Jeff Killed John (now BFMV) - Nation To Nation

[translative245]

if the vocals had abit more better quality then the song would rule!!!

[DanMetalHead1]

@translative245 the crappy sound quality of this song makes it sound hardcore

[ScarsOfTheCrucifix]

i cant find this album anywhere :(

[ScarsOfTheCrucifix]

A nu-metal bullet for my valentine.....fucking awesome!

[TheSamuzas]

this song fucking rocks

[insanity666ful]

this song is the predecesor of turn to despai ;)

[HellRevised]

@Lentax it is



[heavenmetal1]

BEAST!!!!!!!!

[Nuten10]

It's Shame Like This Old Song Record In This Bad Quality , Thumbs up if you Want B4MV To RecoRd This Songs AGAIN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ThePikpikcarrot]

no since in arguing over this song, its simply a demo of the song 'turn to despair' by bullet for my valentine. search the name of the song and listen to the clear simalarities.

[ThePikpikcarrot]

opening almost rivals 'if being fake was an olympic sport's opening

[Andyboy10066]

Who are the two retards who thumbed this video down? Probably special ed people. Idiots.

[jdjones1995]

@Andyboy10066 dude ur just a douche if u make fun of special ed

[Andyboy10066]

@jdjones1995 Im not. I was joking. Dude, you sound extremely defensive. Cool it.

[jdjones1995]

@Andyboy10066 srry my cousin is special ed

[ItachiUtchiha]

this is Turn to Despair :D 

[banulu]

Bullet should remake this ! <3³

[lozzthegod]

turn to despair was relased on cd with hand of blood n i think no control was with it to

[lozzthegod]

turn to despair was released on cd with hand of blood i think. as i have it on cd

[riotrebelling]

pretty much my fave song form JKJ woo!

[Tabish1995]

they re-made this song

now its a demo and called "turn to despair"

epic song

[chrisyoungprince]

isnt this like hand of blood now or something

[XpEAnUTBuTtERsUckSX]

@chrisyoungprince nah its turn to despair, which was never released either.

[Cotesworth1337]

there needs to be a revolution

maybe then there'll be less tension

[R110forever]

It seems like "Turn to despair" isn't it ? ^^

[riotrebelling]

@R110forever yeah they remade this song to Turn To Despair :)

[Lumiinesc]

Damn bfmv didint have to COMPLETELY change there music style it could of been a little nu metal & metalcore i love how this sounds

[opiatesystem]

jeff killed john are SOOO much better than bullet for my valentine!!!

i love the poison but the next two albums are repitive boring stuff. this was EPIC! plus, beji tearing up is awseome too!

[MrParasite1]

any clues where i can get a mp3 out of this?

[musicbeef]

this was matt tuck right?

[Kage537]

damnnn i wan't this cd baddddd !

[MetallNL]

Best song by BFMV and this is Pre-BFMV XD

[Kiee5777]

they were never called jeff killed john, the only name bullet had before bullet for my valentine was 3 pints of your girlfriends blood. x

[justlikeflid]

wrong, I still have the posters on my wall as proof!

[killa3131]

no they were called Jeff Killed John at a point in time.

[DeadxHorizon]

12 pints you stupid fuck

[Kiee5777]

@DeadxHorizon No it isn't even Matt Tuck says on there web page that it's 3

[kanesgrrl]

@Kiee5777 Actually, it was 12 Pints of Your GF's Blood and Jeff Killed John existed way before that. Jay wasn't even in the band yet. It was only Matt, Moose, and Padge and also another guitar player and a different bassist. I'm pretty sure every Bullet fan knows that on. And just FYI, 12 Pints didn't even stick as their band name, it was just an idea and that's how they came up with BFMV. If you wanna act like a know it all, learn your facts first.

[Kiee5777]

@kanesgrrl Actually love, padge joined during bullet for my valentine.

so shut up :) n u can actually go n ask matt cuz i did :). u learn your facts.

And i admit i got it mixed up with 12 and 3 i do apologise but they did sick with the name for abit.

And this band split up, which is when they met Jay and came across 12 pints of your girlfriends blood. they then changed there name to bullet for my valentine and sacked there guitarist which is when they met padge.

[kanesgrrl]

1 don't tell me to shut up 2 Padge actually WAS in Jeff Killed John. Him and Matt grew up together and there was also TWO guitarists in JKJ and the other one got kicked out for personal reasons and that was one of the main reasons they split.

[kanesgrrl]

@Kiee5777 And yes I know this for a fact because I was at their show last night and got to talk to all four of them. The band did split but Matt, Padge, and Moose stuck together and found Jay. Read their bio, hun. Plus, I've been listening to them for about 9 years now, so I know my facts and I wouldn't correct you if I didn't.

[Kiee5777]

@kanesgrrl i believe u r wrong, if u dnt believe me email them look on the website or on wikipedia. lol i dnt need to argue cuz im right, look on wiki or on there websit n it will prove it

[kanesgrrl]

@Kiee5777 Well I know I'm not wrong because I've been a fan for 9 years now, so I know my shit. And I got to talk to them about it the 19th when they were here. So are you calling them liars? And you can't believe everything you see on the internet, silly. Oh so gullible

[Kiee5777]

@kanesgrrl I have spoke to them n i have been a fan for 11 years lol

U can look on here at the interview where matt says it

[kanesgrrl]

@Kiee5777 @Kiee5777 Yeah you're an awesome fan. You're basically calling them liars. And also, you can look up the live video for JKJ's song Broad...you can see Padge in it, he has short hair which proves you wrong. And if you've been a fan for 11 years, you wouldn't have said that JKJ never existed in the first place because JKJ is how they started. Try again, hun

[kanesgrrl]

@Kiee5777 Jeff Killed John was the forerunner band to Bullet for My Valentine and was formed in 1998 by Matthew Tuck, Michael "Padge" Paget, Nick Crandle, and Michael "Moose" Thomas while studying music at Bridgend College.

Found this on Wikipedia. My point is proven

[Kiee5777]

@kanesgrrl ahhha ffs learn ur stuff instead of making shit up. wikipedia can be edited by anyone lol. it bullshit, u can find video on here, or u can ask them in person i have. matt even says in kerrang that the former guitarist with *bullet for my valentine* did not practise or live up to what padge can do.

[kanesgrrl]

@Kiee5777 Why would I make anything up? I wouldn't insult my favorite band like that unlike you who is calling them liars because I had this conversation with them like 4 days ago. And yes, look up the Broad music video by Jeff Killed John and you'll see Padge. He has short hair, he's the one in the black jacket. And yes they did get rid of one guitarist but they kept Padge. They had TWO guitarists in JKJ. But you wouldn't know that because you tried saying JKJ never existed in the first place

[kanesgrrl]

@Kiee5777 the group consists of childhood friends Matthew Tuck (vocals/guitar), Michael Padget (guitar/vocals), Jason James (bass/vocals), and Michael Thomas (drums). Everyone in the group, except James, had been performing together for a few years in Jeff Killed John, when the day before entering the recording studio, their bassist abruptly walked out.

[gabwolff288]

the whole song is turn to despair lol u have to knw the lyrics

[apocalipstyck]

Bullet for my Valentine used a lot of lyrics they wrote when they were eff illed john, like Eye Spy (By Jeff Killed John) is Hit the floor with different tempo and riffs.

[neveranemo]

your right mate it bloody well is aswel :P

[THERAGINGALCOHALIC]

DAMN i want this CD!

[dfwb9889]

12POMGB

JKJ

OIC

BFMV!!!

[whosbeensick]

OIC?

[mosherandproud278]

I love this :) trying to figure it out on guitar. The chorous is easy as hell

[nrose324]

i want this album so bad can you send it to me

[Alii243]

Cool

[B4MVrockssss]

its turn to despair demo ,

awsomeee =] 5 starsss

[Iwa151]

2:46-2:56 -Turn To Despair:)...

[yamomagon]

Is this still out in shops and stuff????

[ParticalEMotion]

@yamomagon

Probably in like REALLY good music stores.

[XpEAnUTBuTtERsUckSX]

@yamomagon it never was.............

[gabwolff288]

@yamomagon it was unreleased

[Mafiawars192]

only 20 copies were made

[ScarsOfTheCrucifix]

@Mafiawars192

That fuckin sucks

[rockersote]

got the album?