They don't "go" anywhere. When a person--or any living organism--dies it simply ceases to exist as a conscious entity. All cellular activity stops after death occurs and it is the functioning of an organism that gives it existence in any meaningful sense. Consciousness is the functioning of a living brain and constitutes our existence. When you die you don't "go" anywhere.
you are in for such an eternal surprise i big mouth i wish so bad that i could be there before you get cast into eternal hell to poke you in the eyeball with my finger saying i told you so you idiot now look where you put yourself! but God wont let me do that becaseu it is his justice that you will deal with not mans, ohhh you wait and see !
Where is Josef Mengele now? WHAT A FREAKING DUMB ASS QUESTION!!!! Hello? He's DEAD! I have no reason to think there's some eternal place of pain/suffering, nor is there a 6 flag entertainment park in the sky or in another demension. Get real people. HELL is a MYTH
All sinners will be punished in hell forever. This, God has revealed in his Word. Because God is holy, holy, holy, sin must be punished. There is hope! Jesus Christ took upon himself the wrath of God for those who would believe. Turn away from your sin and trust in Jesus Christ for your salvation today!
wats song is this.??they make alot of sence but if ultimite pain is the unltimite punishment.why would they do the same thing over and over again wen are bodies develope
@ahmedhashem2008 WRONG! More and more people are realizing that your PATHETIC religion is NOTHING more than a tactic to control people via fear/reward. Religion is on the decline and has been for years. Atheism is on the increase.
I do not believe in hell or heaven! Live like there is no tomorrow! If you see bad people, punish them right there, right away! DO NOT let them get away from their badness while they are alive!!!!! Bad people should be punished right away!!!!!
I'm so tired of Christians that scare off nonbelievers by claiming there's only burning everlasting Hell, Hell, Hell and Heaven. It's not just black and white. God is still a just and gracious God.
Joh 14:2"In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you."
Mat 5:19"he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."
"I'm so tired of Christians that scare off nonbelievers by claiming there's only burning everlasting Hell, Hell, Hell and Heaven"
THEY SHOULD BE TERRIFIED
Wasnt jesus the one who gave us the doctrine of hell? wasnt he crucified for the way he preached?
It is black and white my friend, your either entered through the narrow gate and are on the VERY narrow path or your on the broad way that leads to destruction.
He is loving and gracious - so much so that He gave His only begotten son. (John 3:16) And He is also just - so much so that He gave His only begotten Son to be tortured to death and beyond by both the cross and our sins.
Meditate on what Jesus did and gave up on the cross. And once some of the import begins to overwhelm your soul, then ask yourself: if men can someone save themselves from their own sins - they why did Jesus bother with the shame and suffering of the cross?
@VorthosForum you said, " He is loving and gracious - so much so that He gave His only begotten son. (John 3:16) And He is also just - so much so that He gave His only begotten Son to be tortured to death and beyond by both the cross and our sins." Where's your proof??!! Making decisions to believe VIA faith does NOT mean they're true!
@MrSlippin22 So according to God's laws, I am allowed to own and beat slaves, murder children, rape women, kill millions of people who work on Sunday? Doesn't sound right at all
your not getting the fullness of the truth, your being decived by Satans lies. dont forget Satan is not an ameature deciever. get back into the word of God find out what its truly written and avoid all deceptions .
your another one missing the point entirely i can fight against Satans deception alone you need to fight it too. im telling you there is a hell and your really in for a huge eternal surprise! im sorry bro , find out what Jesus christ truly did . ok please?
@Complex1989 you said, "God is still a just and gracious God." Well, before you can say that you need to show proof of your claim or it's BS like all of the rest of claims unsubstantiated.
Reviewing the video a second time I think you are missing something important.Since you mentioned Nazi Germany and the horrors of Mengele and Hitler.You didn't mention that those innocent Jews, what was their fate? Hell.
Only Christians go to heaven(unless they are not repentant of their sins. In addition these two didn't do this by themselves.
Nazi Germany during this time was and now(60%) a Christian nation.
The issue of good people going to hell was in regard to the video. Claiming that Hitler and Mengle would go to hell because of their actions. The problem is with this example Nazi Germany at the time was about 98% Christian. The majority of people killed from the Holocaust were European Jews. Jews are not Christian so they went to hell as well. That is what I meant, Good people go to hell too.
Jews don't go to hell. God made a promise the Abraham's people(Israel) in Genesis, and I can't remember one verse that states He broke His promise. The Israelic people were and still are God's nation.
If you believe Jews go to Hell, you might as well believe Moses, Abraham, Isaiah, babies, infants, mentally disabled people, etc. are going to burn for eternity Hell too. God is still a just God and will do what is right.
jews dont believe jesus is there messiah, if you reject the son you reject the father as well, there condemnation is just as the pharasees, those that were converted by god became judeo-christians. Christianity has its roots it judaism remember? abraham said to his son isaac that god himself would provide a lamb (gen 22:8), and indeed he did.
In reading your posts (thank you for replying). I am summarizing;
It doesnt matter if you were born before Christ your going to hell or a person avoids hell based on the cultural moral codes at the time of their existence. In the end its based upon Jesuss opinion and can not be fully understood in some legal framework. Would this be correct?
Regarding the recently found tribe in the Amazon Jungle: I assume they practice ceremonial ritual to G*d. various forms of rituals; marriage, birth, puberty, the hunt, death, etc. I dont understand why their expression towards the divine is any less than any other religious expression. Doesnt G*d hear their suffering or their joy?
If anyone is killed for whatever reason doesnt G*d shed a tear? This tribe for whatever reason has not gone threw the technological struggles as other cultures does this make them less? There expression towards the divine is from experience. Just because they were not versed in the bible makes their practice less viable than a Christian living in east coast of America?
You mentioned as decedent of Scandinavia which is a region not a country has been elevated by the gospel. Its populations forced to immigrate to the US because of religious warfare between Christians. You heckle this native tribes experience of G*d because its not biblical based? Thousands of years these people lived in an unreachable area in the Amazon jungle, unreachable by Christians or by G*d? Doesnt G*d knows of their existence?
The better question is- Where do ALL people go who reject Christ and the gospel? The answer, of course, is hell and eternal torment. That's justice for the sinner. The wages of sin is death, BUT the free gift of God is eternal LIFE through Jesus Christ our Lord. Hell is NOT unfair, because we've ALL sinned and come short of God's glory and holiness. Christ's free gift is the means of escape- if we receive Him by faith alone, we receive eternal life. It's not based on works, but on grace alone!
What confuses me is the 99% of the world who never heard of Christ, entire Asian continent, entire America continent.
This prior to European colonization.
Examples:
Chou Dynasty, Minoans, Mycenaean, Babylonian, Egyptians, Sumer, Assyrian, Olmec, Carthage, Rome, Teothicuan, all theses civilizations across (plus others) the globe never heard of Christ or the gospels so what was their fate?
Thanks for your thoughtful question. It is a common one people struggle with when faced with the sobering truth of scripture: the wages of sin is death and only Christ's sacrifice on the cross, applied to the sinner's account by grace through faith, can atone for sin. This means that there are many people who will go to hell after they die. Most of us have no problem with the Mengeles of the world going there - in fact it seems just.
But what of those, past and present, who through the "accident" of birth live in a culture where the Gospel has never been heard? There are a number of Biblically informed answers to this that basically fall into two categories:
1. That tragically they have been lost. This should then impassion Christians to reach the world with the good news of Jesus Christ. (And as of 2008, most of it has been to some degree.) We can bridle at the loss of the unreached and cry "Not fair" - but what is the point of the fallen and finite questioning the infinite, perfect God?
2. That some of these are saved by Christ is a way that is beyond our precise understanding as He mercifully responds to their struggles (flawed and futile though they may be) to obey the moral law that all men - as image bearers of God -- have written on their hearts and can see reflected in the testimony of creation (Rom. 2:13-16, 1:18-20)
1. God is perfect love, mercy and justice - and on that day when the veil is lifted and we no longer look through a dark glass, everybody, including those whose condemnation is revealed, will acknowledge this.
2. Christ and only Christ can save. Precisely how and for whom He does it is for the Trinity to know and decree.
3. Our love for our fellow men should inspire all Christians to devote themselves - hearts, minds, souls and strengths - to the Great Commission...
..not only for the hope of heaven but also because the Gospel when implanted in people's hearts brings life, liberty and blessings in this present world.
I can guarantee you that the members of the tribe that was just found in Brazil are not experiencing an abundant life by the standards of anyone other than a P.C. anthropologist. (Just like my ancestors in Scandinavia were a mess until the Gospel took hold.) Also, that right now some missionaries are praying for and planning to reach them.
If you are genuinely concerned for the souls of those in unreached people groups (and I trust that you are and not just using the seeming "unfairness" of God allowing some people to go to hell as an excuse to reject Him and His revealed Word - as some do) then I would encourage you to pray for that tribe, for God to send workers into the harvest field (Luke 10:2), to perhaps support them with your finances - and, yes, perhaps to even consider being trained and going yourself!
How bad do we have to be to deserve hell? Just one hair short of perfection. The difference between me and the "Angel of Auschwitz" is the difference between a gnat and a flea before the most perfect person who has ever lived.
Thank God - the Father, Son and Holy Spirit - for the sacrifice of Christ for my sin and the exchange of His righteousness for the filthy rags of my own self-righteousness.
you dont have to be bad all you gotta do is think that the son he sent is a joke and that will do it! find out why Jesus came to die for your sins and you wont have to worry about it
It is appointed unto man to die once, but after this the judgment. Hebrews 9:27
It is a fearful thing to fall into the Hands of the Living God. Hebrews 10:31
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me. John 14:6
Anyone who dies rejecting Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour will spend eternity in hell. There are no "good people"; we are all wretched and filthy sinners who need to be washed in the shed Blood of Jesus Christ.
You fucking religious nuts make the world into a living hell. Your so-called "hell" would be better than listening to you low-intelligence crap
Mortenstarheimen 1 week ago
They don't "go" anywhere. When a person--or any living organism--dies it simply ceases to exist as a conscious entity. All cellular activity stops after death occurs and it is the functioning of an organism that gives it existence in any meaningful sense. Consciousness is the functioning of a living brain and constitutes our existence. When you die you don't "go" anywhere.
effee1000 3 weeks ago
How teh fook did I get here?
charles648 3 months ago
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ZeusHelios 9 months ago
you are in for such an eternal surprise i big mouth i wish so bad that i could be there before you get cast into eternal hell to poke you in the eyeball with my finger saying i told you so you idiot now look where you put yourself! but God wont let me do that becaseu it is his justice that you will deal with not mans, ohhh you wait and see !
MrSlippin22 11 months ago
The bad people go to the same place good people go, in the ground, there is no afterlife.
TwitchyJuggalotus 11 months ago
Where is Josef Mengele now? WHAT A FREAKING DUMB ASS QUESTION!!!! Hello? He's DEAD! I have no reason to think there's some eternal place of pain/suffering, nor is there a 6 flag entertainment park in the sky or in another demension. Get real people. HELL is a MYTH
mythicalhell 11 months ago
im non violent ive been in a few fights i couldn't prevent i smoke and drink and im gay will i be going to hell
blazerrips91 1 year ago
All sinners will be punished in hell forever. This, God has revealed in his Word. Because God is holy, holy, holy, sin must be punished. There is hope! Jesus Christ took upon himself the wrath of God for those who would believe. Turn away from your sin and trust in Jesus Christ for your salvation today!
booksandvideos 1 year ago
wats song is this.??they make alot of sence but if ultimite pain is the unltimite punishment.why would they do the same thing over and over again wen are bodies develope
alexis51u117 2 years ago
Lake of Fire by Nirvana.
bumpers17921 2 years ago
They go to HELL.
Srenfro2002 2 years ago
they dont go to heaven where the angels fly
they go to a lake of fire and fry
see em again on the fourth of july
thebiglebowski2317 3 years ago
@thebiglebowski2317 you can take your religion and STUFF IT in your ......
mythicalhell 11 months ago
why they didn't interviewed muslims persons and take there opinions all this pepole whom been asked not believe in any thing!!
ahmedhashem2008 3 years ago
@ahmedhashem2008 Because everyone knows Islam is a false religion.
5starsoldier 2 years ago
well all pepole will believe one day, sooner.
ahmedhashem2008 3 years ago
@ahmedhashem2008 WRONG! More and more people are realizing that your PATHETIC religion is NOTHING more than a tactic to control people via fear/reward. Religion is on the decline and has been for years. Atheism is on the increase.
may gOD be less
mythicalhell 11 months ago
I do not believe in hell or heaven! Live like there is no tomorrow! If you see bad people, punish them right there, right away! DO NOT let them get away from their badness while they are alive!!!!! Bad people should be punished right away!!!!!
madeinchina247 3 years ago
Where is the Bush Cla in this VD? Stupid Ignorant and hipocrit Americans!
ChupaCabrasPT 3 years ago
They go to a lake of fire and fry.
therightdivide 3 years ago
Kurt and Nirvana forever!
ChupaCabrasPT 3 years ago
I'm so tired of Christians that scare off nonbelievers by claiming there's only burning everlasting Hell, Hell, Hell and Heaven. It's not just black and white. God is still a just and gracious God.
Joh 14:2"In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you."
Mat 5:19"he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."
Complex1989 3 years ago
"I'm so tired of Christians that scare off nonbelievers by claiming there's only burning everlasting Hell, Hell, Hell and Heaven"
THEY SHOULD BE TERRIFIED
Wasnt jesus the one who gave us the doctrine of hell? wasnt he crucified for the way he preached?
It is black and white my friend, your either entered through the narrow gate and are on the VERY narrow path or your on the broad way that leads to destruction.
fishboi87 3 years ago
He is loving and gracious - so much so that He gave His only begotten son. (John 3:16) And He is also just - so much so that He gave His only begotten Son to be tortured to death and beyond by both the cross and our sins.
Meditate on what Jesus did and gave up on the cross. And once some of the import begins to overwhelm your soul, then ask yourself: if men can someone save themselves from their own sins - they why did Jesus bother with the shame and suffering of the cross?
VorthosForum 3 years ago
@VorthosForum you said, " He is loving and gracious - so much so that He gave His only begotten son. (John 3:16) And He is also just - so much so that He gave His only begotten Son to be tortured to death and beyond by both the cross and our sins." Where's your proof??!! Making decisions to believe VIA faith does NOT mean they're true!
mythicalhell 11 months ago
This is true for those who live by his Laws (Bible)! God is Just ! there is a Hell for those who take hiim lightly!
MrSlippin22 1 year ago
@MrSlippin22 So according to God's laws, I am allowed to own and beat slaves, murder children, rape women, kill millions of people who work on Sunday? Doesn't sound right at all
TwitchyJuggalotus 11 months ago
your not getting the fullness of the truth, your being decived by Satans lies. dont forget Satan is not an ameature deciever. get back into the word of God find out what its truly written and avoid all deceptions .
MrSlippin22 11 months ago
your another one missing the point entirely i can fight against Satans deception alone you need to fight it too. im telling you there is a hell and your really in for a huge eternal surprise! im sorry bro , find out what Jesus christ truly did . ok please?
MrSlippin22 11 months ago
@MrSlippin22 are you fucking kidding me? there is no hell, and there is proof there is no God, stop believing in Santa Claus.
TwitchyJuggalotus 11 months ago
@TwitchyJuggalotus
..proof that there is no God.. RE: Where the fuck is that proof?! References, sources???????????
spa05akw 8 months ago
@Complex1989 you said, "God is still a just and gracious God." Well, before you can say that you need to show proof of your claim or it's BS like all of the rest of claims unsubstantiated.
mythicalhell 11 months ago
Why do good people go to hell?
Reviewing the video a second time I think you are missing something important.Since you mentioned Nazi Germany and the horrors of Mengele and Hitler.You didn't mention that those innocent Jews, what was their fate? Hell.
Only Christians go to heaven(unless they are not repentant of their sins. In addition these two didn't do this by themselves.
Nazi Germany during this time was and now(60%) a Christian nation.
Why do good people go to hell?
jdquarg 3 years ago
but no one does good, no not even one. -Romans 3:10
good people dont go to hell but the problem is that they dont exist.
you make christians sound like they are a type of people, but they are a people of every tribe tounge and nation.
fishboi87 3 years ago
I am sorry I don't have a clue of what you just have written. ???
jdquarg 3 years ago
The issue of good people going to hell was in regard to the video. Claiming that Hitler and Mengle would go to hell because of their actions. The problem is with this example Nazi Germany at the time was about 98% Christian. The majority of people killed from the Holocaust were European Jews. Jews are not Christian so they went to hell as well. That is what I meant, Good people go to hell too.
jdquarg 3 years ago
"Good people go to hell too"
that would make god unjust, but thats not what scripture teaches.
fishboi87 3 years ago
my friend we all go to hell by default. Its that god saves some for his own glory and lets the rest die in there sins.
fishboi87 3 years ago
So jews deserve heaven becuase of what the nazis did to them even though they reject jesus as there messiah?
fishboi87 3 years ago
Jews don't go to hell. God made a promise the Abraham's people(Israel) in Genesis, and I can't remember one verse that states He broke His promise. The Israelic people were and still are God's nation.
If you believe Jews go to Hell, you might as well believe Moses, Abraham, Isaiah, babies, infants, mentally disabled people, etc. are going to burn for eternity Hell too. God is still a just God and will do what is right.
Mathew 5:3-10 supports my statements too.
Complex1989 3 years ago
jews dont believe jesus is there messiah, if you reject the son you reject the father as well, there condemnation is just as the pharasees, those that were converted by god became judeo-christians. Christianity has its roots it judaism remember? abraham said to his son isaac that god himself would provide a lamb (gen 22:8), and indeed he did.
fishboi87 3 years ago
What about the G
jdquarg 3 years ago
In reading your posts (thank you for replying). I am summarizing;
It doesnt matter if you were born before Christ your going to hell or a person avoids hell based on the cultural moral codes at the time of their existence. In the end its based upon Jesuss opinion and can not be fully understood in some legal framework. Would this be correct?
jdquarg 3 years ago
Regarding the recently found tribe in the Amazon Jungle: I assume they practice ceremonial ritual to G*d. various forms of rituals; marriage, birth, puberty, the hunt, death, etc. I dont understand why their expression towards the divine is any less than any other religious expression. Doesnt G*d hear their suffering or their joy?
jdquarg 3 years ago
If anyone is killed for whatever reason doesnt G*d shed a tear? This tribe for whatever reason has not gone threw the technological struggles as other cultures does this make them less? There expression towards the divine is from experience. Just because they were not versed in the bible makes their practice less viable than a Christian living in east coast of America?
jdquarg 3 years ago
You mentioned as decedent of Scandinavia which is a region not a country has been elevated by the gospel. Its populations forced to immigrate to the US because of religious warfare between Christians. You heckle this native tribes experience of G*d because its not biblical based? Thousands of years these people lived in an unreachable area in the Amazon jungle, unreachable by Christians or by G*d? Doesnt G*d knows of their existence?
I thank you for your response.
jdquarg 3 years ago
Its nothing but sin before the one true god because its not to the one true but but many pagan false gods that dont exist.
fishboi87 3 years ago
"Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God" by Jonathan Edwards is certainly worth reading.
PTWTMinistries 3 years ago
The better question is- Where do ALL people go who reject Christ and the gospel? The answer, of course, is hell and eternal torment. That's justice for the sinner. The wages of sin is death, BUT the free gift of God is eternal LIFE through Jesus Christ our Lord. Hell is NOT unfair, because we've ALL sinned and come short of God's glory and holiness. Christ's free gift is the means of escape- if we receive Him by faith alone, we receive eternal life. It's not based on works, but on grace alone!
bberchin 3 years ago
Brazil reveals 'uncontacted' Amazon tribe 5/30/08
Thanks for the reply towards my sin question.
What confuses me is the 99% of the world who never heard of Christ, entire Asian continent, entire America continent.
This prior to European colonization.
Examples:
Chou Dynasty, Minoans, Mycenaean, Babylonian, Egyptians, Sumer, Assyrian, Olmec, Carthage, Rome, Teothicuan, all theses civilizations across (plus others) the globe never heard of Christ or the gospels so what was their fate?
Thanks
jdquarg 3 years ago
Dear jdquarg:
Thanks for your thoughtful question. It is a common one people struggle with when faced with the sobering truth of scripture: the wages of sin is death and only Christ's sacrifice on the cross, applied to the sinner's account by grace through faith, can atone for sin. This means that there are many people who will go to hell after they die. Most of us have no problem with the Mengeles of the world going there - in fact it seems just.
VorthosForum 3 years ago
But what of those, past and present, who through the "accident" of birth live in a culture where the Gospel has never been heard? There are a number of Biblically informed answers to this that basically fall into two categories:
VorthosForum 3 years ago
1. That tragically they have been lost. This should then impassion Christians to reach the world with the good news of Jesus Christ. (And as of 2008, most of it has been to some degree.) We can bridle at the loss of the unreached and cry "Not fair" - but what is the point of the fallen and finite questioning the infinite, perfect God?
VorthosForum 3 years ago
2. That some of these are saved by Christ is a way that is beyond our precise understanding as He mercifully responds to their struggles (flawed and futile though they may be) to obey the moral law that all men - as image bearers of God -- have written on their hearts and can see reflected in the testimony of creation (Rom. 2:13-16, 1:18-20)
This is an area of mystery.
What we do know for certain is:
VorthosForum 3 years ago
1. God is perfect love, mercy and justice - and on that day when the veil is lifted and we no longer look through a dark glass, everybody, including those whose condemnation is revealed, will acknowledge this.
2. Christ and only Christ can save. Precisely how and for whom He does it is for the Trinity to know and decree.
3. Our love for our fellow men should inspire all Christians to devote themselves - hearts, minds, souls and strengths - to the Great Commission...
VorthosForum 3 years ago
..not only for the hope of heaven but also because the Gospel when implanted in people's hearts brings life, liberty and blessings in this present world.
I can guarantee you that the members of the tribe that was just found in Brazil are not experiencing an abundant life by the standards of anyone other than a P.C. anthropologist. (Just like my ancestors in Scandinavia were a mess until the Gospel took hold.) Also, that right now some missionaries are praying for and planning to reach them.
VorthosForum 3 years ago
If you are genuinely concerned for the souls of those in unreached people groups (and I trust that you are and not just using the seeming "unfairness" of God allowing some people to go to hell as an excuse to reject Him and His revealed Word - as some do) then I would encourage you to pray for that tribe, for God to send workers into the harvest field (Luke 10:2), to perhaps support them with your finances - and, yes, perhaps to even consider being trained and going yourself!
VorthosForum 3 years ago
very convicting and challenging
arkire07 3 years ago
Wow! My mind has been blown.
acting247 3 years ago
How bad do we have to be to deserve hell? Just one hair short of perfection. The difference between me and the "Angel of Auschwitz" is the difference between a gnat and a flea before the most perfect person who has ever lived.
Thank God - the Father, Son and Holy Spirit - for the sacrifice of Christ for my sin and the exchange of His righteousness for the filthy rags of my own self-righteousness.
dramadogma 3 years ago
you dont have to be bad all you gotta do is think that the son he sent is a joke and that will do it! find out why Jesus came to die for your sins and you wont have to worry about it
MrSlippin22 11 months ago
in hell...
feba2 3 years ago 2
It is appointed unto man to die once, but after this the judgment. Hebrews 9:27
It is a fearful thing to fall into the Hands of the Living God. Hebrews 10:31
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me. John 14:6
Anyone who dies rejecting Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour will spend eternity in hell. There are no "good people"; we are all wretched and filthy sinners who need to be washed in the shed Blood of Jesus Christ.
ProclaimHisWord 3 years ago 4