Obama and Gates

[xanbex]

Mr. McGovern is a great patriot...a true American HERO> Thank you sir!

[ben5017]

The real issue about the CIA and NSA is how they have done so many terrible things in foreign nations causing a backlash against America and it's citizens. Why is it that many of the the people in history we find to be terrorists, out secret government trained and supplied them. If one manufactures terrorists, what would you call the organization that manufactures terrorists through the last 50 years?

It's time to come clean with the budget of the secret government and put them on a leash!

[zzzbbb123456]

Keep your friend close, your enemy closer.

Plus having a republican as min of defens, obama can blame gates if anything goes wrong.

And it throws the wrightwing media of having a republican.

[Martintfre]

Gates like the Clinton's must have a pile of dirt on Obama.

[januhnuhnuh]

you idiot. every color has committed genocide. Hell, China is as bad as any white culture. You are an ignorant racist retard.

[CrazyKraut20]

don't listen to him he's only tireing to spread hate toward blacks because he is a white supremacist cunt

[Pocketass666]

I've also confirmed he loves chicken

[real1abcda]

id give money to real news if paul jay wasnt a freak that does not give a fuck about anything  GET ANGER THERAPY PAUL

[CrazyKraut20]

keep on blabbing we both know what you are (white) and i won't answer you anymore caus you're wasteing my time

[CrazyKraut20]

HAHAHA your comments are getting more pointless as you try to avoid to give me a direct answer by spreading ridiculess bullshit

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I AM WHITE AN I LIKE TO SQUANDER BLACKS AND ARABS THAT'S WHY I MAKE SPELLING MISTAKES ON PURPOSE

FU WHITE MAN I LOVE YOU

[CrazyKraut20]

stop acting as if you are black your sharade is not fooling anyone you are probably one of those guys who pretends to be something he hates but since you can't attack what u hate openly because no one would listen you use the anonymity of the internet to pretend you are a some despisable person who appears to be black

bravo you have achived nothing and no one gives a shit :´( booho

[YuriKenobi]

Why isn't the second segment out yet? :(

[Pocketass666]

damn this idiot is easy to troll

[Pocketass666]

silence, I need you on the cotton fields!

[WTCnucleardemolition]

The FBI uses polygraphs to eliminate suspects.

google: we got nuked on 9/11

[Pocketass666]

ColonialismIsEvil thinks caps is cruise control for cool... it isnt

dumbass :D

P.S How wass the chicken?

[MooseOfReason]

Hahaha, "Garbage-Off"

[patsagainstrats]

Sounds like this loser is jealous that he's been relagated to giving meaningless interviews on unwatchable leftist YT news channels. Go hit the lynx, grandpa, no one cares what you think.

BTW, has there ever been a McGovern in the history of the world who has ever had a pair between his legs?

[tokotokotoko3]

You've got a point or some argument too, besides meaningless insults? If not, just keep your comments to yourself.

[mcalien24]

ya pats...id be pissed off too and try to denegrate someone for no longer being a player in the Military Industrial Complex. that is id be pissed off too if id been wrong about everything for the past 8 years like you have.

[ttj1776]

McGovern calls Gates an "unprincipled chameleon"

[Pocketass666]

sit down and enjoy sum watermellon and chickkenz

[WhoRonPaul]

colonistdude- on another point of Fact-

Between 1808 and 1860, the West Africa Squadron a branch of the British government seized approximately 1,600 slave ships and freed 150,000 Africans. Action was also taken against African leaders who refused to agree to British treaties to outlaw the trade, for example against "the usurping King of Lagos", deposed in 1851. Anti-slavery treaties were signed with over 50 African rulers.

your hatred will cease when you have been fully educated.

[WhoRonPaul]

colonistdude- your ranting.

systematic exploitation of labor can be traced back to the earliest records, such as the Code of Hammurabi (ca. 1760 BC- Middle East Laws), which refers to it as an established institution.

your "whitey" hatered has no basis.

[YuriKenobi]

Wow.

Well unless you'er some kind of racist I'm really on your side. I'm just commenting on your ridiculous all-caps replies, not their content.

[DennyMclain2008]

yawn

[YuriKenobi]

Dear ColonialismIsEvil

STOP WRITING IN CAPS, IT IS HURTING MY EYES.

[scipio2009]

Some of the opinions that I see in these comments are ridiculous!

Now, I'm definitely in the camp that believes that we should have never gone into Iraq in the first place.

Still, with the situation being what I remember it to be in 2006, before the surge, I can't fathom to think how people could actually believe that and immediate pullout would be the best option.

How many more countless people would've die, with an "energized" terrorist militia and a de-stabilized central government?

[scipio2009]

You pull out in 2006 and, in my opinion, you'd probably see a full-on civil war, with both adversaries armed to the teeth, and a population of near 30 million people in harm's way.

The anti-war movement can rally against Bush as much as they want about the Iraq War, which I still feel was an awful decision to begin with.

I just don't see how any of them can sleep well at night, while they wanted to, in essence, leave the Iraqi's "with an empty bucket and their house burning down".

[Rundstedt1]

But it was not the "surge" that stabilized the situation, it was the Sunni awakening which was already happening, and the US paying off militia groups with money and more guns. We are even arming groups that we previously said were linked to bin Ladan. Again the US is arming the people who wish to cause harm, just like when the US sponsored the terrorists and warlords in Afganistan to undermine the legitamate socialist Govt. Wait for the Blowback.

[scipio2009]

I agree, the Sunni awakening probably did have a major role, in the stabilization of Iraq, giving us a situation where we'll be able to leave a stable Iraq, in 2009-2010. There's really not much to argue there.

My point is that, even with the awakening happening, without the troop support of the surge, stabilization would not have happened, and we'd probably be seeing a full on civil war, with both sides armed to the teeth, and us looking to Iran to step in and quell the situation.

[scipio2009]

And to the whole soviet Afghanistan point, the US was in a "war" with the Soviets, and sought to undermine them at every opportunity, and the Soviets were keen to do the same.

In hindsight, was it the best idea to support the religious-fundamentalist Taliban? Not really.

Blowback is coming, no matter what, since we've opened this can of worms.

As crazy and "evil" as Saddam was, at least Iraq was stable, secular, and an effective buffer between Iran and the rest of the Middle East.

[Rundstedt1]

I think we basically agree here, although I tend to think we might have accomplished our objectives with out the surge. Also perhaps we didn't really stop the Civil war but just delayed it, and gave the sides more arms in the process. I suppose there are no good answers anymore. We've woven so many webs over the years its not surprising that the whole area is a tangle. Thank You.

[Isaac707]

I don't want to completely believe the guy being interviewed. His story seems palpable, but it also seems slightly like a pile of dog shit.

[SubmarinerAndroid]

plausible

[ferrozm]

this is the kind of stuff that I like from Real News. Real News ought to stick with just foreign policy analysis because they don't know anything about economics neither do their guest analysts.

[PersonalJesus348]

or maybe you don't. Which is fine. I won't let you near the US Economy as long as I live.

[ferrozm]

keynsian economics is a failure. I may not know as much but the austrians and free market economist know a lot more. I wouldn't touch the economy because I believe in economic freedom where the govt doesn't steal money from people.

[Rundstedt1]

Socialism is a workers democracy on the road to communism. Shanklinmike is a typical rightist trying to distort the truth. His position is the real hypocrisy; it can only result in an oligarchy worse than now. A totally deregulated capitalist world. Welcome to Social-Darwinism at its finest. The rich and fortunate will form kingdoms and the rest will starve or do their bidding.

[Underpants158]

I think "feudal capitalism" would be a good name for it.

[FreakishDonQuixote]

"Shanklinmike is a typical rightist trying to distort the truth."

You're wrong, he's just stupid and uneducated. Look at his definition of socialism.

[Rundstedt1]

So agreed, I've had run-ins with him before. Libertarians are the worst sort of rightist, they hide their fascism with talk of "freedom" and "Markets". But what they offer is a market on freedom, ann that's not freedom.

[Rundstedt1]

Re: shanklinmike and his self promotion.

Don't listen to him.

His Libertarian crap would make this much worse. Having no, or minimal state, while leaving capitalist accumulation and the means of production in private hands would result in a greater concentration of wealth and an elite more powerful than even now. Meanwhile all the regulatory agencies would disappear. It is a corporate wet dream.

Libertarian/Market-anarchist = Stateless-Neocon

[MuslimGhost]

Allah is the greatest, and Islam is the light and the solution to all of the world's problems. Islam will give you the strength to withstand the new world order's war on humanity and their laughable and delusional attempt to wage war upon God Himself... the NISA estimate has stated that most likely the Islamic caliphate will have been restablished by 2020... make sure you're on the right side by that time

[CHUCKtheFED]

as a true aspect of the light that is

I was on the right side before thought

ever crossed my pineal gland...

do not attempt to fence

my universe

not now

not in 2020

not in your dreams

keep your crayons

and your lines to yourself

[PersonalJesus348]

who let you back on here

[WhoRonPaul]

jeeny is the gofiest person i have ever met on this planet earth

[WhoRonPaul]

Colon- you need bit more history lol

[shanklinmike]

I got a question how does libertarian-socialism differ from libertarianism? Socialism by definition is government monopoly on productive resources and libertarianism requires a lack of coercive force. I fully understand libertarian ideals but what is libertarian-SOCIALISM? Isn't that like saying Capitalism-Communism? Socialism requires force, libertarianism is the lack of force. To me its like anarcho-syndicalism with unions, its hypocritical to me! Any help would be great!

[temujoe]

A just asked for a christmas gift.. a donation to The Real News =)

[t4705mb6]

Thats a lie. Carter was working for the NWO & the CFR and was in bed with the central bankers.

Obama supporters can expect HUGE shocks coming from him.

Robert Gates was the prime engineer in the forming of Al Qaeda for the CIA. Now, with Obama, he'll be in charge of the Pentagon.

This is all coming from the British. The queen is flexing her muscle by shutting down the Canadian government. Britain & the US quietly has made a nuclear deal with India

in an attempt to start a war with Pakistan.

[shanklinmike]

Long time no see! How have things been, (outside the political shambles)? Here are some great new videos I have!

Don't be a stranger!

watch?v=LvOUML5f7Z8

watch?v=ZNn727-0Bpo

watch?v=GwMH8CJM9WA

watch?v=_HF9rVurDR8

[t4705mb6]

Thanks. Things are terrible but I expect them to get very much worse very soon. You?

Thanks for the links. Will do.

[ShiekYerbooty]

Maybe Obama's keeping Gates on so that when Obama announces we're going to maintain a huge presence in Iraq, Obama can blame it on the last administration

[P3coTrain]

um yeah, dumbed down dittohead mobs! look i really dont know the point of your rant!

[MementoExpose]

this guy is great

[Etimos]

Of course Obama agrees the surge worked. He doesn't want to embarrass bush. Same reason he wont pursue war crimes prosecution on people who have CLEARLY committed war crimes. The people responsible for getting him in power dont want him to. No, not the voters. John McCain was a joke candidate. you really think McCain was the best candidate the republicans could put up, out of those thirteen? Everyone wanted Ron Paul, but the votes were manipulated to bring up McCain. Obama was supposed to win.

[borntobelegend]

terrorists are succeeding and that makes them rebels aka freedom fighters?

[blackiron60]

Chameleons, flatterers, yes-men, brown-nosers, all the same thing. Machiavelli talked about them centuries ago and emphasized what parasites they are. Bad leaders such as Bush are slaves to them and Obama looks to be on track to the same fate. Never trust anyone who always tells you what you want to hear.

[pokerslut530]

That's the biggest problem with our elections and being forced to choose between the "lesser of evils".  IMO, that clearly describes every election since I've been alive - I'm 27.

[livinginlux]

I have yet to be impressed with an Obama cabinet appointment.

[Pedroskini]

Yeah...he should appoint you.

[magoterran]

Is the reporter having breathing problems or something?

[GirlyVoice]

One of the best realnews reports I have seen.

[kcsammi]

good god, the more I know, the less I want to know.......but yet, want to know. So scarey!

[velcroFathoms]

Robert Gates was in on silencing 9/11 truth within texas A&M

[WhoRonPaul]

nationalize banks

nationalize prisons

socialize medicine

socialize education

these four institutions are not a part of the free market. they are prerequisite and supportive systems and cannot be supported by the free market.

[poop121]

werd

[Aanthanur]

WhoRonPaul

Nes also should not be in free Market.

News is not a bussines, it is a service.

[WhoRonPaul]

Aanthanur- good comment- for example State (or Nationalized) TV in Venezuela, where it used to be that private, anti-government media had a monopoly on TV. Thats less true now. I wouldnt say its the best system. I would prefer to see all sides being objective. But what you have instead is state TV, which is pro-government, and then you have private media, which is much larger than state media, which is against the government. Between the two you can get both sides of the story.

[benjis007]

there is also public access. Democratically funded by the people. If you don't like one public access station, then you don't contribute, but it is all voluntary. Once you "federalize" or nationalize something, everyone has to pay whether they like it or agree with it or not. Not to mention that all competition is driven out of that field because there is only one provider.

[benjis007]

the problem is not the free market, it is corporate stranglehold over the market and over democracy. The news should be locally funded by those who care about the news. not some bureaucrat in an office in washington who has no idea what is happening in your part of the world. It should be public access, not federally regulated. That is the nazi state = facism. Mussolini said that facism was the perfect blending of corporate power and state power. IE: what we have now in the US

[P3coTrain]

but what if the banks and corporations own the government?

[WhoRonPaul]

P3-good point. maybe it's time to ask current and former US allies to help us out

does the US have any allies?

[P3coTrain]

US government no! US people yes! but help must come from your neck of the woods. US is often regarded as the land of the free home of the brave. I don't see government in that phrase at all. like it or not the US is the worlds last hope for true government of and by the people. lead and the world will follow!

[upabittoolate]

EXACTLY

[benjis007]

then you have facism. In our case, we have a transition period where we have the military industrial complex, the health care industrial complex/lobby, the financial industrial complex, and they are all able to throw their money into politics and sway decision makers. Even if the government federalized certain "markets", they would still simply hand the job to the highest bidding company. Who else? You'd have rupert murdoch running the national news, and the head of CDC running medicine...no tnx

[WhoRonPaul]

benji- Mexico is a fascist state right next door to the US and doesnt seem to mind- also try to understand that nationalizing just means that instead of say Ted Turner owning FOX news, you would, along with your 200 million neighbors. I don;t see whats wrong with that because its not like there is a limit to how many channels you can have or anything.

[ShiekYerbooty]

as it is the Pentagon has been caught paying retired officers to appear on the news as " experts " while they promote the government agenda, could you really trust this government to run anything ?

[benjis007]

my concern, since we have a state and corporate merger in our politics, is that when we "nationalize" a market, all that the govt will do is contract the job of managing that market out to the highest bidder, not give it to all americans. Then we'd have a govt backed ted turner running all the channels the way he sees fit. I see you have much more foolish fools to debate than me right now...peace

[WhoRonPaul]

ben- VERY GOOD point! totally on target- but i still wouldn't abandon the idea entirely because i feel that with proper legal safeguards and other VERY intense restrictions placed at the ground level, Conservative (not liberal) nationalizing or socializing, at least short term, should be on the table. VERY cautiously do i even mention the above things. peace man

[5starrater1]

that would only ever work if the government was genuinely for the people by the people. I wonder if that has ever been the case?

Hospitals make people sick

Religion destroys spirituality

education closes down minds.

Something is very wrong - the human heart condition. We are all too self interested.

[benjis007]

a better plan, if these are prerequisite, and you feel that everyone needs to pay for it, would be to make them local, not national. In earlier days of our republic, our localities (up to the state level) handled these things. this is better because those in charge would actually be a member of the community affected by the services. At the federal level, there is no incentive built in to make employees honest, efficient, and there is no demand for innovation (competition at least betweenstates)

[WhoRonPaul]

ben- you keep making very good points- i have to go read up on this more..

[stevenaudet]

Noam Chomsky! You're a GOD among men! I'm not worthy of your knowledge of politics, ethics and linguistics. I incline myself in front of your intellectual superiority. :D