Thank you for all the responses. You know, looking back at this kata in this video... I just recently learned it prior to the tournament. I see where there can be a lot of improvement, one being a little more fluent, and not so "robotic".
I enjoy this kata. It has nice movement, solid stances and the option for a lot of customization.
Also ignore the people who are telling you to leave your club, etc etc. This isn't "the worst version of seiunchin" they have ever seen, and if it won first place it definitely deserved it.
That's a good performance. It's not that the kata has been shown incorrectly, it's just the way it had been taught. Techniques in the kata can be different from teacher to teacher, from school to school.
This verson is labored and awkward....actually all versions of this kata are awkward but this one is more so....Clumsy kata in general.....Oh, I first leaned a version of this in 1965.....
Yaah, for shurite katas yes much is lost, but since Goju-ryu was only founded this century and the founder's direct disciples are still around, it isn't that alien to us, that is, those who were lucky to begin in the right school. This version of the kata here isn't from the right school.
That being said, analyze the kata for what it can offer. Even if you dont like it, that doesn't mean it can't offer you something you don't know yet.
p.s. karate hasn't been around for 'thousands of years' , so its impossible to ruin 'thousands of years of tradition'. Goju is barely 100 years old. Shotokan same thing. And they borrowed what I'm sure are 'bastardized' versions from other, older martial arts. So stop nit-picking. Aaron, excellent focus & intensity.
I read this with interest. There are probably many hidden movements taught in 'original' katas that have been lost over the years through adaptations. Its true, this form of Goju being shown is what some would call 'bastardized'. But why act pretentious as if WE (all of us), who have lived long after our originators, could presume that each of OUR forms is the closest imitation of what was first taught. It is good to be aware that all forms have changed, in different or more ways than others.
Having trained in both Okinawa Goju Ryu and Goju Kai for more than 43 years and still teaching, I can only offer a word of advise.
I know you are probably training very hard, and probably even been told you are training on a "traditional" Goju Ryu school...but you are not! The degradation of this beautiful Kata is offensive and ugly, and you will have problems with your knees one day. Lookout and do a better search for a teacher.
Let me tell you. I'm a tae kwon do practitioner, and I know that, most probably, my words aren't important to you, but.. I am very very impressed with your kata. I got goose bums from it. You flow in your kata so beautifully, it's almost like watching a dance. Well done!!!
The first martial art I ever trained in was Tae Kwon Do. I loved it. I do plan on getting back in it... it sure did make my sparring much easier in Karate.
I'm earning to take karate myself. Just moved to Miami... God, everything is expensive here!! In Puerto Rico, TKD was only $25 a month, here it's 230 registration and 100 a month.. EX CUUUSE MEEE!! lol Anyways, I really admire the way you take critizism (if that's the correct way to write it), but people like hating on others alot. Don't pay too much attention to it unless its constructive critizism. No one here is perfect enough to be insulting or degrading you. >:P*
Obviously your ability and dedication is there, as can be seen in the strong stances. Flow or fluidity though is missing, and of course this kata is completely not seiyunchin of Goju-ryu shitoryu or kyokushin-kai, but that is not your fault.
i never saw that kata performed like that! but i had to admit, it has hard work and didication. i don´t like the trasitions, but the lower positions were very nice.
You know, after all the reviews and comments... it is very clear what is needed to improve on this kata. You can bet that I will take all positive and negative comments and work with them, to improve. Hopefully I will have it recorded to show the improvements.
Gotta give huge props to Aaron to take all the comments and still act like a perfect gentelman.. good show Aaron, this is the sign of a humble and good karate ka.
Wow, what a waste of talent...a good big guy like that training hard, all that dedication. Its obvious, and yet taught the wrong stuff. I am not doubting its some kind of kata from some school, nor questioning it's effectiveness, but it's simply not Okinawan Goju-ryu, and that's a far-cry from Seiyunchin.
They dont Claim to be okinawan goju ryu, ther all canadian goju ryu, i trained at this dojo for years before converting my school to okinawan goju. they train hard. they enjoy it . nough said
Well, I did a bit of research and found out that there actually is a goju kata performed by Don Werrener here in youtube. "donrw" posted a video called "Sei Pai kata", which is part of a DVD series. Movieaholic footwork in seyunchin is similar to Warrener's in Seipai. If you look carefully both performances, specially movement in low stances, you will notice too.
I also check a video posted by "NewEnglandBudo" of Morio Higaonna sensei called "Morio Higaonna Kata Video Part 1". You can see Seyunchin at 3:22 and seipai at 8:08. Warrener seipai has changed the directions of the movement. Try drawing a schema of the direction of the movements and you will see it. Since all goju and shito ryu kaiha, and also Funakoshi's Shotokan use the same pattern in seipai as Higaonna i n the video, then we conclude that Warrener changed it. Why?
your absolutely correct , the lay out of warreners katas dont match the main stream naha styles, as to why he changed it, maybe he learnt it that way from sensei kim , urban or even dalgeleish sensei, dunno. i just dont think aaron should be bashed for doing what he was taught to do.
You are right. However, I think that most people are not bashing Aaron, but they are trying to give him some advice related to the system he is training in. It's just that not everybody has diplomat skills :-)
pehaps, i know how you think, your a purest, as am i , i want the most pure system form my school. but i also dont see harm in people doing what Sensei warrener does. he has put out some wicked blackbelts.ive seen them and trained with them , and they truly are second to none. its not my path but i cant ake away from what he has done.
wow, umm...that division looked pretty huge for a local tournament and is that adult brown or black belt division? one thing I wanna say is damn, the other competitors must've been horribly bad to lose to this performance. I actually trained in a former Don Warrener franchise school and got a shodan in the style but then learned what we were doing was mostly crap. But even so, Seienchin wasn't never done this way in the Warrener style.
Yeah, that hop in the end and the diving with your nose in the ground ... priceless. Movieaholic, when so many people are posting the same kind of replies, you must be starting to doubt you're school just a little bit. No?
Again, you seem like a talented guy. Don't waste it.
not bad kata except that there was unessasry pauses in it. i understand u take it slow for the audience, but such pauses decrease the total power u can make
why are all the stances so low... it makes you immobile and unable to move. and a t 2.16 you dont have your knee bent at all. it takes 7 pounds of pressure to break a knee from the front when it is not bent, just letting you know so your martial arts days are not over cause of an accident
It is what it is. Looks to me like the kid works hard at doing his kata like he was taught... Now, can he apply it? Does he understand the roots and implications within the form? No way to tell, but I think he shuould keep at it and discuss all of these comments with his teacher... Finally, Higaonna Sensei (like any Goju Sensei) does not teach "THE" Goju Ryu...he teaches "A" form of Goju Ryu. Many paths...One Mountain
Have you asked yourself how comes that Warrener kata are so different than Japanese Gojukai kata despite him learning the Yamaguchi Gogen's way, back in the sixties?
New England Budo, Now thats a school Aaron you want to see goju at its best, look at chinen teriou or moriga higgianona {Spelling} now those are true living legends and masters of our day
Don't blame the student----Blame the teacher. He has obviously formed a bond with his Sensei, and at the beginning did not know that the guy was not the best qualified teacher.
I have to agree, that this is one of the worst examples of Seyunchin I've ever seen. Unfortunately, cultural relativism has infiltrated karate. There are some absolutes in this world and kata is one of them. Changing a kata is like taking a crayon to the Mona Lisa or changing the dialog of a Shakespeare play.
I have to agree with bushido914 and nijukien, run away from this school as fast as you can and take as many of your friends as you can with you.
I don't think he will do that. He has already developed personal bonds within his organization. I've seen it before and I have tried to rescue young students from weird goju schools and they didn't want me to do that. They thought I was being disrespectful.
my friend, you are a good karateKa , find a real Okinawan goju ryu dojo or at least a goju kai school, this is not even close to Miyagi sensei goju ryu. just think about the way you moving from one shiko dachi to another, are you comfortable doing it?
Aaron ther is a meibukan dojo in brantford, the sensei is a 6th dan black belt, if you want to see real goju , go train with him, you will be taught proper karate, and you will be taught what version of kata you are doing, and his school is not based on making money, just a suggestion
My personal opinion is as such, one should not have the ego to think they have the right to change a kata just because it may win at a tournament, by changing a kata for your own self satisfaction you are decimating thousands of year of tradition, and on top of this you are nullifying any bunkai or direction that the previous masters are instilling or trying to keep pure.
You are too kind or you do not have a good martial arts education. This version of the kata breaks the fluidity of all movements, it disregard all body mechanics. You should have a problem with Warrener's kata.
Its not his fault , he comes from the Don warenners karate club, they run ther schools with a mafia type attitude, as far as he knows this is the way the kata is done all over the world, little does he know his sensei DAVE, wont admit that this is very wrong compared to any karate done out of the few schools in ontario,,, look outside the box Aaron research things call DAVE out , its for the good of students under you. dont fold under the cheese. what they are teaching is 90 percent bullshit.
Instead of posting another kata, why don't you post another performance of seyunchin, so we can see the real seyunchin you guys do and not the first time learner's version that you are showing now?
There are lots of different ways to do a particular kata. And it's usually rather narrow minded to criticise versions that are different from yours. This version of seyunchin, however, is very bad. To say the least. Too many wannabe senseis in the States who think they're the new myagi and make up their own versions. Too bad that someone like Movieaholic who seems a reasonable talented guy is misled and wasts his time on stuff like this.
I am also unfamiliar with this version. However, kata are designed so that the applications of the individual techniques are not obvious to casual viewers, only to those who seriously study said kata, and furthermore are open to interpretation and exploration.
At least he had the good will to post a video of his kata online for the benefit of the martial arts community--so that the rest of us could see what is out there.
I'll accept that... because I would agree its a little robotic. When I did this kata in that vid, I had just learned it... and as you should know, its about practice practice practice.
This had to be the most retarded version of the kata I have ever seen...that leap at the end? What the hell...I'm ashamed any goju school is teaching it that way.
Well I'm assuming you are a fellow martial artist... and for you to be like that tells me a lot of how you are taught. I train under a club started by Don Warrener. Martial Arts is about being open minded, and I'm sure if I were to watch a kata of yours, I could give you "constructive" criticism.
Where do you train and what level have you achieved?
So is it you doing the kata? I know it's a goju kata, but Shito Ryu do Seiyunchin too and it's not a familiar way of doing seiyunchin that you performed (although it looks strong and technically good). I've trained with many people over time and been to Okinawa and Japan. Just curious of the lineage?
I was tried and didnt stretch of practice before the tournament... I was working a trade show a whole week for 12 hour days, then I had to go back to my town to compete, then the next day I was off to Cuba.
The oddest interpretation of seiyunchin i have ever seen
andrewrossburgess 8 months ago
Wtf is this???
KrissSro 1 year ago
Thank you for all the responses. You know, looking back at this kata in this video... I just recently learned it prior to the tournament. I see where there can be a lot of improvement, one being a little more fluent, and not so "robotic".
I enjoy this kata. It has nice movement, solid stances and the option for a lot of customization.
Take care and happy training!
Movieaholic 2 years ago
Seiunchin with a Maewashi Uke at the end ?
Different, but good job none the less.
TheDevilGene 2 years ago
Good job man! I wish I knew a kata I could do that looked that good.
auric18 2 years ago
Also ignore the people who are telling you to leave your club, etc etc. This isn't "the worst version of seiunchin" they have ever seen, and if it won first place it definitely deserved it.
0katieface0 3 years ago
Looks really sharp. I think you might be sacrificing some of your speed and movement for the ultra low stances. But what do I know :-)
0katieface0 3 years ago
What style of Goju is this? I do Chinese Goju-yu so I am just curious....
BlisterOfSerotonin 3 years ago
Seems like Okinawan Goju. Definitely follows the original openings to the kata.
jackbrickman 2 years ago
That's a good performance. It's not that the kata has been shown incorrectly, it's just the way it had been taught. Techniques in the kata can be different from teacher to teacher, from school to school.
SithV1 3 years ago
This verson is labored and awkward....actually all versions of this kata are awkward but this one is more so....Clumsy kata in general.....Oh, I first leaned a version of this in 1965.....
Ronin6575 3 years ago
That is not kata Seiyunchin.
That is not Goju.
New students show me kata they learnt from books and it looks similar to the way you move... I think your teacher is probably one of them.
Find an authentic Goju school, put on a white belt, and forget the Mr. Roboto sensei who taught you this nonsense.
Remember, Goju should revitalise your body... not destroy it!
GalaxyKapow 3 years ago
look i don't know what belt you are but you would do well to try and work on your fluidity. goju is about fluid motions. keep up the training! ouss!!
KingOkami 3 years ago
whoa!!! what happened to seiunchin? that's strange.
mindyluwho 4 years ago
but yah, hitting ur knees off the ground like that won't always help u out in the long run :)
potamun 4 years ago
Yaah, for shurite katas yes much is lost, but since Goju-ryu was only founded this century and the founder's direct disciples are still around, it isn't that alien to us, that is, those who were lucky to begin in the right school. This version of the kata here isn't from the right school.
riesbuck42 4 years ago
My knee actually doesn't hit the ground.
Movieaholic 4 years ago
That being said, analyze the kata for what it can offer. Even if you dont like it, that doesn't mean it can't offer you something you don't know yet.
p.s. karate hasn't been around for 'thousands of years' , so its impossible to ruin 'thousands of years of tradition'. Goju is barely 100 years old. Shotokan same thing. And they borrowed what I'm sure are 'bastardized' versions from other, older martial arts. So stop nit-picking. Aaron, excellent focus & intensity.
potamun 4 years ago
Thanks for your comment. I agree 1) Karate is a modern art; 2) If nothing in martial arts ever changed, karate would not have been invented.
weaseldragon 3 years ago
I read this with interest. There are probably many hidden movements taught in 'original' katas that have been lost over the years through adaptations. Its true, this form of Goju being shown is what some would call 'bastardized'. But why act pretentious as if WE (all of us), who have lived long after our originators, could presume that each of OUR forms is the closest imitation of what was first taught. It is good to be aware that all forms have changed, in different or more ways than others.
potamun 4 years ago
Keep up the bad work.
person8901 4 years ago
To the young grasshopper:
Having trained in both Okinawa Goju Ryu and Goju Kai for more than 43 years and still teaching, I can only offer a word of advise.
I know you are probably training very hard, and probably even been told you are training on a "traditional" Goju Ryu school...but you are not! The degradation of this beautiful Kata is offensive and ugly, and you will have problems with your knees one day. Lookout and do a better search for a teacher.
kaich0 4 years ago
awesome u r just awesome style flow every thing was good 9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999thums up
Kabutan 4 years ago
Let me tell you. I'm a tae kwon do practitioner, and I know that, most probably, my words aren't important to you, but.. I am very very impressed with your kata. I got goose bums from it. You flow in your kata so beautifully, it's almost like watching a dance. Well done!!!
firetigerchic 4 years ago
Thank you for your comments.
The first martial art I ever trained in was Tae Kwon Do. I loved it. I do plan on getting back in it... it sure did make my sparring much easier in Karate.
Movieaholic 4 years ago
I'm earning to take karate myself. Just moved to Miami... God, everything is expensive here!! In Puerto Rico, TKD was only $25 a month, here it's 230 registration and 100 a month.. EX CUUUSE MEEE!! lol Anyways, I really admire the way you take critizism (if that's the correct way to write it), but people like hating on others alot. Don't pay too much attention to it unless its constructive critizism. No one here is perfect enough to be insulting or degrading you. >:P*
firetigerchic 4 years ago
Obviously your ability and dedication is there, as can be seen in the strong stances. Flow or fluidity though is missing, and of course this kata is completely not seiyunchin of Goju-ryu shitoryu or kyokushin-kai, but that is not your fault.
Pecherin72 4 years ago
i never saw that kata performed like that! but i had to admit, it has hard work and didication. i don´t like the trasitions, but the lower positions were very nice.
2sssac 4 years ago
Thanks.
You know, after all the reviews and comments... it is very clear what is needed to improve on this kata. You can bet that I will take all positive and negative comments and work with them, to improve. Hopefully I will have it recorded to show the improvements.
Thanks
Movieaholic 4 years ago
Gotta give huge props to Aaron to take all the comments and still act like a perfect gentelman.. good show Aaron, this is the sign of a humble and good karate ka.
Aaronstiver 4 years ago
ou have no idear mhat you are talking about do you
Gadge00 4 years ago
Fair enough.
riesbuck42 5 years ago
Wow, what a waste of talent...a good big guy like that training hard, all that dedication. Its obvious, and yet taught the wrong stuff. I am not doubting its some kind of kata from some school, nor questioning it's effectiveness, but it's simply not Okinawan Goju-ryu, and that's a far-cry from Seiyunchin.
riesbuck42 5 years ago
They dont Claim to be okinawan goju ryu, ther all canadian goju ryu, i trained at this dojo for years before converting my school to okinawan goju. they train hard. they enjoy it . nough said
Aaronstiver 5 years ago
Well, I did a bit of research and found out that there actually is a goju kata performed by Don Werrener here in youtube. "donrw" posted a video called "Sei Pai kata", which is part of a DVD series. Movieaholic footwork in seyunchin is similar to Warrener's in Seipai. If you look carefully both performances, specially movement in low stances, you will notice too.
malasangre 5 years ago
I also check a video posted by "NewEnglandBudo" of Morio Higaonna sensei called "Morio Higaonna Kata Video Part 1". You can see Seyunchin at 3:22 and seipai at 8:08. Warrener seipai has changed the directions of the movement. Try drawing a schema of the direction of the movements and you will see it. Since all goju and shito ryu kaiha, and also Funakoshi's Shotokan use the same pattern in seipai as Higaonna i n the video, then we conclude that Warrener changed it. Why?
malasangre 5 years ago
Correction: not all of Funakoshi's Shotokan, but Kanazawa's.
malasangre 5 years ago
your absolutely correct , the lay out of warreners katas dont match the main stream naha styles, as to why he changed it, maybe he learnt it that way from sensei kim , urban or even dalgeleish sensei, dunno. i just dont think aaron should be bashed for doing what he was taught to do.
Aaronstiver 5 years ago
You are right. However, I think that most people are not bashing Aaron, but they are trying to give him some advice related to the system he is training in. It's just that not everybody has diplomat skills :-)
malasangre 5 years ago
pehaps, i know how you think, your a purest, as am i , i want the most pure system form my school. but i also dont see harm in people doing what Sensei warrener does. he has put out some wicked blackbelts.ive seen them and trained with them , and they truly are second to none. its not my path but i cant ake away from what he has done.
Aaronstiver 5 years ago
wow, umm...that division looked pretty huge for a local tournament and is that adult brown or black belt division? one thing I wanna say is damn, the other competitors must've been horribly bad to lose to this performance. I actually trained in a former Don Warrener franchise school and got a shodan in the style but then learned what we were doing was mostly crap. But even so, Seienchin wasn't never done this way in the Warrener style.
openmindedproduction 5 years ago
Yeah, that hop in the end and the diving with your nose in the ground ... priceless. Movieaholic, when so many people are posting the same kind of replies, you must be starting to doubt you're school just a little bit. No?
Again, you seem like a talented guy. Don't waste it.
houtmeyers 5 years ago
a different Seionchin, indeed...
Truchovich 5 years ago
not bad kata except that there was unessasry pauses in it. i understand u take it slow for the audience, but such pauses decrease the total power u can make
110christie 5 years ago
why are all the stances so low... it makes you immobile and unable to move. and a t 2.16 you dont have your knee bent at all. it takes 7 pounds of pressure to break a knee from the front when it is not bent, just letting you know so your martial arts days are not over cause of an accident
ogreatone 5 years ago
Ah yes... I'm surprised I did that.
Thanks...
and thanks to everyone for all their comments. They are very insightful.
Movieaholic 5 years ago
God bless you my friend :)
kyobukan 5 years ago
It is what it is. Looks to me like the kid works hard at doing his kata like he was taught... Now, can he apply it? Does he understand the roots and implications within the form? No way to tell, but I think he shuould keep at it and discuss all of these comments with his teacher... Finally, Higaonna Sensei (like any Goju Sensei) does not teach "THE" Goju Ryu...he teaches "A" form of Goju Ryu. Many paths...One Mountain
NMCK69 5 years ago
looks like some people are more interested in politics, rather than the art of karate, everyone thinks their way is the best way. kudos
tropheus88 5 years ago
This is not traditional Goju-Ryu Karate. Similar, but very different. Master Higaonna does not teach seiyunchin this way.
Mochumbo 5 years ago
man you guys talk shit. Nice kata, thanks for sharing.
ryanddd3 5 years ago
Have you asked yourself how comes that Warrener kata are so different than Japanese Gojukai kata despite him learning the Yamaguchi Gogen's way, back in the sixties?
malasangre 5 years ago
Aaron, they don't believe in sparring at that other club, i don't think you would like it!
tropheus88 5 years ago
Nope guess again
bushido914 5 years ago
I dont even know this Dave, I doubt you will ever guess who i am, Im old School
bushido914 5 years ago
Grant? When was the last time you trained at the club?
Movieaholic 5 years ago
New England Budo, Now thats a school Aaron you want to see goju at its best, look at chinen teriou or moriga higgianona {Spelling} now those are true living legends and masters of our day
bushido914 5 years ago
If I were to guess at a name, it would be Dave?
It is the only name that I can think of, and if it is you, when are we going to finally get to compete againts eachother in kumate?
Movieaholic 5 years ago
Spelling: Higaonna Morio and Chinen Teruo
malasangre 5 years ago
Don't blame the student----Blame the teacher. He has obviously formed a bond with his Sensei, and at the beginning did not know that the guy was not the best qualified teacher.
NewEnglandBudo 5 years ago
I have to agree, that this is one of the worst examples of Seyunchin I've ever seen. Unfortunately, cultural relativism has infiltrated karate. There are some absolutes in this world and kata is one of them. Changing a kata is like taking a crayon to the Mona Lisa or changing the dialog of a Shakespeare play.
I have to agree with bushido914 and nijukien, run away from this school as fast as you can and take as many of your friends as you can with you.
karateRick 5 years ago
I don't think he will do that. He has already developed personal bonds within his organization. I've seen it before and I have tried to rescue young students from weird goju schools and they didn't want me to do that. They thought I was being disrespectful.
malasangre 5 years ago
my friend, you are a good karateKa , find a real Okinawan goju ryu dojo or at least a goju kai school, this is not even close to Miyagi sensei goju ryu. just think about the way you moving from one shiko dachi to another, are you comfortable doing it?
nijuken 5 years ago
Aaron ther is a meibukan dojo in brantford, the sensei is a 6th dan black belt, if you want to see real goju , go train with him, you will be taught proper karate, and you will be taught what version of kata you are doing, and his school is not based on making money, just a suggestion
bushido914 5 years ago
The variations in this kata are very interesting. I have no problem with them. Somebody must have thought they were a good idea.
weaseldragon 5 years ago
My personal opinion is as such, one should not have the ego to think they have the right to change a kata just because it may win at a tournament, by changing a kata for your own self satisfaction you are decimating thousands of year of tradition, and on top of this you are nullifying any bunkai or direction that the previous masters are instilling or trying to keep pure.
bushido914 5 years ago
You are too kind or you do not have a good martial arts education. This version of the kata breaks the fluidity of all movements, it disregard all body mechanics. You should have a problem with Warrener's kata.
malasangre 5 years ago
I dont mind criticism, because I know what to take from it.
Moenstah: There is a branch of Goju Ryu in the area where I am from... southern ontario Canada.
Anyways, I do enjoy all the comments. Perhaps I will get anoter kata recorded and see how that flys.
Movieaholic 5 years ago
Its not his fault , he comes from the Don warenners karate club, they run ther schools with a mafia type attitude, as far as he knows this is the way the kata is done all over the world, little does he know his sensei DAVE, wont admit that this is very wrong compared to any karate done out of the few schools in ontario,,, look outside the box Aaron research things call DAVE out , its for the good of students under you. dont fold under the cheese. what they are teaching is 90 percent bullshit.
bushido914 5 years ago
Judging by your comments, you have trained at the same club... how long ago? What is your name?
Movieaholic 5 years ago
my name and were i have trained is really irellivant, just keep an open mind Aaron, you do have skill, look outwards and dont blindly follow.
bushido914 5 years ago
Instead of posting another kata, why don't you post another performance of seyunchin, so we can see the real seyunchin you guys do and not the first time learner's version that you are showing now?
malasangre 5 years ago
There are lots of different ways to do a particular kata. And it's usually rather narrow minded to criticise versions that are different from yours. This version of seyunchin, however, is very bad. To say the least. Too many wannabe senseis in the States who think they're the new myagi and make up their own versions. Too bad that someone like Movieaholic who seems a reasonable talented guy is misled and wasts his time on stuff like this.
halfoat 5 years ago
do you belong to a branch of goju kai? Just being curious.
Moenstah 5 years ago
I am also unfamiliar with this version. However, kata are designed so that the applications of the individual techniques are not obvious to casual viewers, only to those who seriously study said kata, and furthermore are open to interpretation and exploration.
At least he had the good will to post a video of his kata online for the benefit of the martial arts community--so that the rest of us could see what is out there.
SidHat 5 years ago
Goju Karate? Don't make me laugh... hahaa~ This is not pure Goju at least. More better to call "Robot-Ryu".
hachigomakuni 5 years ago
I'll accept that... because I would agree its a little robotic. When I did this kata in that vid, I had just learned it... and as you should know, its about practice practice practice.
Movieaholic 5 years ago
my white belt kata is better than that crap
hawkeyes12345 5 years ago
lol, and by your comment it would be fair to assume that you still ARE a white belt.
Movieaholic 5 years ago
This had to be the most retarded version of the kata I have ever seen...that leap at the end? What the hell...I'm ashamed any goju school is teaching it that way.
C0pernicus 5 years ago
Well I'm assuming you are a fellow martial artist... and for you to be like that tells me a lot of how you are taught. I train under a club started by Don Warrener. Martial Arts is about being open minded, and I'm sure if I were to watch a kata of yours, I could give you "constructive" criticism.
Where do you train and what level have you achieved?
Movieaholic 5 years ago
Yeap, I am curious about the lineage too. This is the first time I see this seyunchin version.
malasangre 5 years ago
So is it you doing the kata? I know it's a goju kata, but Shito Ryu do Seiyunchin too and it's not a familiar way of doing seiyunchin that you performed (although it looks strong and technically good). I've trained with many people over time and been to Okinawa and Japan. Just curious of the lineage?
Colemandina 5 years ago
Which form of the kata is this? Shito Ryu?
Colemandina 5 years ago
Goju-Ryu.
I was tried and didnt stretch of practice before the tournament... I was working a trade show a whole week for 12 hour days, then I had to go back to my town to compete, then the next day I was off to Cuba.
Fun times.
Movieaholic 5 years ago