I was a SOLDIER in the US Army and I carried this knife,upside down on my LBE web gear..., and a boot knife. If you boys think this knife is crap, take a head count on all the dead Germans, Japs ,Koreans..& Viet Cong(Charlie).........If you dont know what your talking about, SHUT YOUR PIE HOLE! "Scouts OUT! "RECON"
@USMCstyle its used in all branches of the military. Ka-Bar is a Military knife manufacturer. they don't just make them for Marines. I know Army infantry soldiers that carry Army marked Ka-Bar knives into combat... just a side note... Marines are soldiers too. I know marine pride makes you think your not "classified" as a soldier, but if you read the definition of a soldier you'll understand. Thank you for your service btw, we need more men and woman willing to serve their country.
I own the one with leather sheat and handle. alot of people I see on youtube take good care of them and keep them out of the elements as good as possible, it's nice and they will last longer but I've decided that I will use mine until it breaks and then I buy a new one. I mean it was made to be used, why not use it?
steaming poop is right those grooves are called blood chanels or blood canals, when you stab somone the chanals fill with blood and make it easier to withdraw from the subject aswel at the end of the blade on the top are rib spliters that needs no explanation
The knives the marines had before WWII were made for trench warfare, having knuckes ring grips and spikes for very close quarter combat. Not very ideal for open field fighting.
You know where I first heard the term "Blood Groove"? A place called Parris Island, South Carolina read about it in a book called U.S. Marines Close-Quarter Combat Manual.
@chabi3000 well the k-bars run around 45-55 dollars. the fallkniven runs 100-200. thats an easy decision for me when purchasing a knife. if you have the money to blow on a knife then by all means
I did some research into this controversy. In the 1940s, the fuller was commonly called the blood groove. It's even printed on the side of the Ka-Bar USMC box (if you look very closely).
@nashi 55 You are right and i wasn't saying that to you i was saying it in general. How ever I do think that it does help blood flow out of the wound while the blade is in. But like you said, its not like the blade will be in the target that long. But im not sure if it strengthens the blade. I'm saying your'e wrong, but please tell me how it strengthens the blade.
You are right and i wasn't saying that to you i was saying it in general. How ever I do think that it does help blood flow out of the wound while the blade is in. But like you said, its not like the blade will be in the target that long. But im not sure if it strengthens the blade. I'm saying your'e wrong, but please tell me how it strengthens the blade.
@happygokillmore A groove creates area with 2 ridges on each side, in order to bend the blade you have to bend the ridges. Although no thicker, they provide section that is stronger. Like an I beam, or bed of a pickup truck. Steel is shaped in a way that increases strength. Flat piece of steel can be bent, but putting a groove in provides sections on both sides that are perpendicular to the blade. Might help to draw it out from the knife point view, one solid & one w/ big grooves on each side.
The groove releases suction when stabing someone also allows blood to seep out for easy removal remember this knife was not made for the wild or survival it serves 1 purpose and thats killing another person
@steamingpoopfart A fuller increases blade strength. Although no thicker, it provides a section that's stronger. A groove creates area with 2 ridges on each side, in order to bend the blade you have to bend the ridges. A bayonet will not seal so well you can't remove it. They'll bleed w/ a bayonet in them whether or not it has one. Once removed they'll suffer from a bleeding wound. It's not to get them to bleed to death right then, it's damaging major organs that will kill the enemy in seconds.
@nashi55 im just gonna let you know because im technical, but the groove doesn't make it stronger, it makes it weaker, but very little, the thing is, steel has to hold up its OWN weight, so an i-beam gets the best weight/strength ratio. a solid steel beam would weight nearly 3 times more and its strength would maybe be twice as good. I'm fairly sure that the groove on the ka-bar is a blood groove, but it's probably also to help balance the knife, plus its cheaper for them to make it like that.
@freakin1random Based on my reasearch the fuller hasn't nothing to do with allowing blood to flow. As mentioned before, it provides a stronger blade versus a plain flat blade. I guess we'll just have to disagree.
@steamingpoopfart steaming poop is right those grooves are called blood chanels or blood canals, when you stab somone the chanals fill with blood and make it easier to withdraw from the subject aswel at the end of the blade on the top are rib spliters that needs no explanation
@happygokillmore Geomatry, it won't help the blood flow at all, thats silly myths. It's shape does not bend as easily, with the shape of the groove, it makes it harder to bend, even though it's thinner. Think of a dome, gravity cannot act on it as well, as architects know, much better than thick thick flat rooves. Geomatry mboy
correct me if i'm wrong, but i am pretty sure that the groove in any blade especially one for combat is called a blood groove. it is called that because when you "stab" the enemy it allows blood to flow out of the wound while the blade is in the enemy.
@happygokillmore Not what I have always read, a fuller increases blade strength. Anyone will bleed with a bayonet in them whether or not it has one. I doubt it would be left in very long anyway - a few seconds perhaps? Once removed they will certainly suffer from a bleeding wound. The purpose isn't to get them to bleed to death right then, it's damaging major organs that will kill the enemy in seconds. Removing material will lighten a blade, not enough to notice, a few ounces. Disagree?
The fuller a.k.a. "blood groove" is to facilitate the withdrawel of the blade from flesh. Without the fuller, the blade can become stuck in someone (in some cases you have to actually would have to use your foot to push the body and pull the blade out). Geneva Convention Law states that any blade used in combat has to have one. Go Army . lol
@chisteso Thank you i have known that and i hope people stop saying it is to lighten the blade. In addition to what you said, If im not mistaken, the blood groove allows blood to flow out of the enemy while the blade is in.
that look's realy nice! id like to have one of them. but i do like my dads airforce combat/survival knife. its blade is about 5 inches (witch is planty) and it has a pouch bult in to the sheth that contains a sharpining stone. but that kabar is still nice and id like one.
im looking for a new hunting knife this year and i also want it to be a good survival knife if i get lost for a few days i know i can use it to survive but im not sure if it would be overkill for deer hunting is there anyone out there that uses one for hunting?
Sharpen it with Japanese Water Stones. Finish it with 8000 Grit Water Stone. This will make it razor sharp. Stock Sharpness is no where near as good as you can get with Japanese Water Stones
i have that very knife (just the straight blade though, it doesn't have serrations) as well as a smaller rubber handled one. i swear by both of them :) i'm also glad that someone else is interested with the history behind the knives
@vino122 Maybe since the Marines were first to use it? The design was approved by them first, so too me the history of the Ka-Bar begins with the Marines.
Great review! Very detailed and informative. Great knife too!
Ive always wanted a good comabt knife. I have a bunch of random utility knife and switch blades. Its hard to beat the usability of a good knife.
Ive looked into KA-BARS and Cold Steel knife a good amount. I like the Cold steel tactical knifes like the Black Bear Classic, OSS, OSI, and Recon Scout. There not cheap though.
Excellent knife and review! If you ask me, there's no knife like a KA-BAR. I prefer the straight edge style, that's also a tad bit shorter, because it's easier to carry, but the fullsize is still a GREAT knife. Have two upstairs myself, both USMC retired. Grandfather carried one in Korea and Vietnam, while my pops got his in the Marines, and carried it over in Iraq. Regardless of how old either of them are, they're both STILL sharp to this day. 5*s
I was a SOLDIER in the US Army and I carried this knife,upside down on my LBE web gear..., and a boot knife. If you boys think this knife is crap, take a head count on all the dead Germans, Japs ,Koreans..& Viet Cong(Charlie).........If you dont know what your talking about, SHUT YOUR PIE HOLE! "Scouts OUT! "RECON"
HerbWalker 1 month ago
@958933 Steel, actually.. made just like the knife.
supercool126 1 month ago
good review i think i might go out and buy one
knivesandguns1 1 month ago
I'm looking for a ka-bar that is very similar to the model used from ww2 to Vietnam. Can some one please respond?
JPSwissCheese 2 months ago
do you know theres a compass in the handle
bryongray123a 3 months ago
@bryongray123a
bryongray123a 2 months ago
its a Marines knife, not a solider
USMCstyle 4 months ago
@USMCstyle its used in all branches of the military. Ka-Bar is a Military knife manufacturer. they don't just make them for Marines. I know Army infantry soldiers that carry Army marked Ka-Bar knives into combat... just a side note... Marines are soldiers too. I know marine pride makes you think your not "classified" as a soldier, but if you read the definition of a soldier you'll understand. Thank you for your service btw, we need more men and woman willing to serve their country.
yatsuketa 3 months ago
Could you imagine using this in WW!!? Knives have come along way today from then, but this knife is still one of greatest knives ever crafted.
somedirtyangel 4 months ago
@958933 Nope - appearences can be deceiving....just paper.
nashi55 6 months ago
does anyone know what model the tanto on the left is at 5:13?
YourNameHere136 7 months ago
@YourNameHere136 Model 1245 :)
thebigdee100 7 months ago
@thebigdee100 thanks
YourNameHere136 7 months ago
I own the one with leather sheat and handle. alot of people I see on youtube take good care of them and keep them out of the elements as good as possible, it's nice and they will last longer but I've decided that I will use mine until it breaks and then I buy a new one. I mean it was made to be used, why not use it?
MooseHunter911 8 months ago
looks like a good knife, but im more of a sword person :3
extondude 8 months ago
steaming poop is right those grooves are called blood chanels or blood canals, when you stab somone the chanals fill with blood and make it easier to withdraw from the subject aswel at the end of the blade on the top are rib spliters that needs no explanation
Spiceyjewboy 8 months ago
The knives the marines had before WWII were made for trench warfare, having knuckes ring grips and spikes for very close quarter combat. Not very ideal for open field fighting.
SDhunter2020 8 months ago
You know where I first heard the term "Blood Groove"? A place called Parris Island, South Carolina read about it in a book called U.S. Marines Close-Quarter Combat Manual.
timdobb 9 months ago
Did that knife come with the catalog with all the knives in it?
vThatAirsoftGuy 9 months ago
@vThatAirsoftGuy Yes.
nashi55 9 months ago
not soldiers fighting knife... marine fighting knife
christhegreatish 10 months ago
oh my god :D Only about 130 dollars here in sweden :3 thought they were so much more expensive! Totally getting one of those!
Humanius93 1 year ago
@Humanius93 lol 60 bucks here...:P
TheHunterHatfield 11 months ago
Should i get this or a Fällkniven F1 ?
chabi3000 1 year ago
@chabi3000 well the k-bars run around 45-55 dollars. the fallkniven runs 100-200. thats an easy decision for me when purchasing a knife. if you have the money to blow on a knife then by all means
SuperJeremy25 1 year ago
@SuperJeremy25 Yeah, but Fallknivens are a pain in the ass to sharpen, and if you get a chip in it, you might as well buy a different knife.
Plus Ka-Bar is tried and true.
DustinTheGoth 1 year ago
@DustinTheGoth not to mention, Fallkniven blades are gonna break your bank.
ShaggyOtis 10 months ago
I did some research into this controversy. In the 1940s, the fuller was commonly called the blood groove. It's even printed on the side of the Ka-Bar USMC box (if you look very closely).
whitethronebooks 1 year ago
this is all around great knife....have the same one and it has great weight to it, good for hacking ....got mine for 46 from amazon
KiiNgofTheCastle 1 year ago
@nashi 55 You are right and i wasn't saying that to you i was saying it in general. How ever I do think that it does help blood flow out of the wound while the blade is in. But like you said, its not like the blade will be in the target that long. But im not sure if it strengthens the blade. I'm saying your'e wrong, but please tell me how it strengthens the blade.
happygokillmore 1 year ago
You are right and i wasn't saying that to you i was saying it in general. How ever I do think that it does help blood flow out of the wound while the blade is in. But like you said, its not like the blade will be in the target that long. But im not sure if it strengthens the blade. I'm saying your'e wrong, but please tell me how it strengthens the blade.
happygokillmore 1 year ago
@happygokillmore A groove creates area with 2 ridges on each side, in order to bend the blade you have to bend the ridges. Although no thicker, they provide section that is stronger. Like an I beam, or bed of a pickup truck. Steel is shaped in a way that increases strength. Flat piece of steel can be bent, but putting a groove in provides sections on both sides that are perpendicular to the blade. Might help to draw it out from the knife point view, one solid & one w/ big grooves on each side.
nashi55 1 year ago 6
The groove releases suction when stabing someone also allows blood to seep out for easy removal remember this knife was not made for the wild or survival it serves 1 purpose and thats killing another person
steamingpoopfart 10 months ago
@steamingpoopfart A fuller increases blade strength. Although no thicker, it provides a section that's stronger. A groove creates area with 2 ridges on each side, in order to bend the blade you have to bend the ridges. A bayonet will not seal so well you can't remove it. They'll bleed w/ a bayonet in them whether or not it has one. Once removed they'll suffer from a bleeding wound. It's not to get them to bleed to death right then, it's damaging major organs that will kill the enemy in seconds.
nashi55 10 months ago 2
@nashi55 im just gonna let you know because im technical, but the groove doesn't make it stronger, it makes it weaker, but very little, the thing is, steel has to hold up its OWN weight, so an i-beam gets the best weight/strength ratio. a solid steel beam would weight nearly 3 times more and its strength would maybe be twice as good. I'm fairly sure that the groove on the ka-bar is a blood groove, but it's probably also to help balance the knife, plus its cheaper for them to make it like that.
freakin1random 5 months ago
@freakin1random Based on my reasearch the fuller hasn't nothing to do with allowing blood to flow. As mentioned before, it provides a stronger blade versus a plain flat blade. I guess we'll just have to disagree.
nashi55 5 months ago
@steamingpoopfart steaming poop is right those grooves are called blood chanels or blood canals, when you stab somone the chanals fill with blood and make it easier to withdraw from the subject aswel at the end of the blade on the top are rib spliters that needs no explanation
Spiceyjewboy 8 months ago
@happygokillmore Geomatry, it won't help the blood flow at all, thats silly myths. It's shape does not bend as easily, with the shape of the groove, it makes it harder to bend, even though it's thinner. Think of a dome, gravity cannot act on it as well, as architects know, much better than thick thick flat rooves. Geomatry mboy
oOChaosWolfOo 1 year ago
@happygokillmore the groove is a blood groove to help the flow of blood exit the person/animal.
red0neck0skier 1 year ago
@red0neck0skier It's to lighten the blade. Nothing more nothing less. People generally don't leave the knife in the person.
Jetman123 1 year ago
correct me if i'm wrong, but i am pretty sure that the groove in any blade especially one for combat is called a blood groove. it is called that because when you "stab" the enemy it allows blood to flow out of the wound while the blade is in the enemy.
happygokillmore 1 year ago
@happygokillmore Not what I have always read, a fuller increases blade strength. Anyone will bleed with a bayonet in them whether or not it has one. I doubt it would be left in very long anyway - a few seconds perhaps? Once removed they will certainly suffer from a bleeding wound. The purpose isn't to get them to bleed to death right then, it's damaging major organs that will kill the enemy in seconds. Removing material will lighten a blade, not enough to notice, a few ounces. Disagree?
nashi55 1 year ago
my grandpas friend held a german man down while my grandpa was stabbin him with the kabar gruesome!!!!!! but thats war
KiiNgofTheCastle 1 year ago
did you know that the ka-bar that you got is also used by the israily comando troops sorry dont know how to spell it
TheUV123 1 year ago
@TheUV123 Nope, didn't know the Israeli troops used it.
nashi55 1 year ago
@TheUV123 thats cool man. 2 best military's use the same knife. much to be said for the k-bar
SuperJeremy25 1 year ago
@SuperJeremy25
i know this knife is beast
TheUV123 1 year ago
My Ka-Bar is the full sized balck non serrated version. I have had no problems. I bought the hard kydex sheath.
weekendmarksman 1 year ago
Good history review
chisteso 1 year ago
The fuller a.k.a. "blood groove" is to facilitate the withdrawel of the blade from flesh. Without the fuller, the blade can become stuck in someone (in some cases you have to actually would have to use your foot to push the body and pull the blade out). Geneva Convention Law states that any blade used in combat has to have one. Go Army . lol
chisteso 1 year ago
@chisteso bull
lilhawkk26 1 year ago
@lilhawkk26 just provide evidence to the contrary....and I'll side with you.
chisteso 1 year ago
@chisteso Thank you i have known that and i hope people stop saying it is to lighten the blade. In addition to what you said, If im not mistaken, the blood groove allows blood to flow out of the enemy while the blade is in.
happygokillmore 1 year ago
that look's realy nice! id like to have one of them. but i do like my dads airforce combat/survival knife. its blade is about 5 inches (witch is planty) and it has a pouch bult in to the sheth that contains a sharpining stone. but that kabar is still nice and id like one.
ViperEcho14 1 year ago
this knife is the bad ass of all knifes
egever 1 year ago
that grove also helps when u stab someone since theres a vaccum effect in your body it makes it easier to pull the blade out
chevygearhead454 1 year ago
there are soldiers and then there are marines. so who's knife is it?
seffy333 1 year ago
@seffy333 They are both U.S. GIs to me, so it blongs to both!!! Plus, Army troops and Marines used it during the war. Problem solved!!!
nashi55 1 year ago
@nashi55 i skipped around in ur vid, but im not sure if u mentioned: where did u get that? really thinking about getting one of those
gh4pwner 1 year ago
@gh4pwner Got it from TomarsKabars online. They have all the models to choose from.
nashi55 1 year ago
can someone tell me the difference, between the Fighting knife, and the fighting/utility knife.
Its about 10 euro's difference, the fighting being the cheapest.
marcisgreatAA 1 year ago
im looking for a new hunting knife this year and i also want it to be a good survival knife if i get lost for a few days i know i can use it to survive but im not sure if it would be overkill for deer hunting is there anyone out there that uses one for hunting?
jezus92191 1 year ago
@jezus92191 tons of people. this is an all around great knife
ukuleleprodigy 1 year ago
it's pronounced "O-lee-ann" not " O-Leen." I'm from there..just sayin '
TangoTracker223 1 year ago
Sharpen it with Japanese Water Stones. Finish it with 8000 Grit Water Stone. This will make it razor sharp. Stock Sharpness is no where near as good as you can get with Japanese Water Stones
frosty4700 1 year ago
O'-lee-ann, NY
whitethronebooks 1 year ago
i have that very knife (just the straight blade though, it doesn't have serrations) as well as a smaller rubber handled one. i swear by both of them :) i'm also glad that someone else is interested with the history behind the knives
christopherremmel 2 years ago
Nice knife. Why everybody prefers UMCS Kabar to NAVY or ARMY KaBars?
Is there a difference between them?
vino122 2 years ago
@vino122 Maybe since the Marines were first to use it? The design was approved by them first, so too me the history of the Ka-Bar begins with the Marines.
Only difference is emblems.
nashi55 2 years ago
Great review! Very detailed and informative. Great knife too!
Ive always wanted a good comabt knife. I have a bunch of random utility knife and switch blades. Its hard to beat the usability of a good knife.
Ive looked into KA-BARS and Cold Steel knife a good amount. I like the Cold steel tactical knifes like the Black Bear Classic, OSS, OSI, and Recon Scout. There not cheap though.
Xx69roadrunnerxX 2 years ago
@Xx69roadrunnerxX Thanks man!
nashi55 2 years ago
Excellent review! 5/5 I am thinking of buying the same knife now that I have seen this review!
kippyjohnson 2 years ago
Very nice!!! I like the handle! *****
lookin4memarbles 2 years ago
@lookin4memarbles
Me too. Thanks friend!
nashi55 2 years ago
Excellent knife and review! If you ask me, there's no knife like a KA-BAR. I prefer the straight edge style, that's also a tad bit shorter, because it's easier to carry, but the fullsize is still a GREAT knife. Have two upstairs myself, both USMC retired. Grandfather carried one in Korea and Vietnam, while my pops got his in the Marines, and carried it over in Iraq. Regardless of how old either of them are, they're both STILL sharp to this day. 5*s
XxLeggZxX 2 years ago
Exellent knife!
GrimRetort 2 years ago