Voyna i Mir - Pre-battle Borodino

[dggavrilovic]

ZIVELA MAJKA RUSIJA

[alientoful]

Боже спаси и сохрани. Аминь

[OrthodoxAmerican]

Any idea what the name of this hymn is? Thanks!

[adamantis4657]

@OrthodoxAmerican: It is a hymn to the Most Holy Mother of God!

[OrthodoxAmerican]

@adamantis4657

Yes, I know, but there are many. I wanted to know what the actual name of it is.

[cossack207]

THANK GOD THERE WAS NO ACLU BACK THEN!!

[Gunnarr123abc]

@cossack207

Ok, that actually made me laugh :P

[freebeerfordworkers]

Beautiful and quite a change from the 1930's Russian film "Alexander Nevsky".

Made in Stalins time I think that had a scene when live naked Russian children were sacrificed on a bonfire by an Archbishop.

[lostmymindin79]

Thank you for sharing, it is very moving. The Russian army was always very religious, there were no other equivalent in 18th or 19th Centuries European armies. It reminds me of the beginning of Admiral Kolchack when his battleship goes into the minefield to escape from the German Navy. I have been to Orthodox Churches and Cathedral in the Baltic and always found the experience deeply moving.

[ibraverm]

Не имамы иныя помощи, / не имамы иныя надежды, / разве Тебе, Пречистая Дево. / Ты нам помози, / на Тебе надеемся, и Тобою хвaлимся, / Твои бо есмы рабы, да не постыдимся.

[freebeerfordworkers]

Would move anyone to tears, quite beautiful.

[KFWVAII]

Yes, this is beautiful, and undoubtedly people were more religious in the Western World during that epoch. However, I would suspect that people would become very religious very quickly once they realized that they were about to enter into combat with the Grand Armee led by Napoleon himself. I believe it was Napoleon who originally commented: "God? God is on the side of the greatest number of bayonets."

[vsovereign3]

What song is this? So beautiful & I'm not even Orthodox! I wanna know what song is this =)

[SouthUkraine]

@vsovereign3 Thank you for asking, Words to the song are now available in the description.

[vsovereign3]

@SouthUkraine Thanks for putting the text. Do you know where I can download the song? & Russian text (written in latin alphabet)?

[historygenius]

@SouthUkraine Thanks for the lyrics. Would it be possible to put a rough latin transliteration of the Russian as well?

[Gonnakillyou]

@SouthUkraine In Russian too please? :3

[baeresark]

@vsovereign3 They sing the ordinary Ortodox prayer: "Holy Virgin, save us!" In Russian: "Пресвятая Богородица, спаси нас!" And further: "Save from harm slaves of You, Holy Virgin, for all after God betake us to You, as firm wall and intercessorin...", and so on. In Russian: "Спаси от бед рабы Твоя, Богородице, яко вси по Бозе к Тебе прибегaем, яко нерушимей стене и предстaтельству...", and so on.

[jeandemetz2009]

Russian common people in 1812 don't fought against french revolution as it's priority, the russians priority was to make that Napoleon I don't enter the Motherland Russia. As the 1941-43 russians did against nazi troops. Obviously Stalin propaganda of 1940s and the 1812's Czar with their Aristocrats tried to bring people to their own interests and ambitions, but people fought by their home, their country, their families.

[jeandemetz2009]

Another part of rumor that I said talks about that Napoleon the 1st wanted to enter Moscow because he could obtain by himself that holy treasure only to became more powerful, not for really faith. By that, russians burned Moscow into flames and saved the holy treasure with whole civilian people in St Petersburg, away from Napoleon's ambitions. But I'm not sure if that rumor is true.

[jeandemetz2009]

I'm really not sure, but I heard about a rumor that in Moscow was one of the holy pieces of the Christ Cross, which Jesus was crucified. In 1812 that procession brought that Holy Cross piece from Moscow to Borodino Battlefield to bless all troops. The rumor said that it was the reason of that great devotion act in russians that were known in that time for be very devoted christians.

[bobishrink]

This is the only scene in a film which ALWAYS moves me to tears.

As a Brit married to a Georgian I am considering becoming baptised into the Georgian Orthodox Church, but the Russian tradition of liturgical music is the most emotionally and spiritually uplifting that I know.

Hopefully, soon all Orthodox Christians will be as one.

Da budyet mir.

[Wedihadr11]

Can someone please translate what they are saying in the prayer. I am church of England baptized but I have Eritrean Coptic Orthodox roots and go to Orthodox services during Holy Week. I would really appreciate it. It would also be great if someone can find a word for word written translation from Russian Cyrrilic to Russian Latin and English. Thanks. Great video.

[barbaris666]

Sorry,my friend. It`s not easy to understand all words that they singing

[YUMMYngbird]

1:04 is beautiful,

[HazMatMedia]

I wish I had that kind of faith.

[tenirpaslager]

read the book 1812: Napoleon's Fatal March On Moscow

its brilliant

[calmaciurma]

Stalin was already dead when this movie was made! What are you guys talking about?

[paulhimsel101]

I am an american and my wife is belorussian, all of our children were baptized orthodox, this clip shows the deep faith of the people, thank you for posting it s'bogem

[coolerking04]

I am always surpised to see overt religiousity in Soviet Era films, esp. considering how religion was often portrayed in the educatoin system at the time.

Catholic Spain and Orthodox Russia proved to be the rocks on which the Armies of the French Revolution were smashed.

[mandrazher]

duing Russian impire times, go to churchs for soldiers was compulsory

[helmuthoorn]

They wounded it deeply and bloody, but Protestant Britain and Prussia eventually killed it off.

[pkulesha]

Any idea which choir it was that they used?

[SouthUkraine]

The orthodox priests, and the Red Army actors, All singin along, happily together (ironically)

[andresrojas22]

the international

[SouthUkraine]

I agree with "evilbu" and "pkulesha"

The ironic thing is that all the actors in that scene were used from an actuall brigade in the soviet army.

[mwillis1000]

@SouthUkraine

What is the song called?

[pkulesha]

Pretty awesome scene. I would imagine that it captures the moments just before the battle perfectly...

[sergeontheloose]

Absolutely.

The day before Borodino, there was also a strong battle on Shevardino redut with Murat avant garde.

Russians lost some 10 000 casualties, so most in the russian knew that the upcoming battle will be the last for many of them.

[evilbu]

Well I guess I'll be the first to comment. This is a very powerful scene. When you are not familiar with movies from the Soviet Union, one might be surprised to see such explicit expressions of (orthodox) christianity.

[YuriPRIME]

Despite Lenin's talking about expelling religion from life, all other country leaders knew that without strong bond of nationality they wont win war or any other conflict, thats Why Stalin used national propaganda from very first days of war. "Fighting for Motherland" "Russian Pride", whole lots of medals with historical Russian refferences, movies about Ivan the Terrible and Alexander Nevsky - it was all a plan to create a strong nationalist bond

[YuriPRIME]

... all of them realized that inter-nationalism works bad for nation and is a fail in comunist ideology. There fore, all socialistic countries were in fact national-socialists (more or less) and thats why Soviets made so much historical patriotic movies. And I must admitt War and Peace is a masterpiece of that time... incredible picture! Trueli epic with great acting and feel of russian history.

[evilbu]

I've always found it ironic that Stalin certainly approved of "positive depictions" of monarchs like Ivan the Terrible, Nevsky, while the Bolsheviks were more than happy to get rid of the last Russian tsar. Did Stalin ever explain his view on this?

[buran225]

Stalin's positive depictions of monarchs and aristocrats were most likely due to World War II. An appeal to Russians to remember how Nevsky valiantly defended Russia from the Teutonic Order was an appeal for Russians to defend their homeland from Germany.

[buran225]

Stalin was also a "Greater Russian". Despite being a Georgian himself, Stalin believed in the power of Russia, in expanding her to become a power in her own right. Perhaps the glorification of old russian figures was his inner feelings of russian nationalism.

[YuriPRIME]

Its quite simple. Soviet Union needed Heroes and Examples in their propaganda policy. They needed heros in working class, factories, field, in battle, in history, and so on, it was all a part of Education. Stalin knew that schools may teach you some knowledge, but nothing injects as much values and so quick as epic movies.