Muhammad Ali and the Vietnam War

[timewilltell7]

I saw Platoon last night - Henry Kissinger should not be walking free - he should be lynched

[OrangeColloredMoon]

There are many great reason why to hate USA, and very few to hate Muhammad Ali!

[LandLoop]

@themegamunkey123 Please you probably wouldn't even go to the war if you were drafted, so please don't call other people names. He didn't go to the war just because he didn't want, and because it wasn't his war to fight, BUT because he truly believed in his religion, so he was going to go by the rules. Besides if he was a coward then he would've left the country like most people did. He stayed behind, faced all the consequences and fought against racism.

[themegamunkey123]

he didnt fight cos he was a coward and then he tried to make out that he was a hero

[markeithmm89]

@themegamunkey123 I would never fight a whites mens war. When world world 3 hits, everyone will be against the white race.

[wilburfatness]

@themegamunkey123 a coward? haha your fucking retarded.

[HateFenians]

He was a brave man staying behind, fighting racism from your grandparents!

[EarlRausch]

What a great man Ali was and is, He stood for what his beliefs ,

I have nothing but RESPECT for him and all Muslim's who truly take there religion to heart

I choose not to judge a man or woman by there color but rather by there actions.

I chose not to say the word N**** not from peer pressure but rather respect for all of those great and even not so great men and women who have stood tall in the past and yes in the present

MegaPamela, I cant change the past but I damn sure can change the future

[MegaPamela77]

white man nature is very bad , killer from the soul , very wicked people

[sonofthedestroyer]

@MegaPamela77,

They are the Tamahu. Investigate that term

[BJMIXTAPES4LIFE]

@MegaPamela77 true, very true!!!!!!

[apestaartje321]

@BJMIXTAPES4LIFE Lol, as your comments illustrate, being a racist moron is not a privilege reserved for white people.

[poiquilotermo]

@MegaPamela77 No diference about black or white people... only de color, and the situation where they've been teached....and the ways they've chosen....

[yonisfarah]

@MegaPamela77 Not all white people are killers nor bad. Don't be hypocrite. My Muslim brothers come in all colors. Allah judges man only on his deeds not skin color. My Somalian people were colonized and massacred by the Brits, French and Italians but I can't hate them because of their skin color. Its their deeds that I hate because there are Muslims who are born amongst them and I dearly love. The cure to racism is Islam.

[xIegionx]

@MegaPamela77 White man fucks your women. White man rules the world. Get over it. Black men love the whites, thats why they have sex with them and work for them.

[rbatheNORSEMAN]

@MegaPamela77 ...And they call us racist. You act like we're not a race. I don't hate blacks. I have black cousins and am very proud to their family.

[optimistsRUS]

Here lies the yellow man, killed by a black man, fighting for the white man, who killed all the red men. -Malcolm X on Vietnam

[xIegionx]

Ali was a coward straight fact. He didn't even have the guts to admit it. Other people were cowards and ran too but at least they admit they were scared of death.

[LandLoop]

@xIegionx No he wasn't a coward because if he did he WOULD HAVE ran from the country. He didn't go because of what he believed in was the main purpose. He faced all the consequences and stayed behind in America faced/fought the racism .

[xIegionx]

@LandLoop He actually figured his connections to black panthers would get him out, and really due to his celebrity status he barely got any ramifications for evading draft. He was a coward, he just wanted to use a BS excuse as to why he didn't go, even when Vietnamese had their own derogatory word for blacks, and hell, they even considered blacks as slow, lazy idiots who are only used for work. This is coming from an asian country far away from America. Guess blacks are looked down there too

[xIegionx]

@optimistsRUS And yellow men killed black men and called them nigger in their native tongue too, they even regarded blacks as a lazy race who's only good purpose was slavery. Vietnamese probably would've bought slaves too if they were rich enough.

[optimistsRUS]

@xIegionx

Did the Yellow men kill Black men (and call them nigger) who were living peacefully in their homes or did the Yellow men kill those Black men who went all the way across the world to kill those Yellow men? Your nonsense would have been funny if it wasn't so tragic as the death of 4 million innocent people would be.

[xIegionx]

@optimistsRUS The Yellow men thought they were killing work horses of white people, or Americans, and yes they did call them niggers. But you wouldn't know that since you probably don't know anything about vietnamese.

[optimistsRUS]

@xIegionx

What is your point? The Yellow Men were killing foreign invaders who came with guns, bombs and napalm and had no business in Yellow Men's country. You probably don't know anything about the Vietnam war and you are just trying to defend the indefensible. Ali was not the coward, cowards were those who were ordering to bomb other countries sitting in an Oval Office, cowards were Eisenhower, Kennedy, LBJ and other war criminals who bombed innocent people.

[optimistsRUS]

@xIegionx

If Nuremburg laws were applied, all of those cowards would be hanged for waging wars of aggression.

[xIegionx]

@optimistsRUS Good thing Nuremburg laws weren't applied in then huh? US is just too nice.

But it's okay, at least the whites and asians agreed the blacks were nothing but slave work horses.

[optimistsRUS]

@xIegionx

Based on your statements the world will agree that you are a racist douchebag whether you are White or Black or Shit color, there is no point wasting any more time with you.

[themegamunkey123]

@optimistsRUS more whites fought in vietnam than blacks dumbass

[optimistsRUS]

@themegamunkey123

And what does that prove? And how does that make me a dumbass? There were a lot more whites in America so obviously more whites would be there in military and more whites would likely be in Vietnam.

[SoulFlower69]

@themegamunkey123 Of course, Whites were the Majority of the population. You really sound ignorant, and Im not going 2 waste anymore words on U, but BOW DOWN b!tch & kiss the black man's ass sitting next 2 u b/c it took a BLACK MAN 2 PUBLICLY DENOUNE an ILLEGAL WAR b4 everyone STOOD UP and the SOLDIERS refused 2 fight B/C of the HUGE IMPACT Muhammad had on the MOVEMENT to END THE WAR IN VIETNAM! We need 2 take notes and end that FAKE SH!T in IRAQ & AFGHANISTAN 2!

[SoulFlower69]

@themegamunkey123 This country is using CHEMICAL WAR FARE (agent orange) on HUMAN LIFE who do not want the U.S. on their LAND. The U.S. is the 1st to SCREAM ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, yet they set up CAMP in other countries as IF they OWN that land and then RAPE the RESOURCES & KILL THE PPL, too dumb 2 realize that same AGENT ORANGE u use in WAR has also been CONSUMED by your OWN SERVICE MEN, who suffer from ILLNESSES related to AGENT ORANGE! When dis' b!tch burn..it will b SMOKING EMBERS!

[zucchiniesinbikinies]

He is a great man.

[FijneWIET]

Uncle Sam wanted an uncle Tom.. guess what, Ali wasn't one of those...

[xIegionx]

@FijneWIET Ali didn't want to go to Vietnam, not because it was "Immoral" or because No viet ever called him a nigger, it was because he was a coward. Which is fine, many people are afraid of war and were scared. They at least admit it and ran to the boarder. Ali probably knew, if he went to nam, he would've found out that they'd call him màu nâu sẫm or màu sôcôla (equivalent to Nigger), and he probably didn't want to go when they actually would have called him one there.

[FijneWIET]

@xIegionx ur funny... a coward, lol.

He didn't want to fight for his suppresor against other people who never mistreated him. It wasn't his fight!

All the bloody babykillers should have done the same. The USA deserved to lose that war/

[HateFenians]

whiteboy yanks should fuck off to Iraq and be killed!

[xIegionx]

Vietnamese did call blacks niggers in the war. Not in English, but in Vietnamese. ;)

What excuse does Ali have now? Oh right, he has brain damage.

[oudzuidNL]

@xIegionx i think you got brain damage

[xIegionx]

@oudzuidNL I think you need to go back to school to access your own growth of retardation.

[trackstar789]

@xIegionx The word "nigger" is english slang, there is no word for nigger in Vietnamese.

[xIegionx]

@trackstar789 " màu nâu sẫm, màu sôcôla cũng

Technically it means "negro" the color black, but can be used in their language in a slang such as "làm việc cực nhọc"

Which means "to work like a nigger"

[FijneWIET]

@xIegionx you're the one with a disfunctional brain dude

[3thebrudas]

o yh and does anybody kno if those pics and 1.47 and 1.53 are accualy what really happened? because of agent orange etc

[TTrigenio]

its by elvis war

[HateFenians]

Whats that song called?

[Dmasterman]

The thing is, Vietnamese did have derogatory word for blacks.

[esad71]

Indians or native Americans are yellow race ..Did they ever hated black man. Of course not..

[Dmasterman]

Viets did. :)

[sonofthedestroyer]

@esad71,

Many of the original Native Americans had dark skin. Many of them look paler today because white mans genetic influence.

[esad71]

I agree that Native Americans had genetic white influence in the past, but they had black influence too. The biggest fear of white man was coalition between native Americans and black slaves. Thats why native Americans always asked the black people -Why you serve white man?Some people believe that Regiment of black solders cached Geronimo and and his warriors alive. And relies them and gave them advice to escape to Mexico.

[Dmasterman]

Even though the yellow man still hated the black man.

oh well

[hiiamrick]

WILL MANKIND EVER LEARN?

[G3ner0]

its ALI BUMAYE* not pumahye :)

[Dmasterman]

LOL you idiot, Rambo is American. He was born in AZ.

Maybe you should actually watch the movie and do your research before you make a stupid fuck up.

LOL you're a fail.

[evilmelez]

sorry man but I have strong connections

[Dmasterman]

But not intelligent ones.

Rambo is an American. LMAO

[3thebrudas]

@Dmasterman Are u sure viets hated on blacks :s you seem to be sayin they had dergogatry words for them and hated on them but you dont actually say how..seems a bit vague to me, plus if u actually think about it, when ali wisely stated 'no viet cong has ever called me nigger' he meant as in , he had absoloutly nothing to do with these rebels thousands of miles away and dident see the point of foghting them..c.mon use ur head

[Dmasterman]

@3thebrudas No, use YOUR head. He basically said whites hated him and Viets never said anything bad about blacks. It's sad that you have to ask me for the answers when all you have to do is do research. So, since you're lazy I'll give you a few. màu nâu sẫm, màu sôcôla.

These titles were used to say "Nigger" in a derogatory meaning. It referred to Africans and having all their stereotypes go along with them. Example: làm việc cực nhọc It meant to "Work like a nigger".

;)

[FijneWIET]

@Dmasterman he said "no Vietcong ever called ME a nigger", and I'm sure that's true.

[Dmasterman]

@FijneWIET Him personally? Then there were a LOT of blacks that weren't called that either. But his phrase was used to say, why should blacks fight a war when people call us nigger? Even though there were people around the World calling him that, even Congs!

[9050James]

@Dmasterman fijneWIET is right

[xIegionx]

@9050James Dmasterman is right

[9050James]

@9050James thats what i meant, haha

[FijneWIET]

@Dmasterman yes of course him PERSONALLY... do you feel YOU represent every human being around the world with a white skin?

It's about an individual growing up in a racist society which fights an immoral war against other suppresed people... I suggest you listen to Bob Marley's Buffalo Soldier... it's about white people using black people to fight red people...

And please stop thinking that individuals represent a whole "race"... We're all one race: Homo sapiens sapiens

[Dmasterman]

@FijneWIET First off I'm not white. Second, how can you even say we're all "one race of homo sapiens" when you clearly claim there are differences skins and different wars going on with them? It's apparent you are more racist than others. My point; and to Ali's dismay, he would've found out that the Vietnamese were just as racist to him as the Whites. So his excuse is flawed.

[FijneWIET]

@Dmasterman sure there are differences in skin... and if people of a certain skin are treated inferior there -is- segregation. But that doesn't make it right, ppl don't have to go along with such primitive perceptions

[Dmasterman]

@FijneWIET Today as you can see people are all treated the same. Mind you some people of the same race treated there own as slaves or lowers. Just look at the caste system they had in the medieval days. Don't forget that Africans themselves had african slaves, and it was their leaders who sold africans to the whites. It was basically a deal.

[Dmasterman]

@FijneWIET I don't think it was neccessarily a "Oh they're black they have to be slaves" they were just a lower common who were slaves, to both Americans and African leaders.

[xIegionx]

@FijneWIET No he was merely a coward. So were others, but hey, at least they had guts to admit it. If he really didn't want to fight for the US, or it wasn't his fight because he was an American, he would've ran for the boarder, or left the Country. Instead, he just didn't want to fight, and wanted to suck up all the freedoms and prosperity in the Country. And you say the Americans should have lost? Perhaps, but Vietnam is slowly converting into what the US wanted them to be. Capitalists

[FijneWIET]

@xIegionx what do you mean "should have lost"???

They DID lose. And freedom? prosperity? They took his damn license away...

But talking to you is useless, it's like talking to Archie Bunker... we're on a completely different level. a waste of time and energy

[xIegionx]

@FijneWIET I'm basing it upon your judgment upon "If someone is evil they should lose lives", so I find it funny that you believe the US was evil and deserved to lose lives, then surely you believe that the Vietnamese did especially after all their war crimes and even AFTER that war, the wrongs they committed. Unless you're bias, then you can go on as being a discredited moron. The reason you don't argue is because you know you're wrong and cannot defeat logic. :)

[xIegionx]

@FijneWIET Mind you, if you hate "ruthless aggressors" surely you must've hated the Vietnamese who performed Genocides on Catholic vietnamese murdered, pillage and destroyed countless South Vietnamese, didn't give China's colonial properties back (which started yet another Vietnam war), invaded several other Countries, including Laos, Cambodia, and even waged war against the Hmong and even Thailand. So surely if the US deserved to lose, then the Vietnamese deserved their numerous deaths

[Dmasterman]

Nope, he was born in America. He's an American. :)

[jetdatboy]

ALI!!!!PUMAHYE!!!!