Any emotion brings with it emotional associations, which is a good thing ultimately, sadness brings sad thoughts, anger angry thoughts, love loving thoughts, happiness happy thoughts--etc. "Because things change" yes they do. It can be hard to realize that sometimes.
The truth does not lie in logic. This video makes no real points and dressed up to be intellectualism when it is not deep of profound. The truth lies in how you feel about something. It is how we sort opinion from fact.
Everyone understands gravity douche-bag. Nobody is talking about the laws of physics. You just sound like a douche bag. I don't expect someone who can't even come up with a decent argument to understand what i am talking about.
@KaitlynnLane Thanks again for the ad-hom. Thanks also for just dismissing my contentions to your claim, without even any evidence against them, and now running away. That is fine, but I thought maybe we could have a mature discussion. Were if you say that I am stupid that you clarify your point, so that even someone as stupid as me can understand.
Also I did not repeat what you said, I showed that evidence and logic based reasoning trumps feelings anyday.
@NathanWubs I agree with you. I did run away and was not discussing it like a mature adult. Usually i don't engage in online banter but i was in a foul mood that night and did not like being challenged right then, and actually it is an important topic in a big way, so it does require an adult discussion.
and though i still stand behind my logic, i did not offer you evidence and i also insulted you, so than you for not stooping to the low level i was functioning in because your response, and have seen so much of this on youtube, could have been an off the wall verbal bashing based on no grounds but an expression of inner anger, which i must admit i was somewhat doing.
Being alive can be intensely pleasurable and rewarding. My personal favorite part of living is my relationship with my amazing wife. I am sure it can and will be painful at times but it is very much worth it.
You know you see a LOT of cynicism around the net over insincere and lightly thrown about bleeding-heart sentiments.. thank you for marking this RARE occasion of the opposite.
I hope everybody watch your videos, Im gonna share all your great, really educative and thought provoking videos with all my friends in social networking sites..... Great job!!!
I've not yet overcome fear of death. But I now try to regard it as the reverse of birth: You haven't been here for billions of years. Then suddenly, a very small fraction of the matter in the universe clutters together to form you. If you look at it as if rewinding a tape, you'll be here for a split second, be un-born and then never exist again. That's like death, only death will be "forward" through time. We know what it's like to not exist. It's what we do the most.
@FHomeBrew i have a hard time understanding why death sud b feared as long as i die with honour i care not for its gona happen 1day if theres nothing after this i wont know about it anyway thats why we celt went to battle nude no fear maybe that helps if ur worryed about not existing
Another great video explaining in simple terms important ideas of profound significance. Your work, QualiaSoup and TheraminTrees, has become a highly esteemed source of reflection and inspiration in my life. Thank you.
Honesty beautiful video. For A long Time I've been continually depressed by my pessimistic certainty of future events and myself. I've never actually been able to believe in the prospect of things around me changing and It has really inhibited me in a lot of ways. I've never been able to detach myself from my social emotional biases and see the future purely as something important for my own natural experience. Watching your video made me UNDERSTAND that change does occur.
@clonehigh123 P.S This video Is really cool. The metaphors used to illustrate the process of changes were awesome... and excuse my personal rant but thanks for the video.
For atheists the life amounts to nothing. Hopeless despair and suffering. When happiness turns to misery your means of recovery are met with an inevitable sadness.
For the billions of people suffering, God is their means of inevitable happiness. A means to an End.
@MrGrandDragon By believing in God people are kept imprisoned. There's no need for them to fight for a better future on this earth because they have got the promise of heaven.
I know the meaning of my life doesn't constitute of dreaming of a place where I might go after I die. The meaning of my life is to work to make this world a little bit better place. INSTEAD of praying for those billions, why not actually do something (anything) about it.
If I am living in an amoral universe, I don't see why I should make the world a better place. If I am to choose my morals, then why not choose selfish ones; ones unblemished by stupidity, ignorance, and illogical notions. Why should I have the slightest sympathetic emotion for a bunch of hairless, sentimental/cruel, fallible, often incredibly stupid/insane, sexually indulging ape creatures??? If the worlds in their hands, then its doomed. Thats if they don't kill themselves first.
@finalfantasy8911 Morality is such a complex issue.. And I wouldn't like to go into that, but unlike you (apparently), I don't buy the "human nature is cruel etc." crap. There are people who do cruel things, though that doesn't make them evil. I'm confused. In whose hands is this world if not in our? God's? So why did he make us like this, why is this world a cruel place etc. till infinity. And doesn't the Bible say the worlds doomed anyway...
All I can say to your response is that I never claimed that humans are "evil". Thats all I can say because... I'M CONFUSED. Why do you assume that I'm religious?
@finalfantasy8911 Because we have evolved as social animals. People who feel that without god, they cannot be moral, are called psychopaths. They have a problem in their brain and cannot feel empathy, in the same way others do.
If we need god to tell us it's wrong to kill people, how on earth did the jews, as a race, get as far as Mount Sinai to receive the tablets?
@MrGrandDragon No, I'm talking about the fact that they're asleep even when they're awake. The second part is interesting though I didn't mean that. Let's say I'm going to skip over all the disturbing parts in the bible to the good ones... why don't people follow them? Don't kill? Love your enemies? What about Jesus? I wasn't talking about intention, but acts. I could pray every day and sure that would make ME feel better about myself, even though I hadn't really done anything.
Correct. With god/"higher"power out of the picture; all thats left is an amoral, oblivious universe. Its a free-for-all for everyone, do whatever you want and it truly doesn't matter because all morals are EQUAL and life has no meaning; thus you are worthless and that cannot be changed. All an atheist can do is delude or distract oneself. But thats if your born with an adequete brain. Born severely mentally handicap? Then your one shot at life is ruined. Why? Just because.
@MrGrandDragon Did you watch this video? As it seems you did not. This video is about why people live without god. But here you attribute things to atheist that are not inherently true.
So why are you making the strawman? That is obviously not true if you watched this video. And now because I talked to you. My life amounts to a lot of things and I could list them all, but it would be a list over 300 reasons.
The answer, of course, differs from person to person and, as far as I've seen, religious people come up with their own reasons just as atheists do. Asking the question "Why live? implies one has considered the alternative, otherwise, why would one even have the thought? It seems to me that, if you can't come up with any other answer, belief that a god existing gives life meaning might be the only thing keeping someone from total despair. Maybe that's why some theists seem to be so negative.
@YY4Me133 Well no, the question: "why live?", can also just come from the fact that we are mortal. Faced with our mortality we can come to the question. Why do we live if life is so short? This questions can of course be shortened too. "Why live?"
@NathanWubs I guess we could ask "why" anything, but what's the point? There is no "why." Life evolved. It has no intrinsic "meaning" or "purpose." We can give our own lives whatever "meaning" or "purpose" we choose.
That IS a wonderful thing; and at the same time a SERIOUS problem. One can choose a purpose, a goal, but theres a possibility that won't come to fulfillment; no matter how hard you try to achieve it. One can be a day away from that goal, then get shot to death at a drive-by shooting. Thats the kind of unfortunate chaos that this unguided universe has to offer us. Not to mention cancer/other sickness passed down from past generations. Everyones life is 90% up to "luck".
@finalfantasy8911 Of course you could be shot and killed before you finished your goal or your project, but it was never about the goal or the project, but about the process. The enjoyment of pursuing the goal is the real goal. Living in the moment while you work towards a goal. or work on a project. is what matters, nothing else. Everything you have, every breath you take is borrowed. You take nothing with you when you die. Enjoy your moments.
What a monstrous existance. To believe & live for a goal for which you may or may not achieve, due to 90% of it being controlled by random chance. Could you really be so "optimistic" if your life was unexpectedly coming to an end? These life issues are one of the reasons why religion exists; life is horrendous(most of the time) & unfair.
@finalfantasy8911 Again, life is about the adventure, the journey. So what if it’s full of chances and random events? Do you know exactly how a new video game will play out? Do you always expect to get your way? Does everything have to be planned and perfect for you? What a boring adventure that would be if you always got what you wanted. You sound like a child. Are you a child?
How does it not? If one is framed for a crime & gets unjustly sent to jail for life while the criminal gets to run free, how will justice be surved when all evidence is destroyed by the criminal?
@finalfantasy8911 Justice wouldn't be served in that case. But who says life has to be fair? We might want it to be fair. We might want there to be some kind of overall justice (or karma, as some call it) but that doesn't mean their is.
Wanting something to be true, doesn't make it so and imagining there to be some kind of meta-justice, stops us seeking justice here.
If we had thought like that 100 years ago, we wouldn't have started looking for things like fingerprints/DNA to get past that.
@finalfantasy8911 But we can work towards it. However imagining that there is some kind of justice when our cells die, stops us working towards it.
And anyway, According to your eternal justice, some murderer who converts on his death bed can get to heaven, but the people he murdered (who may have lived decent lives helping others, but just never believed in god) have to burn in hell forever.
According to your god, it;s not your actions that get you to heaven, it's purely being a believer.
According to my eternal justice?! I never said anything about being in a religious faction. Why do you illogically assume that I believe in the bible? I'll tell you this: I don't. Surprising? The humans work & look toward a delusionary dream; a fantasy that can never be achieved. World peace? Perfect Justice? A society where EVERYONE can enjoy a happy life?A world where ALL achieve enlightenment in a meaningless world? Never. Not as long as all men have free will of mind.
@finalfantasy8911 Apologies if I mistook you as a religious fanatic. You made the same false assumption that they do: That without a god there can be no morality.
Are you really saying you don't want to work towards such things as justice? enlightenment?
You show all the signs of someone who cannot empathise with others. In an animal such as us, that has evolved to be a social creature, such lack of empathy is dysfunctional.
Its not that without god theres no morality; without OBJECTIVE morality there is no real morality. The fabric of the universe itself dooms humans into only concocting a morality; morality that reality itself defines as invalid. The only valid morality is none at all. That means that you & I can do WHATEVER we want with no Hell to fear. Whatever we want at all! Hehe, also apathy is indeed dysfunctional...for the feeble at heart. The mind is indeed an...interesting tool.
@ellenaor life is certainly objectively purposeless, but with god (if you mean the god of christianity or islam etc) your purpose will be to worship this god for eternity, that would be worse than absolute purposeless
@ketchkade "Well the point of all the "absurd" and frankly impossible ways of keeping your self from sinning, is to keep you looking for what it is that will bring you salvation." - Your claim is that the bible was intentionally filled with garbage to make it more challenging for people to find the truth
Even tho whoever wrote it this way would have known that millions of people would have gotten the wrong end of the stick ensuring that they go to hell - thats fukd up bro
I am severely disabled and have brain damage, and live with constant pain. I had believed myself stupid but recently people encouraged me and I am now studying and realising I can be more than I am. This video is wonderful and just fits with with how my life has changed in the past six months. I aspire to be more than I am and am learning how beautiful life can be. Thank you for a lovely video.
Since your videos contain many beautiful words that I'm usually willing to add to my personal English dict., I wanted to ask you to add transcriptions to the video descriptions as well. That way, there would be no need to do the same work (writing, done by you; and re-writing\copying, done by those, who are interested in saving the text messages for some purpose) many times by different people.
Also, making two questions one: are there videos, addressing self-learning and comprehension problems?
Pizza, women, football, women, hooters wings, women, beer, vegas, the DR, motorcycles, women, cool ass atheist videos, debates, women, science, political banter, reading, movies, kicking it with friends, women, comedy shows, palm trees, snow, beaches-boardwalks, gambling, cruises, gambling on cruises, meeting new people especially women, BJJ, weightlifting, Joe Rogan's Podcast, UFC, Paquiao-Mayweather, women are some of my reasons to live without a god..Your reasons are cool too.
If I don't die, things can also change for the worse. I can lose the capacity to end my life by choice, and things can get even worse still. There is no limit to the degree of suffering that is possible. The problem is not Atheism. It is that choice, meaning, our drives, are all illusion. The whole thing is a fraud. If you're doing well great. If you can get better and do well great. But if your chances are low, and the illusions don't hold up for you. The compromise of continuing is a poor one.
When the beauty of nature is finally destroyed by all the idiots who think the Earth can't be changed by humans because God said so in some scripture somewhere then I don't think there will be any more reason to live for anyone.
False belief in an afterlife allows greedy people to justify the damage they do and it will be the Earth's downfall.
@J27Delight If you have told one lie, that makes you a liar. If you have stolen one thing, that makes you a thief. JESUS said; if you look at a person with lust, you commit adultery in your heart! Ever used GOD's name in vain; then you are a blasphemer and can't enter GOD's kingdom! Rev 21v8 says; "All liars will have their part in the lake of fire!" The bible says; No thief or adulterer will enter heaven! You broke GOD's laws; but JESUS paid your fine! Repent & trust the Savior!
Ten reasons to live without god. 1 Pie 2 Roller coasters 3 Autumn leaves 4 Puppies 5 The Noir film festivals 6 J.S. Bach 7 Cocoa 8 Teasing Kid Brothers 9 Skipping stones 10 Freedom of thought
@Majoofi How many petting sessions of a puppy cost a cancer victim dying a slow miserable death? Life is an exclusively negative preposition and whilst one might perceive some ephemeral contrived value in own life, imposition of new life or in most cases attempts to thwart other sentient agencies to end their own is adamantly unjustifiable.
beautifully composed, strong powerful message, very optimistic view on life and that seems to be what most at the moment need to upturn this nose-diving human condition.
beautifully composed, strong powerful message, very optimistic view on life and that seems to be what most at the moment need to upturn this nose-diving human condition.
@kaiyno I have an explanation for the cause of the universe. It is rational, and it's not "for no reason" like you claim. And you don't need God to have a reason for life.
@kaiyno You do not need God to have a good life. If you don't think that's true, you need evidence to support your claim. See the video I favorited about atheist and religious life.
@kaiyno You CAN get something from nothing and I have a mathematical explanation. I do have arguments for myself. I don't have nothing. I know someone who can't give any arguments other than, "don't take a risk of going to hell".
@AtheismIsCorrect LMAO, can you stop thinking about Hell first? thank you. Once you describe your mathematical explanation, can you please tell me what good in the end does your existance and everyone elses bring to this universe if according to you life is caused with no point to it?..
@kaiyno Nothing exists. There are zero objects, therefore, zero exists. The number zero exists, is ONE number, therefore one exists. Goes with the number line whih you have no proof cannot turn into a string. There is more but I can't explain in 500 characters.
While we are here, we might as well enjoy life. If we mess up and have a bad one, we're done. You really don't understand that God is unneeded for morality. In the end, it is great we had fun while we were here.
@AtheismIsCorrect LMAO morality and ethics are under the causality law as well, therefore everything was designed and depends on the Mastermind: God. And what's the point according to you, to enjoy life and have fun while we're here??...
@kaiyno I've already answered. We have no before-life, and there is no after-life (at least as far as I know) so in order to have the best time, we must have fun during-life. Again, watch the video I favorited. You don't need God for morality. You are just convinced you HAVE to have God for morality unless I can absolutely 100% prove that false. That is wrong.
It's like asking, what is the point of Christmas without Santa Clause?
@AtheismIsCorrect Wasn't talking about ethics or morality, you brought that up. I was talking about God being the only RATIONAL cause for the existance and origin of the universe, and you changed the topic because you have this: N O T H I N G, with this empty argument you will always have fallacy in your arguments, if you don't focus on causality then you're not focusing on the rational aspect, you're just going in circles around the question mark with no argument in your hands.
@kaiyno "and you changed the topic because you have this: N O T H I N G"
You need to learn something. Scientists have come up with an explanation for the origin of the universe without a God, and it is supported by evidence. Go to wikipedia and look up "Planck epoch". I do have something, and you're only denying it so you can win.
@AtheismIsCorrect The Planck epoch says nothing about the cause of the universe, it just talks about the time of the universe from zero to approximately 10−43 seconds (Planck time). There's nothing on what could of caused the Planck epoch and the universe itself, so nice try :]
@theteacher010 Point of human intelligent life is to LOVE, and when you love God then you can worship him, God doesn't want people that don't have love in their hearts, that's why you wouldn't worship someone if you don't really love that person. Love is the main point in life, because nothing can stop love.
@asasasarap "What crappy propaganda to suppord blunt materialism and global financial technological dictatorship with its pimps while on the same time turning the planet into a shithole with mafias ruling everything.Long live magical thinking scumbags."
@asasasarap "It's not about your more or less education.It's about your cocky attitude and the dogma you represent."
so all this time you NEVER actually had anything better than what physics teaches us and you were just trying to "win the debate" with mere force of attitude?
Surely, you're at least smart enough to note the grand failure in your intent. And if you can't, I weep for the biological strain that resulted in you.
This was extremely beautiful and for some reason the music really evoked strong emotions in me and I welled up at some parts. Nothing has done this to me in quite some time, so I'm pretty amazed. Thank you.
@TheSmackerlacker As I understand it, people usually can base their motivation to continue on with their lives on various reasoning (from the basic self-preservation instinct to achieving more corporeal\intellectual pleasure and further to personal ethical\philosophical frames). And in cases, when a religion has been used as a basement for such reasoning, man can find himself in serious life-threatening crisis if he starts to doubt his religious believes, that were once intact and solid.
assuming the universe existed just because it always has, wich is already refuted and there still is no cause known to produce the effect of the entire universe. nothing, causing an entire universe to be created is irrelevant and has no place in real science. but assuming this there still is no reasons for any thing, no justifications, just explanations of why things happen through natural laws. you only give justifications that were created by our own morals. such circular reasoning is irelavnt
wow this just doesnt give a relevant reason to live. who chose what was bleak or exciting? who set the standards for life? almost every athiest believes life is nothing but a series of chemical reactions. so what is life then? how do we distinguish mere complexity from specified complexity? the line must be blurred because both are said to be random. but you say natural selectionand mutation help survival, for what purpose? and why isnt tis suported by empirical evidence? U FAIL.
@Silkenos that is irrelevant to what i have said but i am a christian, i only looked at this through your own beliefs. i actually respect the ones who stick to the their is no reason for life than i do with this. if you believe everything is random and has no purpose than stick to your beliefs instead of being a hypocrite. thats why this type of bull is nothing but an attempt to discredit relevant point. why do we want to live? chemical reactions happen for no purpose? why so synchronized?
@samster817 Looking at life technically--yes, it's just a cluster of millions of reactions that give you all the life functions, which has evolved in a course of 4 billion years, hence the complexity. It's our advanced brain that tries to seek a meaning to life when there really isn't, it's just the way humans work, we are curious, which has showed quite beneficial during our development as species (exploration, communication, research etc.).
@samster817 But yet, admitting life as such a meaningless entity is bad. The interactions with other peers is what keeps us going, we found out that developing culture, sharing, loving, exploring, playing, competing with other people give us a beautiful reason to live ;)
@Silkenos Look at it from another perspective: Scientists say that the universe originated in an explosion called the 'Big Bang' about 15 billion years ago. Suppose the Big Bang had never occurred. Suppose the universe had never existed. What ultimate difference would it make? The universe is doomed to die anyway. In the end it makes no difference whether the universe ever existed or not. Therefore, it is without ultimate significance. (read other comments before and after this)
@Silkenos or look at it this way,lets say someone passed away, His life may be important relative to certain other events, but what is the ultimate significance of any of those events? If all the events are meaningless, then what can be the ultimate meaning of influencing any of them? Ultimately it makes no difference.(read other comments before and after this)
@Silkenos look up ("No Ultimate Meaning Without Immortality and God") in the (YAHOO) search engine and click on the first top link, take the parenthesees off wen you type it in or copy and paste it. read it all and it will show you the futality of your fate wen you believe such a horrible figment of your imagination. this is why athiests refuse to look upon the very fate they chose to theorize with their own minds. i dont even believe this and it depressed me. this is why u dont accept wut u say
@samster817 What the hell does big bang have to do with life? If there was no universe then there certainly would be no life, just like the time you weren't born, remember it? I think not, because you didn't exist, and by you I mean your conscious brain that feeds you the information from your surrounding environment, so happens after you die, your brain stops working => brain not working = no consciousness, feelings and whatsoever.
@Silkenos meaning of life, life wouldnt exist witheout the imaginary big bang. so what if it didnt happen? would anything change? would anyone care? would it matter? no because if their is no meaning to start with, the product of something meaningless will still come out as meaningless. theres no meaning in your theory, noothing to look foward to. humanity has no purpose because its a doomed race ina dying universe and is no better than a rock or an atom. nothing amounts to anything n ur theory
@samster817 Things like reason and meaning are manmade concepts that helped us better understand our environment, and not necessarily all things need to have one. Or if every life needs a meaning, then what is the meaning of god's existence?
@Silkenos their is no reason for GODs existance, which is why GOD created a reason by creating the universe and time. most people believe He was just sitting around untill He had the idea to create the universe, but God created time itself and therefore no time passed by until He created time. but anyway just wanted to point that out, though it doesnt realy have to do with our argument. but theres your answer anyway.
@samster817 Can you give me another honest answer please? Is there anywhere any evidence to be found for what you said? And if god can exist without a reason/cause, why can't the universe itself exist as such? Involving an intelligent god (which hasn't left any obvious evidence of its work) here just makes it more complicated. If we had evidence of his existence we'd all praise him. God has the same chance of existing as does the Flying Spaghetti Monster, Zeus, and the flying Teacup.
@Silkenos what the video? i showed u their is absolutley no meaning of life in athiesm. i im not trying to disprove meaning of life. but if your beliefs were true than there is none. there can be no meaning based on yours or the guys who made this videos beliefs. i believe there is meaning to life and i cant disprove that.
@samster817 yes, in that case, there is no meaning. Life just happened to exist because certain atoms did certain things in certain environments which were compatible to life. We're just a bunch of atoms, existing. And that is the beauty. For you to assume that the universe was made simply for us.. what arrogance? While stars are created a trillion light years away, and galaxies are destroyed, we exist. And it is amazing, and wondrous, and so, so beautiful. The occasion of life, the meaning of
@samster817 (cont.) it, is made no less mindblowingly amazing by a lack of religion. Science brings a certain spirituality (the part of religion which everyone likes).
@ilinaeternity huh? there shouldnt be any spirituality in your theory. not even secular spirituality. spirituality goes far beyond a purely materialistic view of the world. but in your assumptive theories there is nothing more than materialistic viewpoint. not even our thought can be non-materialistic but merely a series of chemical reaction of chaos forming a certain materialistic order. theres is NO part of religion in your views. in science its debatable or reletive, depends on your own views
@samster817 Spirituality isn't only linked to religion, kid. In fact, it's the part of religion you guys like. Secularists have learned to break free from the caging and mind-shitting part of organized religion and still know how to reach spirituality. I dance, for example. I reach so much spirituality through that. Who are you to tell me what spirituality is? And yes, I think the simple fact that are thoughts are just chemical reactions and signals in our brain is just magnificent.
@ilinaeternity who am i to tell you? i didnt prove your stupid argument wrong the dictonary did, so if you wanna blame something blame the dictionary and how its definitions are more accurate than the stuff you pull out of your butt. nice try though. it would have worked if i didnt own a dictionary and was still in the first grade.
I think people need to find their own reasons to live. Japan has the highest suicide rate in the world because everything in their culture is a repetitive formula, from anime to denial of history. They feel stuck in a pointless world in someone else's image. It's a very complex situation, thus is why they haven't found a solution to their 30,000+ suicides a year. I think everyone needs the freedom to be able to choose their own path and way, being Atheist or Religion, don't suppress each other.
@007Influence The top reason for that is the competition in Japan which is extreme compared to say the United States. When they cannot overcome any competition, the shame society that Japan is built on will look down upon them causing them to withdraw. It usually results in NEET's depression or Hikikimorism over suicide though.
To adopt this optimistic outlook on life, we have to abandon our complaints about the problem of evil and such when debating theists. Otherwise atheists seem hypocritical.
@asasasarap "and extraordinary braindead assholes require extraordinary laughter.Any smart or charismatic person laughs with your pitiful manipulation attempts.Fuck off.Noone takes you seriously."
Well, you don't speak for everyone in the world. Perhaps your rationalized views enable you to think you're somehow the voice of everyone, but evidence says that you're not.
@kaiyno "God has cause, nature has nothing, it blocks people from thinking rationally about cause & effect, a law that's universal in this physical world."
You haven't proven a god exists yet. Your assertion about "cause" is unfounded.
NATURE on the other hand, DOES exist. It's not a mind-blocker. Your indoctrination is the mind-blocker. It's funny that all the mental barriers you suffer from are the ones you claim others have.
"Why live?"
It beats the alternative.
rkyeun 8 hours ago
Any emotion brings with it emotional associations, which is a good thing ultimately, sadness brings sad thoughts, anger angry thoughts, love loving thoughts, happiness happy thoughts--etc. "Because things change" yes they do. It can be hard to realize that sometimes.
utubesux222 1 day ago
You live for fun and without fear. That's what you do.
Blasthood 4 days ago
'Crisis invites us to be more than we've been so far.'
I couldn't agree more. Unfortunately, it's in crisis that religions demand we settle for less.
TheHigherVoltage 1 week ago
this was one of the most beautiful things i've seen. thank you very much.
MrThinkingAtheist 2 weeks ago
Fascinating video! Education and Critical Thinking, Global Consciousness!!! That's why we live!!
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The atheist flag should have a hand with a pin-needle, like this video. :D
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The truth does not lie in logic. This video makes no real points and dressed up to be intellectualism when it is not deep of profound. The truth lies in how you feel about something. It is how we sort opinion from fact.
KaitlynnLane 3 weeks ago
@KaitlynnLane Yeah you are tottaly right! I feel that a rock will not fall when I push it out of my window. O wait it does.
Logic dictates that the rock will fall, so I guess logic wins.
NathanWubs 1 week ago
@NathanWubs
Everyone understands gravity douche-bag. Nobody is talking about the laws of physics. You just sound like a douche bag. I don't expect someone who can't even come up with a decent argument to understand what i am talking about.
KaitlynnLane 1 week ago
@KaitlynnLane You mean the theory of gravity, which explains several physic laws, that were found through logical and evidence based reasoning.
I understand what you are saying, I am just saying that your premise falls flat on its face.
How we feel about things indeed does affect the reality as we percieve it. That however does not make things correct.
The truth will be the truth regardless of people's feelings. That is what I am saying.
Oww thanks for the ad-hom.
NathanWubs 1 week ago
@NathanWubs
You are an idiot you don't understand what i am saying at all
read carl jung or something
KaitlynnLane 1 week ago
@KaitlynnLane Thanks again for the ad-hom. Thanks also for just dismissing my contentions to your claim, without even any evidence against them, and now running away. That is fine, but I thought maybe we could have a mature discussion. Were if you say that I am stupid that you clarify your point, so that even someone as stupid as me can understand.
Also I did not repeat what you said, I showed that evidence and logic based reasoning trumps feelings anyday.
NathanWubs 1 week ago
@NathanWubs I agree with you. I did run away and was not discussing it like a mature adult. Usually i don't engage in online banter but i was in a foul mood that night and did not like being challenged right then, and actually it is an important topic in a big way, so it does require an adult discussion.
KaitlynnLane 1 week ago
@KaitlynnLane
and though i still stand behind my logic, i did not offer you evidence and i also insulted you, so than you for not stooping to the low level i was functioning in because your response, and have seen so much of this on youtube, could have been an off the wall verbal bashing based on no grounds but an expression of inner anger, which i must admit i was somewhat doing.
KaitlynnLane 1 week ago
@NathanWubs
you are just repeating what i already said trying to prove you are smart. I'm over this thread
KaitlynnLane 1 week ago
Being alive can be intensely pleasurable and rewarding. My personal favorite part of living is my relationship with my amazing wife. I am sure it can and will be painful at times but it is very much worth it.
fathampton 3 weeks ago
Wonderful.
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I am ironically being distracted by the Church of Scientology's overlay ad. @QualiaSoup shun! shun! blacklist!
protonsanon 4 weeks ago
You know you see a LOT of cynicism around the net over insincere and lightly thrown about bleeding-heart sentiments.. thank you for marking this RARE occasion of the opposite.
jam11049 1 month ago
I hope everybody watch your videos, Im gonna share all your great, really educative and thought provoking videos with all my friends in social networking sites..... Great job!!!
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Why did you post your comment?
finalfantasy8911 3 weeks ago
I've not yet overcome fear of death. But I now try to regard it as the reverse of birth: You haven't been here for billions of years. Then suddenly, a very small fraction of the matter in the universe clutters together to form you. If you look at it as if rewinding a tape, you'll be here for a split second, be un-born and then never exist again. That's like death, only death will be "forward" through time. We know what it's like to not exist. It's what we do the most.
FHomeBrew 1 month ago 6
@FHomeBrew i have a hard time understanding why death sud b feared as long as i die with honour i care not for its gona happen 1day if theres nothing after this i wont know about it anyway thats why we celt went to battle nude no fear maybe that helps if ur worryed about not existing
kingpharaohtsar 1 month ago
Another great video explaining in simple terms important ideas of profound significance. Your work, QualiaSoup and TheraminTrees, has become a highly esteemed source of reflection and inspiration in my life. Thank you.
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Um you forgot sex.
ksthebest 1 month ago
"Why fight to live when we live to die? Because, perhaps there are few dying to live. "
Vexwisval28 2 months ago
Cool video :]
ApricotArtLover 2 months ago
Honesty beautiful video. For A long Time I've been continually depressed by my pessimistic certainty of future events and myself. I've never actually been able to believe in the prospect of things around me changing and It has really inhibited me in a lot of ways. I've never been able to detach myself from my social emotional biases and see the future purely as something important for my own natural experience. Watching your video made me UNDERSTAND that change does occur.
clonehigh123 2 months ago
@clonehigh123 P.S This video Is really cool. The metaphors used to illustrate the process of changes were awesome... and excuse my personal rant but thanks for the video.
clonehigh123 2 months ago
For atheists the life amounts to nothing. Hopeless despair and suffering. When happiness turns to misery your means of recovery are met with an inevitable sadness.
For the billions of people suffering, God is their means of inevitable happiness. A means to an End.
MrGrandDragon 2 months ago
@MrGrandDragon By believing in God people are kept imprisoned. There's no need for them to fight for a better future on this earth because they have got the promise of heaven.
I know the meaning of my life doesn't constitute of dreaming of a place where I might go after I die. The meaning of my life is to work to make this world a little bit better place. INSTEAD of praying for those billions, why not actually do something (anything) about it.
qita0 2 months ago
@qita0
If I am living in an amoral universe, I don't see why I should make the world a better place. If I am to choose my morals, then why not choose selfish ones; ones unblemished by stupidity, ignorance, and illogical notions. Why should I have the slightest sympathetic emotion for a bunch of hairless, sentimental/cruel, fallible, often incredibly stupid/insane, sexually indulging ape creatures??? If the worlds in their hands, then its doomed. Thats if they don't kill themselves first.
finalfantasy8911 2 months ago
@finalfantasy8911 Morality is such a complex issue.. And I wouldn't like to go into that, but unlike you (apparently), I don't buy the "human nature is cruel etc." crap. There are people who do cruel things, though that doesn't make them evil. I'm confused. In whose hands is this world if not in our? God's? So why did he make us like this, why is this world a cruel place etc. till infinity. And doesn't the Bible say the worlds doomed anyway...
qita0 2 months ago
@qita0
All I can say to your response is that I never claimed that humans are "evil". Thats all I can say because... I'M CONFUSED. Why do you assume that I'm religious?
finalfantasy8911 2 months ago
@finalfantasy8911 I'm sorry, I was answering to someone else at the same time, I must've confused you two.
qita0 2 months ago
@finalfantasy8911 Because we have evolved as social animals. People who feel that without god, they cannot be moral, are called psychopaths. They have a problem in their brain and cannot feel empathy, in the same way others do.
If we need god to tell us it's wrong to kill people, how on earth did the jews, as a race, get as far as Mount Sinai to receive the tablets?
St00sh13 2 weeks ago
@qita0
1) I have never dreamt of heaven before but I have had very good dream that made me feel surreal when I awoke to reality...
2) People do fight for a better future because in most religions people are aught to enjoin in good and forbid the evil...
3) Praying is an act greater then having a mere intention. People today don't even give things a second thought.
MrGrandDragon 2 months ago
@MrGrandDragon No, I'm talking about the fact that they're asleep even when they're awake. The second part is interesting though I didn't mean that. Let's say I'm going to skip over all the disturbing parts in the bible to the good ones... why don't people follow them? Don't kill? Love your enemies? What about Jesus? I wasn't talking about intention, but acts. I could pray every day and sure that would make ME feel better about myself, even though I hadn't really done anything.
qita0 2 months ago
@MrGrandDragon
Correct. With god/"higher"power out of the picture; all thats left is an amoral, oblivious universe. Its a free-for-all for everyone, do whatever you want and it truly doesn't matter because all morals are EQUAL and life has no meaning; thus you are worthless and that cannot be changed. All an atheist can do is delude or distract oneself. But thats if your born with an adequete brain. Born severely mentally handicap? Then your one shot at life is ruined. Why? Just because.
finalfantasy8911 2 months ago
@MrGrandDragon Did you watch this video? As it seems you did not. This video is about why people live without god. But here you attribute things to atheist that are not inherently true.
So why are you making the strawman? That is obviously not true if you watched this video. And now because I talked to you. My life amounts to a lot of things and I could list them all, but it would be a list over 300 reasons.
So will you get rid of your strawman?
NathanWubs 2 months ago
Brilliantly powerful.
WSCP 2 months ago
Some day, i want to be as good as you are QS : )
daarco2 2 months ago
Wow, this has some absolutely amazing and appropriate metaphors..
Excellent video! Loved it.
Anarchy17SB 2 months ago
Thankyou dearly
MrFunxy 2 months ago 3
@MrFunxy Thank you, MrFunxy.
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MrFunxy 2 months ago
One word on what Qualia Soup is: Filosopher.
cookiedude2009 2 months ago
The answer, of course, differs from person to person and, as far as I've seen, religious people come up with their own reasons just as atheists do. Asking the question "Why live? implies one has considered the alternative, otherwise, why would one even have the thought? It seems to me that, if you can't come up with any other answer, belief that a god existing gives life meaning might be the only thing keeping someone from total despair. Maybe that's why some theists seem to be so negative.
YY4Me133 2 months ago
@YY4Me133 Well no, the question: "why live?", can also just come from the fact that we are mortal. Faced with our mortality we can come to the question. Why do we live if life is so short? This questions can of course be shortened too. "Why live?"
NathanWubs 2 months ago
@NathanWubs I guess we could ask "why" anything, but what's the point? There is no "why." Life evolved. It has no intrinsic "meaning" or "purpose." We can give our own lives whatever "meaning" or "purpose" we choose.
YY4Me133 2 months ago
@YY4Me133
That IS a wonderful thing; and at the same time a SERIOUS problem. One can choose a purpose, a goal, but theres a possibility that won't come to fulfillment; no matter how hard you try to achieve it. One can be a day away from that goal, then get shot to death at a drive-by shooting. Thats the kind of unfortunate chaos that this unguided universe has to offer us. Not to mention cancer/other sickness passed down from past generations. Everyones life is 90% up to "luck".
finalfantasy8911 1 month ago
@finalfantasy8911 Of course you could be shot and killed before you finished your goal or your project, but it was never about the goal or the project, but about the process. The enjoyment of pursuing the goal is the real goal. Living in the moment while you work towards a goal. or work on a project. is what matters, nothing else. Everything you have, every breath you take is borrowed. You take nothing with you when you die. Enjoy your moments.
politicoochie09 3 weeks ago
@politicoochie09
What a monstrous existance. To believe & live for a goal for which you may or may not achieve, due to 90% of it being controlled by random chance. Could you really be so "optimistic" if your life was unexpectedly coming to an end? These life issues are one of the reasons why religion exists; life is horrendous(most of the time) & unfair.
finalfantasy8911 3 weeks ago
@finalfantasy8911 Again, life is about the adventure, the journey. So what if it’s full of chances and random events? Do you know exactly how a new video game will play out? Do you always expect to get your way? Does everything have to be planned and perfect for you? What a boring adventure that would be if you always got what you wanted. You sound like a child. Are you a child?
politicoochie09 2 weeks ago
@finalfantasy8911 imagining some meta-justice doesn't make it any fairer though.
St00sh13 2 weeks ago
@St00sh13
How does it not? If one is framed for a crime & gets unjustly sent to jail for life while the criminal gets to run free, how will justice be surved when all evidence is destroyed by the criminal?
finalfantasy8911 2 weeks ago
@finalfantasy8911 Justice wouldn't be served in that case. But who says life has to be fair? We might want it to be fair. We might want there to be some kind of overall justice (or karma, as some call it) but that doesn't mean their is.
Wanting something to be true, doesn't make it so and imagining there to be some kind of meta-justice, stops us seeking justice here.
If we had thought like that 100 years ago, we wouldn't have started looking for things like fingerprints/DNA to get past that.
St00sh13 2 weeks ago
@St00sh13
There will never be true justice here.
finalfantasy8911 2 weeks ago
@finalfantasy8911 But we can work towards it. However imagining that there is some kind of justice when our cells die, stops us working towards it.
And anyway, According to your eternal justice, some murderer who converts on his death bed can get to heaven, but the people he murdered (who may have lived decent lives helping others, but just never believed in god) have to burn in hell forever.
According to your god, it;s not your actions that get you to heaven, it's purely being a believer.
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@St00sh13
According to my eternal justice?! I never said anything about being in a religious faction. Why do you illogically assume that I believe in the bible? I'll tell you this: I don't. Surprising? The humans work & look toward a delusionary dream; a fantasy that can never be achieved. World peace? Perfect Justice? A society where EVERYONE can enjoy a happy life?A world where ALL achieve enlightenment in a meaningless world? Never. Not as long as all men have free will of mind.
finalfantasy8911 2 weeks ago
@finalfantasy8911 Apologies if I mistook you as a religious fanatic. You made the same false assumption that they do: That without a god there can be no morality.
Are you really saying you don't want to work towards such things as justice? enlightenment?
You show all the signs of someone who cannot empathise with others. In an animal such as us, that has evolved to be a social creature, such lack of empathy is dysfunctional.
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@St00sh13
Its not that without god theres no morality; without OBJECTIVE morality there is no real morality. The fabric of the universe itself dooms humans into only concocting a morality; morality that reality itself defines as invalid. The only valid morality is none at all. That means that you & I can do WHATEVER we want with no Hell to fear. Whatever we want at all! Hehe, also apathy is indeed dysfunctional...for the feeble at heart. The mind is indeed an...interesting tool.
finalfantasy8911 2 days ago
Powerful message, very inspiring! And awesome soundtrack, as usual : ) I think I might show this to some of my friends...
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@Clearie552 Thanks very much, Clearie. Of course I'm in complete agreement with you about TheraminTrees' beautiful music. ;^>
QualiaSoup 2 months ago
I love the music and the message. As always your videos are awesome.
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This almost made me not want to kill myself. Almost
branecannon 3 months ago
Why Live?
Life's interesting.
George4943 3 months ago
after all this i still think life is pointless if there's no God. that wasn't persuading at all
ellenaor 3 months ago
@ellenaor life is certainly objectively purposeless, but with god (if you mean the god of christianity or islam etc) your purpose will be to worship this god for eternity, that would be worse than absolute purposeless
wearestarstuffsagan 2 months ago
Find what makes you feal good and make shurre to get it.
Dont let people stop you.
But dont hurt anyone ok.
chrstilen5 3 months ago
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@ketchkade "Well the point of all the "absurd" and frankly impossible ways of keeping your self from sinning, is to keep you looking for what it is that will bring you salvation." - Your claim is that the bible was intentionally filled with garbage to make it more challenging for people to find the truth
Even tho whoever wrote it this way would have known that millions of people would have gotten the wrong end of the stick ensuring that they go to hell - thats fukd up bro
shandcunt 3 months ago
Why live?
Why NOT live?
LeaveLikeTheSane 3 months ago
Whenever I hear this question I wonder why it is that Theists lives.
They believe that they'll be in a perfect place where all their dreams will come true.
With a believe in a perfect afterlife, what is it that makes them choose to live in a flawed world for 20, 40 or even 80 years?
triovani 3 months ago 2
why live?
4:20
nuf said
a10fjet 3 months ago
life isnt really a place to have fun.. at least not to every one just the powerful
mcdudly00 3 months ago
I am severely disabled and have brain damage, and live with constant pain. I had believed myself stupid but recently people encouraged me and I am now studying and realising I can be more than I am. This video is wonderful and just fits with with how my life has changed in the past six months. I aspire to be more than I am and am learning how beautiful life can be. Thank you for a lovely video.
bagospannerz 3 months ago 16
I like that you use text instead of a voice over. Some of your points (imho) could of been better said, but overall perfect for the question
Kenji000 3 months ago
I've been asking myself this, thank you, for the perspective. :)
StupidWiz 3 months ago
loved this. and i'm usually a cynical bitch.
JuliaJRains 3 months ago
Excellent!!! Mind-opening!!!
neighbor1961 4 months ago
beautiful
M3T4LK4R1N4 4 months ago
Since your videos contain many beautiful words that I'm usually willing to add to my personal English dict., I wanted to ask you to add transcriptions to the video descriptions as well. That way, there would be no need to do the same work (writing, done by you; and re-writing\copying, done by those, who are interested in saving the text messages for some purpose) many times by different people.
Also, making two questions one: are there videos, addressing self-learning and comprehension problems?
NetIncarnate 4 months ago
Pizza, women, football, women, hooters wings, women, beer, vegas, the DR, motorcycles, women, cool ass atheist videos, debates, women, science, political banter, reading, movies, kicking it with friends, women, comedy shows, palm trees, snow, beaches-boardwalks, gambling, cruises, gambling on cruises, meeting new people especially women, BJJ, weightlifting, Joe Rogan's Podcast, UFC, Paquiao-Mayweather, women are some of my reasons to live without a god..Your reasons are cool too.
agent1180 4 months ago
If I don't die, things can also change for the worse. I can lose the capacity to end my life by choice, and things can get even worse still. There is no limit to the degree of suffering that is possible. The problem is not Atheism. It is that choice, meaning, our drives, are all illusion. The whole thing is a fraud. If you're doing well great. If you can get better and do well great. But if your chances are low, and the illusions don't hold up for you. The compromise of continuing is a poor one.
momentinpassing 4 months ago
When the beauty of nature is finally destroyed by all the idiots who think the Earth can't be changed by humans because God said so in some scripture somewhere then I don't think there will be any more reason to live for anyone.
False belief in an afterlife allows greedy people to justify the damage they do and it will be the Earth's downfall.
J27Delight 4 months ago
@J27Delight If you have told one lie, that makes you a liar. If you have stolen one thing, that makes you a thief. JESUS said; if you look at a person with lust, you commit adultery in your heart! Ever used GOD's name in vain; then you are a blasphemer and can't enter GOD's kingdom! Rev 21v8 says; "All liars will have their part in the lake of fire!" The bible says; No thief or adulterer will enter heaven! You broke GOD's laws; but JESUS paid your fine! Repent & trust the Savior!
EXALTEDDIRT 3 months ago
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@Majoofi Actually only two reasons for living without GOD; Loving your sin and hating GOD!
EXALTEDDIRT 3 months ago
@Majoofi
ten more: sex, sex,cake, sex, reefer, coca-cola, family, friends, sex and rock & roll.
XD
Bloodyidit 3 months ago 2
@Majoofi How many petting sessions of a puppy cost a cancer victim dying a slow miserable death? Life is an exclusively negative preposition and whilst one might perceive some ephemeral contrived value in own life, imposition of new life or in most cases attempts to thwart other sentient agencies to end their own is adamantly unjustifiable.
Maozang 3 months ago
@Majoofi who said living with god prevents you from all of that?
ketchkade 3 months ago
@ketchkade well number 10 would actually contradict with an omnipotent being.
the rest are fine xD
OmfgItsHenu 3 months ago
@ketchkade noone, but those things mean that it is still worth living whether there is a god or not
Agar101 3 months ago
beautifully composed, strong powerful message, very optimistic view on life and that seems to be what most at the moment need to upturn this nose-diving human condition.
naopatao 5 months ago
beautifully composed, strong powerful message, very optimistic view on life and that seems to be what most at the moment need to upturn this nose-diving human condition.
naopatao 5 months ago
@kaiyno I have an explanation for the cause of the universe. It is rational, and it's not "for no reason" like you claim. And you don't need God to have a reason for life.
AtheismIsCorrect 5 months ago
@AtheismIsCorrect Not when CAUSALITY is in play, which is the main reason why people believe in God.
kaiyno 5 months ago
@kaiyno You do not need God to have a good life. If you don't think that's true, you need evidence to support your claim. See the video I favorited about atheist and religious life.
AtheismIsCorrect 5 months ago
@AtheismIsCorrect So, lets hear it, what's caused the universe then?........
kaiyno 5 months ago
@kaiyno
1) Being atheist does not mean you have to have a complete explanation for everything including the origin of the universe.
2) I do have an explanation, quantum fluctuations and mathematics to explain that.
AtheismIsCorrect 5 months ago
@AtheismIsCorrect Conclusion: you have NOTHING, good luck with that :]
kaiyno 5 months ago
@kaiyno Thanks for not explaining either of the points I gave you.
AtheismIsCorrect 5 months ago
@AtheismIsCorrect How can you explain the nothing? . . . ........
kaiyno 5 months ago
@kaiyno You CAN get something from nothing and I have a mathematical explanation. I do have arguments for myself. I don't have nothing. I know someone who can't give any arguments other than, "don't take a risk of going to hell".
AtheismIsCorrect 5 months ago
@AtheismIsCorrect LMAO, can you stop thinking about Hell first? thank you. Once you describe your mathematical explanation, can you please tell me what good in the end does your existance and everyone elses bring to this universe if according to you life is caused with no point to it?..
kaiyno 5 months ago
@kaiyno Nothing exists. There are zero objects, therefore, zero exists. The number zero exists, is ONE number, therefore one exists. Goes with the number line whih you have no proof cannot turn into a string. There is more but I can't explain in 500 characters.
While we are here, we might as well enjoy life. If we mess up and have a bad one, we're done. You really don't understand that God is unneeded for morality. In the end, it is great we had fun while we were here.
AtheismIsCorrect 5 months ago
@AtheismIsCorrect LMAO morality and ethics are under the causality law as well, therefore everything was designed and depends on the Mastermind: God. And what's the point according to you, to enjoy life and have fun while we're here??...
kaiyno 5 months ago
@kaiyno I've already answered. We have no before-life, and there is no after-life (at least as far as I know) so in order to have the best time, we must have fun during-life. Again, watch the video I favorited. You don't need God for morality. You are just convinced you HAVE to have God for morality unless I can absolutely 100% prove that false. That is wrong.
It's like asking, what is the point of Christmas without Santa Clause?
AtheismIsCorrect 5 months ago
@AtheismIsCorrect Wasn't talking about ethics or morality, you brought that up. I was talking about God being the only RATIONAL cause for the existance and origin of the universe, and you changed the topic because you have this: N O T H I N G, with this empty argument you will always have fallacy in your arguments, if you don't focus on causality then you're not focusing on the rational aspect, you're just going in circles around the question mark with no argument in your hands.
kaiyno 3 months ago
@kaiyno "and you changed the topic because you have this: N O T H I N G"
You need to learn something. Scientists have come up with an explanation for the origin of the universe without a God, and it is supported by evidence. Go to wikipedia and look up "Planck epoch". I do have something, and you're only denying it so you can win.
AtheismIsCorrect 3 months ago
@AtheismIsCorrect The Planck epoch says nothing about the cause of the universe, it just talks about the time of the universe from zero to approximately 10−43 seconds (Planck time). There's nothing on what could of caused the Planck epoch and the universe itself, so nice try :]
kaiyno 3 months ago
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@kaiyno "There's nothing on what could of caused the Planck epoch and the universe itself, so nice try"
Go to wikipedia, type in "Quantum fluctuation".
You clearly have not done a lot of research.
AtheismIsCorrect 3 months ago
@kaiynoYour point of Life is to to worship God. What's the point of God's life then?
theteacher010 5 months ago
@theteacher010 Point of human intelligent life is to LOVE, and when you love God then you can worship him, God doesn't want people that don't have love in their hearts, that's why you wouldn't worship someone if you don't really love that person. Love is the main point in life, because nothing can stop love.
kaiyno 5 months ago
Watched this video again for the first time in ages, and it just reminded me that the two of you are genius.
I really love anything you guys touch, you're amazing.
NShimaru 5 months ago
@NShimaru On behalf of Qualia and me, thank you ;8)
TheraminTrees 5 months ago
@asasasarap "What crappy propaganda to suppord blunt materialism and global financial technological dictatorship with its pimps while on the same time turning the planet into a shithole with mafias ruling everything.Long live magical thinking scumbags."
Ah yes! The crap that started it all.
Author: You.
Evidence: None.
Intent: Unsuccessful trolling.
Outcome: Unsuccessful.
Ital21 5 months ago
@asasasarap "By the way why did you shut your mouth so unexpectedly after your immense goof about me and m.h problem?"
MY goof?
Lol my uneducated anti-evidence proponent, surely, you remember that it was YOU that needed some clearing-up after the problem was proposed.
If not, why would you still require to regurgitate about it even now?
To me, it's a clear case of "butt-hurt" ego and low intellect, in and all-on itself.
That just means that you have statistically low mathematical knack.
Ital21 5 months ago
@asasasarap "It's not about your more or less education.It's about your cocky attitude and the dogma you represent."
so all this time you NEVER actually had anything better than what physics teaches us and you were just trying to "win the debate" with mere force of attitude?
Surely, you're at least smart enough to note the grand failure in your intent. And if you can't, I weep for the biological strain that resulted in you.
Ital21 5 months ago
This was extremely beautiful and for some reason the music really evoked strong emotions in me and I welled up at some parts. Nothing has done this to me in quite some time, so I'm pretty amazed. Thank you.
Beanybag2 5 months ago
Briilliantly done
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QualiaSoup & TheraminTrees: greatest brothers on youtube. Great thinkers but also great composers.
Anduy 5 months ago 7
@Anduy That's most appreciated, Anduy. On behalf of me and TheraminTrees, thanks very much!
QualiaSoup 5 months ago 2
@Anduy Agreed!
TwilightCodex 5 months ago
I honestly don't understand the message that this video is trying to send. What the hell is this video about?
TheSmackerlacker 5 months ago
@TheSmackerlacker As I understand it, people usually can base their motivation to continue on with their lives on various reasoning (from the basic self-preservation instinct to achieving more corporeal\intellectual pleasure and further to personal ethical\philosophical frames). And in cases, when a religion has been used as a basement for such reasoning, man can find himself in serious life-threatening crisis if he starts to doubt his religious believes, that were once intact and solid.
NetIncarnate 4 months ago
assuming the universe existed just because it always has, wich is already refuted and there still is no cause known to produce the effect of the entire universe. nothing, causing an entire universe to be created is irrelevant and has no place in real science. but assuming this there still is no reasons for any thing, no justifications, just explanations of why things happen through natural laws. you only give justifications that were created by our own morals. such circular reasoning is irelavnt
samster817 6 months ago
wow this just doesnt give a relevant reason to live. who chose what was bleak or exciting? who set the standards for life? almost every athiest believes life is nothing but a series of chemical reactions. so what is life then? how do we distinguish mere complexity from specified complexity? the line must be blurred because both are said to be random. but you say natural selectionand mutation help survival, for what purpose? and why isnt tis suported by empirical evidence? U FAIL.
samster817 6 months ago
@samster817 Okay and what is your point of view, and the reasons behind it?
Silkenos 6 months ago
@Silkenos that is irrelevant to what i have said but i am a christian, i only looked at this through your own beliefs. i actually respect the ones who stick to the their is no reason for life than i do with this. if you believe everything is random and has no purpose than stick to your beliefs instead of being a hypocrite. thats why this type of bull is nothing but an attempt to discredit relevant point. why do we want to live? chemical reactions happen for no purpose? why so synchronized?
samster817 6 months ago
@samster817 Looking at life technically--yes, it's just a cluster of millions of reactions that give you all the life functions, which has evolved in a course of 4 billion years, hence the complexity. It's our advanced brain that tries to seek a meaning to life when there really isn't, it's just the way humans work, we are curious, which has showed quite beneficial during our development as species (exploration, communication, research etc.).
Silkenos 5 months ago
@samster817 But yet, admitting life as such a meaningless entity is bad. The interactions with other peers is what keeps us going, we found out that developing culture, sharing, loving, exploring, playing, competing with other people give us a beautiful reason to live ;)
Silkenos 5 months ago
@Silkenos Look at it from another perspective: Scientists say that the universe originated in an explosion called the 'Big Bang' about 15 billion years ago. Suppose the Big Bang had never occurred. Suppose the universe had never existed. What ultimate difference would it make? The universe is doomed to die anyway. In the end it makes no difference whether the universe ever existed or not. Therefore, it is without ultimate significance. (read other comments before and after this)
samster817 5 months ago
@Silkenos or look at it this way,lets say someone passed away, His life may be important relative to certain other events, but what is the ultimate significance of any of those events? If all the events are meaningless, then what can be the ultimate meaning of influencing any of them? Ultimately it makes no difference.(read other comments before and after this)
samster817 5 months ago
@Silkenos look up ("No Ultimate Meaning Without Immortality and God") in the (YAHOO) search engine and click on the first top link, take the parenthesees off wen you type it in or copy and paste it. read it all and it will show you the futality of your fate wen you believe such a horrible figment of your imagination. this is why athiests refuse to look upon the very fate they chose to theorize with their own minds. i dont even believe this and it depressed me. this is why u dont accept wut u say
samster817 5 months ago
@samster817 What the hell does big bang have to do with life? If there was no universe then there certainly would be no life, just like the time you weren't born, remember it? I think not, because you didn't exist, and by you I mean your conscious brain that feeds you the information from your surrounding environment, so happens after you die, your brain stops working => brain not working = no consciousness, feelings and whatsoever.
Silkenos 5 months ago
@Silkenos meaning of life, life wouldnt exist witheout the imaginary big bang. so what if it didnt happen? would anything change? would anyone care? would it matter? no because if their is no meaning to start with, the product of something meaningless will still come out as meaningless. theres no meaning in your theory, noothing to look foward to. humanity has no purpose because its a doomed race ina dying universe and is no better than a rock or an atom. nothing amounts to anything n ur theory
samster817 5 months ago
@samster817 Things like reason and meaning are manmade concepts that helped us better understand our environment, and not necessarily all things need to have one. Or if every life needs a meaning, then what is the meaning of god's existence?
Silkenos 5 months ago
@Silkenos their is no reason for GODs existance, which is why GOD created a reason by creating the universe and time. most people believe He was just sitting around untill He had the idea to create the universe, but God created time itself and therefore no time passed by until He created time. but anyway just wanted to point that out, though it doesnt realy have to do with our argument. but theres your answer anyway.
samster817 5 months ago
@samster817 Can you give me another honest answer please? Is there anywhere any evidence to be found for what you said? And if god can exist without a reason/cause, why can't the universe itself exist as such? Involving an intelligent god (which hasn't left any obvious evidence of its work) here just makes it more complicated. If we had evidence of his existence we'd all praise him. God has the same chance of existing as does the Flying Spaghetti Monster, Zeus, and the flying Teacup.
Silkenos 5 months ago
@samster817 Can you disprove any of the above mentioned? If yes then that would make you an atheist.
Silkenos 5 months ago
@Silkenos what the video? i showed u their is absolutley no meaning of life in athiesm. i im not trying to disprove meaning of life. but if your beliefs were true than there is none. there can be no meaning based on yours or the guys who made this videos beliefs. i believe there is meaning to life and i cant disprove that.
samster817 5 months ago
@samster817 I made two comments you might be confused, look up the first one, this was the second.
Silkenos 5 months ago
@samster817
ofc there is meaning of life in atheism. atheism is the nonbelief in gods. that doesn't mean there is no meaning in life.
You are just a stupid and ignorant 15 year old kid - you admitted that yourself.
transtlantic 5 months ago
@samster817 yes, in that case, there is no meaning. Life just happened to exist because certain atoms did certain things in certain environments which were compatible to life. We're just a bunch of atoms, existing. And that is the beauty. For you to assume that the universe was made simply for us.. what arrogance? While stars are created a trillion light years away, and galaxies are destroyed, we exist. And it is amazing, and wondrous, and so, so beautiful. The occasion of life, the meaning of
ilinaeternity 5 months ago
@samster817 (cont.) it, is made no less mindblowingly amazing by a lack of religion. Science brings a certain spirituality (the part of religion which everyone likes).
ilinaeternity 5 months ago
@ilinaeternity huh? there shouldnt be any spirituality in your theory. not even secular spirituality. spirituality goes far beyond a purely materialistic view of the world. but in your assumptive theories there is nothing more than materialistic viewpoint. not even our thought can be non-materialistic but merely a series of chemical reaction of chaos forming a certain materialistic order. theres is NO part of religion in your views. in science its debatable or reletive, depends on your own views
samster817 5 months ago
@samster817 Spirituality isn't only linked to religion, kid. In fact, it's the part of religion you guys like. Secularists have learned to break free from the caging and mind-shitting part of organized religion and still know how to reach spirituality. I dance, for example. I reach so much spirituality through that. Who are you to tell me what spirituality is? And yes, I think the simple fact that are thoughts are just chemical reactions and signals in our brain is just magnificent.
ilinaeternity 5 months ago
@ilinaeternity who am i to tell you? i didnt prove your stupid argument wrong the dictonary did, so if you wanna blame something blame the dictionary and how its definitions are more accurate than the stuff you pull out of your butt. nice try though. it would have worked if i didnt own a dictionary and was still in the first grade.
samster817 5 months ago
I think people need to find their own reasons to live. Japan has the highest suicide rate in the world because everything in their culture is a repetitive formula, from anime to denial of history. They feel stuck in a pointless world in someone else's image. It's a very complex situation, thus is why they haven't found a solution to their 30,000+ suicides a year. I think everyone needs the freedom to be able to choose their own path and way, being Atheist or Religion, don't suppress each other.
007Influence 6 months ago
@007Influence Well, the main reason Japan has the highest suicide rate is because of social norms of honor and the pressure to succeed.
zellfalcon31 6 months ago
@007Influence The top reason for that is the competition in Japan which is extreme compared to say the United States. When they cannot overcome any competition, the shame society that Japan is built on will look down upon them causing them to withdraw. It usually results in NEET's depression or Hikikimorism over suicide though.
EnsignN7 6 months ago
omg, some shit yarns being spun in the comments of this one quila
eightonefour1 6 months ago
Why live? Because I don't want to die? Fair enough?
HybridD91 6 months ago
@HybridD91 Maybe you don't want to die but you will sooner or later.
MoonwalkerWorshiper 6 months ago
To adopt this optimistic outlook on life, we have to abandon our complaints about the problem of evil and such when debating theists. Otherwise atheists seem hypocritical.
ThatGuyWithHippyHair 6 months ago
@asasasarap "and extraordinary braindead assholes require extraordinary laughter.Any smart or charismatic person laughs with your pitiful manipulation attempts.Fuck off.Noone takes you seriously."
Well, you don't speak for everyone in the world. Perhaps your rationalized views enable you to think you're somehow the voice of everyone, but evidence says that you're not.
Evidence... hmm... curious word, ain't it?
it's something you don't have, actually.
Ital21 6 months ago
@kaiyno "God has cause, nature has nothing, it blocks people from thinking rationally about cause & effect, a law that's universal in this physical world."
You haven't proven a god exists yet. Your assertion about "cause" is unfounded.
NATURE on the other hand, DOES exist. It's not a mind-blocker. Your indoctrination is the mind-blocker. It's funny that all the mental barriers you suffer from are the ones you claim others have.
Oh the irony!!
Ital21 6 months ago