According to their own brainless doctrines, they should not require money at all. But then, why else found a fraudulant and criminal organization? Why else cling to this pathetic earthly existance if they think they can continue a better Thetan existance elsewhere? Because they believe it? NO, they KNOW there is nothing beyond this. Death is final.
I HAVE BEN MANY TIMES ON THE FREEWINDS AND I CAN SAY THAT IS ONE OF THE BETTER PLACES ON EARTH.
I HAVE DONE MANY COURSES ..IS A FANTASTIC SHIP IN THE MIDDEL OF CARIBIAN ILANDS ,THE FOOD WAS FANTASTIC IN AN OT ENVIRONMENT ...BARBADOS..S.LUCIA AND MANY OTHER PLACES I KEEP IN MY MIND LIKE THE MOST BEAUTIFUL EXPERIENCES IN MY ENTIRE LIFE.
REALLY I CANNOT UNDERSTAND THIS ORRIBLES CRITICS. NOBODY SHOULD BELIEVE THIS SUPPRESSIVS WHO ONLY TRY TO STOP MAN TO REACH FREEDOM AND HAPPINESS WHIT SCIENTOLOGY
@lupone20001 "Suppressives"? Yes, "SP' is the label the cult generously applies to anyone exposing its filth. Are you awere of the Hubbard policy of Fair Game, instructiong to lie to, steal from, and "destroy" such people? Your cult instructs to DESTROY anyone disagreeing with them.
@lupone20001 So how much money have you already flushed that DRAIN of yours? How many thousands of dollars worth of yelling at ashtrays and touching walls? If the tech really worked, your OTs could just postulate all critics gone. They could postulate Ideal Orgs finished. Yet your publics are being regged for more money to the point of flipping out and blowing. Your stats crash, DM is having a hard time covering it up with MADE UP numbers in speeches and magazines Wake up, puppet.
Excellent raw material proving "cult" mindset, first couple minutes, of this video. Realizing that the members don't even realize they are perpetrating "cult" mentality on their fellows, that totally is the scene, however psychologists and cult experts lay this out. And Mike Rinder as ex PR man, explains how the PR people for Scientology lie, like the Aussie PR lady lies!
@marcotai Too many firsthand accounts, all these ex members can't be lying, and it is NOT just abused wife syndrome. It's group member abuse cult mindset syndrome, and I just wish some people would sue, and WIN, like Larry Wollersheim did! More suits, and tear this fricking cult BS that Hubbard built, down!
@marcotai You have not been locked in a room have you! Too many of us were locked in, and this ain't just sour grapes ex spousal bad feelings. Naw Marco, when you deny what people lived, you give them a "wrong indication" and that gets you the rabid upset like LRH says an "out-list" will produce. That's why the L4BR List Correction is done on people who need it. That's why C/S 53 repair list, and the Green Form repair list have "out list" and "wrong indication" on it. Dig!
@marcotai Marco, Used to be, if you were watching, through the years, that ARC Break teams would go do C/S 53 assessments, and clean up all the "wrong indications" and even injustices act like a wrong indication, and cause rabid hostile anti Scientology backlash. LRH did order his repair list tech be used as the key tool of the ARC Break teams, and for repair of the disaffected. You don't have access to all those repair efforts, but you HAVE to give people correct indications. Start!
@draginjim Hugh Urban's book, I guess he considered it a losing unpopular battle, but American psychologist/philosopher Williams James, long dead, his "The Varieties of Religious Experience" and Harriet Whitehead's "Renunciation and Reformulation" those 2 books lay out the defense of Scienotlogy as a religion, were Scientology to just rise up intellectually. Scientology doesn't attrack smart enough members, and they rely on legalistic tactics defense. It's a cult religion.
@JoshWhitt101 Cruise and celebrities like him are love bombed and never treated badly so they believe. So, I would boycott his movies to help send a message, but I wouldn't hate him, because he may change and fight back.
@marcotai Hubbard was NOT the great person that Hubbard vainly wished to be considered. Hubbard was a moderately successful sci-fi pulp fiction writer. I've read most of his pulp stories, tech vols, green vols, Sea Org writings, private writings, final years traffic, in my 27 years in the Sea Org. My conclusion, the harshest critics are right. "The Varieties of Religious Experience." read it, and you'll find Hubbard does merit typical religion sect founder status. Upgrade you defense!
@Nikolaii2571 Just google it you can get it on Amazon, it was published WAY earlier, in 1905ish, James is long dead, but he laid out the context widely for the psychological basis for religion, etc, he was a famous American psychologist/philosopher. For context, showing Hubbard fits the mentally oddball "religion founder" model quite traditionally, is all. "Varieties of Religious Experiece" also free audio at Libravox, so you can listen to it, chapter by chapter.
@JoshWhitt101 I did/wasted 27 years in the Scientology faux '"religious order", I know the Hubbard writings, I read way more than most members of all he wrote. Tom Cruise is a movie star first and foremost, I can grant him that, and his MI 4 is better than the first 3 in my opinion. Tom Cruise is kind of a "What you see is what you get" action movie star, not an intellectual giant by a long shot! Not a Shakespeare actor by any measure. I like his recent sober demeanor.
I have no sympathy for anyone manipulated, murdered, raped or otherwise on that ship.
Including the various suicides that have has surrounded Scientology since its beginning.
The victims are again and again claiming that Scientology are clever mind-controllers, but it is in fact the said victims that are gullible and stupid.
Own up to your consciousness, you fucking morons. You knew exactly what you were getting into and you deserved every second of it.
@UncleFourFinger Your parents or your childhood must of been messed up. You are sick man. You seem to be very troubled. The fact that you thought someone who was raped for 6yrs deserved it is very upsetting. You are a very sad man. Then again, only the unloved hate.
@UncleFourFinger Part of these mystical/religion scams is they promise the world, give people some hope, give them some "case" attention, they get the placebo normal growing up successes ANY therapy or practice sometimes gives, enough to keep a bunch on board, and yes, those caught in the mess, sure, it's their faults.
What else is new in human history? Scientology's the latest sci fi UFO "Xenu caused the Wall of Fire" high volume dead space alien exorcism cult religion.
@HelmetBlissta As one of those "idiots", you are surely telling the truth! I wasted 27 years of my life in this fricking cult. If you have any friends in it, be sure to tell them the Xenu story as quick as you can, and tell 'em "Xenu caused the Wall of Fire", those are magic words, believe me, that they can't wash out of their heads, once you tell em!
@chuckbeattyo thans for your response, I do not know the "Xenu" story but I will be sure to remember the 'Xenu caused the wall of fire' comment. i feel like going round Scientology videos and writing it there now.
@HelmetBlissta Believe me, that exact phrase is "cutting edge". Members are allowed to know part of the Wall of Fire supposed major trauma galactic incident. But they don't generally know that Xenu caused the Wall of Fire. That exact phrase puts two and two together, and the newbie Scientologists actually will secretly thankyou. Be sure to say the phrase "authoritatively". Proof, is on YouTube, the video that contains Hubbard telling the Xenu story.
I am watching a recap and to tell you the truth, nothing surprises me. The Church of Scientology is nothing more than a cult that needs to be eliminated ASAP...especially in Victoria (AU). We don't need any American cult here in Australia, next to The Brethren.
@UmmahYehudiTzion Religions are allowed their "wacky" beliefs. We're mostly Americans here. American psychologist's "The Varieties of Religious Experience" have timeless principles of tolerance he said in the early 1900s, which still apply. I'm tolerant of Scienotlogy's beliefs, I ridicule those beliefs, but they have their religious rights, and James would give them the "religion" stamp of approval. He's also agree they are a "cult" and abusive, at this stage in history
Good on ya ozzies! Bit by bit the truth unfolds, this does not bode well for CoS and it's minions, a whole lot of crazy going on and the demented house of cards Hubbard built is destined to fall, and fall hard.
Fantastic expose'...thank you for speaking out. I know how scary that can be, having been "In" for 30 years, and escaped out in July, 2000. Having been chased across the country---it's exactly as you say: I had NOOOOOOOO idea all these creepy things were going on. Once I found out, I left, forever. Final word to anyone "in": Read, LOOK, listen...learn ALL the facts and YOU connect the dots. And ask yourself this: Why can't members of C of $ say that? They cannot.Love to all :) Tory/Magoo
satan loves cults and will make scientology his bitch!!! play time is over
dungeonmaster600 1 week ago
According to their own brainless doctrines, they should not require money at all. But then, why else found a fraudulant and criminal organization? Why else cling to this pathetic earthly existance if they think they can continue a better Thetan existance elsewhere? Because they believe it? NO, they KNOW there is nothing beyond this. Death is final.
Tianoevanova 2 weeks ago
ALL 8 OT LEVELS AVAILABLE ON U TORRENT FOR FREE !!! YOUR RETARD SECRETS ARE OUT ... YOU STUPID BRAINWASHED FUCKS ... SO SUE ME ... lmao
anoni81b4u 3 weeks ago
I HAVE BEN MANY TIMES ON THE FREEWINDS AND I CAN SAY THAT IS ONE OF THE BETTER PLACES ON EARTH.
I HAVE DONE MANY COURSES ..IS A FANTASTIC SHIP IN THE MIDDEL OF CARIBIAN ILANDS ,THE FOOD WAS FANTASTIC IN AN OT ENVIRONMENT ...BARBADOS..S.LUCIA AND MANY OTHER PLACES I KEEP IN MY MIND LIKE THE MOST BEAUTIFUL EXPERIENCES IN MY ENTIRE LIFE.
REALLY I CANNOT UNDERSTAND THIS ORRIBLES CRITICS. NOBODY SHOULD BELIEVE THIS SUPPRESSIVS WHO ONLY TRY TO STOP MAN TO REACH FREEDOM AND HAPPINESS WHIT SCIENTOLOGY
lupone20001 1 month ago
@lupone20001 "Suppressives"? Yes, "SP' is the label the cult generously applies to anyone exposing its filth. Are you awere of the Hubbard policy of Fair Game, instructiong to lie to, steal from, and "destroy" such people? Your cult instructs to DESTROY anyone disagreeing with them.
And you call that "FREEDOM AND HAPPINESS"?
... you poor fool.
GuyFoxxx 4 weeks ago in playlist More videos from ZhentSydney
@GuyFoxxx horrible DRAIN YOU ARE !
lupone20001 3 weeks ago
@lupone20001 So how much money have you already flushed that DRAIN of yours? How many thousands of dollars worth of yelling at ashtrays and touching walls? If the tech really worked, your OTs could just postulate all critics gone. They could postulate Ideal Orgs finished. Yet your publics are being regged for more money to the point of flipping out and blowing. Your stats crash, DM is having a hard time covering it up with MADE UP numbers in speeches and magazines Wake up, puppet.
GuyFoxxx 3 weeks ago
Keep up the good work exposing this brainwashed freaks. :)
dijhili 1 month ago 2
2:51 What are Tom Cruise and the black lady singing?
bubbyeater 1 month ago
@bubbyeater What, 'Old Time Rock n' Roll'?
arayalrio 1 week ago
Excellent raw material proving "cult" mindset, first couple minutes, of this video. Realizing that the members don't even realize they are perpetrating "cult" mentality on their fellows, that totally is the scene, however psychologists and cult experts lay this out. And Mike Rinder as ex PR man, explains how the PR people for Scientology lie, like the Aussie PR lady lies!
chuckbeattyo 1 month ago 5
it's a shame that there are some "journalists" believe everything they hear , only at trying to make a scoop. LOL
marcotai 1 month ago
@marcotai have you read russel miller's "bare-faced messiah"?
longbluefingers 1 month ago
@marcotai Too many firsthand accounts, all these ex members can't be lying, and it is NOT just abused wife syndrome. It's group member abuse cult mindset syndrome, and I just wish some people would sue, and WIN, like Larry Wollersheim did! More suits, and tear this fricking cult BS that Hubbard built, down!
chuckbeattyo 1 month ago 3
The Freewinds a prison?
LOLLOL.
it's obvious who claims that, it's a psychopath or someone with an axe to grind.
marcotai 1 month ago
@marcotai You have not been locked in a room have you! Too many of us were locked in, and this ain't just sour grapes ex spousal bad feelings. Naw Marco, when you deny what people lived, you give them a "wrong indication" and that gets you the rabid upset like LRH says an "out-list" will produce. That's why the L4BR List Correction is done on people who need it. That's why C/S 53 repair list, and the Green Form repair list have "out list" and "wrong indication" on it. Dig!
chuckbeattyo 1 month ago 2
@marcotai Marco, Used to be, if you were watching, through the years, that ARC Break teams would go do C/S 53 assessments, and clean up all the "wrong indications" and even injustices act like a wrong indication, and cause rabid hostile anti Scientology backlash. LRH did order his repair list tech be used as the key tool of the ARC Break teams, and for repair of the disaffected. You don't have access to all those repair efforts, but you HAVE to give people correct indications. Start!
chuckbeattyo 1 month ago 2
@marcotai Have you sailed aboard the Freewinds?
arayalrio 1 week ago
I wish they would stop calling it a church we all know better.
draginjim 1 month ago in playlist Cults ~sect ~secret/sacred Orders ~
@draginjim Hugh Urban's book, I guess he considered it a losing unpopular battle, but American psychologist/philosopher Williams James, long dead, his "The Varieties of Religious Experience" and Harriet Whitehead's "Renunciation and Reformulation" those 2 books lay out the defense of Scienotlogy as a religion, were Scientology to just rise up intellectually. Scientology doesn't attrack smart enough members, and they rely on legalistic tactics defense. It's a cult religion.
chuckbeattyo 1 month ago
I think I can now say I hate tom cruise
JoshWhitt101 1 month ago
@JoshWhitt101 Cruise and celebrities like him are love bombed and never treated badly so they believe. So, I would boycott his movies to help send a message, but I wouldn't hate him, because he may change and fight back.
truvelocity 1 month ago
@JoshWhitt101 that's what the spread of bullshit in order to make people hate something or someone, is all about.!
I'm sorry for you that you fall for it.
marcotai 1 month ago
@marcotai Hubbard was NOT the great person that Hubbard vainly wished to be considered. Hubbard was a moderately successful sci-fi pulp fiction writer. I've read most of his pulp stories, tech vols, green vols, Sea Org writings, private writings, final years traffic, in my 27 years in the Sea Org. My conclusion, the harshest critics are right. "The Varieties of Religious Experience." read it, and you'll find Hubbard does merit typical religion sect founder status. Upgrade you defense!
chuckbeattyo 1 month ago 4
@chuckbeattyo Was the book you mentioned: '"THE VARIETIES OF RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCE" published in 1976?
Nikolaii2571 1 week ago
@Nikolaii2571 Just google it you can get it on Amazon, it was published WAY earlier, in 1905ish, James is long dead, but he laid out the context widely for the psychological basis for religion, etc, he was a famous American psychologist/philosopher. For context, showing Hubbard fits the mentally oddball "religion founder" model quite traditionally, is all. "Varieties of Religious Experiece" also free audio at Libravox, so you can listen to it, chapter by chapter.
chuckbeattyo 1 week ago
@JoshWhitt101 I did/wasted 27 years in the Scientology faux '"religious order", I know the Hubbard writings, I read way more than most members of all he wrote. Tom Cruise is a movie star first and foremost, I can grant him that, and his MI 4 is better than the first 3 in my opinion. Tom Cruise is kind of a "What you see is what you get" action movie star, not an intellectual giant by a long shot! Not a Shakespeare actor by any measure. I like his recent sober demeanor.
chuckbeattyo 1 month ago 2
@chuckbeattyo Thank you for not saying that Tom Cruise is a "brilliant" or an "amazing" actor. He's just Mr. Intense Action Hero.
arayalrio 1 week ago
I have no sympathy for anyone manipulated, murdered, raped or otherwise on that ship.
Including the various suicides that have has surrounded Scientology since its beginning.
The victims are again and again claiming that Scientology are clever mind-controllers, but it is in fact the said victims that are gullible and stupid.
Own up to your consciousness, you fucking morons. You knew exactly what you were getting into and you deserved every second of it.
UncleFourFinger 1 month ago
@UncleFourFinger Your parents or your childhood must of been messed up. You are sick man. You seem to be very troubled. The fact that you thought someone who was raped for 6yrs deserved it is very upsetting. You are a very sad man. Then again, only the unloved hate.
JoshWhitt101 1 month ago
@UncleFourFinger Part of these mystical/religion scams is they promise the world, give people some hope, give them some "case" attention, they get the placebo normal growing up successes ANY therapy or practice sometimes gives, enough to keep a bunch on board, and yes, those caught in the mess, sure, it's their faults.
What else is new in human history? Scientology's the latest sci fi UFO "Xenu caused the Wall of Fire" high volume dead space alien exorcism cult religion.
chuckbeattyo 1 month ago
What a bunch of fucking idiots
HelmetBlissta 1 month ago
@HelmetBlissta As one of those "idiots", you are surely telling the truth! I wasted 27 years of my life in this fricking cult. If you have any friends in it, be sure to tell them the Xenu story as quick as you can, and tell 'em "Xenu caused the Wall of Fire", those are magic words, believe me, that they can't wash out of their heads, once you tell em!
chuckbeattyo 1 month ago 2
@chuckbeattyo thans for your response, I do not know the "Xenu" story but I will be sure to remember the 'Xenu caused the wall of fire' comment. i feel like going round Scientology videos and writing it there now.
HelmetBlissta 1 month ago 2
@HelmetBlissta Believe me, that exact phrase is "cutting edge". Members are allowed to know part of the Wall of Fire supposed major trauma galactic incident. But they don't generally know that Xenu caused the Wall of Fire. That exact phrase puts two and two together, and the newbie Scientologists actually will secretly thankyou. Be sure to say the phrase "authoritatively". Proof, is on YouTube, the video that contains Hubbard telling the Xenu story.
chuckbeattyo 1 month ago
@HelmetBlissta And a variation of what to say, is "YouTube contains the Hubbard lecture where he explains Xenu caused the Wall of Fire incident!"
Or "Have you heard the YouTube video where Hubbard explains how Xenu caused the Wall of Fire?"
chuckbeattyo 1 month ago
@chuckbeattyo Thanks bro, i will remember that.
HelmetBlissta 1 month ago
It's nothing but a rape-ship.
OrthodoxDarwinist 1 month ago in playlist in the news
I am watching a recap and to tell you the truth, nothing surprises me. The Church of Scientology is nothing more than a cult that needs to be eliminated ASAP...especially in Victoria (AU). We don't need any American cult here in Australia, next to The Brethren.
RJNiemski 1 month ago
And of course Virginia Stewart pops up with here usiual crap, "everyone is lying but the cult". I wonder how long until she blows?
SlappyThePenguin 1 month ago
Scientology MUST be destroyed.
UmmahYehudiTzion 1 month ago
@UmmahYehudiTzion Religions are allowed their "wacky" beliefs. We're mostly Americans here. American psychologist's "The Varieties of Religious Experience" have timeless principles of tolerance he said in the early 1900s, which still apply. I'm tolerant of Scienotlogy's beliefs, I ridicule those beliefs, but they have their religious rights, and James would give them the "religion" stamp of approval. He's also agree they are a "cult" and abusive, at this stage in history
chuckbeattyo 1 month ago
Absolutely horrible what goes on there. My heart goes out to those brave souls, and to the rest being held on that ship.
b1p0l4rt 1 month ago
This is literally a ship of fools.
BannedUfos 1 month ago
@BannedUfos Nice. If only I could mind meld to your mind ALL of Hubbard's voluminous writings and lectures, how true your words!
chuckbeattyo 1 month ago
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BannedUfos 1 month ago
That was surprisingly hard hitting for ACA.
outtech 1 month ago
nice one LOL .
bodgerd 1 month ago
Good on ya ozzies! Bit by bit the truth unfolds, this does not bode well for CoS and it's minions, a whole lot of crazy going on and the demented house of cards Hubbard built is destined to fall, and fall hard.
Ogsonofgroo 1 month ago
Fantastic expose'...thank you for speaking out. I know how scary that can be, having been "In" for 30 years, and escaped out in July, 2000. Having been chased across the country---it's exactly as you say: I had NOOOOOOOO idea all these creepy things were going on. Once I found out, I left, forever. Final word to anyone "in": Read, LOOK, listen...learn ALL the facts and YOU connect the dots. And ask yourself this: Why can't members of C of $ say that? They cannot.Love to all :) Tory/Magoo
ToryMagoo44 1 month ago