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  • It is good to see a well reasoned argument for computer games.

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  • Only reason I wouldn't play in M rated game in the future is if it had any material nightmare inducing (Manhunt, GTA series, Dead Space... A lot of others)

  • jack thompson is an asshole

  • Gaming saved me from killing myself during my depression.

  • I wish kids would stay away from m rated games it spoils it for adults wanting to be adults so fuck parents who buy m rated for there spoiled bitch ass brat kids

  • Lol at the troll in the black sabbath shirt

  • wow an adult with a brain ! that's rare !

  • This is all bullshit...

    Grand Theft Auto let's hoodlums kill virtual people instead of actual people.

    *Trollface*

  • Guitar Hero?

  • I have been praying that he would shut up. If i meet him i would say your waiting for that dumb thing but you don't understand what your doing is dumber than anything everybody has seen.

  • Now we have movie like games all it takes is for 1 or a handful of nuts, just like Columbine or Dunblaine over here. And the games industry will find more sanctions and fines slapped onto it than it would know what hit it. But I for one already think they have gone too far just like films.

  • I think the games industry have thier head in the sand. Try searching God Of War and see how young the commenters who say it's so awesome to see someone head get torn off! So with the fact young people can get hold of such materials at an impressionable age with the over zealous games producers wanting to push the limits of whats acceptable you have to look at it from the prespective of films. Would you wnt a 14 year old to watch Hostel? The games industry is going to get stung!

  • @Amarx00

    "see how young the commenters who say it's so awesome to see someone head get torn off!"

    - yes, 'IN THE GAME'

    "So with the fact young people can get hold of such materials at an impressionable age"

    - if you see something violent in a video game and then decide to re-inact it in real life, THEN YOU HAVE MENTAL PROBLEMS (the game might have made this more apparent, but it's not the cause - as evidenced by all the people who play these games and are fine)

  • @types10000

    And why is that then? Why is it games dont need the same degree of controls as do films? simply because it's a game is not enough. There are limits to everything & when games become photo realistic (give another 5-10 years)

    Then whats the difference?

    What I'm saying is if games companies are not aware of these issues and dont treat them with respect then they are in for a rude awakening! (Courtcases, fines.. that kind of thing)

  • @Amarx00

    "And why is that then?...Then whats the difference?"

    - because it is fantasy (NOT REALITY), if you cant make the distinction then you have psychological problems

    "Why is it games dont need the same degree of controls as do films?"

    - the reason ratings exist is to prevent people gaining access to content that is INAPPROPRIATE for their age group NOT about stopping them reinacting said things

  • @types10000

    But as I said there is a limit to everything! How much further would we need to push the envelope to end up with something thats gone too far? The ratings are only one thing, it would need all the same level of controls as we see in filmindustry. And the same penalties. How easy is it for a kid to buy this game? And compare that to how easy it is for them to get an R rated movie!

  • @Amarx00

    "But as I said there is a limit to everything!"

    - yes, but what you fail to understand is why the limit exists

    "How much further would we need to push the envelope to end up with something thats gone too far?"

    - there is no 'too far' there is simply publishing requirements for certain areas and either the game complies with it or it doesnt.

  • @Amarx00

    Can video games be a trigger for violence in children? Sure, but so can the Teletubbies.

    ie. if video games make your child violent then he was already psychologically damaged to begin with and the video games have just made the defect more apparent

  • @Psergiop2 But it's badly affected your spelling and grammar!

  • gta is for 18+ i play it since im 8 , it didnt make me any violent til n ow that im 13 and gta has gang wars , lot of guns , blood and i modified it to become with better blood effects , til now im not any more violent cuz of the game.

  • I just played mass effect.... and now for some reason i wamt to kill somebody

    that what the news thinks is happening lol

  • Btw Mario causes rape and donkey kong causes drug addiction

  • Thomson called the game Bully a columbin (I don't know how it's spelled) simulator

  • Funny thing is... I've played GTA, I've played Dead Space, I've played Gears, COD, and No Russian. Yet, I have no intention on killing. People say video games corrupt the minds of children. First of all is, they go off a stereo type, play the game yourself and be the judge which is what no one does. Second is after playing any violent video game I had no intention to kill, murder, slaughter, rape, use drugs or even pick up a gun so I have no idea what the fuck these stiff necks are talking about

  • @Thomasveach95 ikr? the first time i played GTA, it was vice city for the ps2 when i was 4, it's never affected me, they just want to shield kids

  • ARE U SHITTING ME? half the stuff on tv and movies are just as bad, besides, people who play violent games can handle that... AND every kid has to have a parent or adult buy a "M" rated game, so that leads to not bad games, but to bad parenting. i do agree that it can cause "rage" but that dosnt extend to beyond the playing atmosphere

  • "Video game violence is a complex topic that will be discussed for years to come" LOLWUT?

  • Lol 1:15

  • Why are the Christians always the ones that think things are evil >.<

    Those people give us Christians a bad name...

  • i love how it goes from pong to freakin bioshock.

    yup, some progression lol

  • 0:35

    respect for being an ultimate troll... those weren't even real games

  • hey guys i'm sixteen and i play gta and i'm christian and you don't see me killing pl for no reason

  • Video games don't make people do anything.

  • Jack Thompson a christian, why the hell is there a star of david on his tree

  • @peeweeherman242 Jack (bitch) Thompson is a mexican christian faggot

  • shocking study just in... video games are in fact not real

  • KDR> GPA

  • I find it funny how children and teenagers know that its a game and not real life. But the adults are the ones complaining. So it just shows that they think its real

  • "crack baby massacre" that had me in tears laughing my ass off

  • I play violent video games....also I plan the destruction of the world. I learned it from these said video games.

  • lmao all the gamers I know are actually incredibly passive, while it's the jock snots and skater punks who are the violent ones. More people just blaming stuff for their own problems. Maybe if people wouldn't drink in front of their kids or hit them, they wouldn't be violent. Sounds a lot more believable than blaming it on a disk.

  • The guy with the Black Sabbath shirt shouldn't play video games. He seems too immature.

  • This topic always makes me laugh because there were no video games during the inquisition, the crusades, the Salem witch trials, the civil war etc.

    violence is inherent in the human species, and the people who are most to blame for this are the ones who attempt to place the blame somewhere where it is causing no harm. The mentality of these people is that so long as their own rights and interests are not intruded on, then everything else can be banned censored and probated.

  • There is a correlation between violent video games and violent behaviour.

    We need greater restrictions on kids playing these games. For example: if a game is rated 18+ then implement a system where anyone under that age cannot play that game.

  • @Antipopularization i sure hope thats sarcasm

  • @LabyrinthOfDream No, I'm dead serious. Kids shouldn't be exposed to things that are deemed to mature for them.

    Plus it would make playing online a much more enjoyable experience. No one wants a high pitched child screaming into their mic.

  • @Antipopularization I understand that idea of yours, but it truly will not work. Most of my games are 17+ and I'm only 15. The only people who can actually implement that idea would be parents. As parents do have final say on what things to buy for their childeren.

  • the people who commit assualt, murder, etc. are just looking for something to blame so they say "GTA messed me up" I have played the game im fine ive played other violent video games they are just fun

  • i play gta and im just FUCKING FINE! if u fucking take my FUCKING GAMES AWAY ill STAB YOU AND SHOOT YOU!

  • @maincourseistoocool lol, dont say that, they will take you seriously and we really will have to kill them

  • ...

  • Can we get ride of the trash talk and have a discussion like logical adults here?

  • wheh whe whe *crying* my mommy didnt bought me games so i am going to talk shit about it....asshole

  • shit my youth minister just beat me in black ops

  • i dont get it based on personal experience i was more violent before i played violent gamed hell i even punched my own best friend in the face but now that we both play violent games were closer than ever

  • Halo? Violent?...pppsssshhh

    

  • @jeremydkirby i agree thats bull crap

  • So it's sensible to ban the rednecks but NOT the ragheads or the kikes? Seriously... (kudos if you got which religion was represented by each word.)

  • where have I heard the first song from??

  • I love video games and no one can take that right away!

  • What I don't get is that if video games caused violent behaviour then why has the crime rate actually been decreasing over the years?

  • @DarkSpydaIV I know that's what I was going to point out. And I heard somewhere that scientists have done studies that have proven that violence in video games helps relieve stress in young teens and keeps them from going out and harming real people. Video games aren't causing violence. The constant glorification of violence in movies and shows are what promote violence. And even then it isn't the show or the movies fault it's the parent's for letting their kid(s) watch it in the first place.

  • @TheChickenRiceBowl Violence in movies and shows? Blaming other forms of media is no worse than blaming it on gaming. As far as I see it, the entire world is screwed up and the only individuals to blame are parents.

  • @DarkSpydaIV nice job man to top comments

  • @DarkSpydaIV Because the violent people are all inside playing GTA IV

  • @DarkSpydaIV the violent people are all busy playing GTA IV

  • @DarkSpydaIV because, all the gamers have been planning a rebellion, and we're going to destroy fox news, u just haven't got an invite. i'll send you one.

    thumbs up for sarcasm people

  • @DarkSpydaIV Maybe children are starting to realize that video-game violence isn't real and that hurting other people in any possible way is wrong.

  • @DarkSpydaIV OH GOD BATMAN IS REAL OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG

    LOL LOL LOL U THOUGHT I WAS SIRIUS LOL LOL LOL *TROLLFACE*

  • @GammaWALLE Lolwut?

  • After many years of playing Mario Brothers I have this uncontrollable impulse to jump on the heads of people, I guess its for the coins. -crying

  • @brianh406 thats just plain awesome, :D

  • jack thompson is a patriot games like grand theft auto and man hunt are teaching kids how to murder. Games like dead space and mario are not teaching kids how to murder. particulary i like dead space and i am a gamer

  • @curtgowdysharkhunter dead space allows you to fucking cut monsters up!

  • @thatgirishican811 exactly and its scared the crap out of me when i saw the monsters jumping out of the vents

  • @curtgowdysharkhunter IM CONFUSED lawl

  • Anyone else hear about the fourty-six year old man who choked a teenager out over COD online? In my opinion I think Older people should stay away from games, they seem to be the crazy lunitics already. Kids growing up playing games won't make them lunitics, aparently life will.

  • How can these murder-simulators -- sorry, "video games" -- just be "harmless fun? Do you really think that you can play this "counter strikes" and "doom" filth and not be affected by it? What do you think they teach you? Listen to the names, silly! - Violence and satanism, respectively.

    It's so easy. All you have to do is to stop playing this garbage, and do the right thing: Say "No thank you, I'm sticking with Jesus". Jesus is tonnes more fun than this smut, and he's the way to paradise, too!

  • @EikC There's no "Jesus" and "Jesus" is not "tonnes more fun than this smut" to hell with your fucking religion and the people who practice it

  • @EikC Sorry, but I'd rather have fun with my free time rather than dedicate it to following every word of a badly translated self-contradicting book thousands of years old written by a bunch of crackpots and liers who think they saw supernatural beings. Honestly, it's crazier than believing everyone who says they were abducted by aliens, and it holds you back from making the most of your short, precious life.

  • @EikC OMFG you are such a dumbass XD, dude, i have ALL those games you just listed and have not felt the urge to do anything but beat the game, after getting up ocassionaly to use the bathroom, do homework, eat and sleep. by the way im 13. it doesnt help your case either when you bring religion into the case >:P

  • to the person that made this video, you are right

  • this is funny :P

  • OF COURSE they do the report mostly on GTA

  • Does Jack even have any kids??? All violence doesnt come from videogames. I dont even believe any videogame has caused murder.

  • Dear Jackass Thompson i mean this dearly from the bottom of my heart

    GO FUCK YOURSELF!

  • We should ban really religious Christians. Stoning people to death for working on Saturdays? Thats like saying its bad to make money for your family and support your family and yourself because you chose the wrong day to do it. Seriously? They even use their dumb and retarded bible as an excuse to spank their kids. Churchs can suck my crap.

  • Does there stand Pegi 18+ For Fun? U Old DipShit i think Ur just jelous (idk if its correct) cuz games from now are much better then back in a day?

  • How about we crackdown on parents instead of videogames!

    Why do you think they are getting into the hands of kids?

  • jack thompson please go fuck off!

    -sean or halobrother09

  • Hey OMG maybe I can become a rockstar by playing Guitar Hero!!

  • If a kid becomes violent because they play violent video games it's because of two things: One, the parents didn't teach them the difference between video games and reality. You can never do anything in real life that you could do on GTA. I've played violent video games since i was 4 and i'm not violent and i never got into a fight and never want to because i have common sense and my parents taught me from right and wrong. And two, the kid just doesn't have any common sense to begin with.

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  • If a video games makes your child act differently during real life situations... its not the video games fault its bad genetics and stupid people and bad parenting. If i stole something my parent would beat the shit out of me because they don't take shit cause they are from brooklyn and the bronx so im fucked ha

  • wait a guy said guitar hero and he says that thats violent?

  • Blood Bath 3, Stab a Hooker, uuh, Crack Baby Massacre, LAPD Beach Black People. LOLOL

  • idk about you but video games are what kept me off the streets

  • You can't go around killing people if your too busy owning people in halo and cod or too busy getting high up in the leaderboards

  • My drawing teacher or whatever u call it at my school plays assassins creed and call of duty and he is not violent! He ownes me at call of duty :(

  • If anything we should get rid of religion.

  • dont let ur kids turn out like that kid with the sabbath shirt. Oh my lord. HUGE FACE PALM. i cant believe whoever did the interviewing left that kid in.

  • it a parenting... problem... this would win almost ever arguement on this topic.

  • Honestly why are parents bitching. by law you have to be 18 (if from canada) to buy these games, its like buying a pack of smokes, if a retail outlet sells games rated M to a minor they'll get fined. Furthermore Parents have you played these games?

  • Wtf i take my anger on the video games instead of killing someone.

    Not that i would kill anybody if i coulden't murder in a game but i see games as an virtual world where i can do things that are "Impossible" in the real life.

    I play alot of Gta and i play alot of Super Mario (on the snes) :) and i haven't seen a difference on my beehavor at all.

    (My english is pretty bad i'm 14 and from Sweden so yeah...)

  • you know whats interesting? the worst crime rates came at the end of the 8-bit era

    probably because ppl needed more drugs to get through those terrible LJN games

  • If you read Violent Pastimes, it proves "violence" now is nothing compared to what it used to be.

  • i use violent games to relieve my anger.

    like when i come home angry and pissed, i just play a violent game like gow or manhunt and i feel much better.

  • violence has been romanticized since the greek times, read the illiad, some things in that were pretty graphic. Humanity is fascinated and inspired by war, it brings out the best and worst in humanity. Now it is a simple and virtual simulation of such heroic tales, humans are entertained by war, and nothing will change that.

  • I bet you that Jack Thompson guy plays alot of violent games and has a fetish for violence. Kinda like the gay preachers who begin crusades against homosexuality.

  • so......old people and parents are the ones responsible for Mortal Kombat vs DC?!?!

  • HA video games violent didn't the Christians lead a crusade to kill all non Christine i guess that wasn't violent babyback ribs!

  • I played Postal 2 with awp mod (it has alot of features and new stuff,one of them being guts falling out after killing someone...) and i am STILL sane even though im only 11! What i hate is that most kids (Except me) get idea's to hurt cats,dogs,etc... im the only sane kid in this world that plays violent games,i never hurt anyone,i never killed anyone!

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  • There was just one game wich made me stop playing games for a week IT WAS MANHUNT FUCK THAT GAME IS SICK!!!!!!

  • I gotta give some respect to the dude in sunglasses at 0:23 for saying KOTOR

  • That Jack Thompson guy is a complete idiot! Come on these are called GEMS for a reason. because they are suposed to be fun things to do to spend your free time. I can understand it when a guy says that his son/dughter is addicted to games as I have been addicted too but I saw the light and stopped. But when I used to play games like GTA I never even once thought of beating up or brutaly murdering the kid who used to bully me at school. Never once. And I doubt anyone else has too!

  • @tuzathedarknight Ok I meant to say GAMES ot GEMS. oops

  • HA that dude with the glasses is a cool nerd.

  • You have no point to prove and never had one because your "intelligence" is based solely off of ignorance. I'm not angry but passionate in my words to put you and the rest of you ignorant assholes in your place. You people have no sympathy for anyone. You can't take responsibility for your children's actions so you blame it on violent media and video games...crusading to rid the world of entertainment, thus ultimately leaving behind a dark, boring world of paranoia and decay.

  • GO CHARGERS!!!!!

  • videogames are sometimes my way of letting off steam if im pissed im guessing some people would rather me go actually go fucking hurt someone rather than just shoot someone in a video game that will effect no one

  • Those kids seemed like they have problems... Bad portrayal of gamers if you ask me. But in all truth games are an outlet for violence. It's sad that those kids don't portrayed what gamers are really like.

  • true.....smash bros needs to be stopped

  • oh about movies they are more real then game itself!

  • Jack Thompson??? again??? I'm out of here!

  • they say violent video games cause people to make crimes, but theres more violent movies than video games -.-

  • Did anyone else notice that the majority of people who are against violent video games are religious lunatics? Coincidence? I think not.

  • @LolitaSupreme Good sense in adding the "lunatics" part. No one gets offended that way. It's always the religious nutjobs, because they don't want to give in to change. Do you know how many people tried to stop film from becoming an art??

    Well, anyways, Violence in videogames is oftentimes unrealistic violence that for the most part isn't meant for you to be bale to replicate in real life. With games like GTA, it's different. But even with GTA, they have no proof that it causes violence!

  • @LolitaSupreme lol my theology teacher is a priest and thinks that the idea of games causing violence in stupid

  • @brianh406 THANK YOU! to be honest that is kinda true. whoever marked this as spam must be one of those people who are also trollz

  • The advice my mother gave me about distinguishing video games from real life turned out to be the best advice I've ever heard:

    You don't have any extra lives in real life.

  • im 18 and i never even thought video game could make a person violent hahaha ppl make me laugh like da guy said u gotta know da difference between fantasy and reality i play video games my whole life and im not violent at all 

  • @meheale are you stupid? Do you research strong claims like that before posting about it? Shootings and things like that have DECLINED and in 07 was less than half than in 94. You're taking isolated incidents and dumping all the blame on violent media. Crime rates have DECLINED over the years. Reasoning behind school shootings go FAR deeper than just a kid's parents taking away their Xbox. If you don't believe that, YOU'RE the one in denial.

  • @unusuallynormal231 Denial....

  • DEAR PARENT STOP BUYING GEARS OF WAR GRAND THEFT AUTO CALL OF DUTY GOD OF WAR BIOSHOCK FORSAKKEN TEKKEN HALO DANTES INFERNO KILL ZONE MORTAL COMBAT RED DEAD REDEMTION CALL OF JAUREZ BOUND IN BLOOD STALKER METRO 2033 METAL GEAR SOLID COUNTER STRIKE BATTLEFEILD DOOM BULLY LEFT FOR DEAD MANHUNT TWO WORLDS DEAD OR ALIVE MIRRORS EDGE SAINTS ROW MASS EFFECT BORDERLANDS MEDAL OF HONER SOCOM THE SUFFURING SO PARENTS NEXT TIME YOUR BUYING YOUR KID THAT BLOOD EDITION FUCKING THINK NEXT TIME YOU DUMB ASSES

  • I guess I'm lucky that my dad loves CoD :D

  • We see more school shootings and acts of violence in these times we are living in and yet people are so much in denial. Come on, obviously the violence in our entertainment today is making everyone who indulges in them more aggressive.

  • @meheale You're a tool of the ambulance chasers. Stop catering to all the irresponsible parents who use violent video games and media as a scapegoat for violence in society.

  • @CrosseyedPwnzy You are in denial and scared. What other reason is there for the horrible ways that people behave? WAKE up and look at the world we live in you naive child.

  • @meheale Furthermore it is you who is in denial for listening to these so called "experts" on TV. I also know for a fact and as a junior historian that VIDEO GAMES were not around 30 years ago and we still had just as much violence then as we do now...if not more! The media is an endless cycle of sensationalist bullshit that caters to the puppets like you. Aim higher and set your standards deeper and you will see what I and just about the rest of the intelligent world is talking about. Child.

  • @CrosseyedPwnzy Do you not see how angry and aggressive you are? I prove my point. Keep playing your violent games and watching your violent movies Mr Anger.

  • @CrosseyedPwnzy Mmmmm you must be irresponsible yourself...tell me something TOOL...do you let your children play an M rated game full of guns, profanity, violence, sex and drugs? You or someone you know (someone close) probably does. Learn to get your fucking information from true sources like factual non-sensationalized media and not these bozos you see on TV. Better yet...fuck media...you want to do research? GOOGLE it...get off your lazy, irresponsible ass and do something..stop trolling.

  • OUGHHHHH GET SOME!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Notice how all the people that are against violent video games are old bastards who never played a video game in the life

  • what's the game at 2:24 ? :P

  • @xxxtoxxxandxxx metal gear solid 4

  • @halcober thanks man

  • lieberman and khol ran this crusade in the 90s and they lost fighting midway about mortal kombat guess what they lost milions of dollars and gave up and so will he video games make more money than movies a year

  • i hate jack thompson and this is the first time hearing about him

  • Guy at 0:39 is obviously a /b/tard

  • If that fuckhead Jack Thompson knew that if someone played God of War, then decided to go out and chop people's head off or rip their eye out, it would only be because they are looking for Jack Thompson so they could kill him, parents fault, end of fucking story

  • there were just 2 games m rated that people said they were all violant wtf

  • its fact that violent video games have no effect on the way people act. and anyways kids should't be playing these games there made for adults.

  • @forde105 I'm 11 and I hump bitches.

  • crack baby massacre

  • f#ck u jack thompson

  • GO VIOLENCE FUCK THE INGORANT FUCKERS WHO THINKS CHILDREN SHOULDNT PLAY M RATED GAMES THEY FUCKING SHOULD IT TEACHES THEM HOW TO DEFEND AND YET FIND OUT THE CONSEQUENCES WHEN YOU DO BAD SHIT and people should not be concerned it doesnt make people violent its the fucking way you are raised if your parents raped you or taught you to kill people then growing up they get fucked up in the head and violence in games does not do SHIT

  • That immature kid at 0:57 gives people like Jack Thompson a reason to be angry at video game developers. Some people are just sadistic, which is why there are games like "stab a hooker" and that JFK assassination game. Whats funny is that only immature people want to play a game for all the gore and violence that gives the game a M for Mature rating.

    Please thumbs up if you agree with this / want to spread the word instead of some dumb one-liner like "thumbs up if you hate jack thompson".

  • @ThisGuysRetarded I wonder what sarcasm is.

  • People act like video games will ruin people lives and turn them to killers. Its just entertainment. If you parents have a problem, don't buy them for your children. Put a parental control on their videogame systems. Parents bitch but yet they probably don't do anything about it.

  • @FoxifiedNutjob wat the fuck

  • @FoxifiedNutjob  People like you piss me off, all you parents want to do is censor their kids out from everything and make them learn boring things. And the games are not that bad. Let kids be free.

  • @FoxifiedNutjob AMEN brother !

  • @FoxifiedNutjob wow violant video games like gears of war and deadspace are made for entertainment if you dont lke the games then stay away from them if the kid likes them and has the money and console ect. then its up to them video games arnt going anywere! and the violance was here ever since man first held a sword in his/her hands GET OVER IT!!

  • @FoxifiedNutjob Exactly, christians are fucking idiots

  • @FoxifiedNutjob - You nutjob. That stereotype and attitude is gonna start trouble in the real world.