demeaning way, although I do admit to some frustration, you clearly have reading comprehension problems.
rasputozen 1 year ago
@rasputozen Sir, I am just saying what you are coming out as and you should try read my last senetence of my last paragraph that also took place in mostly each end of my sentences "Saying that's so gay is okay if not pointed or directed at someone else" I have said it atleast 5 times now (including this one). So no I don't have reading comprehension problems you just to read more and understand that I am trying to let you know what you are coming out as trying to control people.
orgexy 1 year ago
@rasputozen And before you reply to my last comment read over carefully what I have typed, do not tell me I "clearly have reading comprehension problems" when you aren't that great at it either and might even need to learn how to understand people's sentences more.
orgexy 1 year ago
@orgexy Now you're just trying to make excuses for the considerable blunder I pointed out instead of the noble path of admitting you either made a mistake (assuming it was one) or didn't realize your own contradiction.
What is your assertion "Saying that's so gay is okay if not pointed or directed at someone else" based on? What evidence do you have for this statement?
rasputozen 1 year ago
@rasputozen What contradiction did I make? When did you start acting all high and mighty? You must be mistaken because I didn't make a mistake dude. "Saying that's so gay is okay if not pointed or directed at someone else" It is based on the fact that because I say that is so stupid doesn't offend anyone or shouldn't because I am not directing it at anyone. Even children understand this. I can yell in the open as long as I am not yelling at someone. So stop acting so high and mighty.
orgexy 1 year ago
@rasputozen And maybe if you hadn't realized it yet, just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean I don't understand you. Point out my contradictions then we will see, but pardon yourself and apologize for your horrible behavior. I thought we could have a good conversation without any personal attacks towards the other, but apparently (sorry if misspelled) you can't.
orgexy 1 year ago
@rasputozen
"dictionary.reference. com/browse/gay"
Look it up, learn all the definitions, look at the synonyms, and then you will understand that "gay" is only a word. It has different meanings, and is used in different ways. You should know what you are talking about, if you don't already know it.
As a child, I learned that sticks and stones break bones, but words don't. Especially if the words aren't aimed at you.
I've nothing against homosexuality, but I really dislike ignorant opinions.
MaJoDo 1 year ago
@MaJoDo You've never been hurt by a word? Give. Me. A. Break.
You're just trying to justify yourself. Then again, maybe you can't put yourself in another person's position... in which case you have no idea what you're talking about. Probably the latter.
Well at least you can comfort yourself knowing that in the not so distant future someone might look back at this post of yours and contemplate on what a perfect example you are of the typical conformist blockhead of the early 21st century.
rasputozen 1 year ago
@MaJoDo "Nigger" is also 'only a word', yet people seem to shy away from that, so apparently words CAN hurt... And I;m SURE your teachers would be completely convinced of your argument if you said something like "'fuck' is just a word, so from now on I'm going to use it often in class"
shmuli9 1 year ago
@MaJoDo Words never hurt? Watch me throw a Webster's New Universal Unabridged Dictionary" at your head, see how you fuckin feel.
BownBoy213 9 months ago
@MaJoDo ^this^
VogtTD 1 year ago
wow hillary duff is soo gay man I mean really she's gay for getting people to stop saying that. ill continue to say that's so gay for the rest of my life.
wow thats sooo ggaayy
mavericknrt 1 year ago
@galygirl21 the only reason you're finding it insulting, is since you're taking it the wrong way.
musicwithsmiles 1 year ago
@MaJoDo lol wut ? she said that "That's So Gay" is the insult not the word Gay !
CodeXero 1 year ago
what she means is that, when people say "that's so gay" they mean it as a insalt!! dumb ass!! like school is so gay... what does that sound like?? think!! and if your gonna use it in a good way then use it with a good attitude and smile bcuz it is a happy word!! im gay and it makes me fill like a out cast when poeple use that word in a bad way!!! its like saying thats so n****!!! nock it off!!
elijah794 1 year ago
@elijah794 you clearly don't udnerstand like she doesn't. Words change meaning, because people give words power. (first rule of Literature 101) Thats why reading Old English is really goofy because words don't mean the same anymore. Gay is no longer a target group dude, its an idea, its a thing thats just dumb and annoying. Not say homosexuals are annoying, or dumb. They are homo's its what they are and I don't care. If anything i thought you'd be glad that the word changes meaning retard.
TheJuanation 1 year ago
EmoLoverRyan 1 year ago
@TheJuanation why does gay mean bad now? explain that
EmoLoverRyan 1 year ago
@EmoLoverRyan It is slang. Like, "That's so sick." "That's so bomb." "That's so cool." "That's so hot." "That's so dirty." "That's so retarded."
None of those phrases are literal, but people still say it, because we obviously understand what they mean. Especially if they use "hella" in there. "That's hella sick."
But the reason "gay" ever became an insult, is because if there's one thing a straight guy hates, it's being thought of as gay. It's used as an insult to straight people.
MaJoDo 1 year ago
@MaJoDo but using gay as an insult is implying that being gay is a bad thing...which makes people that are actually gay feel bad....
smallbutmighty97 1 year ago
@smallbutmighty97 An infinite number of things can be gay, not just a homosexual person.
Reference website: dictionary.reference . com/browse/gay
Look at the synonyms, too.
MaJoDo 1 year ago
@EmoLoverRyan I'm straight, but if I wore a shirt that made me look gay, then girls wouldn't be interested in me. And I wouldn't get laid. Now see the problem with that? That situation is bad. So basically, the shirt looks gay, so it is gay.
And the term "gay" is used for anything else straight people do, that might be thought to look gay, or not in cooperation with what is "normal." Because homosexuality was never considered normal within the history of society. That's just how things are.
MaJoDo 1 year ago
@MaJoDo i dont hate being called gay, i just correct them and move on. i am not gay.
being striaght is not normal.
being gay isnt, bisexual isnt, and so on.
no such thing as normal.
i wouldnt be so mad about this if people would say
"thats so striaght"
EmoLoverRyan 1 year ago
@EmoLoverRyan The definition of normal: conforming with or constituting a norm or standard or level or type or social norm; not abnormal.
Society, as a majority is straight, and to fit the norm, society accepts being straight. There has been a long history where homosexuality was not favored. So your words are kinda just... your words. Now you asked a question, I told you the answer, and you proceed to speak opinions.
And saying "That's so straight," makes less sense than saying it's gay.
MaJoDo 1 year ago
I'm gay. I find having Hilary Duff as a spokesperson for something like getting kids to not say things are gay when they think something is bad is MORE insulting than having kids call things that are bad, gay. Gtfo Hilary Duff.
galygirl21 1 year ago
This video is gay.
:/
immakitteh1 1 year ago
but....shes gay
Luke2579 1 year ago
I was going to watch this, and I clicked the video to pause it so I could adjust the volume. It redirected me to your page. So, out of spite for shitty spamming, I refuse to watch it. STUFU.
R0undAboutMidnight 1 year ago
lol thats funny
ALEX9080 1 year ago
lol! liken
shirgro1 1 year ago
Wtf ive never seen that commercial. Must be american...?
xbearcanrockx 1 year ago
@xbearcanrockx And wats wrong wit american?
rufus0322 1 year ago
@rufus0322 i didn't say anything is wrong with it. god are u high on crack? i said i haven't seen that commercial so it must be american. cause sometimes american gets things that canada doesn't get... like mountain dew code blue in a bottle for example... i'm just sayin
xbearcanrockx 1 year ago
@xbearcanrockx U cuda said that must me amaerican because i havent seen it and i am a healthy christian therefore i do not smoke anything
rufus0322 1 year ago
@rufus0322 that IS what i said... There must be something wrong with u.. or maybe u just werent paying attention.
xbearcanrockx 1 year ago
@xbearcanrockx no u said wtf ive never seen this b4 mayb its american? unless im stupid (which im not) ther is no because im in canada in ther
rufus0322 1 year ago
@xbearcanrockx no u said wtf ive never seen this b4 mayb its american? unless im stupid (which im not) ther is no because im in canada in ther
rufus0322 1 year ago
@rufus0322 whatever. it doesnt even matter.. the point is i've said i've never seen it.. god what are u trying to get at?? it wouldnt make a difference if i lived in hong kong or in canada the point i've been trying to get at is I HAVE NOT SEEN THIS COMMERCIAL BEFORE!!!!!
xbearcanrockx 1 year ago
@rufus0322 Rufus! You are wrong. xbearcanrockx said, "Wtf ive never seen that commercial. Must be american...?" Now in that statement you should basically understand that xbearcanrockx is not an American. Therefor, they would not have seen an American commercial in their own country. For your own sake Rufus, I hope that you are only a child who has not yet learned this knowledge about the world. Otherwise, xbearcanrockx is correct about something being wrong with you.
MaJoDo 1 year ago
hilarious!!!!
Fashionnita1 1 year ago
HAHA i love how you just put a clip of hilary duff from *thats so gay* commercial..good job XDD
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frenchtoasty14 1 year ago
lol
MIMIC8801 1 year ago
whats wrong with you? haha that made me laugh so hard!
thelolipopgang 1 year ago