Wretched: 10 Reasons People Don't Attend Ballgames.

[greyspot00]

I'm okay with number 7. If your local church has become worldly, then yes, If you bring it up to the pastor and he likes it that way, leave. Music is the first step to everything else Godly going down hill. If you threw out the old hymns of the faith, then things SHOULD change. Of course, if it's just different hymns, get over it.

[CommunityStraightUP]

Same Budget! LOL!!!

[regrebmob]

Pastor Hans Fiene, FTW!

[Bearkiller777]

haha. Nice

[johnoliverclark]

Where is the triple and quadruple like button?

[KJVWordofGod]

Sadly, the reason I do not go to "ball games" is the leaders are compromisers, seeking only to please the people and not offend anybody so they can keep their jobs. In such cases (the norm), the people are fed pap, never mature (except in their own minds) and generally have interest only in showing others their good works. All this they claim is done for Christ.  Hardly. If a pastor actually preached a sermon that allowed the HS to convict someone, the milk drinkers would rise up and fire him.

[mooncrystal4194]

3:25 Ah, the need for commas...

[KJVWordofGod]

@mooncrystal4194 ....nice catch....one comma changes the whole thing.



[scw060808]

@ All Followers of Christ - jwissick gave me permission to pray for him. As a member of the body of Christ and being joined with ALL other members, what james did was actually give us permission to pray for him!! Isn't that outstanding!! I am asking each of you if you are not already praying for him, please include him in your prayers from here on. I know it would be easy to forget him or to ignore him, but that's not what we are called to do. Thank you all and God Bless!!!

[jwissick]

@scw060808 *yawn*

[RVGuy1959]

I'm a supporter, listener and watcher but this vid really dragged on far to long. Of course I agree with the message it was TRYING to get across.

[jwissick]

How about the #1 reason people don't attend church:

There is no evidence of your god!!

[scw060808]

@jwissick Look in the sky, the sun, the moon the stars. Evidence of God is everywhere, but you can't see it because your heart is hardened. That's why your life is so sad. But I continue to pray for you james in hopes that God reveals himself to you. Man, you will have a GREAT testimony when you do realize how wrong you have been. Praise God for the glory He can have through you!! I only pray that you come to know Him before its too late for you.

[jwissick]

@scw060808 That's not evidence of god. That's evidence of the cosmos. In fact that said evidence is evidence against the god of the bible! It directly contradicts the entire creation account. It confirms that your god is a MYTH.

My testimony is that I left christianity and woke up and found REALITY.

[scw060808]

@jwissick James, as is normally the case, you are wrong. There is no contradiction, you just can not see the truth for the aforementioned reasons. That, and you are a slave to sin - for no true Christian ever leaves Christ. You love the darkness more than the light - you never were of us. But, at the sake of redundancy, I continue to pray daily for you. Praise the Lord HIS faithfulness is not dependent on yours or mine!! HE is faithful no matter what.

[ddrninjette]

@scw060808 Actually, I love astronomy, and I love world religions, but I have to side with wissick on this one. A personal belief in God can be wonderful, but the universe isn't evidence of the Christian god. In fact, many astrophysicists like Stephen Hawking have argued the exact opposite given that pretty much nothing is required to make a universe. As Hawking says, the universe is the ultimate free lunch. :)

True faith, as I am told, comes from within. :)

[GodLovesUs100]

@ddrninjette You can't define truth for the universe beginning with yourself.Objective truth can only exist if there were an objective standard by which this truth can be measured.this standard is not man-it cannot be man because no man has greater authoirty in truth than any other man, in other words, amoung us humans, our opinions from within are just relative speculations.It is the definite and absoulte words that come from the mouth of God that we are to heed to.Our wisdom is foolishness.

[ddrninjette]

@GodLovesUs100 Hmm... So no person has greater authority in truth than any other man eh? And all opinions are just relative speculations? Therefore, you're saying that I have no authority to say one plus one equals two over someone who says that one plus one equals sixteen. I disagree.

I believe I can say one plus one equals two with authority because it can be externally verified via proof.

[GodLovesUs100]

@ddrninjette but that proof is objective, again going back to a source outside of man. But there is no way one could say that over another man if it was all given up to interpretations.That is exactly what i am saying with the universe...truth does not and cannot possibly come from within, it has to come from an objective source.

[ddrninjette]

@GodLovesUs100 With all ideas being equal, I would say you're right. But not all ideas are equal. Many ideas are externally verified by multiple participants. This external verification is what one calls objectivity :)

For example, by studying the wavelength of light coming from above, I can easily objectively show the sky is blue, and anyone else doing the same experiment should get the same answer. Thus I can say that anyone who thinks the sky is green is objectively wrong..

[GodLovesUs100]

@ddrninjette yes, because you're looking to an objective source outside of yourself to know that truth. Would it not be rational to do the same for eternal things?

[ddrninjette]

@GodLovesUs100 Why, I suppose you're right. Using internal or external objective sources would be a good idea. What eternal things are we talking about?

[GodLovesUs100]

@ddrninjette Well Romans 1 gives two specific things that God has made known to every individual, no matter where they are or at what given time in history, that always point them back to him.These two things at creation and conscience.Creation testifies to the define attributes of God, he has put within us all a reasoning system that always leads us to back to God as the first cause of everything.God's moral law is also written upon our hearts(everyone knows its wrong to kill, steal, life) cont

[GodLovesUs100]

@ddrninjette cont-If know there is an objective moral law, we know there has to be a moral law giver.Realizing that we then become aware that we all break this moral code, and then the search is on for diliverence.This is where religion comes into play.Most religions do understand that man has done wrong and somehow must appease their Creator, but only Christianity provides free grace and a complete atonement for sins in order to satisfy a Just God.

[ddrninjette]

@GodLovesUs100 Hmm... if there is an objective moral law, there has to be a law giver? I never thought about it before, but I suppose you're right. Although I doubt most religions understand they must appease their creator given that most religions are polytheistic.

[GodLovesUs100]

@ddrninjette but many religions come back to basic human points and issues that we all know to be true, and the reason we know because what refelects God law is already written in our hearts.And wheather they believe in one God or many, they still seek to appease.That is why they offer sacrifices and the Pagan somties human sacrifices, so that the "gods" would be happy/

[ddrninjette]

@GodLovesUs100 So people know killing stuff appeases God into happiness?

[GodLovesUs100]

@ddrninjette it's the idea of a sacrifice for wrongdoing, just like Hebrews says, without the shedding of blood, there is no remisson of sins.

[ddrninjette]

@GodLovesUs100 But I believe the shedding of blood is wrongdoing itself.

[GodLovesUs100]

@ddrninjette but the wages of sin is death, and therefore someone has to die under the peanlty of sin to remove guilty.(i say someone because man has sinned therefore only the blood of a man could take away sins) Remember, this is not about our own personal stance or opionion, but about the truth.Jesus is the Truth.

[ddrninjette]

@GodLovesUs100 "therefore someone has to die "

That's horrible!!! No one should have to die!!!!

[GodLovesUs100]

@ddrninjette sin is horrible, and therefore justice demands death.

[ddrninjette]

@GodLovesUs100 What the!? Nothing anyone can do would get me so angry that I would demand death! This is horrible!!!! Seriously, a sin like not keeping the Sabboth means someone should die!!!??? That's reprehensible!!!! I'm seriously at a loss for words right now.

[GodLovesUs100]

@ddrninjette like I said, this does not depend upon us. We are fallen and depraved sinful human beings, of course we cannot see the full evil extent of sin.In fact, b/c we've been so trained in him, we try to justify it a lot(especially in our unregenerate state) b/c we don't want to be held accountable.

but to a Infinetly Holy and Just God, sin is aboiminable and filthy, it is a direct offense to him and his character.it not only deserves hell but the wrath of God in hell.

[GodLovesUs100]

@ddrninjette a lot of times, we try and classify sins.The "really bad" sins are of course the sins we never committ and the "not so bad" sins are the ones we always committ. But to God, sin is sin.If we sin, the law of God is transgressed.If we sin, we have failed to love God with all our hearts and love our neighbor as ourself.We fall short of the glory of God, fall short of what which is good, and side ourselves as enemies of God.Oh, how we need a savior!

[ddrninjette]

@GodLovesUs100 This has nothing to do with "not so bad" sins. I wouldn't even want to see Hitler die for his crimes. You're talking about a God who is appeased through the suffering of others!!!! Please, violence only begets more violence. The path toward peace begins with forgiveness and understanding. Are you saying God is all powerful but unable to forgive unless you kill for him or accept some brutal sacrifice!? JWissick would make a more caring god than the one you are describing!

[GodLovesUs100]

@ddrninjette in the proverbs God says whoever aquits the guilty is an abomination.Like any good Judge, God will not let a criminal go free simply b/c they say sorry.It makes no sense.There must be retribution for a broken crime.And that is what we are-criminals.But it's not just a mere human law we have broken, but the perfect and eternal law of a Perfect And Eternal God.You may not love justice, but the Lord does.Jesus Christ is the spagegoat God has provided for mankind.

[GodLovesUs100]

@ddrninjette scapegoat***

[ddrninjette]

@GodLovesUs100 Are you trying to say you support scapegoating?

[GodLovesUs100]

@ddrninjette In the OT, a goat was sent out of the wilderness b/c of the sins of the people.He was taken outside the camp, outside the city of God, just as the people deserved to be.in the same way, I say Jesus is this goat that suffered outside of the city(heaven), forsaken like we should have been so we could be accepted.He satisifed the wrath of God, he bore guilt and shame.God will accept this sacrifice and will forgive us if we repent and turn to Jesus fullheartedly.

[ddrninjette]

@GodLovesUs100 Because God is incapable of simple forgiveness?

[GodLovesUs100]

@ddrninjette LIke I said, it would be unjust just like a Judge letting a criminal go unpunished just because the criminal is sorry. And God is incapable of sinning against himself.

[ddrninjette]

@GodLovesUs100 I'm very confused. Why is mercy and forgiveness "unjust?" Having someone else take the punishment for you is unjust, not having mercy. And what is so just about infinite punishment for finite crimes particularly without an end goal in mind? Punishment for punishment's sake is also unjust and cruel.

[GodLovesUs100]

@ddrninjette According to the Proverbs, pardoing a guilty man is unjust because is allows for evil to go unpunished, trangression to be overlooked.And while God is Merciful and Forgiving, he cannot forsake to do justice.

[ddrninjette]

@GodLovesUs100 I don't care what Proverbs says. There is nothing just about punishing people for the sake of punishing people, particularly when said punishment doesn't fit the crime.

Also, are you saying you and me are more powerful than God? You and I can forgive and show mercy to others, but according to you, God cannot. That doesn't sound right.

[GodLovesUs100]

@ddrninjette Well again just because you do not love justice, does not mean God can forsake doing what is right. No, in a human court, letting a criminal go free because he was sorry is not justice, the penalty for their crimes must still be paid.God is a Good Judge, an eternal law has been violated, justice demands retiribution, and God cannot sin against himself, he cannot do wrong.But in Romans 3 we see that the sacrifice of Jesus allows God to be both just and the justifer of the wicked.

[ddrninjette]

@GodLovesUs100 I don't love justice? Justice is all well in good. What you are advocating on God's behalf is not justice, though. You want punishment, not justice. Those are two very different concepts. Justice is about making amends. Punishment is about depriving others. Punishments CAN be used in administering justice to encourage learning from past mistakes (although it's a bad incentive for reinforcing positive choices). Your idea of justice is antagonistic to modern judicial ideals.

[GodLovesUs100]

@ddrninjette It is justice, for transgression cannot just be swept under the rug because God is a Good and a Righteous God, and absoultely abhors sin.If we fail the law at one point, we have become trangressors of the law and therefore make ourselves God enemies and are under their wrath.This debt we owe to justice needs to earsed somehow.And Jesus is the only one who satisifed the wrath of God.We must repent and trust in him, do not count the words of the Lord as foolishness my dear friend.

[ddrninjette]

@GodLovesUs100 Someone who believes in justice doesn't abhor another person's behavior..

The Oxford English Dictionary defines "justice" to mean "morally right" and "fair" "behavior or treatment" or "the quality of being fair and reasonable."

Sending someone to be tortured forever because of a relativity trivial offense is neither right, fair, nor reasonable. What you're describing are the actions of a monster, not the loving, perfect being that is Jesus Christ.

[GodLovesUs100]

@ddrninjette again you go back to judging this based upon your own opinion and moral standard. To God, sin is so evil that it deserves eternal punishement in hell. You might disagree but 1.) You are not God and therefore are not perfect in justice 2.) you are not good b/c of your sinful nature and therefore cannot see sin for what it really is and 3.) it's not your law that has been broken so you don't get to decide the punishment.We are not judged according to standard we make up

[ddrninjette]

@GodLovesUs100 I understand you. You're not understanding me. What you're describing is punishment, not justice. Justice is about being fair. If you steal a dollar, you ought to return a dollar and make up for any trouble. That is justice. It has NOTHING to do with punishment.

Want to say God must punish sinners? Fine. Just don't call it justice; it's malice.

What gives you the right to speak on behalf of God and His intentions?

[GodLovesUs100]

@ddrninjette S .Punishment is simply defined as "The infliction or imposition of a penalty as retribution for an offense" And the retribution of our horrid offenses is death-both physical and spiritual death. Christ has given us the commisson to speak his word, it's only his word we proclaim, not our own opinions or what we think to be true.Jesus didn't even speak of his own authoirty, but only as the Father commanded him.

[ddrninjette]

@GodLovesUs100 Exactly! The key word is "retribution." In other words, punishment is a way of making amends for our actions, most often with the "punishee" in mind. For example, we often punish children not for the sake of punishment, but to help them grow and learn from their mistakes. However, no one can argue that sending someone to hell is good for them. Therefore, if going to hell is indeed "punishment," it must be because sending people to hell pleases God. Thus it is not justice.

[GodLovesUs100]

@ddrninjette yes it's what is deserved for offending an infinitely worthy God.Criminals don't get sent off to prison just for the sake of learning, but because they actually committed a crime and justice demands they pay for what they did.

[ddrninjette]

@GodLovesUs100 PLEASE tell me you're joking. Criminals ARE sent to jail for learning. It's called REHABILITATION!

Justice is about making amends not hurting people just because. Like I said a thousand times already, you're not advocating justice.

[GodLovesUs100]

@ddrninjette I never said they do not learn their lesson in jail, but the purpose of locking them away is for them to pay back the debt they owe to society.

[ddrninjette]

@GodLovesUs100 Debts to society are paid back through settlements, fines, public service, etc...

Imprisonment serves the following purposes: rehabilitation, public condemnation, incapacitation, retribution (only to diminish street justice / vigilantism), and education. Throwing someone in jail does not right a wrong. If I steal 100 bucks and you just throw me in jail, then the victim does not get repaid for the 100 bucks taken. No debt paid.

[GodLovesUs100]

@ddrninjette so if someone murders another person and gets the death penalty for it, the purpose of it is to teach them their lesson(which I don't understand what they will comprehend in the grave)? is not the purpose to take their life because they have taken someone else's? that is justice.

[ddrninjette]

@GodLovesUs100 Actually, the death penalty is a travesty of justice if anything. The justification for the procedure is incapacitation. The argument is that the criminals are too dangerous to be allowed to live. It's barbaric. The US is the only first world nation that kills its prisoners. It's horrible.

The law is specifically designed against the "eye for an eye" style justice you're describing. In fact, Jesus speaks out against "eye for an eye" justice too.

[GodLovesUs100]

@ddrninjette eye for an eye is a just way to handle legal manners, which is why it was used in the justice system of Israel in the OT commanded by God.When Jesus said not to use an eye for an eye, he was referring to everyday manners in life(like if someone is mean to you, you should not be mean back), he was not talking about legal matters in the court of law.

[ddrninjette]

@GodLovesUs100 I know this wasn't what you meant to say, but when you explain that Jesus was against "eye for an eye" justice and for "eye for an eye" justice, you're calling Jesus a hypocrite. I refuse to believe Jesus was a hypocrite.

Oh well, to each their own.

[GodLovesUs100]

@ddrninjette no he wasn't a hypocrite, he just was speaking of personal matters of daily life in things like revenge. In that day, they heard it said "hate your enemies" but Jesus says that is wrong.In that day, if someone wronged you, you were to wrong them back-revenge. However, when it comes to the court of law and working out just penalties for crimes, this concept is found in scripture.God did command it for Israel to observe in their legal courts,

[scw060808]

@ddrninjette So help me understand, this is what you and the rest of the evolutionist / atheist believe?

nothing + nothing = everything or

nothing x nothing = everything

hmmmm............... yep, makes perfect sense.

NOT!

[jwissick]

@scw060808 Like usual... Completely missing the point.

[ddrninjette]

@scw060808 What do you mean? Atheism is a lack of a belief in God. Evolution is a scientific theory. I don't think any have anything to do with nothing or everything.

Are you asking how everything was made? That's complicated, but all you need for a universe is matter, energy, and space. Well, it turns out that matter and energy are the same thing, so now all you need is energy and space. And energy cannot be created or destroyed, so you don't need energy. It's a free lunch! :)

[jwissick]

@scw060808 It is a total contradiction. Pick up a book by Hawking, Kaku, Greene, etc and see for yourself.

Spare me the no true christian fallacy. There are tens of millions of ex christians in the world.

You keep praying... I will keep thinking.

[JMcH]

@jwissick - There are even more ex-atheists (like myself) in the world, James.

[jwissick]

@JMcH Wrong again.

Atheism / non-religious is the fastest growing "religion" there is. Most christians were born into christianity. There are more atheists / agnostics / non-religoius in the US than there are Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, and Hindus combined in the US.

[truthseeker1973]

@jwissick

Atheism grows evenly with degenerate behavior. I've noticed this in the US. You could be right.

[scw060808]

@truthseeker1973 LOL!!!!!! May I borrow your quote in the future?

[truthseeker1973]

@scw060808

Of course. Originality can only come from God. Aside from that, everyone borrows ;)

[scw060808]

@truthseeker1973 So your saying - nothing new under the sun? Thanks!

[jwissick]

@truthseeker1973 So the "original sin" came from god.... So he created sin.

[truthseeker1973]

@jwissick

Is THAT your excuse? It's God's fault, not yours?

[truthseeker1973]

@jwissick

He created free choice. Apparently yours is to rebel. Did he create the dark? Or is it more of an absence of light? Deceivers prefer the darkness. The light exposes them.

[jwissick]

@truthseeker1973 Changing your story now, eh?

[truthseeker1973]

@jwissick

You mean like all the petty theories that have propped up over time to "support" evolution? No, not like that at all. The only stories I change are non Biblical ones. I wouldn't worry about me though jwissick. You need to take a hard look at truth. There isn't much time left.

[jwissick]

@truthseeker1973 Our theories get more accurate.... Your bible stores are just absurd.

Calling the bible truth doesn't' make it true....

[truthseeker1973]

@jwissick

Accurate only to other degenerates who share your same religion, which celebrates sin. What it really boils down to jwissick is are we and the world around us the creation it obviously is, or, if you really want to get absurd and fantastic, while feeling good about sin at the same time, believe that 1 in 10^(insert a 2 or 3 digit number here) chance that all the chicken and egg scenarios behind life that are needed with evolution actually took place. Free will is great isn't it?

[jwissick]

@truthseeker1973 Chicken and the egg? All you have offered is an argument from incredulity.

The egg came before the chicken (reptiles and dinosaurs existed before the chicken).

We SEE and and test evolution all the time. Evolution is a confirmed fact of reality. Creationism is just an excuse for the lazy or idiotic to say they understand how the universe came to be. Creationism offers NOTHING to society except ignorance.

[truthseeker1973]

@jwissick

Chicken and egg scenarios'zzz. See and test evolution? That's a good one. The faith you have in man, that they can never lead you astray will soon crumble.

[jwissick]

@truthseeker1973 And you are convinced that every biologist on the planet is either in cahoots with satan, an idiot, a liar, or corrupted in some other way. Anything to protect your precious special creation myth...

[truthseeker1973]

@jwissick

jwissick, is EVERY biologist an evolutionist? Really? when you view the world through an evolutionary lens, everything seems to fit. If you knew decieption I wouldn't have to tell you that. Believe that shit and follow men. At some point it's only pearls before swine.

[jwissick]

@truthseeker1973 Yes. Virtually ALL biologists are evolutionists.

One 1987 estimate found that "700 scientists ... (out of a total of 480,000 U.S. earth and life scientists) ... give credence to creation-science". Less than 1/5th of ONE PERCENT. An expert in the evolution-creationism controversy, professor and author Brian Alters, states that "99.9 percent of scientists accept evolution".

It's not a deception or a trick from satan. It's the church being wrong about nature like it usually is.

[truthseeker1973]

@jwissick

That's a load a' dung, but luckily truth isn't dependent on how many people believe it. Question: If the whole world believed something, does that make it true? Hitler said tell a lie often enough and eventually people will believe it. Evolution is a religion. If it were true, it would prove itself. You can go ahead and think it's true, there are none as blind as one who will not see.

[jwissick]

@truthseeker1973 Argument from incredulity.

So, the experts are stupid and following a false religion according to you.

[jwissick]

@truthseeker1973 Then you are a hopeless idiot.

Don't ever go to the doctor. medications are based on evolution. The same science that brings you evolution brings you all the other amenities in life. Stop using your computer NOW. It's creators must be in cahoots with satan too.

[truthseeker1973]

@jwissick

jwissick if you could smell your own pride right now it would be rank. I guess we go back to the original argument that you consider yourself more intelligent than every creationist.

A title (i.e, Biologist) doesn't make someone an expert, and no matter how smart someone really is, they are always subject to bias. As I said, every man is stoopid. Most people follow their desires for truth, including all the shaved apes.

[jwissick]

@truthseeker1973 Yes, having a Ph.D in biology does, by definition, make one an EXPERT in biology. Now you are just being a moron.

[truthseeker1973]

@jwissick

Jwissicko, Hopeless for what? Do you have hope for something? Maybe a Star Trek utopia where we can use healing ray guns and no one works for money? Hopeless to believe the same thing as you? The foundation of man (your religion) is hopeless. We are seeing it crumble now, but It's all the hopeless Christians right?

[jwissick]

@truthseeker1973 What's crumbling? Life expectancy is higher than it's ever been. We left the church created dark ages and know more than ever before. The total sum knowledge of man doubles every 10 years. We have never been better off and you call it crumbling?

[truthseeker1973]

@jwissick

Medical science is observational science, that can be OBSERVED and repeated, hence the term. Evolutionary theories are junk science, always needing assumptions to build upon first. Nice try though monkey man.

[jwissick]

@truthseeker1973 Evolutionary science can and HAS been observed and repeated. Now get yourself a EDUCATION. 

[truthseeker1973]

@jwissick

Here it again simply that you can ponder on quietly before replying. When have we observed life come from no life. When have we observed one kind of animal change into another? Or when have we observed an accidental genetic addition that was beneficial? Why are there still "living fossils"? When you can answer those get back to me.

[jwissick]

@truthseeker1973 "Kind" is a meaningless word. WE don't even need to see new species emerge (and we have). DNA confirms evolution. The fossil record confirms evolution. There is NO debate in the life sciences community about wether or not evolution happens, only HOW it happens.

The only people out there denouncing evolution are idiots doing it for religious reasons. Idiots like you.

[truthseeker1973]

@jwissick

Jwissick, you must have info even your other degenerate brethren must be missing, a lot of the points I've never heard before. You should tell others.

[jwissick]

@truthseeker1973 Nope. They share the same basic views. If you believe the earth is 6000 years old and was created in 6 days, you are a slave to dogma and oblivious to evidence.

[truthseeker1973]

@jwissick

I hate to burst your animalistic bubble, but evidence is exactly what led me to believe that. Like I said, if you've observed and tested evolution, you really should get the word out.

[jwissick]

@truthseeker1973

The word IS out.

Maybe you should crack a book, magazine, text book, journal, other than the bible or the other christian trash you are reading.

[JMcH]

@jwissick - No, James. "Fastest-growing" does not equate to "more ex-Christians than ex-atheists." Also, "non-religious" does not equate to "atheist/agnostic." Many people of faith claim the label "non-religious."

[ddrninjette]

@JMcH "No, James. "Fastest-growing" does not equate to "more ex-Christians than ex-atheists." Also, "non-religious" does not equate to "atheist/agnostic." Many people of faith claim the label "non-religious.""

Of course there are non-religious people who believe in a god, silly. In fact, I know for a fact jwissick knows some. :)

But, I have to admit, I have never heard of a deist being referred to as "person of faith" before. Are you sure you're using the right language?

[truthseeker1973]

@jwissick

My favorite is the 'I'm smarter than every creationist' fallacy. If I can find a creationist smarter than you, you better think harder. I'm willing to bet I can. Every atheist thinks they are a genius. Why? because you are your own god. If you didn't think you were smarter than everyone else, what would you have?

[jwissick]

@truthseeker1973

Anyone who rejects special creation is by definition smarter than creationist. Creationism is the epitome of stupidity.

[truthseeker1973]

@jwissick

Says the apparent shaved ape. How are we to trust a brain that supposedly evolved to know what stupidity really is? Atheists aren't scary. Most of the time they fluff their peacock feathers and insult believers, all while believing life came from no life, something came from nothing, and the impossibility of their religion evolution is quite probable.

[ddrninjette]

@truthseeker1973 "How are we to trust a brain that supposedly evolved to know what stupidity really is?"

That is a REALLY good question, and one I wish I could answer in detail. This is what much of philosophy boils down to: the determination of what is true or false. As far as I can tell, there is no one definitive answer, but I like the idea of an objective reality myself. I'd like to hear your thoughts on the issue before continuing though.

"Atheists aren't scary."

They don't have powers.:)

[ddrninjette]

@truthseeker1973 .. * sarcastic* "life came from no life."

RNA, for example, can evolve on its own. Why can't a piece of RNA form a bi-lipid layer around it over time in the right conditions?

*Sarcasm* "something came from nothing"

I believe things pop into and out of existence all the time. So what's so hard to believe?

"the impossibility of their religion evolution is quite probable."

Oh, silly, evolution isn't a religion, and it has been scientifically verified over and over. :)

[ddrninjette]

@jwissick Oh, you shouldn't say such things. I know that evolution is scientifically and objectively verifiable, but that doesn't give you the right to call someone who doesn't believe in it, "stupid." It's just one belief.

Newton was a freaking genius. Yet look at all the work he did regarding religion and alchemy. He had tons of bad ideas, but he was a brilliant man. Don't disregard people on the basis of a single belief they might have.

[scw060808]

@jwissick Thank you for your permission to pray for you! That made my weekend!! ;)

So, please tell me james - what do believe will happens to you when you die? Do you believe that you have a soul or do you think you will just become worm food when you die?

[jwissick]

@scw060808 Scattered ashes probably... Graves are a waste of space...

[scw060808]

@jwissick Honest answer, thank you. But james, does that make you feel empty? Doesn't that make you feel that you have no true purpose? Doesn't that mean that your life amounts to nothing when it's all said and done?

[jwissick]

@scw060808 Not in the least.

[ddrninjette]

My #1 reason for not attending ballgames? I think baseball is boooooring.

Hahaha, love the "Hipster Jesus" sign. Hipster Christians spread the word to others before they go underground.

[scw060808]

@ddrninjette The hipster Jesus sign was a TOTAL disgrace to the Christ Jesus who gave His life on the Cross for the sins of mankind. It was demeaning, degrading and shows a total disrespect for our Savior. But, Christ is coming back. He won't be hipster Jesus, He WILL BE WARRIOR Jesus and I pity those who have turned their backs on Him and defiled His name.

[ddrninjette]

@scw060808 Huh? I think you're confused. The Hipster Jesus sign was not calling Jesus a hipster. In fact, it was a very positive message about Christ expressed through a variation of a theme as memes tend to be. I'll have you know that *puts on hipster glasses* I was into advice animals before it was cool. Of course I liked it. :)

[scw060808]

@ddrninjette Uh, you might want to actually LISTEN to the animated clip again.

[ddrninjette]

@scw060808 Not right now. Besides, like I said, I love advice animals. Why would it change my mind to listen to it again? What's your favorite hipster meme?

[v1p3rau]

lol - love the ending. Keep up the good work :)

[joeraymusic]

Lol!!!

[gregoryscottsr]

1/2 time at the superbowl

[GodLovesUs100]

lol this was funny.But like aveyowyns said, feeling left out in a church can do some hinderance if you're an outsider seeking to know what church is all about.Even though i'm a Christian, if I ever went to a church where I was left out, i would probably be discouraged since the whole point of church is to have fellowship with the saints and lift up Jesus together.

[staum607]

@GodLovesUs100 While I disagree about outsiders "feeling" welcome (since church isn't for them - though they are welcome), I see your point about a Christian being left out. However, if the point of church is "fellowship with the saints" (which I agree with) and if a church doesn't practice that - is it really a church? Therefore, if that is the case, wouldn't a more appropriate response be to seek out (rather then avoid going to) an actual church? Just my thoughts anyway

[GodLovesUs100]

@staum607 well yes if that is a habitual issue, then seeking another church might be a serious concern.

[scw060808]

@staum607 Well said, stamu. We - followers of Christ - gather to gather to worship and praise our Lord Jesus Christ and to edify one another. The gathering of the the saints is not for the unbeliever / outsider. However, we welcome the outsider / unbeliever with the love of Christ and with hopes God's word will quicken their hearts as it once did us. We are not to build our Church to attract the lost, we are supposed to be ministering to the lost outside of Church, as Christ commanded.

[boanerghes10]

Love it !

[aveyowyns]

#2 is pretty legitimate in my opinion... It's easier to push a camel through the eye of a needle, let's say, then it is for an outsider to enter into a church family.