3/3 Psychology experiment on adolescent conformity

[leanonme1]

AWSOME!!!

[heistsy]

Nolan would make an excellent Nazi

[dogon3]

Glad to have seen the 3 parts of the experiment. It may speak volumes on how much even adults conform if they haven't been given a good foundation to perceiving their own self worth.

Loved the last minute and a half of part 3.

[HolobytePictures]

This is a great experiment. Bathroom scene was a funny add in! SWEET!

[damian635]

I guess that Fag in the bathroom was supposed to be a joke.

[stuff5514]

he looks old

[TheSirJecht]

I've seen this, basically the boy knows he's right but is unsure because no one else thinks he is, he conforms to the group so he doesn't feel wrong about being right, outcasted, etc. This is how many people function, and saying that "oh it was game, it's not srs" only proves that if the boy was so willing to give into a group for a silly game then he would probably give in to nearly anything with enough doubt.

[hypnotisedbabe]

Really, really interesting :)

[grumbles]

@hypnotisedbabe thank you =]

[devol264]

you must teach me to do this. im subscribing.

[Blankname101]

Not bad.This was interesting.

[Crazee108]

notice at around 1:30... nolan is self-assuring himself by caressing his chest. interesting.

[Hythloday71]

I've heard / seen this a few times..... and whilst totally buying into the concept that people are weak willed schmucks..... I question whether this is a good test. The reason is, its so obviously a game. So its a simple choice on how to play that game, yes it is conformity to a degree, but when weighing up how ur gonna play this gm. A strong factor about how seriously to take it is the fact that you realise it is just a game........ I like the electric shock version better...... milgram is it ?

[grumbles]

@Hythloday71 yes, milgram's shock experiments are definitely monumental and incredibly important, but they measure different things. milgram studied how individuals obey the "authority" of one other person with perceived over them (his inspiration was "how could the nazi guards do such horrible things in the concentration camps?", and we could today think of things like abu gharib), whereas asch looked at how individuals feel persuaded by the actions of large numbers of equal peers

[grumbles]

@Hythloday71 I am a little confused as to what you mean by the "game", and playing the game. I think I understand what you're saying, but can you elaborate on this a bit?

[super6plx]

@grumbles he doesn't take it seriously, but if you were to introduce punishment for failure (ie: shock paddles) then he'd be more willing to get the right answer as there's immediate proof that he's right. with this, there's no proof that he's right so he has to conform with the other two to make sure he doesn't look like an idiot, but if there was proof that he's right (the shock paddles shocking everyone but him) then he doesn't feel so stupid because he knows he's right and they were wrong

[thegoonist]

@grumbles i think what hythloday71 meant was that it had nothing really much at stake. the subject could just conform even if he wouldnt have in other situations where the stakes were higher. so it is an effective experiment to an extent. it does not prove that people conform in all situations, just in this classroom setting without much at stake/at risk.

[delgado4652]

where the confederates with Nolan all from the same school? Cuz they all seemed to know each other and I think Nolan may have picked up on it and figured there was some kind of trick to it. That's honestly what I would do now cuz if a group of people are going with one answer and they seem to already know each other while I'm the stranger, it would only seem right to go along with this weird experiment haha

[Serpico261]

god damnit this is just fascinating!!

[goingonpc]

this was an interesting experiment, but what would the person answer if each person hadn't answered the same?

[lordtains]

what?

if everyone was giving a different anwser?

he wouldve given the correct one obviously

[MegaCorrupted]

great experimentations, and yes it was preferable to stay on the same gender

grumbles is right, i'd even say there are already too many factors. i'd be interested in seeing more people of the same age and same school being experimented (maybe even classmates) to compare the results.

[grumbles]

thank you for the comments. my original plan was to do that, to have students in the public schools system from 7th, 9th, and 11th grades and compare the results. but, having limited time, and not going through the channels of making anything "official" with the school system, the best i could do was to grab a few kids here and there and work with it, haha

[Serpico261]

Pure fascination!!! man i had 1 semesester pschology but i never thought it could be that interessting

i just say wow

[MegaCorrupted]

does the education given by a school affect much the development of personality?

why the most conformist student is the one coming from a private school?

whats surprising me the most is that that kid is couscious of giving the wrong answer from the beginning to the end, and at the beginning he doesnt even hesitate! all the other subjects either give the right answer or at least have a thought "is there something going wrong with me or the other guys?"

[MegaCorrupted]

its only on the long run that he starts to think for himself and when you ask if they have questions, he does nervous movements with his arm like if he was going to raise his hand to say something like in a classroom. it seems that at this stage he is rewarding in his head the test and is perfectly conscious of having given the wrong answers just to follow the others

he still doesnt do a thing about it!

what i'd like to know is if he learnt to act that way in his school

[Tranksdofuturo]

This is a litle sad...

[ProtestSpp]

It is a very important concept to understand.

[Avishagi]

i like it

[iamonlinew]

This is great but I have to say I was disappointed that all of your subjects were the same gender. I would have been interested to see how gender affects the likelihood of one conforming.

[grumbles]

that is a good point. i think i thought about doing that, but decided that i didn't want to introduce too many factors and decided that in the interest of time and stuff, i'd stick to one and leave gender out of the picture. but i agree, it would be interesting to look at gender differences in a different, similar project.

[grumbles]

also, just adding, i think you'd need a larger subject pool in order to come to a conclusion. like, you couldn't say "because this one guy conformed and this one girl didn't, therefore boys are more likely to conform". i originally wanted to do "statistical data" but realized i didn't have enough subjects so decided to look at them individually instead of making generalizations

[oraculuminosus]

Awsome job man!

Now let ME make a suggestion 2 U. Next time try to do more of that kind of comments like:

"...they are doing wrong, not me... "

Because I think most people just find the video cool but not really get this things, U know?!

Cheers from Brasil.