both are great composers, I like Jerry a little more because he was willing to experiment with arrangements and other instruments e.g. guitars and synthesizers and use it within a orchestral setting. Prime examples are First Blood and Rambo: First Blood Part II.
The answer here is probably a tie. I see some people suggest Williams feels classic whereas Goldsmith's stuff easily sucks them in; I feel the opposite, that Goldsmith is pretty classic stuff and great film-scoring whereas I just get sucked in with Williams's stuff, either film or concert.
There's no way on this Earth I could choose between the two. For the time they both composed, they were equal masters of the profession. Not a single composer in the industry during that time could hope to match the brilliance these two put into every note, every motion of the baton.
But now, the masters have all but stepped off the stage. No small wonder the film scoring industry, right now, is largely aimless.
A popular composer doesn´t mean to be the best composer. This is what happend with this two composers. John Williams is the best beacuse is the most popular (Steven Spielberg and George Lucas films) but nothing more. In the other hand we have J. Goldsmith streght action music (the best composer to create this kind of music), versatility,and rhythm. Goldsmith made all kind of music in a lot of genres, action, drama, fantastic, terror, western, thriller, animated mov. For me Goldsmith is the best
@oconnell7795 Jerry Goldsmith is also popular. John Williams has also written in a lot of genres; action, drama, fantasy, horror, western, thriller, animated. Your comment can easily be turned around, you have no basis.
Jerry Goldsmith all the way!!! John williams is amazing also but the music that Jerry Goldsmith created is so perfect i mean look at the music from The Shadow, Under Fire, First Blood, The Mummy, Legend, Alien etc..
when i listend to john william i think of the classic movies jaws, star wars, indiana jones, jurassic park etc... but with Goldsmith i get sucked right into the music you can feel whats happening and its really magical
John Williams is lucky that he got Steven Spielberg. Spieldberg doesn't let John Williams down, he is loyal to Williams that's why most of Williams scores are well known throughout the world. Goldsmith on the other hand, didn't get lucky. His scores got thrown out left and right in the 90's that's why he settled in scoring low grade B movies. If Goldsmith would only got a loyal director like Spielberg, he would certainly get the same measure of renown as Williams.
I'll go with Goldsmith, The Omen series were made by the satanic choral music of Goldsmith, and The First Contact main title theme was the best theme music of any film. Schindlers List however always brings a tear to my eye and is in itself a great addition to te classical repertoire. No on second thoughts why compare they are both great.
I think that John Williams is better that Jerry Golsmith. Too many people knows themes about Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Superman, and other music legends, and less people knows the music about Star Trek, Alien or The planet of apes for example. However, both are gorgeous!
As a kid, I was attracted to film scores because of Williams' work on Star Wars and Superman... but as time went by, it is clear that Goldsmith was the superior composer, an underappreciated master, his varied works are unsurpassed, he took chances and never seemed to fall into a comfort zone. Williams, while good, shows far fewer dimensions in his work.
Goldsmith on the other hand.... from Patton to Alien.... and so, so many others... a master at his craft, worthy of celebration.
exelente dos grandes de la musica pero prefiero un poco mas a John Williams ya k no solo a compuesto maravillas como el soundtrack de star wars si no trambien muchas otras mas que dejaron huella.
Hola. Tengo 21 años y soy de México. John Williams es mas sinfonico que Goldsmith, quien suele usar sintetizadores; en ese sentido Jerry es mas innovador, pero la orquesta siempre estara por encima de lo electronico. Aun asi, el tema central de Star Trek me gusta un poco mas que Star Wars ¡y eso que soy fan de Star Wars!.
John Williams and Jerry Goldsmith both are legends in their own right. But in their inner composer's circle may I like to add more of those people who are their equals:
Elmer Bernstein
Bernard Herrmann
Henry Mancini
Ennio Morricone
John Barry
Maurice Jarre
Max Steiner
They are among the best of the best and their works have been impressive enough to merit recogniton.
Besides these 2 big J's.. Don't forget the 3rd one too, that's James Horner... though he tends to "recycle" his scores pretty often. I would vote for John Williams as he has a lot of impact on some of the best film scores to date.. probably because he always gets the top jobs around especially (most prefered composer by many like Spielberg and Lucas).
Well, that's one of the reasons why Williams tends to get so much more attention because of the projects he was involved with. He had a solid relationship with Steven Spielberg who's films gained massive acceptance by the public and critics alike. Huge exposure for his work, while Goldsmith's projects weren't always very good or weren't as successful at the box office.
Yups.. Williams gets the most glitter and the with the kind of projects handed to him, those would most savoured by composers.. Star Wars, Superman, Indiana Jones, etc. On the other hand Goldsmith got the other "half".. like Star Trek, Supergirl, Alan Quartermain (Indiana Jones clone), etc..
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IMHO one of Goldsmith's best work is Ridley Scott's Legend.. (some may not agree with me on this though).
Ahhh, Star Trek came before Star Wars. There's nothing wrong with getting the Star Trek assignment. However, the Star Trek movies do owe a lot to the success of Star Wars.
got me thinking now , two massive orchestras side by side , on one side is john williams and the other jerry goldsmith battle of the composers match , who will win ?
Barry, Goldsmith, and Williams, these three men through the 60's 70's and 80's set a standard for film music that surely will never be topped, just think of all those incredible and memorable scores they created in what must be the golden age of film music, I think they brought orchestral movie soundtracks to the masses. Amazing talent.
Interesting comparison. While I've enjoyed both composers for years, Jerry has been consistently more "Original" than Williams. Although Williams can evoke subtleties of emotion that Goldmsith has barely touched on. But, if I had to decide between Star Wars and Star Trek the Motion Picture?
It would be Star Trek.
Star Wars is just to derivative of Holst's "The Planets". I also feel that Jerry's musical signature contains a lot of playful elements. Williams gets too dark and morose.
Both are brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. Goldsmith wins in a close one in my opinion. But that's not taking anything away from Williams. You can't go wrong with either of them.
They are both great but John Williams wins hands down... Star Wars trumps Star Trek soundtrack any day of the week and on top of that John Williams = Superman (AWESOME)!!!!!
that being said R.I.P. Goldsmith, the movie industry, the people who watch them and the hearts you touched will never be the same.
Both! John Williams is a classic, as is Star Wars which I've liked all my life. But now that I just got in to Star Trek, Goldsmith's theme is quite rousing and new! Don't ask me to choose between them. It is most illogical. ;)
Without the Klingon theme ( featured in this video ), we wouldn't have nearly the insight into their culture and psyche. I love John Williams, but Goldsmith really brings a story to life. And while Williams only seems to score the big movies and themes hes familiar with, Goldsmith runs the gambit and really explores his craft.
@Reclaimer77 You're begging the question. You've heard only the popular stuff from Williams because it's so popular, and cite that as your argument that he "only scores the big movies." Angela's Ashes, Stepmom, Sleepers, Amistad, The Patriot, Presumed Innocent.
I can't imagine what film music would be like without either Goldsmith or Williams. Both influenced so much of modern film scoring. Both had different styles of writing and it's true that Goldsmith scored too many poor movies, even if he did so superbly much of the time. I wouldn't want to hear Williams score Planet of the Apes, Patton, or Alien, etc. Likewise, Goldsmith woudn't have equalled Williams' scores for Spielberg and Lucas.
They both take a tie. I can't take one without the other!!! I absolutely LOVE John Williams AND Jerry Goldsmith. I am forever inspired by both of them, in my dreams and in real life. They are both the master in individual ways, of style and of inspirations.
Ow man I love both but I also prefer Jerry Goldsmith, he made so many great soundtrack movies, I love the Star Trek soundtrack, The Mummy'99, The first knight, 13º warrior, & many others...Jerry really was more versatile!
If you hear the soundtrack movies made by John Williams some parts of his music is always like the same, but for me his best soundtrack movies was from Close Encounters & ET.
I made some videos with Star Wars movies using Jerry Goldsmith songs he's my fave composer ever...
As someone else has already said, compared to the composers that have been coming up over the last few decades, these guys are in a league of their own, with the exception of each other. If I had to pick, it would be Goldsmith, however. He has been my favorite soundtrack composer for a while now. I rarely hear music in a film that is so good that I'm more captivated by it than the scene it is backing; and it's typically Goldsmith's pieces that have had that effect on me - more so than Williams'.
I too, like the work of both men. Both have played the other's works in their performances. I remember one where Goldsmith did the Star Wars theme and Williams did the Star Trek The Motion Picture/Next Generation theme. Both did a very good job of the others works in that one.
The problem is that both of these composers are truly masters of their craft. To complicate things, they both have different writing styles that cannot be compared. It would be like comparing the perfection that was Mozart to the fury and emotion of Beethoven.
One thing is for sure. It appears as if this class of composer is a dying breed. Todays composers, like Zimmer are good composers, but Goldsmith was a great composer, to the end. Check out First contact or Insurrection
I enjoy both composers soundtracks, both have their own respective stly, but I do prefer Jerry Goldsmith overall. He's composed a lot of great scores outside of the Star Trek Universe. "The Mummy", "Alien", and "Mulan" are some my favorites from him.
No, "The Mummy (1999)" was composed by Jerry Goldsmith. Alan Silvestri did the score for "The Mummy Returns (2001)". Do yourself a favor and look this information up.
Goldsmith didn't score the second film because he hated the first movie. He thought it was a piece of shit. I don't with that statement, but unfortunately he thought that.
Ok, i made a mistake, sorry.... the original soundtrack for the mummy was composed by Goldsmith, not Silvestry. Silvestry has composed the sountrack for the sequel. And i also liked.
I agree that Jerry Goldsmith was more versatile and innovative, but John Williams' music is more memorable to the general public, rather than just filmfans. I personally prefer Williams if I had to choose, but as a guy who grew up with the music from both of these maestros, it's really apples and oranges in the end. It's fun to debate though, so thanks for posting.
Goldsmith definitely has pushed the envelope of film score. Especially his innovative use of instruments has made a big impact on virtually every film composer today.
But I think Williams' scores seem to succeed in rendering the underlying emotion of each moment and making the characters and the story more accessible to the audience.
I guess music purists tend to go for Goldsmith for his innovation. But to me the first function of film score is to tell the story. So my take is: John Williams
Why should they be VS??? Star Wars was a hit, and made over 900 million world wide. And John Williams won a Oscar, Grammys, Golden Globe, and BAFTA, While Star Trek The Motion picture was a complete dull as dirt bullshit. BUT i did like Jerry's Music, it was kewl. BUT in real Life John And Jerry were very good friends.
I LOVE them both, most people would say john williams cause hes written more , and most people recognize star wars, i don't care. funny though, i remember that part when that music at the end was playing. It was when they were going into Vjer's domain type thing.
But your quetsion is very interrsting. You know, there were two Origines of Hollywood composers. Newmann (and Korngold)and Steiner Their teachers were Malher or Strauss. You know it when it's a music by one of thier students. Goldsmith's teacher was Castel Nuevo-Tedesco. If you like Goldsmith, you'll like him. Sorry for my faulty english, i'm French.
you know, it doesn't matter. I would'nt want to start a war over that. goldsmith is a god to mee. Well, Williams is good and that's all. No offence to anyone. I've played his music (ET, Indiana Jones...) but Golsmith? !!! Come on: alien,Star Trek Klingon attack, and so on. For me, he rules (after Herrmann, fo course..)
Why the "vs" BS? There doesn't need to be a winner. They are two remarkable talents who brought something wonderful into this life. Both masters who should be studied, respected and, of course, listened to.
Inside the genres he composed in, Jerry Goldsmith was the master. However, John Williams composed masterfully in so many different genres that Goldsmith never touched, I have to go with Williams for his versatility.
I admire both but I love Goldsmith for his versatility and vast number of films he wrote music for. Williams' scores for the most part sound the same, especially his Spielberg work. I think that Goldsmith didn't get the recognition he deserved in his lifetime. I greatly admired him for defending the integrity of his music. He had a history of disagreeing with his directors and as a consequence of not fearing experimentation, had many scores rejected. My favorite Goldsmith score is The Omen.
Truthfully, even though Williams hits heights and lows that Goldmsith never reached, I prefer Goldsmith because he could do eerie, beautiful things like the Dress Waltz from Legend or the Derelict theme from Alien.
I like them both. But my biggest favorit is John Williams. He is the one that actually made me found music. Thanks for him I know what I wanna do. Jerry Goldsmith didnt do that to me. But I do like hes scores. But I have to say that John is the one that oversees Jerry. But not by much. I would give higest grade to john. 5. Jerry gets 4.99. lol. I said they are close...
They put ligth to the dark eges of the 70's so they are an incomparable gain to the music in their stiles...for me an statue to them at the same heigth
Although I am a die hard John Williams fan, Jerry Goldsmith is another amazing composer who wrote the famous Star Trek theme, and much more. I still have to go with Williams however. Take for instance the theme to Schindler's List. On top of Schindler's List being a tragic movie, the theme is so compelling, you feel like you are in the concentration camp along with the others mourning for the others.
i love debates like this... it's like Ford vs. Chevy. Both these men have done outstanding work and I thoroughly enjoy listening to anything they created.
Alan Menken himself admitted that his scores tend to be song-driven meaning he composes not only scores but also songs; he's much preferred when you want to do musicals.
While some of the best scores could've been from Williams, I think overall Goldsmith did a more productive job. I mean, Goldsmith made scores for practically all my favorite movies.
This is not a fair test to determine who the best composer is. Jerry Goldsmith's greatest score is Star Trek:TMP, Star Wars is one of JW's greatest. Jw's has a huge collection of stellar scores, where as Jerry G only has a few truly outstanding ones. JW has Empire Strikes Back, Jurassic Park, the Indiana Jones films, Schindler's List...Jerry Goldsmith has a few other great scores, and they aren't nearly as good as Star Trek: TMP.
I wouldn't agree with that, and you did name Williams high profile films, and none of his lesser known scores.
Jerry Goldsmith did create some innovative music which I consider to be great. The Burbs, Hoosiers, Legend, Total Recall, and The Final Conflict are each unique, and can equally match up to the scores that you listed of Williams.
John Williams is overrated. He's not bad, but he's only a notch above mediocre. I'd say his fame comes largely from his luck with picking the right projects to work on.
That having been said, Goldsmith was a genius who came to be tragically underrated since a good chunk of the films he scored were crap.
Jerry's scores really play the dramatic and psychological subtexts of the films, bringing out the emotional core, whereas John scores most of his movies like they're cartoons.
Whatever..luck runs out after a while. If John Williams was "lucky" his luck would be long gone by now. People like his music because they can remember and enjoy it. End of Story.
John Williams is the best composer for films of all the times. I study cinema and I dedicate myself specially to the music of films and know many, many composers, John Williams is without a doubt, the best one.
Opinions do vary, and just in my own opinion I think Goldsmith is better. Nothing against Williams though, but I'd rather listen to a Goldsmith score.
these in the certain thing, the opinions can vary. On tastes there is nothing no written. (In fact one of my favorite BSO is lead by Goldsmith: 2001 an space oddesey) (Sorry my english :P)
john williams es el mejor compositor de películas que haya existido, estudio cine y me dedico especialmente a la música de películas y conozco muchos, muchos más compositores de los que hay actualmente, John Williams es sin duda, el mejor.
John Williams is the best composer for films of all the times. I study cinema and I dedicate myself specially to the music of films and know many, many composers, John Williams is without a doubt, the best one.
I said that Williams is composer contemporary par excellence, if you want that he mentions one previous one to him, would be its mentor, Franz Waxman. But the debate was not on others, but on Goldsmith and Williams
I dont think musicians own musicians. Some say Morricone would eat them all raw, but what is the point? Cant we just enjoy art "as is" instead of comparing people in a narrow-minded way?
Why doesn't anybody ever mentioned Elmer Bernstein? Seriously, I'm just 22 years old but I love Elmer Bernstein's works. His most famous works were:
The Great Escape
The Magnificent Seven
To Kill A Mockingbird
Ghostbusters
If you don't know this man, look up his works that I've listed. You'll be surprised at how versatile this guy is. Plus he's the senior of both Goldsmith and Williams!
I'm well aware of what this video is all about, I'm just referring to all the comments here... I see other composers like Danny Elfman and Hans Zimmer but they're all contemporary composers and John Williams and Jerry Goldsmith both belong to that circle with Elmer Bernstein and other Silver Age of Hollywood composers....
Most people tend to name most of the composers that are currently working. Same goes with actors, not everyone is going to know about Golden Age composers or Silver Age composers.
However i do find Williams overrated (slightly) due to the fact that his work gets so highly praised mostly due to how successful the films he scored were. Most people mention his Spielberg scores, and not much else aside from Superman, Star Wars, and Harry Potter.
That's because those are the ones that get box-office that's why they're highly popular. For me the scores that I like from John Williams have been his theme from the Patriot and Amistad.
As for the Golden Age and Silver Age composers I have to admit that I only recently discovered these wonderful gems coming from Herrmann, Korngold, Steiner and Bernstein West. Even though I like some works from the likes of Zimmer and Thomas Newman I think none can compare the symphonic splendor of classic composers.
Possibly, but that's generally because Williams works with the same directors time and again.
Williams score was one of the few things holding up Indiana Jones 4.
There are other big movie directors out there, with composers they use time and again - Williams is better than a large number of them - but he and Goldsmith are tied in my eyes, both capable of writing magnificent mutifaceted pieced of music with nuances so subtle you only hear them an the 12th listening.
John Williams Star Wars soundtrack has no equal, but... nothing he's done since Empire has enchanted me. When I saw the first harrypotter movie my ears hurt the music was so atonal, screechy, overwrought, phoned-in, generic... Same for starwars prequels. I just found myself wondering, "what happened to the guy who did Superman and Starwars and Close Encounters and Jaws?"
I have loved Jerry Goldsmith's scores since I was 10. But, John got me when I was 5-7 when I saw Star Wars & Superman, respectively. I'd have to say they are in a tie that cannot be broken. For me, 3rd place would go to John Barry.
if you want to hear how they overlap and borrow from each other, consider john's music where indiana jones hijacks the truck in Raiders, which is a total goldsmith sound - and then listen to jerry's suburban music at the very beginning of Poltergeist where you see the kids racing the radio-controlled cars, which sounds more williams than williams.
soy chileno,,me encantan las bandas sonoras,,,creo que son muy diferentes,,el uno del otro,,distintos tipos de peliculas,,,distintas emociones,,,lo que si puedo destacar de ambos,,la fibra para poder hacer,,y dar sentimiento a una accion,,dos genios,,,para disfrutar,,creo que los ganadores somos nosotros,,,en gozar esto...
they're both great, but also different and have different strengths. They are both versatile, but are strongest in different areas. John is the best at action/adventure, especially kids adventure like Harry Potter. Jerry wouldn't have done Potter as well. But John can't do horror nearly as well as Jerry. Jerry did stuff like Alien way better than anyone else could have...John would not have been that good on that movie. So, it's like comparing apples and oranges.
Significantly, Goldsmith and Williams were about the same age, both grew-up in LA, were both trained as concert pianists, and had the same composition teacher, Mario Castelnuovo-Tedesco.
I'll say Goldsmith for now since I'm listening to Total Recall at the moment. Ask me again in about an hour tho when I put in Jurassic Park, and I'll tell you John Williams.
I suppose that early on in their careers, Goldsmith was by far the more interesting composer. Somewhere around the early 70s Williams started getting as interesting, and then in the 80s I'd put them pretty much on equal footing. Over the years Williams has certainly achieved some HUGE music which has really affected the world at large more than Jerry's did. Jerry was pretty sincere though. Gotta love him!
I agree but I think one of the reasons why more people loved Williams music more was due to the fact that he scored better movies. Not taking anything away either composer but I mean how can you compare Superman and Supergirl? One movie was really good and the other was garbage.
I think the scores to Supergirl and Superman are both very good though.
I'd pick Williams due to the emotion and myth built into his Star Wars music. I know he's done much more than just Star Wars, but that's what fascinates me the most. It is few people who won't recognize the SW themes.
I like jerry goldsmiths The Mummy 1,2,and3
Godzilla5420 2 weeks ago
star trek nemesis and super man sound just alike
celeste821 3 months ago
Williams is better no contest....but Goldsmith is good
HandsSolo 10 months ago
both are great composers, I like Jerry a little more because he was willing to experiment with arrangements and other instruments e.g. guitars and synthesizers and use it within a orchestral setting. Prime examples are First Blood and Rambo: First Blood Part II.
someguy6481 10 months ago
If you put a gun to my head I'd have to go with Williams. But only if you put a gun, a big gun to my head. Outside of that, I couldn't choose.
RAIDERS58th 10 months ago
Both good, but Williams is better
ComposerWilliams 11 months ago
There is room for both Masters to hold this title on this planet.
Aeolis7 1 year ago
The answer here is probably a tie. I see some people suggest Williams feels classic whereas Goldsmith's stuff easily sucks them in; I feel the opposite, that Goldsmith is pretty classic stuff and great film-scoring whereas I just get sucked in with Williams's stuff, either film or concert.
thegoodgeneral 1 year ago
I go through phases. Right now I'm in my Goldsmith phase. Really, I love them both.
scottgilesmusic 1 year ago
Ennio Morricone...
lerdoveracruz 1 year ago
There's no way on this Earth I could choose between the two. For the time they both composed, they were equal masters of the profession. Not a single composer in the industry during that time could hope to match the brilliance these two put into every note, every motion of the baton.
But now, the masters have all but stepped off the stage. No small wonder the film scoring industry, right now, is largely aimless.
NeroBlack2200 1 year ago
If it's decided on Oscar wins, then JOHN WILLIAMS wins.
If it's decided on people who have been influenced by ones music, then Goldsmith wins.
Being we had the luck of having both composers compose some great music, then WE win!
janhammerrules 1 year ago
A popular composer doesn´t mean to be the best composer. This is what happend with this two composers. John Williams is the best beacuse is the most popular (Steven Spielberg and George Lucas films) but nothing more. In the other hand we have J. Goldsmith streght action music (the best composer to create this kind of music), versatility,and rhythm. Goldsmith made all kind of music in a lot of genres, action, drama, fantastic, terror, western, thriller, animated mov. For me Goldsmith is the best
oconnell7795 1 year ago
@oconnell7795 Jerry Goldsmith is also popular. John Williams has also written in a lot of genres; action, drama, fantasy, horror, western, thriller, animated. Your comment can easily be turned around, you have no basis.
thegoodgeneral 1 year ago
......And the winner is .......Bernard Herrmann.
cro499 1 year ago
Jerry Goldsmith all the way!!! John williams is amazing also but the music that Jerry Goldsmith created is so perfect i mean look at the music from The Shadow, Under Fire, First Blood, The Mummy, Legend, Alien etc..
when i listend to john william i think of the classic movies jaws, star wars, indiana jones, jurassic park etc... but with Goldsmith i get sucked right into the music you can feel whats happening and its really magical
Prdsay 1 year ago
Favorite John Williams would be Star Wars and Indiana Jones
Favorite Jerry Goldsmith would easily be Planet of the Apes and Star Trek TMP
generalcircle 1 year ago
JAMES HORNER!!! LOL
ForceMaximus84 1 year ago
I prefer Williams
DarthPlagueis1990 1 year ago
Both great, no doubt! Thanks for sharing.
beltor333 1 year ago
Both winners! I think First contact is my fave. Also love Goldsmith's ALIEN
TheSpazz13 2 years ago
John Williams is lucky that he got Steven Spielberg. Spieldberg doesn't let John Williams down, he is loyal to Williams that's why most of Williams scores are well known throughout the world. Goldsmith on the other hand, didn't get lucky. His scores got thrown out left and right in the 90's that's why he settled in scoring low grade B movies. If Goldsmith would only got a loyal director like Spielberg, he would certainly get the same measure of renown as Williams.
avatarnarutochuck 2 years ago
Goldsmith, especially for Klingon march
Salcay 2 years ago
Tough choice, but I'd go with John Williams
spartan257257 2 years ago
John Williams :D
ComposerJWilliams 2 years ago
They are Both Masters. They are both the Best.
lavaman2000 2 years ago 10
Hmmm...
Goldsmith: 5 of 11 Star Trek Movies, First Blood, Total Recall, Basic IInstinct, Air Force One, Star Trek: Voyager.
Williams: 6 Star Wars Movies, 4 Indiana Jones films, Jaws, Close Encounters, Superman, Born On The Fourth Of July, JFK, Harry Potter 1 & 2,
Both composers equally compelling, enduring, and truly legendary.
An even draw......no contest....it ends in a tie.
Retrofan 2 years ago 10
Jerry Goldsmith
elfmaniac2003 2 years ago
It's practically a tie for me ^^
edusuntrebor 2 years ago 4
goldsmith for "Chinatown"
Williams for "Towering inferno"
antonietto1 2 years ago
I'll go with Goldsmith, The Omen series were made by the satanic choral music of Goldsmith, and The First Contact main title theme was the best theme music of any film. Schindlers List however always brings a tear to my eye and is in itself a great addition to te classical repertoire. No on second thoughts why compare they are both great.
sagahammer 2 years ago
I think that John Williams is better that Jerry Golsmith. Too many people knows themes about Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Superman, and other music legends, and less people knows the music about Star Trek, Alien or The planet of apes for example. However, both are gorgeous!
yankmarine 2 years ago
As a kid, I was attracted to film scores because of Williams' work on Star Wars and Superman... but as time went by, it is clear that Goldsmith was the superior composer, an underappreciated master, his varied works are unsurpassed, he took chances and never seemed to fall into a comfort zone. Williams, while good, shows far fewer dimensions in his work.
Goldsmith on the other hand.... from Patton to Alien.... and so, so many others... a master at his craft, worthy of celebration.
RyderSpearmann 2 years ago 2
Both are amazing, I prefer the main theme of Star Trek and the Klingon Battle, but I love Williams' Imperial march.
ShittiestChannelOnYT 2 years ago
exelente dos grandes de la musica pero prefiero un poco mas a John Williams ya k no solo a compuesto maravillas como el soundtrack de star wars si no trambien muchas otras mas que dejaron huella.
Ricardocachike 2 years ago
Hola. Tengo 21 años y soy de México. John Williams es mas sinfonico que Goldsmith, quien suele usar sintetizadores; en ese sentido Jerry es mas innovador, pero la orquesta siempre estara por encima de lo electronico. Aun asi, el tema central de Star Trek me gusta un poco mas que Star Wars ¡y eso que soy fan de Star Wars!.
LUHECMOVIES 2 years ago
I've always liked Star Wars better than Star Trek. Although both scores have great themes, SW has the most identifiable ones.
And as of who is the better composer, I dare not to judge.
RichardKleiner 2 years ago 2
John Williams and Jerry Goldsmith both are legends in their own right. But in their inner composer's circle may I like to add more of those people who are their equals:
Elmer Bernstein
Bernard Herrmann
Henry Mancini
Ennio Morricone
John Barry
Maurice Jarre
Max Steiner
They are among the best of the best and their works have been impressive enough to merit recogniton.
avatarnarutochuck 2 years ago
Besides these 2 big J's.. Don't forget the 3rd one too, that's James Horner... though he tends to "recycle" his scores pretty often. I would vote for John Williams as he has a lot of impact on some of the best film scores to date.. probably because he always gets the top jobs around especially (most prefered composer by many like Spielberg and Lucas).
rehsab08 2 years ago
Well, that's one of the reasons why Williams tends to get so much more attention because of the projects he was involved with. He had a solid relationship with Steven Spielberg who's films gained massive acceptance by the public and critics alike. Huge exposure for his work, while Goldsmith's projects weren't always very good or weren't as successful at the box office.
krazie835 2 years ago
Yups.. Williams gets the most glitter and the with the kind of projects handed to him, those would most savoured by composers.. Star Wars, Superman, Indiana Jones, etc. On the other hand Goldsmith got the other "half".. like Star Trek, Supergirl, Alan Quartermain (Indiana Jones clone), etc..
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IMHO one of Goldsmith's best work is Ridley Scott's Legend.. (some may not agree with me on this though).
rehsab08 2 years ago
Ahhh, Star Trek came before Star Wars. There's nothing wrong with getting the Star Trek assignment. However, the Star Trek movies do owe a lot to the success of Star Wars.
krazie835 2 years ago
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rehsab08 2 years ago
got me thinking now , two massive orchestras side by side , on one side is john williams and the other jerry goldsmith battle of the composers match , who will win ?
jmm1233 2 years ago
Barry, Goldsmith, and Williams, these three men through the 60's 70's and 80's set a standard for film music that surely will never be topped, just think of all those incredible and memorable scores they created in what must be the golden age of film music, I think they brought orchestral movie soundtracks to the masses. Amazing talent.
cinebird 2 years ago
I like both
Wheeljack35 2 years ago
to be honest I like both of them but by a little I think jerry goldsmith is better because of the score for the omen
dane543 2 years ago
Nothing tops the Imerial March plus he did Superman and Jurassic Park along with Shindlers List
Wheeljack35 2 years ago
Interesting comparison. While I've enjoyed both composers for years, Jerry has been consistently more "Original" than Williams. Although Williams can evoke subtleties of emotion that Goldmsith has barely touched on. But, if I had to decide between Star Wars and Star Trek the Motion Picture?
It would be Star Trek.
Star Wars is just to derivative of Holst's "The Planets". I also feel that Jerry's musical signature contains a lot of playful elements. Williams gets too dark and morose.
visionsofvenus 2 years ago
jerry and john are the best of the best,
basil paledouris too
26030656 2 years ago
I just learned that Jerry Goldsmith died in 2004, and I must admit that a tear rolled down my cheek when I found out.
A great loss to film music. He's always been my favorite composer.
EelcoWH 2 years ago
Both are brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. Goldsmith wins in a close one in my opinion. But that's not taking anything away from Williams. You can't go wrong with either of them.
ApolloVI 2 years ago
They are both great but John Williams wins hands down... Star Wars trumps Star Trek soundtrack any day of the week and on top of that John Williams = Superman (AWESOME)!!!!!
that being said R.I.P. Goldsmith, the movie industry, the people who watch them and the hearts you touched will never be the same.
jaeaxp 2 years ago
Both! John Williams is a classic, as is Star Wars which I've liked all my life. But now that I just got in to Star Trek, Goldsmith's theme is quite rousing and new! Don't ask me to choose between them. It is most illogical. ;)
willabeth4ever 2 years ago
Without the Klingon theme ( featured in this video ), we wouldn't have nearly the insight into their culture and psyche. I love John Williams, but Goldsmith really brings a story to life. And while Williams only seems to score the big movies and themes hes familiar with, Goldsmith runs the gambit and really explores his craft.
Or should I say 'ran'. RIP Goldsmith.
Reclaimer77 2 years ago 2
@Reclaimer77 You're begging the question. You've heard only the popular stuff from Williams because it's so popular, and cite that as your argument that he "only scores the big movies." Angela's Ashes, Stepmom, Sleepers, Amistad, The Patriot, Presumed Innocent.
thegoodgeneral 1 year ago
i prefer John Williams :D !!
kosta299 2 years ago
SW VS ST
DeltaRc01x138 2 years ago
I can't imagine what film music would be like without either Goldsmith or Williams. Both influenced so much of modern film scoring. Both had different styles of writing and it's true that Goldsmith scored too many poor movies, even if he did so superbly much of the time. I wouldn't want to hear Williams score Planet of the Apes, Patton, or Alien, etc. Likewise, Goldsmith woudn't have equalled Williams' scores for Spielberg and Lucas.
dafmurray 2 years ago
They both take a tie. I can't take one without the other!!! I absolutely LOVE John Williams AND Jerry Goldsmith. I am forever inspired by both of them, in my dreams and in real life. They are both the master in individual ways, of style and of inspirations.
waddleduckie1 3 years ago
Why does one have to to better than the other? They are both masters of their craft. I'll take 'em both.
daboys1215 3 years ago 3
I like them both... it's really fascinating to find each doing "covers" of the others' more famous pieces.
I've heard John Williams' take on the ST:TMP/TNG theme... I wonder what Jerry Goldsmith would do with the Star Wars theme...
Ironcabbit 3 years ago
Both are masters, both give us all so much joy. Why all the smacktalk?
RubberIceCream 3 years ago
Excuse me my post below was for Marcosdandrea who wrote that: The mummy = Alan silvestry NOT GOLDSMITH
JediLuna 3 years ago
The Mummy = JERRY GOLDSMITH
The Mummy 2(!!)= Alan Silvestri
Massimiliano83 3 years ago
Ow man I love both but I also prefer Jerry Goldsmith, he made so many great soundtrack movies, I love the Star Trek soundtrack, The Mummy'99, The first knight, 13º warrior, & many others...Jerry really was more versatile!
If you hear the soundtrack movies made by John Williams some parts of his music is always like the same, but for me his best soundtrack movies was from Close Encounters & ET.
I made some videos with Star Wars movies using Jerry Goldsmith songs he's my fave composer ever...
JediLuna 3 years ago
As someone else has already said, compared to the composers that have been coming up over the last few decades, these guys are in a league of their own, with the exception of each other. If I had to pick, it would be Goldsmith, however. He has been my favorite soundtrack composer for a while now. I rarely hear music in a film that is so good that I'm more captivated by it than the scene it is backing; and it's typically Goldsmith's pieces that have had that effect on me - more so than Williams'.
GuitarLightning 3 years ago
I too, like the work of both men. Both have played the other's works in their performances. I remember one where Goldsmith did the Star Wars theme and Williams did the Star Trek The Motion Picture/Next Generation theme. Both did a very good job of the others works in that one.
chrismc410 3 years ago
The problem is that both of these composers are truly masters of their craft. To complicate things, they both have different writing styles that cannot be compared. It would be like comparing the perfection that was Mozart to the fury and emotion of Beethoven.
One thing is for sure. It appears as if this class of composer is a dying breed. Todays composers, like Zimmer are good composers, but Goldsmith was a great composer, to the end. Check out First contact or Insurrection
JW- Memoirs
stradman210 3 years ago
I enjoy both composers soundtracks, both have their own respective stly, but I do prefer Jerry Goldsmith overall. He's composed a lot of great scores outside of the Star Trek Universe. "The Mummy", "Alien", and "Mulan" are some my favorites from him.
HarperGT88 3 years ago 2
The mummy = Alan silvestry NOT GOLDSMITH
Marcosdandrea 3 years ago
No, "The Mummy (1999)" was composed by Jerry Goldsmith. Alan Silvestri did the score for "The Mummy Returns (2001)". Do yourself a favor and look this information up.
HarperGT88 3 years ago 2
The Mummy - Jerry Goldsmith
The Mummy Returns - Alan Silvestri
The Mummy 3 - Rob Cohen.
Goldsmith didn't score the second film because he hated the first movie. He thought it was a piece of shit. I don't with that statement, but unfortunately he thought that.
The sequels are pieces of crap though hehe.
krazie835 3 years ago
Ahh I meant Randy Edelman scored the third Mummy film.
I got confused with the director of the movie.
Randy Edelman scored The Mummy part 3.
krazie835 3 years ago
U're completely wrong The soundtrack of the first Mummy movie was made by JERRY GOLDSMITH.
& is one of my faves soundtracks too =)
JediLuna 3 years ago
Ok, i made a mistake, sorry.... the original soundtrack for the mummy was composed by Goldsmith, not Silvestry. Silvestry has composed the sountrack for the sequel. And i also liked.
Marcosdandrea 3 years ago
I love both of these two maestros !! Don't ask me to chose : I won't. :-))
yanndick 3 years ago
I agree that Jerry Goldsmith was more versatile and innovative, but John Williams' music is more memorable to the general public, rather than just filmfans. I personally prefer Williams if I had to choose, but as a guy who grew up with the music from both of these maestros, it's really apples and oranges in the end. It's fun to debate though, so thanks for posting.
ForceMaximus84 3 years ago 2
john williams ftw
lukimalle 3 years ago
Goldsmith definitely has pushed the envelope of film score. Especially his innovative use of instruments has made a big impact on virtually every film composer today.
But I think Williams' scores seem to succeed in rendering the underlying emotion of each moment and making the characters and the story more accessible to the audience.
I guess music purists tend to go for Goldsmith for his innovation. But to me the first function of film score is to tell the story. So my take is: John Williams
bwanasan 3 years ago 2
Why should they be VS??? Star Wars was a hit, and made over 900 million world wide. And John Williams won a Oscar, Grammys, Golden Globe, and BAFTA, While Star Trek The Motion picture was a complete dull as dirt bullshit. BUT i did like Jerry's Music, it was kewl. BUT in real Life John And Jerry were very good friends.
UFOSPACE1999 3 years ago
I LOVE them both, most people would say john williams cause hes written more , and most people recognize star wars, i don't care. funny though, i remember that part when that music at the end was playing. It was when they were going into Vjer's domain type thing.
arvenwoosley 3 years ago
I thinks They are both awesome, each one has his unique aspects. comparing them is a waste of time.
PS
I think they did about the same amount of work in movies. don't forget Williams was working for Goldsmith for sometime in the 60th or 70th
DrZoid99 3 years ago
thank you, I am quite young so i didn't know that.bytheway I didn't know the 60s and 70s were also known as the 60th and 70th lol jk
arvenwoosley 3 years ago
How 60s of me XD
DrZoid99 3 years ago
But your quetsion is very interrsting. You know, there were two Origines of Hollywood composers. Newmann (and Korngold)and Steiner Their teachers were Malher or Strauss. You know it when it's a music by one of thier students. Goldsmith's teacher was Castel Nuevo-Tedesco. If you like Goldsmith, you'll like him. Sorry for my faulty english, i'm French.
ericlouet44 3 years ago
Thank for your effort to write in English. I cannot speak or write French haha.
I prefer Goldsmith due to his versatility, and his willingness to experiment with his music.
krazie835 3 years ago
you know, it doesn't matter. I would'nt want to start a war over that. goldsmith is a god to mee. Well, Williams is good and that's all. No offence to anyone. I've played his music (ET, Indiana Jones...) but Golsmith? !!! Come on: alien,Star Trek Klingon attack, and so on. For me, he rules (after Herrmann, fo course..)
ericlouet44 3 years ago
I prefer both of them and
marinasedina3 3 years ago
And I prefer both.
sajrocks 3 years ago
Why the "vs" BS? There doesn't need to be a winner. They are two remarkable talents who brought something wonderful into this life. Both masters who should be studied, respected and, of course, listened to.
sajrocks 3 years ago
I never said there had to be a winner. I simply asked which composer do you prefer?
Personally I prefer the work of Jerry Goldsmith.
krazie835 3 years ago
Inside the genres he composed in, Jerry Goldsmith was the master. However, John Williams composed masterfully in so many different genres that Goldsmith never touched, I have to go with Williams for his versatility.
NOTYETUSEDNAME 3 years ago
I admire both but I love Goldsmith for his versatility and vast number of films he wrote music for. Williams' scores for the most part sound the same, especially his Spielberg work. I think that Goldsmith didn't get the recognition he deserved in his lifetime. I greatly admired him for defending the integrity of his music. He had a history of disagreeing with his directors and as a consequence of not fearing experimentation, had many scores rejected. My favorite Goldsmith score is The Omen.
JVipeRodriguez 3 years ago
Ooooh, toughie.
Truthfully, even though Williams hits heights and lows that Goldmsith never reached, I prefer Goldsmith because he could do eerie, beautiful things like the Dress Waltz from Legend or the Derelict theme from Alien.
jickerack 3 years ago
I like them both. But my biggest favorit is John Williams. He is the one that actually made me found music. Thanks for him I know what I wanna do. Jerry Goldsmith didnt do that to me. But I do like hes scores. But I have to say that John is the one that oversees Jerry. But not by much. I would give higest grade to john. 5. Jerry gets 4.99. lol. I said they are close...
jerryberglund 3 years ago
They put ligth to the dark eges of the 70's so they are an incomparable gain to the music in their stiles...for me an statue to them at the same heigth
melvincp 3 years ago
Although I am a die hard John Williams fan, Jerry Goldsmith is another amazing composer who wrote the famous Star Trek theme, and much more. I still have to go with Williams however. Take for instance the theme to Schindler's List. On top of Schindler's List being a tragic movie, the theme is so compelling, you feel like you are in the concentration camp along with the others mourning for the others.
TimtheEnchanter117 3 years ago 2
I think Williams can get a little samey in the same way as Hans Zimmer; I'd go with with Goldsmith.
ignorantpom 3 years ago
they are obviously 2 great composers. "who is better" ? I don't know... I think
Williams is a little more academic, but he's better for the themes.
But it's a matter of taste, too...
Emlomor 3 years ago
oh i love them! but the Williams is better I think..
maXfactor0 3 years ago
i love debates like this... it's like Ford vs. Chevy. Both these men have done outstanding work and I thoroughly enjoy listening to anything they created.
rhk59 3 years ago
I agree!
coachnic3 3 years ago
i preffer williams but i personaly feel that alan menken beets them both
smegskull 3 years ago
Alan Menken is another style! You cant compare him!
theflep 3 years ago
Alan Menken himself admitted that his scores tend to be song-driven meaning he composes not only scores but also songs; he's much preferred when you want to do musicals.
avatarnarutochuck 2 years ago
While some of the best scores could've been from Williams, I think overall Goldsmith did a more productive job. I mean, Goldsmith made scores for practically all my favorite movies.
yoda9999 3 years ago
@ yoda9999: I think it's the other way round. Williams wrote for E.T., Jurrassic Parc, Indiana Jones, Superman, HP, Star WArs, The Terminal, ...
SidAuge 3 years ago
None of those, except for SW, is a "favorite movie" :-)
yoda9999 3 years ago
This is not a fair test to determine who the best composer is. Jerry Goldsmith's greatest score is Star Trek:TMP, Star Wars is one of JW's greatest. Jw's has a huge collection of stellar scores, where as Jerry G only has a few truly outstanding ones. JW has Empire Strikes Back, Jurassic Park, the Indiana Jones films, Schindler's List...Jerry Goldsmith has a few other great scores, and they aren't nearly as good as Star Trek: TMP.
murdoch2555 3 years ago
I wouldn't agree with that, and you did name Williams high profile films, and none of his lesser known scores.
Jerry Goldsmith did create some innovative music which I consider to be great. The Burbs, Hoosiers, Legend, Total Recall, and The Final Conflict are each unique, and can equally match up to the scores that you listed of Williams.
krazie835 3 years ago
Are you kidding me? They both totally kick ass, but Williams is no doubt better these days though.
cavalierpictures 3 years ago
It does help that he never had to fight cancer during his 70s like Goldsmith did.
krazie835 3 years ago
John Williams...no contest
slipnslide15 3 years ago
its really hard to pick out the better of the two...they are in the same league as Alan silvestri and William Ross to me...
kenny6000 3 years ago
Problably due to my age ,mid 30;s I have to to JW, the stuff Williams composed from 1975 to 1982 changed everything.
yodasteveo 3 years ago
John Williams is overrated. He's not bad, but he's only a notch above mediocre. I'd say his fame comes largely from his luck with picking the right projects to work on.
That having been said, Goldsmith was a genius who came to be tragically underrated since a good chunk of the films he scored were crap.
Jerry's scores really play the dramatic and psychological subtexts of the films, bringing out the emotional core, whereas John scores most of his movies like they're cartoons.
musicdude1701 3 years ago
Whatever..luck runs out after a while. If John Williams was "lucky" his luck would be long gone by now. People like his music because they can remember and enjoy it. End of Story.
marinasedina3 3 years ago
I'd say good 'ol Steve Spielberg is luck that still hasn't run out.
musicdude1701 3 years ago
come on people, it´s just a matter of taste. they are both genious and outstanding film - composers, and they both have their own reputation.
although goldsmith is a smidgen better than williams... ;)
i´m only joking.
Lennyfred 3 years ago
Williams? Goldsmith? I would have to go with Goldsmith!! But Williams is a very close second!!
starrhon 3 years ago
John Williams is the best composer for films of all the times. I study cinema and I dedicate myself specially to the music of films and know many, many composers, John Williams is without a doubt, the best one.
Marcosdandrea 3 years ago
Opinions do vary, and just in my own opinion I think Goldsmith is better. Nothing against Williams though, but I'd rather listen to a Goldsmith score.
krazie835 3 years ago
these in the certain thing, the opinions can vary. On tastes there is nothing no written. (In fact one of my favorite BSO is lead by Goldsmith: 2001 an space oddesey) (Sorry my english :P)
Marcosdandrea 3 years ago
john williams es el mejor compositor de películas que haya existido, estudio cine y me dedico especialmente a la música de películas y conozco muchos, muchos más compositores de los que hay actualmente, John Williams es sin duda, el mejor.
Marcosdandrea 3 years ago
John Williams is the best composer for films of all the times. I study cinema and I dedicate myself specially to the music of films and know many, many composers, John Williams is without a doubt, the best one.
Marcosdandrea 3 years ago
ever heard of Ennio Morricone? Bernard Herrmann? Lalo Schifrin? even Basil Poledouris?
You like John Williams since he scored all the biggest blockbusters..
I'm not saying Williams is bad,he is among the best,but he is no Morricone or Herrmann.
AlexDeLarge90 3 years ago
Somehow I doubt you've seen many films older than what you see on the cinema and what is older than 2000?
Please,kid. You haven't heard nothing.
AlexDeLarge90 3 years ago
I said that Williams is composer contemporary par excellence, if you want that he mentions one previous one to him, would be its mentor, Franz Waxman. But the debate was not on others, but on Goldsmith and Williams
Marcosdandrea 3 years ago
I dont think musicians own musicians. Some say Morricone would eat them all raw, but what is the point? Cant we just enjoy art "as is" instead of comparing people in a narrow-minded way?
JerryMovies 3 years ago
Both are really good! I will have to say that John Williams is the best. The KING OF KINGS! But Jerry is still really good.
KOKPictures 3 years ago
I like them both. Nice blend of the 3 scores
woohooandrew 3 years ago
I like them both. Nice blend of the 3 scores
woohooandrew 3 years ago
1. Bernard Herrmann
2. Jerry Goldsmith
2. John Williams
End of story.
nostromo38 3 years ago
Jerry Goldsmith is the MOST prolific music composer for the screen and TV.
jsbach15 3 years ago
Hans Zimmer and Angelo Badalamenti owns them both
Hoschius 3 years ago
I would disagree.
krazie835 3 years ago
Why doesn't anybody ever mentioned Elmer Bernstein? Seriously, I'm just 22 years old but I love Elmer Bernstein's works. His most famous works were:
The Great Escape
The Magnificent Seven
To Kill A Mockingbird
Ghostbusters
If you don't know this man, look up his works that I've listed. You'll be surprised at how versatile this guy is. Plus he's the senior of both Goldsmith and Williams!
avatarnarutochuck 2 years ago
I like his very much as well, but this video is not about him, it's about Williams, and Goldsmith.
I do love The Magnificent Seven, To Kill A Mockingbird, The Ten Commandments, and don't forget about Heavy Metal.
krazie835 2 years ago
I'm well aware of what this video is all about, I'm just referring to all the comments here... I see other composers like Danny Elfman and Hans Zimmer but they're all contemporary composers and John Williams and Jerry Goldsmith both belong to that circle with Elmer Bernstein and other Silver Age of Hollywood composers....
avatarnarutochuck 2 years ago
Most people tend to name most of the composers that are currently working. Same goes with actors, not everyone is going to know about Golden Age composers or Silver Age composers.
However i do find Williams overrated (slightly) due to the fact that his work gets so highly praised mostly due to how successful the films he scored were. Most people mention his Spielberg scores, and not much else aside from Superman, Star Wars, and Harry Potter.
krazie835 2 years ago
That's because those are the ones that get box-office that's why they're highly popular. For me the scores that I like from John Williams have been his theme from the Patriot and Amistad.
avatarnarutochuck 2 years ago
As for the Golden Age and Silver Age composers I have to admit that I only recently discovered these wonderful gems coming from Herrmann, Korngold, Steiner and Bernstein West. Even though I like some works from the likes of Zimmer and Thomas Newman I think none can compare the symphonic splendor of classic composers.
avatarnarutochuck 2 years ago
Possibly, but that's generally because Williams works with the same directors time and again.
Williams score was one of the few things holding up Indiana Jones 4.
There are other big movie directors out there, with composers they use time and again - Williams is better than a large number of them - but he and Goldsmith are tied in my eyes, both capable of writing magnificent mutifaceted pieced of music with nuances so subtle you only hear them an the 12th listening.
pw8987 2 years ago
@avatarnarutochuck What's your age got to do with it? SERIOUSLY I WAS 6 YEARS-OLD WHEN I REALIZED DEBUSSY'S INFLUENCE. That means something?
thegoodgeneral 1 year ago
Ew. Ew. And more ew.
cygfrydd 3 years ago
such competitions are stupid! both are great!
plerimest 3 years ago
john williams allllll the way! hes done so many classics
MrPotatoTrooper 3 years ago 2
John Williams is good, Jerry is the best.
sonusaber 3 years ago
JOHN WILLIAMS
DarthMarc490 3 years ago
I'm sure by your videos you would pick Williams lol.
krazie835 3 years ago
lol
DarthMarc490 3 years ago
JOHN WILLIAMS
DarthMarc490 3 years ago 2
John Williams Star Wars soundtrack has no equal, but... nothing he's done since Empire has enchanted me. When I saw the first harrypotter movie my ears hurt the music was so atonal, screechy, overwrought, phoned-in, generic... Same for starwars prequels. I just found myself wondering, "what happened to the guy who did Superman and Starwars and Close Encounters and Jaws?"
prayfertrey 4 years ago
I couldn't agree more with this. Every artist had his/her prime time once or more, but not forever. Everything has evolved since then.
wjrmonkey 3 years ago
I have loved Jerry Goldsmith's scores since I was 10. But, John got me when I was 5-7 when I saw Star Wars & Superman, respectively. I'd have to say they are in a tie that cannot be broken. For me, 3rd place would go to John Barry.
SeriouslyMcMIllan 4 years ago
Good choice, another legend on a 3rd place.
rufftone 4 years ago
if you want to hear how they overlap and borrow from each other, consider john's music where indiana jones hijacks the truck in Raiders, which is a total goldsmith sound - and then listen to jerry's suburban music at the very beginning of Poltergeist where you see the kids racing the radio-controlled cars, which sounds more williams than williams.
leofilm 4 years ago
Jerry Goldsmith!
jefflpanther 4 years ago
It'a impossible to choose between the two!
Chiggs58th 4 years ago 2
Agreed
EnterpriseKnight 4 years ago 4
soy chileno,,me encantan las bandas sonoras,,,creo que son muy diferentes,,el uno del otro,,distintos tipos de peliculas,,,distintas emociones,,,lo que si puedo destacar de ambos,,la fibra para poder hacer,,y dar sentimiento a una accion,,dos genios,,,para disfrutar,,creo que los ganadores somos nosotros,,,en gozar esto...
diegoracingpower 4 years ago
Hey could you say that in English? Otherwise, CALLETE SU GRANDE YAPPER!!!!!!!!!!!
VirginiaPatriot 4 years ago
Hard to answer. I call it a Draw. Both of them are incredible Composers. Both have given us the themes to several of the greatest movies ever.
mattiusthalius 4 years ago 2
agreed matt
sgtpepper1138 4 years ago
I love the Star Trek music. My favorite of all. Especially 1st Contact and Insurrection.
Siskonx01 4 years ago
I have wondered that, were John Williams and Jerry Goldsmith good friends?
cybertang 4 years ago
Yes, John play piano on a few of the early Goldsmith scores.
jimmydm64 4 years ago
they're both great, but also different and have different strengths. They are both versatile, but are strongest in different areas. John is the best at action/adventure, especially kids adventure like Harry Potter. Jerry wouldn't have done Potter as well. But John can't do horror nearly as well as Jerry. Jerry did stuff like Alien way better than anyone else could have...John would not have been that good on that movie. So, it's like comparing apples and oranges.
complainr 4 years ago
Significantly, Goldsmith and Williams were about the same age, both grew-up in LA, were both trained as concert pianists, and had the same composition teacher, Mario Castelnuovo-Tedesco.
PizzaGolf2003 4 years ago
Star Trek Themes > Star Wars Themes
Everything else Goldsmith did > Everything else Williams did.
Nuclearman2 4 years ago 2
I see!
TAKA1701D 4 years ago
Agree. Goldsmith's music is epic!
Nuker1337 4 years ago
I'll say Goldsmith for now since I'm listening to Total Recall at the moment. Ask me again in about an hour tho when I put in Jurassic Park, and I'll tell you John Williams.
jaywolfenstien 4 years ago
I suppose that early on in their careers, Goldsmith was by far the more interesting composer. Somewhere around the early 70s Williams started getting as interesting, and then in the 80s I'd put them pretty much on equal footing. Over the years Williams has certainly achieved some HUGE music which has really affected the world at large more than Jerry's did. Jerry was pretty sincere though. Gotta love him!
alex200784 4 years ago
I agree but I think one of the reasons why more people loved Williams music more was due to the fact that he scored better movies. Not taking anything away either composer but I mean how can you compare Superman and Supergirl? One movie was really good and the other was garbage.
I think the scores to Supergirl and Superman are both very good though.
krazie835 4 years ago
I'd pick Williams due to the emotion and myth built into his Star Wars music. I know he's done much more than just Star Wars, but that's what fascinates me the most. It is few people who won't recognize the SW themes.
byf43 4 years ago