Funny point about this special piece. By some analysis of the schoenbergian atonal system you can find a mistake he did by composing this score. Indeed at around 2:55 min, the bass line creates some arpeggios it kind of repeat 3 times. The first of those got a natural G written into it which creates a perfect 5th in the arpeggio itself going against the will of Schoenberg to create a system outside the tonality.
@Requiem77777 No no no. You've misunderstood the meaning of atonality. Nowhere is it written that particular intervals are to be avoided. Listen to the opening of Op. 19 no. 2: ostensibly, major thirds. Except they're not, because of the context in which they're written. Adorno was right to suggest that one of the great beauties of Expressionism was that it contained within it the possibility of intervals that sounded tonal - fragments of the old system that it had eroded.
this is atonal music and worth studying from an academic point of view. but it generates no emotion in the listener and is harsh in its sound. It's good music, but not pleasurable and melodic
Well, studying those pieces from "an academic point of view" without listening to the music would be absolutely boring for me. Yes, it is good music - it is melodic (just look: melodies everywhere! who said melodies or phrases have to be tonal?) and it generates a lot of emotion, at least in me. If you are not focusing on the "missing" tonality but follow the music, the lines, variations, contrasts, you might enjoy the piece without having to analyze a single note of it. :)
@drsolace Yes it is a sad fact. Somehow they feel entitled and full of rights and demands, like the world evolves around their little personalities and we have to take note, but when you react, they are incensed and call you "touchy".
@bartje11 You really should rethink your reaction, here. Taking someone else's work without giving them credit for it is called plagiarism and gets people in a lot of trouble. After all the 'work' you've done posting this video, I don't see how hard it would be to mention who wrote the program notes. Perhaps you only redistribute things by other people and aren't bothered by it, but it seems to me that at least you could try not to be nasty about it when people ask nicely who wrote them...
@pianonoise88 hahaha you didnt ask nicely at all! thats what the problem is.The way you commented OK? Get it? Well anyways here is the link:
colleges.org/techcenter/music/modules/op11/op11pages/signif1.html you need to add the regular prefixes because otherwise You Tube won't allow me to post the address.
@bartje11 I guess we have different ideas about what 'nicely' means. I was under the impression that the original poster was being polite since he didn't use phrases like 'they feel entitled and (think) the world revolves around them" etc, and since you did, that you were being rather touchy about it. I'm really not trying to be that mean, but plagiarism is serious, and you should know that before you end up publishing something or writing a paper for a class, say, and finding out the hard way.
@bartje11 Anyhow, I will tell you what I liked about your response. I asked for something, and you provided the link, even if you thought I wasn't being very nice. Overlooking other people's rudeness is sometimes necessary for good relations, I find. Don't you? I hope you post that information under the notes themselves. That would fix that problem. Cite sources=no plagiarism. :-)
why is this music played in such a romantic way?
locobeis 6 months ago
@locobeis Cause Schönberg was romantic
hea1901 5 months ago
beautiful piece, really enjoyed it...
Keytaster 9 months ago in playlist MWWB2Playlist
Sounds like parts of the soundtrack from a movie call "The Game"
Come to think of it, this reminds me of bits from a lot of movie soundtracks.
eleninamyers 9 months ago
Funny point about this special piece. By some analysis of the schoenbergian atonal system you can find a mistake he did by composing this score. Indeed at around 2:55 min, the bass line creates some arpeggios it kind of repeat 3 times. The first of those got a natural G written into it which creates a perfect 5th in the arpeggio itself going against the will of Schoenberg to create a system outside the tonality.
Requiem77777 10 months ago
@Requiem77777 No no no. You've misunderstood the meaning of atonality. Nowhere is it written that particular intervals are to be avoided. Listen to the opening of Op. 19 no. 2: ostensibly, major thirds. Except they're not, because of the context in which they're written. Adorno was right to suggest that one of the great beauties of Expressionism was that it contained within it the possibility of intervals that sounded tonal - fragments of the old system that it had eroded.
1984ekul 9 months ago
this is atonal music and worth studying from an academic point of view. but it generates no emotion in the listener and is harsh in its sound. It's good music, but not pleasurable and melodic
johannsebastienbach 10 months ago
@johannsebastienbach
Well, studying those pieces from "an academic point of view" without listening to the music would be absolutely boring for me. Yes, it is good music - it is melodic (just look: melodies everywhere! who said melodies or phrases have to be tonal?) and it generates a lot of emotion, at least in me. If you are not focusing on the "missing" tonality but follow the music, the lines, variations, contrasts, you might enjoy the piece without having to analyze a single note of it. :)
ShartanX 9 months ago
i find this really beautiful
andrewbautista23 11 months ago
...schläft...
Zarazene 1 year ago
Seems likely that it's from the album booklet.
IronHorse4642 1 year ago
pretty sure the information given, "The historical and musical significance....", is part of some book, you should reference it
m8nirvana8m 2 years ago 2
@m8nirvana8m OK. got the performance. Got the score. Got the information. But now I also have to reference it. Why don't you do some research?
bartje11 5 months ago
@bartje11 People on the Internet are never satisfied with what they have.
drsolace 5 months ago
@drsolace Yes it is a sad fact. Somehow they feel entitled and full of rights and demands, like the world evolves around their little personalities and we have to take note, but when you react, they are incensed and call you "touchy".
bartje11 5 months ago
@bartje11 You really should rethink your reaction, here. Taking someone else's work without giving them credit for it is called plagiarism and gets people in a lot of trouble. After all the 'work' you've done posting this video, I don't see how hard it would be to mention who wrote the program notes. Perhaps you only redistribute things by other people and aren't bothered by it, but it seems to me that at least you could try not to be nasty about it when people ask nicely who wrote them...
pianonoise88 5 months ago
@pianonoise88 hahaha you didnt ask nicely at all! thats what the problem is.The way you commented OK? Get it? Well anyways here is the link:
colleges.org/techcenter/music/modules/op11/op11pages/signif1.html you need to add the regular prefixes because otherwise You Tube won't allow me to post the address.
bartje11 5 months ago
@bartje11 I guess we have different ideas about what 'nicely' means. I was under the impression that the original poster was being polite since he didn't use phrases like 'they feel entitled and (think) the world revolves around them" etc, and since you did, that you were being rather touchy about it. I'm really not trying to be that mean, but plagiarism is serious, and you should know that before you end up publishing something or writing a paper for a class, say, and finding out the hard way.
pianonoise88 5 months ago
@bartje11 Anyhow, I will tell you what I liked about your response. I asked for something, and you provided the link, even if you thought I wasn't being very nice. Overlooking other people's rudeness is sometimes necessary for good relations, I find. Don't you? I hope you post that information under the notes themselves. That would fix that problem. Cite sources=no plagiarism. :-)
pianonoise88 5 months ago