Alice in Wonderland - The Walrus and The Carpenter

[ArmyAngel1234567890]

Yay they died!!

[Ariakas7708]

Matt daemon in dogma refers this to organized religion, I see it as the right and left propaganda machine :D

[missaoun1]

I cannot believe how many interpretations there are for these characters. Firstly Walt Disney got this from a poem written by Lewis Carroll, so any crazy analogies about Disney and his political views has nothing to do with it. Also I'm pretty sure Carroll wrote this poem for the imagination of children and that the character of the Walrus was chosen by the illustrator. I know you all feel like you must analyse and look for symbolism in everything, but you're sounding as mad as hatters.

[xCateyez]

@missaoun1 And that's a bad thing? :3

[missaoun1]

@xCateyez Well yeah, if you allow that interpretation to associate or incorrectly assume one's political/ religious views and then criticise them for it.

[xCateyez]

@missaoun1 Sorry if it wasn't clear, but I meant the "mad as hatters" part. See, because I'm a fan of this movie and whatnot. I agree, people have a tendency to be overly analytic. But being as mad as a hatter is something we should all strive for. Ahahah cx

[corwinorr]

Where's the Eggman?

[bander9101112]

What's the point of the "R"? I've never understood it...

[tr230023]

@bander9101112 you only eat oysters during months with an "R" in it...

[MejoradaDj]

My favorite version xD

[ShallowSleeper0129]

I love this movie and this song but my mind can't help but drift to the American Mcgee

s verison...

[AmeliaJane74]

Guys, seriously, it's just a children's story. Is that really so hard to believe? I don't understand why people feel the need to see hidden messages and other nonsense where there are none.

[offtosiberia]

Why was water coming out of the Walrus's eyes

[dagobar560]

@offtosiberia those were tears. The walrus regretted eating the oysters.

[SparkyAllen]

Actually this version of the story looks more like an analogy about the danger of capitalism.

Just look at the walrus with his top hat, cigar, and mustache. He even screws the carpenter out of his share of the helpless masses.

Not very surprising if you know anything about Walt Disney and his political views.

[AnaferMangastyle]

I feel more sorry for the poor hard-working carpenter, he does all the work for the walrus and what does the walrus do in return for him? eat all the oysters for all himself because he is greedy.

[TheDisneydude1333]

Did anybody else notice that the oysters are all girls?



[BillysOtherAccount]

I wish I could light matches on people's noses.

[LunaBell08]

This two scared the living crap out of me when I was younger o.o And then I played the American Mcgee's Alice games. (Including and especially Alice: Madness Returns) And Alice in Wonderland was taken to a whole new level of creepyness xD

[JadeSlucock94]

how is his cigar still smoking under water??

[chickenanon]

@JadeSlucock94 It is not smoking. It is clearly bubbling. -snorts-

Glad I'm not the only one to wonder. xD

[JadeSlucock94]

@chickenanon oh thanks lol

[SweetPuffyPenguins]

First traumatizing Disney movie as a kid.... no wonder my mom said to skip this part O.o.....

[lauraisamazingness]

OMW HE ATE THEM!!!

[OtakuFangirlZ]

@lassegg Then maybe super mario should watch this. I wonder what he would say... Mamamia!

[izzy1033]

lol i love this film ;) :D funny song

[Cookiemonster7790]

I was in the play through the looking glass and I was Tweedledee but our song was a little different but its the thought that counts

[thenutintheushanka18]

I don't think we should look too much into symbolism here, because Carroll couldn't decide what to call the main characters. He told the illustrator that the first character could be a walrus or a marmot, and the second could be a carpenter, a butterfly, or a baronet, as all fit the meter of the poem.

[261BlahBlahBlah]

'The time has come', the Walrus said, 'to speak of other things. Of shoes, and ships, and ceiling wax, cabbages and kings.'

[smudgetaz1]

yuck, i hate oysters!! Kings and cavages eat poorly.lol

[rachaaelt]

this film especially at this bit, creeped me out so much!

[imama72]

The voice of the Walrus is the same voice as Colonel Haithi in the Jungle Book

[ntcgman]

3:37 If the US construction industry built stuff THAT fast, unions be outta luck! lol

[piperlovesbeauty]

he always reminded me of a MOLESTER. gaawd. stupid walrus.

[Synmeria]

That's a rape!

[OtakuFangirlZ]

I swear, this movie was trippy when i was a kid. Now it seems even more crazier than before.

[lassegg]

@OtakuFangirlZ You should watch this film while tripping on mushrooms; it gets completely logical!

[aurash91]

man this movie tripped me out as a kid.

[tomitchsan]

Oyster season has come. I remembered this scene when I was eating at the oyster restaurant last night!

[MultiRiley69]

Why would he eat thsoe little guys!? I never recoverd from that scene....

[partyboy350]

oysters....the natural aphrodisiac haha

[GreyWolfGirl]

Where did his cigarette go? 2:07-2:15

[jaxblade07]

This scene fucked me up as a kid

[XMoscoMoonX]

Hmmm does anyone else think this carries some kind of warning against sexual predators? Stealing innocence and youth?

[shaunasaidWHAT]

@XMoscoMoonX .. I kinda see it, like don't trust strangers... But eating someone wouldn't be sexual... well in their context anyway.

[XMoscoMoonX]

@shaunasaidWHAT

yeah I guess it's just because they all had skirts so they all looked like little girls, and the whole 'seafood' aspect and isn't that what they call it as an inuendo? Eating someone out? Haha I know digusting, but I think its about what you take from it and your own interpretation, but it's defo about not disobaying your parents and being lead astray by strangers. xx

[dragonman86]

@XMoscoMoonX its a play on religion, the carpenter represents jesus, and i aint 100% but i think the walrus represents the buddha.

[lassegg]

@XMoscoMoonX Definitely! But one can also see it as the Walrus is representing capitalism. He lures the oysters with false promises and music, and eats them, just as capitalism lures us with commercials, making us do shit we wouldn't normally do; hence eating our souls..

[XMoscoMoonX]

@lassegg

Yeah it's something that could be taken many ways, I was thinking more because it's a childrens movie and the lessons it teaches kids, also because the walrus is male and the oysters are female. But thats the beauty of it, it's all down to interpretation and I can defo see it from your side as well =D

[PunkSponge2013]

The oysters were adorable! dammit!

[phantomstriker1000]

THANKS TO THIS SONG I DON'T BELIEVE IN RELIGION.

THANKS TO THE MOVIE "DOGMA"

[MyInventiveUserName]

NO! NOT THE OYSTERS!

[Anathar88]

I suddenly have a craving for oysters now....

[liz72098]

The oysters disliked this

[sonnychik]

How could anyone dislike this? Its awesome. :)

[TheForbiddenNerd]

Cabbages and kings?

[ctolstad]

does anyone else feel sad for those poor little oysters?! this has disturbed me since childhood. they are just so damn cute with their big eyes and bonnets. so blindly trusting.. :(

[TheForbiddenNerd]

@ctolstad i feel more sorry for the carpenter, the carpenter just wants to work and live well, but the walrus just wants to be lazy and eat all the food, i mean the carpenter looks starvimg :/, fucking walruses

[dragonman86]

@ctolstad and to top it all off, it was written about religion. what sad little oysters...

[gabyroxursox]

@ctolstad i know i like cried for themm /:

[Maratona1969]

@ctolstad this fuckin piece is an allegory for pedophiles...the small like-a-kid dressed oysters in front of the old fat man..get eaten (abused)...dogdson (or carrol,fake name..) was accused by many historians to be a pedophile himself.dont want that shit,turn off disney.

[heisatai]

@Maratona1969 Nonsense. The whole piece is clearly an allegory for the tragedy that is modern organized religion. Th Walrus, with his great girth resembling Buddha, and his tusks paying homage to the Hindu god Brahma, along with his pal The Carpenter(a clear parallel to Jesus, who was himself a carpenter's son), blindly lead a group of willing followers to their ultimate demise.

[gusty01]

@heisatai Somebody watched Dogma...Or maybe not (It's a pretty obvious analogy) haha

[000MidnightSun]

YES

[utubeusername2057678]

that walrus is a pedophile

[Taryn1547]

"THE TIME HAS COME" the walrus said!

[Overgrued]

love the marxist subtext

[Kaiser325]

@Overgrued Nothing like 50's and 60's anti-communist subliminal education :-)

If you are into the topic I suggest reading "Nineteen eighty four" or "Animal farm" by George Orwell.

[Overgrued]

@Kaiser325 There's also the reading, you see, where the Walrus is capitalism and the Carpenter is the working classes.

[Kaiser325]

@Overgrued I agree however, I believe that the the director's intention was to have a Stalin style walrus representing the communist political classes and the "dumb" carpenter representing the un-educated and mislead working class.

[hardrockerofsoccer]

we're cabbages, and kings!