Kermode Uncut: Obscene Publications Act

[frogtastic1000]

most extreme films are usually crappy and not a good watch so im not bothered either way

[KapStuf]

So if the choice is between meaningless guidelines (likely to 'deprave and corrupt') and a checklist of forbidden topics drawn up by moralising godbotherers ... give me meaningless every time.

Because although a meaningless standard can be made to mean anything, it can also be made to not mean what the godbotherers want.

[horgandavid]

Because they banned 'Human Centipede 2' i went out of my way to watch it. If it was just released normally i wouldn't have bothered and saved myself that horrific ordeal. (of course they joke on me was it was the passed censored version)

[satanidomini]

As Carry On actor Kenneth Williams once said, paraphrasing Jesus Christ in the New Testament, "one is never corrupted by other people's smells, but ones own".

[satanidomini]

"Happy Birthday OPA"...do you think Mark Kermode would be saying that if HE had been prosecuted under the OPA? Well, I have been prosecuted under the OPA ( for trading in "obscene" horror films ) & you have no idea what that entails until you've experienced it, believe me.

Sorry, but the idea of people being "depraved & corrupted" by a fucking MOTION PICTURE in the morally bankrupt age we live in is a joke. Kermode, you don't know what you are talking about I'm afraid. I've BEEN THERE.

[danthemango]

I think it's stupid for anyone to think that any piece of work can be 'corrupting', or if it exists that anyone has the authority to censor it.

The only effective thing we can do is to talk of appropriate audience, to ensure that your 4 year old doesn't walk into a screening of Enter the Void. But that's about it. Every piece of work has the right to find an audience.

[Bassbait]

@danthemango Problem is, corruption starts before birth, and ends right before the viewing of the "morally bad" movie. The morally corrupt and the unstable are corrupted from the moment they start to form to the moment they start watching morally corrupt movies. You aren't morally corrupted by the bad movies, you SEE the bad movies because you're ALREADY morally corrupt. I'm not saying watching The Evil Dead makes you morally corrupt, but morally corrupt people who see it were corrupt already.

[kieralinn]

@Bassbait "Don't blame the movies. Movies don't create psychos, movies just make pyschos more creative!" I love that line in Scream.

[Bassbait]

@kieralinn Frankly never seen Scream, but it's a funny line nonetheless.

[horgandavid]

@kieralinn should be "Don't blame the movies. Movies don't make psychos.... horrific childhoods do..."

[tobimontana69]

the only film that should be banned is bad boys 2

[ec123456789able]

i oppose the OPA and a proposed checklist. as long as a film does not depict scenes of actual violance then we should have no problem with it.

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the idea that films cause people to be morally bad is untrue

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films do not create psychopaths. they enable psychopaths to be more creative. they would still commit despicable crimes regardless of a film that is released.

[TheDensley7]

The daily mail are a bunch of scare mongering cunts.

[SethHesio]

@TheDensley7 here here

[danj85]

I don't think Kermode really believes half the things he says. Perhaps he sees himself as more of a performance artist.

Or the other explanation: the fate of the critic, the years tick by, still no one takes any notice Their opinions and views become ever more outlandish in a desperate attempt for attention. They've got important things to say - if only people would listen!

Instead, they all go to see... "Transformers 2: Revenge of the Fallen".

"The Excorcist" was crap, btw.

[ClockworkDonkey]

Somebody's looking old. Kermode loves the Daily Mail

[ClockworkDonkey]

Somebody's looking old

[LordCustard]

"...the question is this: what do you have instead? And the obvious answer is a checklist."

Or the government could just stop banning entertainment.

[Kitsua]

You're mellowing in your age Marky, but growing wiser too it seems. I like it!

[iamtheblackcrowking]

PIECE TO CAMERAAAAAAAA

[oneworldfamily]

Nice woods.

Did Dr K ever do a review on Harry Potter & the Half Blood Prince? Must have missed it...

[alistores]

yeah it was on the podcast where he was at lords

in short: he liked it

[oneworldfamily]

Goodo! So did I : )

Ta!

[pimlico108]

Heh. You can actually watch the whole of the driller killer here on youtube movies. Craven's last house on the left is also here. These are films i wanted to watch when i was younger mainly because the bbfc said i couldn't. I acquired those along with other banned films from festivals and the like. The old chairman was also very weird when it came to nun chucks?!! I'm glad it's changed over recent years and we're finally being treated as adults.

[kwisnothere]

You know I do love listening to Mark, I find his knowledge and opinions of film endlessly fascinating and entertaining...

BUT I do think he's been talking about "The evil dead" a bit too much of late... and I'd like him to pick another movie to reference, just for a change really.

[PurushaDesa]

The "What do you replace it with?" argument reminds me of that posed by religious apologists. The answer is - drrr-ummm - NOTHING. You do not remove a tumour and then ask, "What shall we put in its place?" Same with supernatural delusions. Same with socially conservative censorship legislation.

[larma7]

Great commentary.

[MonkeyWrench4269101]

anti christ doesnt strike me as my cup of tea, but i don't see why it should be banned thats just retarded, if you don't like something don't watch it, don't force your tastes on others.

[kirkfnw]

@MonkeyWrench4269101 so if a snuff film comes out, your argument for this not to be banned will be just "don't like it? don't watch it!"???

[SethHesio]

@MonkeyWrench4269101 Have you watched Antichrist?

[petertyson2]

I really want to see Anti-Christ after the stink it's kicked up by critics in the media and getting slated at Cannes. It's only been released to a limited ammount of cinemas though in the UK, so looks like I'll have to wait for the DVD. Speaking of DVDs why hasn't the fantastic French horror film A l'interieur (Inside), received a UK release yet?, could it be because it has been a victime of the BBFC or the OPA? hmmmm.

[ehansen3]

It definitely looks like the BBFC have held A l'interieur (Inside) back. It is vile though beyond most. A great film but, vile haha

[petertyson2]

I honestly don't see how A l'interieur could be a victim of the bbfc, I mean the UK is nowadays pretty lenient on extreme horror films especially ones from overseas. An unrated version of the film has been released in North America on dvd which is surprising seeing as the US is one of the last places i'd expect to see that film get a release uncut. I'm starting to think that maybe it's not a problem with the films content or a classification issue, maybe it's a distrobution problem.

[YouDickwod]

Do you speak french?

[petertyson2]

Not fluently no, I know enough to make small talk and light conversation, pour quoi? (why do you ask?) lol.

[notaninvaildname]

Man, I can't wait to see AnitChrist

[detriplea]

Is Kermode seeing what's going on finally?

[kwisnothere]

I don't know, is he??... I thought he always had a quite good grasp of "what's going on"?