Det Dickinson was on duty that night. His responsibilities are to ensure protesters have their first ammendment rights. Ensuring that everyone is safe and informing the other on-duty police officer of this, WAS his job. If anyone's personal beliefs got in the way of being professional, it was Officer Addington.... and the CPD agrees. He is currently sitting behind a desk until further notice.
This video isn’t about any of the issues people keep bringing up. It is about a man who was hired to do a job. A CPD officer chose to pick up a few special duty hours. He doesn’t care who hired him. It is a job. He is a man who puts his life on the line for people every day. He doesn’t care who you are or what you believe. He is there to help when he is called. Officer Addington did the right thing. Shame on that detective for putting his personal beliefs ahead of his professional boundaries.
@SarahP2016, No, that would be a waste of time. I'm not really worried about it, since our civilization is about to collapse. And once it does, we'll see a reordering of humanity. You have no idea what's coming.
@SarahP2016, Yes, so did the Nazis. The Germans, as you may know, were very rules oriented. And now we know that laws that are not "morally right" -- that is, immoral -- are fine with you. Thanks for telling the world.
@SarahP2016, I'll also mention that it seems you've issued a tacit admission of your position's intellectual vacuity. After all, if all you can do is say that the "law" is on your side -- which is merely stating the obvious -- it indicates that you don't really have an argument. "Might makes right...."
@SarahP2016. Yes, the "law" (man's) is on your side, just as it was on the Nazis' side in 1936 Germany and on slave-owners' side in 1847 Virginia. So you don't have much to brag about there. However, you will never be on the side of right, and nothing you can do or say will change that. By the way, if you are a man, it's fitting that you have a "Sarah" handle. It explains much.
The title of this video is completely misleading. We have no idea what happened before you started filming this. What I see is a police officer (who seems to have been hired to wok at this event, as is the norm in Columbus) restrain a plain-clothed man (who is wearing a badge, so I can be assume him to be a police officer too).
The plain-clothed man is ON the property and is being told he is trespassing. Until you can show proof that the man was NOT actually trespassing, your video is crap.
If you are going to have an opinion about abortion, we should first know what it is. Has any of you seen one? Do you know what is done to the mother? What is put in those bio hazard bags? If you have seen an ultrasound, you know what is put in those bags. Women are pregnant with offspring. Tiny babies. All of us posting comments on here were once those tiny babies, each unique and still ourselves- just smaller and younger, thats it. Go to abortionNO's website to see a real abortion in progress..
"Pro-choice people will not-indeed, cannot-listen to reason. Pro-choice people are insane and will not convert to reason-they will attempt to convert reason."
@redhairedflare So according to you and whoever this Kreeft asshole is, all pro-choice people are not only "murderers" and "baby killers", but each and every one of them is now insane.
Yup, you truly are "living to a higher standard" than everybody else, not only here on YouTube, but in the entire world. Hypocritical much?
There is only one way to steer clear of "unplanned" pregnancies and therefore reduce abortions (which PP claims to do). That is by abstinence, but we treat our young people as if they are dogs unable to control themselves. At the same time we tell them don't drive until your 16, don't drink, don't smoke. However, the most intimate, sacred, act of sex is treated as a party favor by "comp. sex" proponents. What a crime we are commiting to our young people. Sex=babies, that's the natural end of it.
@Lady0Pamela Kind of a personal question but yes I am, I am not married. I figure if a guy really loves me he will prove it to me by being abstinant himself until marriage. That way nether of us are using each other solely for sexual kicks.
@redhairedflare Well you sometimes have to answer personal questions when you insert yourself in others personal lives. I am glad to hear that you live what you preach, but as you said you are not married, and you may be single, which kinda makes it easy to be abstinant. However, your going to have a hard time finding that abstinant virgin guy to partner with in this day and age. So good luck but it doesn't work for everyone.
@Lady0Pamela So if a woman was to kill her two year old and I stepped in and told her that what she was doing was wrong, that their are other options, then I would I be intruding in on her personal life? BTW, I believe if a man is worth spending the rest of my life with, then he won't use me as a sexual object, nor I him. This is what happens when we lose the message of what sex is really about: babies and bonding.
@redhairedflare You ppl always go to the weirdest extreme's. We all agree killing a child is wrong, that has nothing to do with aborting a fetus. Wow so you believe that making love with someone you love is being used? So do you also tell him that when you marry, you don't plan on being used sexually? That you will only have sex with him during marriage to have babies.
@Lady0Pamela Aborting a fetus is wrong because it is a child. The pro-life community likes to provide women with other options besides killing her child, such as those who promote promiscuity like to provide young people the option of having s** without restrain. As for s** I believe that if a man truly loves me then he will show his commitment to me beforehand, by waiting until matrimony. There is nothing wrong with sex when used in the right context (for babies AND bonding w/in matrimony).
@redhairedflare Are you really such a prissy tight-assed little arrested development child that you can't quite bring yourself to type in the word "sex" in several instances here? Sex sex SEX sex sex SEX FUN fun DIRTY sex SEX SEX. See, that wasn't so bad now, was it?
@Bluesman63 Wow, thanks for the classyness. First of all I figured You Tube might have some decency rules against saying the word. Second, I try to make it PG, b/c anyone can be reading this, including children.
@redhairedflare lol, what are you, new here? I find it very hard to believe that you've never scrolled around well, just about any YouTube comment page and seen the extreme profanity and vulgarity used by many people. True class and consideration are as utterly absent here as they have become in society as a whole. What I posted was very mild in comparison.
@Bluesman63 Well I like to live to a higher standard than the average YouTube commentor. Just because others act with no class or consideration does not mean we should. I wouldn't talke to a person like that face to face would you?
@redhairedflare If you are truly one concerned with restoring civility and class to public discourse, it seems to me that a very appropriate first step in that endeavor would be to no longer align yourself with a group of people intent on calling all pro-choicers "baby killers" or "child murderers", wouldn't you agree?
@Bluesman63, Well, they certainly do, in the least, provide aid and comfort (not to mention votes) to murderers. You see, the problem you have is that you can't change the truth. Abortion is the murder of an unborn child in the womb, and you support it. The problem is that, at the end of the day, pro-abortion folks don't really have respect for life.
@EternalAnachronism You see, the problem you have is that you can't change the truth. And the truth is, and try to stay with me here: In the eyes of a little thing called THE LAW, abortion is not considered murder, while things like, you know, bombing women's clinics and terroristic threats against clinic staff and patients are. Such are many pro-lifers' ideas of "respect for life", hypocrite. At the end of the day, all your whining will never change THE LAW. Class over - Dismissed, idiot!
@Bluesman63, Yes, child, it's the truth that the law is what you say it is. It's also the truth that the law is at variance with morality in this case. And it's also the truth that no matter what you do, no matter how much you stamp your foot, you won't be able to change the fact that you are gravely in error and are embracing immorality. Lastly, it is a truth that your lack of virtue is making you unhappy. As Aristotle said, and I'm paraphrasing, living a moral life is necessary for happiness.
@redhairedflare The prolife community doesn't provide other options or assitance that isn't already out there and taken into consideration. The only thing they try to do is make a woman feel bad about herself and call her a murderer, using emotional blackmail in hopes she complies to their controlling wishes. No one is trying to tell kids to go fuck their brains out, they are simply saying if you are going to do it, try to do it with a condom. Sex is just fun, good luck trying to find your guy.
@redhairedflare Again you didn't answer my question, will you only have sex with your spouse when you want to have a child or do you plan on being one of those women popping out kids like puppies, having way more then you can afford or take care of merely because you can produce them? Or do you only plan on having sex with him everyonce in a while and then refusing him when you don't want to have any more kids?
The fact is that Planned Parenthood is the largest abortion provider in this country (I heard recently they do 25% off all abortions in the U.S.). @389GTO65 Science once also "proved" that black people and Jews were less human too. You can see the boards in the footage, there are pictures of whole babies and babies ripped apart by abortion. It very clearly is not "pieces of conception" as PP likes to explain it, but pre-born children with hands, feet, legs, eyes, etc.
@redhairedflare Those are pictures of late term abortions, so yes they look more like babies the size of quarters. Late term abortions are only supposed to happen when it has a medical reason to it; ie to save the mothers life or to end the suffering of a baby. I love how they never mention that those photos are late term abortion. A fetus at six weeks kinda looks like a devolping frog. 25% that isn't even 50% of all abortions, how are they the largest provider?
@redhairedflare Just cause you were holding the pictures doesn't mean you know the time frame the fetus was aborted. As I said the six week fetus doesn't have identifiable hands or feet.
@Lady0Pamela You should look at the footage again, of the boards we were holding, and then look up fetal development. I think we had only one board with an preborn child on it older than 11 weeks.
@redhairedflare The video doesn't show the boards you were holding. CDC reported that 26% of abortions in the United States were known to have been obtained at less than 6 weeks' gestation, 18% at 7 weeks, 15% at 8 weeks, 4.1% at 16 through 20 weeks and 1.4% at more than 21 weeks. Most women have the abortion done before 10 weeks. I think if you can't make your mind up by then you should just have the baby or adopt it out. 11 weeks and up should only be done if it is a medical neccassity.
@createdequalfilms By 11 weeks in my opinion you have had enough time to make a decision, and all though that is my belief, I don't force my belief on to other ppl. Unlike some.
@Lady0Pamela Pamela, I'm pleased to see you still here fighting the good fight. I'm proud of you, lady! Actually, what you are doing can be more appropriately called fighting the sane and reasonable fight.
@389GTO65 Hey it's even worse then that, this is just a fashion show put on by kids using condoms to make clothes to promote safe sex, it has nothing to do with abortion, they are merely harrassing the family and friends of students who are showcasing all because they say it is put on by the big bad planned parenthood of abortion. The sad thing is these pro-lifers have like five kids each and beat their ideas into the kids so eventually there will be more of them then there are of us.
@Lady0Pamela ...and "safe sex" usually ends up in more pregnancies which lead to more abortions. According to PP's research arm (Guttmacher Institute), 46% of women who had abortion were using a contraceptive the same month they got pregnant. So why would the largest abortion provider in the U.S. want to encourage contraceptives if they know it leads to more pregnancies, abortions. One word...MONEY.
@redhairedflare And unsafe sex ends in even more unplanned/unwanted pregnancies. Everyone tries to teach their kids abstinence, but that doesn't mean the teens will do it. It's like trying to warn you daughter about wandering around at night by herself, you would want her to know self defense, may not save her life but gives her a fighting chance, since she probably isn't going to listen to you anyways. Contraceptives especially used correctly clearly lead to less pregnancies.
@Lady0Pamela Well, according to Guttmacher that is not the case, it is contraceptive use that leads to more abortions. So who will you believe, you stand with PP but you won't even trust their own statistics? I would post the link to the brief but it won't let me.
@redhairedflare I can't trust statistics, they are based off of what ppl say. I know too many times a woman feels bad going in for her abortion and fully believe they would fib and claim they were on birth control when they weren't. It's not like those statistics go into how many used them wrong, condoms broke, didn't take their pill regularly, or how many pregnancies were avoided by those who used birth control.
@Lady0Pamela Sorry I looked at the Guttmacher brief wrong. 54% of those who had abortions were using contraceptives within the same month they got pregnant. The 46% is from those who were not using contraceptive and got pregnant and had an abortion. My bad.
@redhairedflare And that is believing those who provided information were telling the truth and not just claiming they forgot to use the birth control or forgot to use it correctly. Or took antibiotics and just weren't told that it would null and void their pill, etc. That is a lot of trust of people going into have an abortion to be honest.
@389GTO65 Romans 5:12-21. All humankind has sinned except Jesus Christ. We all will die for our sin. Me and yes you too. Why am I simple minded? Because I don't go to your gym? Abortion is wrong, it kills children, and is murdering a totally defenseless human being. you are lacking details and are resorting to derogatory personal attacks, again. I am not American. So you are party true there. Jesus saves and forgives.
@389GTO65 No malice in defending the most innocent of all humanity. (St. Mathew 5:10) Search your heart. Your degradation, malice and self indulgence is ripe. It makes you feel better about yourself doesn't it? You only know how to attack, and since you can't address ideas you attack decent people of extreme integrity. You present no honor, compassion, honesty, humility, spirituality, sacrifice or justice on any issues regarding abortion and the conduct of these officers. (Romans 2:1-11)
@389GTO65 Are you sure you aren't wining too? You seem to be trolling this post with only one purpose and strong intent to spew your malicious hate against religion and those who dare to think differently than yourself. Why are you so angry?
@flu42o If that is trolling then everyone is trolling. The religious ae where hating on ppl because they dare to the differently then them, and they are all angry calling ppl murderers, baby killers, and condemning them to hell.
What friken officer treats another officer like that?? WTH??? And if the one fella was off duty working for this PP function, why was he in uniform?? That would never be allowed in other cities???
He is never in a police uniform because he is a detective. He had introduced himself and did have his badge on him. (It shows that in the video). Det. Dickinson acted professionally and did nothing in the slightest to provoke this officer. The officer was in fact, aggitated before the detective arrived. That is why help was called- if Det. Dickinson hadn't come, that officer would have unjustly attacked one of the peaceful pro-life protesters... again, this man was hired by PP afterall...
@CBRsarah You guys personally called him as he has come to your aid before, I never see his badge, the film doesn't start until he the detective is restrained in the corner, who knows what lead up to it. I don't trust you ppl to tell the whole story.
@Lady0Pamela Fair enough. You dont know me so there is no reason to trust what I say. I would just recommend following this case and see where it leads. When Officer Addington is repremanded (maybe even fired) over this, maybe then you will see what this man did was wrong. Det Dickinson is not a "buddy". He has been assigned by the CPD to oversee ALL protest events, whether the issue is animal rights, gay rights, or for the right to life for babies not yet born. Det Dickinson was doing his job.
@CBRsarah Yes fair enough, don't know you can't trust you, your antichoice websites, your anti choice ppl, I guess we will just have to wait and see. However, even if Addington didn't break the law he will probably be fired because the Detective and 20 of you have your statements all in a row, what does he have, just himself.
@Lady0Pamela I am not anti-choice. I am anti-abortion. Just like I am anti-racism, anti-slavery, anti-rape, anti-sexism. All of these are crimes against humanity. Abortion kills a living child, as medicine and science have proven in every text book there is. The question is not "Is there life involved?" the question is "Is the life worth protecting?" We need to stand up & fight for those who are the innocent and defenseless. We can help both mother and baby. Abortion is never the answer.
@CBRsarah So you manage to get abortion outlawed, after your ppl have no more protest to do what will you do for the babies being abandoned into the foster home system? How do you help mother's now when you convince them not to have an abortion?
@Lady0Pamela Many of the women who have abortions repent. People like Norma McCorvey (she was the Roe in Roe V. Wade) and Dr. Bernard Nathensen (founder of NARAL) have repented and become completly pro-life. God is love and God forgives, but if their is no repentence forgivness can't have an effect.
Murdering a child by abortion is always wrong but mosy of the time the greater responsiblity is with those who profit off of the blood of children - many women are victims also.
@MaryHaskell1 Uhm Norma flipped sides not because of right or wrong but because of what at the time offered her the best profit, her whole involvement from the beginning is profit. Say what you will, but remember you don't speak for all of us. This is a for profit war, you just haven't figured it out.
@Lady0Pamela If you have ever listened to Norma she speaks about how the pro-aborts used lies to get the murder of babies made legal. Norma did not want to live with the blood of innocent children on her sould any more.
So Why did Dr. Nathensen have a change of heart - he was getting rich off of killing babies? We all know why, he opened his eyes and his heart to the fact that ripping a child limb from limb is evil and murder.
Dr. Nathensen is in heaven now because he changed.
@MaryHaskell1 Norma who never raised any of the kids she created with any of the men she was with. A girl who made money off of being Roe and when it wasn't profittable she flipped and made money off the other side. A HS dropout at age 14, your going to tell me she isn't profitting off this? Put her 1st child up for adoption, married an abusive man, became lesbian. lost her 2nd daughter to her drunk mom, wanted to abort her 3rd, she only went str8 to make money as a preacher.
@MaryHaskell1 Except there is no heaven, ppl just think he is there. Norma jumps on whatever side is profittable, first it was pro choice, then it was prolife. Nathansen was just afraid of death, money can't change death and some people just need more then an end.
@Lady0Pamela No, Norma is not in it for the money she gave up a good paying job a PP to become pro-life. I noticed you completly skipped my question about Dr. Nathenson who was making millions killing babies and gave it all up because his heart became sick of murdering babies. their are a lot of other abortionists who have had conversions.
A person can only cut the heads off of so many babies when they either are lost to evil forever or have to change to save their sanity and soul.
@MaryHaskell1 Sure she just ask you guys to pay 5 dollars or more for her crappy book, sure she isn't making money of her "ministry", and sure she isn't making money off her numberous apperances, it may be non-profit, but a non-profit worker can cut whatever salary she wans as long as she isn't making a business profit at the end, lol. And Dr. Nat who got cancer, become christian, not shocking he flipped. He was afraid he would go to hell. I just don't see them as good front runners for either
@Lady0Pamela There were more witnesses than that. People going into the Shadowbox, event planners, etc. There is no conspiracy. I have faith the CPD is proficient and will be thorough in their investigation. Time will tell what happens. Officer Addington was abusing his authority. It is unfortunate, but I am glad it was documented so that justice may be served.
@Lady0Pamela Well, lady Pamela you may not believe in heaven or hell but that doesn't give you the right to crush the skulls of babies in the womb. And by the way, those babies who's lives you throw away will be in heaven........and those who support the murder of babies in the womb will experience for all eternity the pain and suffering they "chose" for these children.
@MaryHaskell1 Well Mary if that is the case why are you stopping abortion, maybe god is using it to sort us all out? Why not have faith in him and let him sort it out, it's not as if you are willing to care of the unborn that will be born after you ban abortion? Sounds like god has his plan, aborted babies in heaven, women and doctors who do/have abortions in hell. So you are kinda fucking with gods test.
According to your own independent news channels on the internet, this was a fashion event put on by PP. Local students made clothes entirely out of condoms. This had nothing to do with abortitons. This was probably just a fun night for the students and families, a fun night you were ruining by your cause. PS the protestors in NY are told to keep moving. Must be so nice to have a cop buddy.
@Lady0Pamela World News Daily reported on this. Its not all pro-life websites. Abc6 picked up on the story & nbc4 possibly doing one. As for the PP fundraiser, I realize ppl might think of it as fun, but we hv to remember this organization advocates for abortion. Mothers should not have to legal right to end the life of their children. We would think its horrible when a mother kills her 4 mo old born child, why is it somehow acceptable she pays someone to kill her 4 month old preborn child?
@CBRsarah The article at WND is written by Dave Tombers, who is all over the internet doing prolife angled freelance writing, this to me doesn't make him a credible third party especially since his seems to be the only article out there, word for word they all match and only show one side, yours.
@CBRsarah I believe that a woman should only terminate up to three months, that it is her choice, not ours. it is rarely legal to have an abortion after the three months such as a four month unless the mothers life is at risk or the baby is dying or in pain in utero.
As a person who was on the sidewalk watching this happen, I have to make a few things clear: the protesters were peaceful and had a right to be there. The officer hired by PP began harrassing and threatning the protesters, therefore a call was made to request that another officer was sent to protect all involved from officer #1. When Det. Dickinson showed up, he informed Officer Addington of the law to ensure freedom of speech. That's when the officer flipped out and assaulted the detective.
@flu42o You aren't voted down to silence or hide your comments I can still see them, you are merely voted down because more ppl don't like what you say so they give you a thumbs down.
I think poor Officer Addington is tormented by too many demons, likely due to his work for Planned Parenthood. The guy is not in full control of himself.
So thankful for those who are obedient to God's call to 'expose the unfruitful deeds of darkness'. It is an encouragement in these wicked days to see people who have mercy on helpless, innocent little babies. Shame on that bully officer for assaulting that detective!
Addington is an absolute idiot!! As soon as the man told Jack that he was a detective he should have let go. Actually he shouldn't have been touching him AT ALL. People like Addington MAKE ME SICK!!!! I hope the detective presses criminal charges againts the "cop" which he doesn't deserve to be called. Then the next moron who showed up didn't separate the two!!!! Part 1of2
What is the world coming to, fat, lazy cops attacking OTHER COPS?!? ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? There must be something wrong with Addington's head to do that to another cop. You see in movies how cops are fat and lazy and LOVE EATING DONUTS. This is a PERFECT description of Addington. -To Jack Addington See you in the UNEMPLOYMENT LINE moron. Part 2 of 2
Don't give him a slap on the wrist....fire him. Off addington has clearly lost his mind trying to arrest another Officer for doing his job. We need to monitor how the City handles this violation of civil rights.
I certainly hope that the special duty officer gets everything he has coming to him. Peaceful protests are allowed under our amendment rights as citizens of the United States. What he was trying to do to stop peaceful protesting was wrong. It was also very unprofessional of him to treat another officer which such a lack of respect.
Fantastic video good job. Unreal, as if special duty makes you superior to any other officer. Ole Jack Addington is mostly likely looking at a suspension. When the detective identified himself as a columbus police officer, Jack should have got his big fat hands off him... period. Columbus has no room for shitty cops.
Oh amazing so a security guard all of a sudden can't hold someone for tresspassing. You guys can do whatever you want. He isn't being beat up he is being held till police show up while he the "detective" claims he is on official business. You can't tresspass, it's against the law. Those women deserve better then you yelling at them when they enter the building, but you guys don't care about them, or laws... Preborn your good, preschool your screwed.
@ChristiansofAsia Abortion is not murder, conservative prick who doesn't have the right to force views on others. If all you prolifers went to work to protect living children maybe we would have harsher laws against pedophiles, but you probably don't want them murdered (death penalty) either.
Point #1 pro-lifers ARE protecting children that are living. before each of us were born, we were still LIVING. just in a different location- inside each of our mothers.
Point #2 comparing innocent defenseless babies to pedophiles is hardly fair. NOT the same thing. babies have never done anything to anyone to deserve death.
@CBRsarah I mean children who have already been born, children who everyday of their lives are being abused. Why aren't you protecting them first? Maybe if you could fix the problems less ppl would be likely to have an abortion and more likely to trust adoptions. So are you for the death penalty of pedophiles? Animals don't always do something but we put them to sleep, we see it as humane. Can you not understand the reasons women have abortions? Or are you so dumb to think they do it as bc?
WOW!!!!! That PP security guard was TOTALLY in the WRONG!!!!!! He acts like he's a police officer rather than a security guard!!!! Good for the pro-lifer yelling at him to let go of him, but at the same time, NOT getting himself in trouble by hitting/kicking the security guard even tho the security guard TOTALLY DESERVED IT!!!!!!
@allebas11 The security guard was an off duty cop on special assignment, we are not even sure if the dectective was on duty at the time. The only ones reporting on the story are prolife websites and they will not tell you both sides of the story.
@Lady0Pamela The Columbus Police confirmed Det. Dickinson was on duty at the time. There are several sites reporting this story- not just pro-life ones. Also, there were more than 20 witnesses to the assault and I've heard they all tell the same story... Det. Dickinson came to keep all people involved safe- what he got for that was being pinned on a corner.
@CBRsarah I searched the internet and only saw the article on prolife websites. None from actual news sources. 20 prolife witnesses all that would put themselves in the favorable posistion. At least you accurately used the pinned on a corner, most say that his being restrained was an assault.
@MaggieSullivan60 You're quite obviously a delusional idiot. First of all, Officer Addington is not a member of PP, and was just a hired security man. Nowhere is it stated, nor can we assume, that his views are pro-abortion. He was there for one reason: Making a little extra cash.
More importantly, a person from the side of the debate responsible for Dr. Tiller's murder and countless clinic bombing murders and terrorist threats thereof has absolutely no right to accuse anyone of thuggery.
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@Bluesman63 Wow, just earning a little extra cash!!!!!! Working for people who murder babies for a living is not "earning a little extra cash" it selling you soul for 30 pieces of silver but what your really getting is an eternity in hell for helping people who murder babies.
All murder is wrong - no matter if it's the half dozen abortionists who have been murdered or the millions of babies who's murder you support by being pro-choice to murder children.
@MaryHaskell1 At last check, abortion, as tragic as each one is, is still 100% LEGAL in the United States of America. Only an anti-abortion terrorist supporter like you would be so hypocritical as to state that "all murder is wrong" while simultaneously misrepresenting abortion as murder and minimizing the number and the importance of those killed in clinic bombings and outright assassinations in the name of your cause.
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@Bluesman63 Assassinations are hateful, anti-life, Satanic acts constituting murder and is clearly contrary to Christian theology. It is not done in the cause of Pro-Life supporters because it is anti-life, it too is done in the cause of evil, hate, and selfishness. You obviously don't know much about what it means to be Pro-Life or a Christian. Seek Jesus.
@Bluesman63 And your next check will be that it is legal to arrest Christians, throw them in jail, and throw away the key. Actually, the Bible says it will be legal to chop off their heads in the Tribulation to come. It was legal to murder and torture Jews in Europe under the rulership of the popes, and of couse during the Holocaust. But then, it WAS legal so everyone should just stop talking about it and forget it.
@julieification OK fine, tell ya what, Julie: I'll continue to base my comments on reason, intelligence, and the rule of law as it stands in the United States of America in the 21st century. You go ahead and base your comments on fear mongering from your book of ancient myths and superstitions and the actions of war criminals, religious fanatics, and barbarians through history.
@julieification You know what I can't stand about your bible, it's like a self fullfilling profecy. You are all more like your jealous hateful god, then your loving nice Jesus. You all can't wait for the end of the world that you all are literally trying to make fiction a reality. It's so sad.
Pamela- Numbers 9:12 "They must not leave any of it (the sacrificial lamb) until morning or break any of its bones." None of Jesus' bones were broken but the 2 criminals on either side of Him were. How is this self fulfilling? Psalms 22:18 "They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture." This is exactly what the Roman guards did. (Matthew 27:35). Your real problem with the Bible is that it says there is a God who judges sin. But Jesus Christ is the only remedy for that.
@julieification To those of us who base our philosophies on modern science, enlightenment, and reason, there is nothing more pathetic than the desperate sputtering and flailing of deluded ideologues and fools who steadfastly refuse to give up their dedication to the pronouncements of their imaginary zombie friend.
@julieification Guess you can't understand what I said, Revelations was written long ago and you ppl have been looking for the signs since then and when they don't happen quick enough for you, well you all make them happen thus a self fulfilling prophecy.
@Lady0Pamela So tell me. How can I make Jesus take me up into the clouds? How can I make the antichrist appear on the world scene to bring about a one world govt and currency? The Bible prophesied these events. By the way, how could I have made the Jews come back to their land after being mostly dispersed since 70 AD as was foretold by the prophets of the Scriptures?
@julieification Seriously? You can't make Jesus take you into the clouds it ain't ever happening no matter how many dates some idget sets. One world order and trying to make us all on the same currency is happening, where do you think they got the idea for it from? The Jews going back to Israel, no you didn't make them, they are going cause the bible told them so. Self fulfilling prophecies. All this is happening cause since 70 AD some idget wrote it.
@Lady0Pamela One of these days "aliens" will be blamed for my disappearance and millions of others. Did you know that Jesus Christ has appeard to MANY muslims in muslim lands? In Saudi Arabia 5000+ exmuslims are meeting in a cave for their church gatherings. Jesus led them to Himself. Jesus Christ has appeared to me and one of my daughers. You need to get on the "ARK", Jesus Christ. The flood is coming.
@julieification It's stuff like this that make you all sound crazy. Christians and more have been saying this bs for thousands of years and they all believe it will happen in their lifetimes till they die. Why out of all the Christians I know does Jesus show himself to you and your daughter? What makes the two of you special? Except for maybe you wanted to see him and you made yourself believe it, seeing him as he looks in his drawings. Were you able to ask him anything? I am dying to know?
@Lady0Pamela Many muslims have had visions of Jesus Christ and subsequently became Christians. In Saudi Arabia over 5000 arabs meet secretly in a cave. Many of them were believers in Jesus because He had appeared to them.
@julieification What does this have to do with that? Is this your way of avoiding my questions... Oh muslims are turning to Jesus, ppl who once believed in Allah are your proof god exist?
@Lady0Pamela I have not avoided any questions. Ask on. As for allah, yes, people are turning away from him and turning to Jesus Christ. But they are paying a dear price: their lives, their homes, their children, their jobs, etc. are all fair game in muslim lands when you turn away from allah. Jesus said "if they hate Me, they will hate you. (believers)."
@Lady0Pamela Hi! I got an E-mail notification that you had replied to my comment but it was apparently removed before I was able to get to this video page. I'm very sorry that happened as I value every opinion. If you see this comment, please re-post, or if you like, you can simply visit my channel and send me a personal message through there. Peace!
@Bluesman63 Hey Blueman, I really enjoy your comments, I meant to comment to Mary but accidently hit your comment to reply, and then upon cancelling I hit post and it was just a comment with your name in it so I removed it. Have a good day.
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@Bluesman63 Intolerant hate speech and derogatory name calling on ideologues, peoples with extreme courage peacefully defending the most innocent in our society, instead of addressing ideologies on ethics and morality only undermines your argument. In fact, you sir, are a hypocrite with no argument, a bigot to state peaceful users here have no right to free speech when in fact your hate speech against Christians clearly uses that same fundamental freedom of speech. I will pray for you.
@flu42o The beauty of that great double-edged sword of freedom of speech is that just as the original poster had every right to indulge in "intolerant hate speech" in casting all pro-choice people as "thugs" based on the actions of this one police officer, I have every right to call her out as a "delusional idiot".
There is nothing I have posted here that could even remotely be seen by any reasonable person as hate speech against Christians. Pray for your own soul, I'm doing just fine.
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@Bluesman63 Killing Jews was LEGAL, owning and killing a slave was Legal - that doesen't make it right.
Abortion is murder, the crushing of a persons skull in the womb and the dismemberment of their body in the womb is a grossly immoral, depraved, and vicious form of murder.
Yes the killing a few abortion doctors who murdered these babies is wrong - but it's can't compare to the murder of 50 million babies.
Murdering anyone, baby in the womb or abortionist, is wrong.
@YesYouNeedJesus Nope don't need Jesus, but I woudln't mind him coming and taking all his people right now. Really getting tired of their hate, judgement, self rightous behavior,etc.
@YesYouNeedJesus Remember what is said, judge lest thee be judged, well you judged, now everyone can judge you. You can't be judgemental, hateful and self rightous and not expect to be treated the same. I agree I am very proud to be hateful of evil and you ppl are pure evil.
@YesYouNeedJesus Supposedly the book is true to you, but you ppl don't know your bible and you definitly don't follow it. The bible has some good stories, and good moral beliefs in some of it. However, you ppl never really follow the parts you don't want to. I am just glad you ppl believe in it because clearly your only standard for good and descent living comes from the book and not your hearts. Without the bible you ppl would run around doing horrible things.
Looks like Det Dickinson has gone rogue and joined the forces of evil.
MrHaggis03 1 month ago
Det Dickinson was on duty that night. His responsibilities are to ensure protesters have their first ammendment rights. Ensuring that everyone is safe and informing the other on-duty police officer of this, WAS his job. If anyone's personal beliefs got in the way of being professional, it was Officer Addington.... and the CPD agrees. He is currently sitting behind a desk until further notice.
CBRsarah 1 month ago
This video isn’t about any of the issues people keep bringing up. It is about a man who was hired to do a job. A CPD officer chose to pick up a few special duty hours. He doesn’t care who hired him. It is a job. He is a man who puts his life on the line for people every day. He doesn’t care who you are or what you believe. He is there to help when he is called. Officer Addington did the right thing. Shame on that detective for putting his personal beliefs ahead of his professional boundaries.
BleedScarletandGray1 3 months ago
This thug is a dishonor to the uniform. The detective is a man of valour, protecting life.
reginaDexant 3 months ago
@SarahP2016, What ever made you think I wanted to talk to you, anyway? But you'll likely find out how delusional I am during the next few years.
EternalAnachronism 4 months ago
@SarahP2016, No, that would be a waste of time. I'm not really worried about it, since our civilization is about to collapse. And once it does, we'll see a reordering of humanity. You have no idea what's coming.
EternalAnachronism 4 months ago
@SarahP2016, Yes, so did the Nazis. The Germans, as you may know, were very rules oriented. And now we know that laws that are not "morally right" -- that is, immoral -- are fine with you. Thanks for telling the world.
EternalAnachronism 4 months ago
@SarahP2016, I'll also mention that it seems you've issued a tacit admission of your position's intellectual vacuity. After all, if all you can do is say that the "law" is on your side -- which is merely stating the obvious -- it indicates that you don't really have an argument. "Might makes right...."
You would have made a fine Nazi.
EternalAnachronism 4 months ago
@SarahP2016. Yes, the "law" (man's) is on your side, just as it was on the Nazis' side in 1936 Germany and on slave-owners' side in 1847 Virginia. So you don't have much to brag about there. However, you will never be on the side of right, and nothing you can do or say will change that. By the way, if you are a man, it's fitting that you have a "Sarah" handle. It explains much.
EternalAnachronism 4 months ago
The title of this video is completely misleading. We have no idea what happened before you started filming this. What I see is a police officer (who seems to have been hired to wok at this event, as is the norm in Columbus) restrain a plain-clothed man (who is wearing a badge, so I can be assume him to be a police officer too).
The plain-clothed man is ON the property and is being told he is trespassing. Until you can show proof that the man was NOT actually trespassing, your video is crap.
2traveladdicted 4 months ago
If you are going to have an opinion about abortion, we should first know what it is. Has any of you seen one? Do you know what is done to the mother? What is put in those bio hazard bags? If you have seen an ultrasound, you know what is put in those bags. Women are pregnant with offspring. Tiny babies. All of us posting comments on here were once those tiny babies, each unique and still ourselves- just smaller and younger, thats it. Go to abortionNO's website to see a real abortion in progress..
CBRsarah 4 months ago
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CBRsarah 4 months ago
"Pro-choice people will not-indeed, cannot-listen to reason. Pro-choice people are insane and will not convert to reason-they will attempt to convert reason."
-Peter Kreeft
redhairedflare 4 months ago
@redhairedflare So according to you and whoever this Kreeft asshole is, all pro-choice people are not only "murderers" and "baby killers", but each and every one of them is now insane.
Yup, you truly are "living to a higher standard" than everybody else, not only here on YouTube, but in the entire world. Hypocritical much?
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@redhairedflare Classy.
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redhairedflare 4 months ago
There is only one way to steer clear of "unplanned" pregnancies and therefore reduce abortions (which PP claims to do). That is by abstinence, but we treat our young people as if they are dogs unable to control themselves. At the same time we tell them don't drive until your 16, don't drink, don't smoke. However, the most intimate, sacred, act of sex is treated as a party favor by "comp. sex" proponents. What a crime we are commiting to our young people. Sex=babies, that's the natural end of it.
redhairedflare 4 months ago
@redhairedflare Are you abstinant?
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@Lady0Pamela Kind of a personal question but yes I am, I am not married. I figure if a guy really loves me he will prove it to me by being abstinant himself until marriage. That way nether of us are using each other solely for sexual kicks.
redhairedflare 4 months ago
@redhairedflare Well you sometimes have to answer personal questions when you insert yourself in others personal lives. I am glad to hear that you live what you preach, but as you said you are not married, and you may be single, which kinda makes it easy to be abstinant. However, your going to have a hard time finding that abstinant virgin guy to partner with in this day and age. So good luck but it doesn't work for everyone.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@Lady0Pamela So if a woman was to kill her two year old and I stepped in and told her that what she was doing was wrong, that their are other options, then I would I be intruding in on her personal life? BTW, I believe if a man is worth spending the rest of my life with, then he won't use me as a sexual object, nor I him. This is what happens when we lose the message of what sex is really about: babies and bonding.
redhairedflare 4 months ago
@redhairedflare You ppl always go to the weirdest extreme's. We all agree killing a child is wrong, that has nothing to do with aborting a fetus. Wow so you believe that making love with someone you love is being used? So do you also tell him that when you marry, you don't plan on being used sexually? That you will only have sex with him during marriage to have babies.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@Lady0Pamela Aborting a fetus is wrong because it is a child. The pro-life community likes to provide women with other options besides killing her child, such as those who promote promiscuity like to provide young people the option of having s** without restrain. As for s** I believe that if a man truly loves me then he will show his commitment to me beforehand, by waiting until matrimony. There is nothing wrong with sex when used in the right context (for babies AND bonding w/in matrimony).
redhairedflare 4 months ago
@redhairedflare Are you really such a prissy tight-assed little arrested development child that you can't quite bring yourself to type in the word "sex" in several instances here? Sex sex SEX sex sex SEX FUN fun DIRTY sex SEX SEX. See, that wasn't so bad now, was it?
Bluesman63 4 months ago
@Bluesman63 Wow, thanks for the classyness. First of all I figured You Tube might have some decency rules against saying the word. Second, I try to make it PG, b/c anyone can be reading this, including children.
redhairedflare 4 months ago
@redhairedflare lol, what are you, new here? I find it very hard to believe that you've never scrolled around well, just about any YouTube comment page and seen the extreme profanity and vulgarity used by many people. True class and consideration are as utterly absent here as they have become in society as a whole. What I posted was very mild in comparison.
Bluesman63 4 months ago
@Bluesman63 Well I like to live to a higher standard than the average YouTube commentor. Just because others act with no class or consideration does not mean we should. I wouldn't talke to a person like that face to face would you?
redhairedflare 4 months ago
@redhairedflare If you are truly one concerned with restoring civility and class to public discourse, it seems to me that a very appropriate first step in that endeavor would be to no longer align yourself with a group of people intent on calling all pro-choicers "baby killers" or "child murderers", wouldn't you agree?
Bluesman63 4 months ago
@Bluesman63, Well, they certainly do, in the least, provide aid and comfort (not to mention votes) to murderers. You see, the problem you have is that you can't change the truth. Abortion is the murder of an unborn child in the womb, and you support it. The problem is that, at the end of the day, pro-abortion folks don't really have respect for life.
EternalAnachronism 4 months ago
@EternalAnachronism You see, the problem you have is that you can't change the truth. And the truth is, and try to stay with me here: In the eyes of a little thing called THE LAW, abortion is not considered murder, while things like, you know, bombing women's clinics and terroristic threats against clinic staff and patients are. Such are many pro-lifers' ideas of "respect for life", hypocrite. At the end of the day, all your whining will never change THE LAW. Class over - Dismissed, idiot!
Bluesman63 4 months ago
@Bluesman63, Yes, child, it's the truth that the law is what you say it is. It's also the truth that the law is at variance with morality in this case. And it's also the truth that no matter what you do, no matter how much you stamp your foot, you won't be able to change the fact that you are gravely in error and are embracing immorality. Lastly, it is a truth that your lack of virtue is making you unhappy. As Aristotle said, and I'm paraphrasing, living a moral life is necessary for happiness.
EternalAnachronism 4 months ago
@redhairedflare The prolife community doesn't provide other options or assitance that isn't already out there and taken into consideration. The only thing they try to do is make a woman feel bad about herself and call her a murderer, using emotional blackmail in hopes she complies to their controlling wishes. No one is trying to tell kids to go fuck their brains out, they are simply saying if you are going to do it, try to do it with a condom. Sex is just fun, good luck trying to find your guy.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@redhairedflare Again you didn't answer my question, will you only have sex with your spouse when you want to have a child or do you plan on being one of those women popping out kids like puppies, having way more then you can afford or take care of merely because you can produce them? Or do you only plan on having sex with him everyonce in a while and then refusing him when you don't want to have any more kids?
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
The fact is that Planned Parenthood is the largest abortion provider in this country (I heard recently they do 25% off all abortions in the U.S.). @389GTO65 Science once also "proved" that black people and Jews were less human too. You can see the boards in the footage, there are pictures of whole babies and babies ripped apart by abortion. It very clearly is not "pieces of conception" as PP likes to explain it, but pre-born children with hands, feet, legs, eyes, etc.
redhairedflare 4 months ago
@redhairedflare Those are pictures of late term abortions, so yes they look more like babies the size of quarters. Late term abortions are only supposed to happen when it has a medical reason to it; ie to save the mothers life or to end the suffering of a baby. I love how they never mention that those photos are late term abortion. A fetus at six weeks kinda looks like a devolping frog. 25% that isn't even 50% of all abortions, how are they the largest provider?
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@Lady0Pamela No, most of them were of first trimester babies, six, eleven, weeks. I would know I was holding them.
redhairedflare 4 months ago
@redhairedflare Just cause you were holding the pictures doesn't mean you know the time frame the fetus was aborted. As I said the six week fetus doesn't have identifiable hands or feet.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@Lady0Pamela You should look at the footage again, of the boards we were holding, and then look up fetal development. I think we had only one board with an preborn child on it older than 11 weeks.
redhairedflare 4 months ago
@redhairedflare The video doesn't show the boards you were holding. CDC reported that 26% of abortions in the United States were known to have been obtained at less than 6 weeks' gestation, 18% at 7 weeks, 15% at 8 weeks, 4.1% at 16 through 20 weeks and 1.4% at more than 21 weeks. Most women have the abortion done before 10 weeks. I think if you can't make your mind up by then you should just have the baby or adopt it out. 11 weeks and up should only be done if it is a medical neccassity.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@Lady0Pamela You can see the boards here: createdequal(dot)net/abortion-signs
Out of curiosity, why do you think 11 weeks and up should only be done for medical necessity?
createdequalfilms 4 months ago
@createdequalfilms By 11 weeks in my opinion you have had enough time to make a decision, and all though that is my belief, I don't force my belief on to other ppl. Unlike some.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@Lady0Pamela Pamela, I'm pleased to see you still here fighting the good fight. I'm proud of you, lady! Actually, what you are doing can be more appropriately called fighting the sane and reasonable fight.
Bluesman63 4 months ago
@Bluesman63 Good to see you giving it back to them to, keep it up, and thanks.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@389GTO65 Hey it's even worse then that, this is just a fashion show put on by kids using condoms to make clothes to promote safe sex, it has nothing to do with abortion, they are merely harrassing the family and friends of students who are showcasing all because they say it is put on by the big bad planned parenthood of abortion. The sad thing is these pro-lifers have like five kids each and beat their ideas into the kids so eventually there will be more of them then there are of us.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@Lady0Pamela ...and "safe sex" usually ends up in more pregnancies which lead to more abortions. According to PP's research arm (Guttmacher Institute), 46% of women who had abortion were using a contraceptive the same month they got pregnant. So why would the largest abortion provider in the U.S. want to encourage contraceptives if they know it leads to more pregnancies, abortions. One word...MONEY.
redhairedflare 4 months ago
@redhairedflare And unsafe sex ends in even more unplanned/unwanted pregnancies. Everyone tries to teach their kids abstinence, but that doesn't mean the teens will do it. It's like trying to warn you daughter about wandering around at night by herself, you would want her to know self defense, may not save her life but gives her a fighting chance, since she probably isn't going to listen to you anyways. Contraceptives especially used correctly clearly lead to less pregnancies.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@Lady0Pamela Well, according to Guttmacher that is not the case, it is contraceptive use that leads to more abortions. So who will you believe, you stand with PP but you won't even trust their own statistics? I would post the link to the brief but it won't let me.
redhairedflare 4 months ago
@redhairedflare I can't trust statistics, they are based off of what ppl say. I know too many times a woman feels bad going in for her abortion and fully believe they would fib and claim they were on birth control when they weren't. It's not like those statistics go into how many used them wrong, condoms broke, didn't take their pill regularly, or how many pregnancies were avoided by those who used birth control.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@Lady0Pamela Sorry I looked at the Guttmacher brief wrong. 54% of those who had abortions were using contraceptives within the same month they got pregnant. The 46% is from those who were not using contraceptive and got pregnant and had an abortion. My bad.
redhairedflare 4 months ago
@redhairedflare And that is believing those who provided information were telling the truth and not just claiming they forgot to use the birth control or forgot to use it correctly. Or took antibiotics and just weren't told that it would null and void their pill, etc. That is a lot of trust of people going into have an abortion to be honest.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
They also have full footage of this incident (about 13 min long)
redhairedflare 4 months ago
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@389GTO65 Romans 5:12-21. All humankind has sinned except Jesus Christ. We all will die for our sin. Me and yes you too. Why am I simple minded? Because I don't go to your gym? Abortion is wrong, it kills children, and is murdering a totally defenseless human being. you are lacking details and are resorting to derogatory personal attacks, again. I am not American. So you are party true there. Jesus saves and forgives.
flu42o 4 months ago
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flu42o 4 months ago
Uniform 01 - Special Duty 00
Why is this detective allowed to work this event and these whining women are creating a bigger problem by making silly 911 calls.
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flu42o 4 months ago
@389GTO65 What millions? What commission? You are vague on details and ripe with hate as usual.
flu42o 4 months ago
@389GTO65 No malice in defending the most innocent of all humanity. (St. Mathew 5:10) Search your heart. Your degradation, malice and self indulgence is ripe. It makes you feel better about yourself doesn't it? You only know how to attack, and since you can't address ideas you attack decent people of extreme integrity. You present no honor, compassion, honesty, humility, spirituality, sacrifice or justice on any issues regarding abortion and the conduct of these officers. (Romans 2:1-11)
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flu42o 4 months ago
@389GTO65 So you definitely are trolling and you definitely seem malicious in all intents. I'm not at all convinced you are not angry too.
flu42o 4 months ago
Menstrual discharge is what the fighting is all about here folks.
Because when women miscarriage they are not considered murderers. Men have no idea whether Police or not.
laurafrieda1911 4 months ago
@389GTO65 Are you sure you aren't wining too? You seem to be trolling this post with only one purpose and strong intent to spew your malicious hate against religion and those who dare to think differently than yourself. Why are you so angry?
flu42o 4 months ago
@flu42o If that is trolling then everyone is trolling. The religious ae where hating on ppl because they dare to the differently then them, and they are all angry calling ppl murderers, baby killers, and condemning them to hell.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
If I was Addington's CO, I would want his badge and firearm...
Yankeegator 4 months ago
What friken officer treats another officer like that?? WTH??? And if the one fella was off duty working for this PP function, why was he in uniform?? That would never be allowed in other cities???
Yankeegator 4 months ago
Check out 180movie.com!
wpuymac 4 months ago
Fire Officer Addington
PermsWorm 4 months ago
He is never in a police uniform because he is a detective. He had introduced himself and did have his badge on him. (It shows that in the video). Det. Dickinson acted professionally and did nothing in the slightest to provoke this officer. The officer was in fact, aggitated before the detective arrived. That is why help was called- if Det. Dickinson hadn't come, that officer would have unjustly attacked one of the peaceful pro-life protesters... again, this man was hired by PP afterall...
CBRsarah 4 months ago
@CBRsarah You guys personally called him as he has come to your aid before, I never see his badge, the film doesn't start until he the detective is restrained in the corner, who knows what lead up to it. I don't trust you ppl to tell the whole story.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@Lady0Pamela Fair enough. You dont know me so there is no reason to trust what I say. I would just recommend following this case and see where it leads. When Officer Addington is repremanded (maybe even fired) over this, maybe then you will see what this man did was wrong. Det Dickinson is not a "buddy". He has been assigned by the CPD to oversee ALL protest events, whether the issue is animal rights, gay rights, or for the right to life for babies not yet born. Det Dickinson was doing his job.
CBRsarah 4 months ago
@CBRsarah Yes fair enough, don't know you can't trust you, your antichoice websites, your anti choice ppl, I guess we will just have to wait and see. However, even if Addington didn't break the law he will probably be fired because the Detective and 20 of you have your statements all in a row, what does he have, just himself.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@Lady0Pamela I am not anti-choice. I am anti-abortion. Just like I am anti-racism, anti-slavery, anti-rape, anti-sexism. All of these are crimes against humanity. Abortion kills a living child, as medicine and science have proven in every text book there is. The question is not "Is there life involved?" the question is "Is the life worth protecting?" We need to stand up & fight for those who are the innocent and defenseless. We can help both mother and baby. Abortion is never the answer.
CBRsarah 4 months ago
@CBRsarah So you manage to get abortion outlawed, after your ppl have no more protest to do what will you do for the babies being abandoned into the foster home system? How do you help mother's now when you convince them not to have an abortion?
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@Lady0Pamela Many of the women who have abortions repent. People like Norma McCorvey (she was the Roe in Roe V. Wade) and Dr. Bernard Nathensen (founder of NARAL) have repented and become completly pro-life. God is love and God forgives, but if their is no repentence forgivness can't have an effect.
Murdering a child by abortion is always wrong but mosy of the time the greater responsiblity is with those who profit off of the blood of children - many women are victims also.
MaryHaskell1 4 months ago
@MaryHaskell1 Uhm Norma flipped sides not because of right or wrong but because of what at the time offered her the best profit, her whole involvement from the beginning is profit. Say what you will, but remember you don't speak for all of us. This is a for profit war, you just haven't figured it out.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@Lady0Pamela If you have ever listened to Norma she speaks about how the pro-aborts used lies to get the murder of babies made legal. Norma did not want to live with the blood of innocent children on her sould any more.
So Why did Dr. Nathensen have a change of heart - he was getting rich off of killing babies? We all know why, he opened his eyes and his heart to the fact that ripping a child limb from limb is evil and murder.
Dr. Nathensen is in heaven now because he changed.
MaryHaskell1 4 months ago
@MaryHaskell1 Norma who never raised any of the kids she created with any of the men she was with. A girl who made money off of being Roe and when it wasn't profittable she flipped and made money off the other side. A HS dropout at age 14, your going to tell me she isn't profitting off this? Put her 1st child up for adoption, married an abusive man, became lesbian. lost her 2nd daughter to her drunk mom, wanted to abort her 3rd, she only went str8 to make money as a preacher.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@MaryHaskell1 Except there is no heaven, ppl just think he is there. Norma jumps on whatever side is profittable, first it was pro choice, then it was prolife. Nathansen was just afraid of death, money can't change death and some people just need more then an end.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@Lady0Pamela No, Norma is not in it for the money she gave up a good paying job a PP to become pro-life. I noticed you completly skipped my question about Dr. Nathenson who was making millions killing babies and gave it all up because his heart became sick of murdering babies. their are a lot of other abortionists who have had conversions.
A person can only cut the heads off of so many babies when they either are lost to evil forever or have to change to save their sanity and soul.
MaryHaskell1 4 months ago
@MaryHaskell1 Sure she just ask you guys to pay 5 dollars or more for her crappy book, sure she isn't making money of her "ministry", and sure she isn't making money off her numberous apperances, it may be non-profit, but a non-profit worker can cut whatever salary she wans as long as she isn't making a business profit at the end, lol. And Dr. Nat who got cancer, become christian, not shocking he flipped. He was afraid he would go to hell. I just don't see them as good front runners for either
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@Lady0Pamela There were more witnesses than that. People going into the Shadowbox, event planners, etc. There is no conspiracy. I have faith the CPD is proficient and will be thorough in their investigation. Time will tell what happens. Officer Addington was abusing his authority. It is unfortunate, but I am glad it was documented so that justice may be served.
CBRsarah 4 months ago
@CBRsarah We will just have to wait and see.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@Lady0Pamela Well, lady Pamela you may not believe in heaven or hell but that doesn't give you the right to crush the skulls of babies in the womb. And by the way, those babies who's lives you throw away will be in heaven........and those who support the murder of babies in the womb will experience for all eternity the pain and suffering they "chose" for these children.
MaryHaskell1 4 months ago
@MaryHaskell1 Well Mary if that is the case why are you stopping abortion, maybe god is using it to sort us all out? Why not have faith in him and let him sort it out, it's not as if you are willing to care of the unborn that will be born after you ban abortion? Sounds like god has his plan, aborted babies in heaven, women and doctors who do/have abortions in hell. So you are kinda fucking with gods test.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago 2
According to your own independent news channels on the internet, this was a fashion event put on by PP. Local students made clothes entirely out of condoms. This had nothing to do with abortitons. This was probably just a fun night for the students and families, a fun night you were ruining by your cause. PS the protestors in NY are told to keep moving. Must be so nice to have a cop buddy.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@Lady0Pamela World News Daily reported on this. Its not all pro-life websites. Abc6 picked up on the story & nbc4 possibly doing one. As for the PP fundraiser, I realize ppl might think of it as fun, but we hv to remember this organization advocates for abortion. Mothers should not have to legal right to end the life of their children. We would think its horrible when a mother kills her 4 mo old born child, why is it somehow acceptable she pays someone to kill her 4 month old preborn child?
CBRsarah 4 months ago
@CBRsarah The article at WND is written by Dave Tombers, who is all over the internet doing prolife angled freelance writing, this to me doesn't make him a credible third party especially since his seems to be the only article out there, word for word they all match and only show one side, yours.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@CBRsarah I believe that a woman should only terminate up to three months, that it is her choice, not ours. it is rarely legal to have an abortion after the three months such as a four month unless the mothers life is at risk or the baby is dying or in pain in utero.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
As a person who was on the sidewalk watching this happen, I have to make a few things clear: the protesters were peaceful and had a right to be there. The officer hired by PP began harrassing and threatning the protesters, therefore a call was made to request that another officer was sent to protect all involved from officer #1. When Det. Dickinson showed up, he informed Officer Addington of the law to ensure freedom of speech. That's when the officer flipped out and assaulted the detective.
CBRsarah 4 months ago
@CBRsarah Bless you. Thank you, very interesting information. Seems we have all been voted down to hide our comments to silence us =/ curious...
flu42o 4 months ago
@flu42o You aren't voted down to silence or hide your comments I can still see them, you are merely voted down because more ppl don't like what you say so they give you a thumbs down.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@CBRsarah Why is he in plan clotthes? Did he show the guard his badge before entering the stairwell?
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@389GTO65 Thank you. You have proved my point. (St. Matthew 5:10)
flu42o 4 months ago
I think poor Officer Addington is tormented by too many demons, likely due to his work for Planned Parenthood. The guy is not in full control of himself.
BillWhatcott 4 months ago
So thankful for those who are obedient to God's call to 'expose the unfruitful deeds of darkness'. It is an encouragement in these wicked days to see people who have mercy on helpless, innocent little babies. Shame on that bully officer for assaulting that detective!
Forlifeandeternity 4 months ago
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CreativeDeepEnd 4 months ago
"Pro-Choice" madness. Feticide, infanticide, genocide, murder of any kind is not a human right, period.
flu42o 4 months ago
Defund Planned Parenthood!
ChristiansofAsia 4 months ago
Addington is an absolute idiot!! As soon as the man told Jack that he was a detective he should have let go. Actually he shouldn't have been touching him AT ALL. People like Addington MAKE ME SICK!!!! I hope the detective presses criminal charges againts the "cop" which he doesn't deserve to be called. Then the next moron who showed up didn't separate the two!!!! Part 1of2
DwightKSchrute18 4 months ago
What is the world coming to, fat, lazy cops attacking OTHER COPS?!? ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? There must be something wrong with Addington's head to do that to another cop. You see in movies how cops are fat and lazy and LOVE EATING DONUTS. This is a PERFECT description of Addington. -To Jack Addington See you in the UNEMPLOYMENT LINE moron. Part 2 of 2
DwightKSchrute18 4 months ago
Don't give him a slap on the wrist....fire him. Off addington has clearly lost his mind trying to arrest another Officer for doing his job. We need to monitor how the City handles this violation of civil rights.
PermsWorm 4 months ago
Dear Columbus PD,
FIRE JACK ADDINGTON
viper259 4 months ago
I certainly hope that the special duty officer gets everything he has coming to him. Peaceful protests are allowed under our amendment rights as citizens of the United States. What he was trying to do to stop peaceful protesting was wrong. It was also very unprofessional of him to treat another officer which such a lack of respect.
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ohiocop1308 4 months ago
by the way, that isn't a security guard, that is a Columbus Police officer on Special Duty ($38/hour I believe).
zt5 4 months ago
Fantastic video good job. Unreal, as if special duty makes you superior to any other officer. Ole Jack Addington is mostly likely looking at a suspension. When the detective identified himself as a columbus police officer, Jack should have got his big fat hands off him... period. Columbus has no room for shitty cops.
zt5 4 months ago 2
and they say we're the bad guys. irony? pot, meet kettle.
riverofdreams1993 4 months ago
Oh amazing so a security guard all of a sudden can't hold someone for tresspassing. You guys can do whatever you want. He isn't being beat up he is being held till police show up while he the "detective" claims he is on official business. You can't tresspass, it's against the law. Those women deserve better then you yelling at them when they enter the building, but you guys don't care about them, or laws... Preborn your good, preschool your screwed.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@Lady0Pamela Abortion is murder, liberal!
ChristiansofAsia 4 months ago
@ChristiansofAsia Abortion is not murder, conservative prick who doesn't have the right to force views on others. If all you prolifers went to work to protect living children maybe we would have harsher laws against pedophiles, but you probably don't want them murdered (death penalty) either.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago 4
Point #1 pro-lifers ARE protecting children that are living. before each of us were born, we were still LIVING. just in a different location- inside each of our mothers.
Point #2 comparing innocent defenseless babies to pedophiles is hardly fair. NOT the same thing. babies have never done anything to anyone to deserve death.
CBRsarah 4 months ago
@CBRsarah I mean children who have already been born, children who everyday of their lives are being abused. Why aren't you protecting them first? Maybe if you could fix the problems less ppl would be likely to have an abortion and more likely to trust adoptions. So are you for the death penalty of pedophiles? Animals don't always do something but we put them to sleep, we see it as humane. Can you not understand the reasons women have abortions? Or are you so dumb to think they do it as bc?
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
Keep up your protests! Stop Planned Parenthood! Abortion kills children.
racehorseinvenice 4 months ago
WOW!!!!! That PP security guard was TOTALLY in the WRONG!!!!!! He acts like he's a police officer rather than a security guard!!!! Good for the pro-lifer yelling at him to let go of him, but at the same time, NOT getting himself in trouble by hitting/kicking the security guard even tho the security guard TOTALLY DESERVED IT!!!!!!
allebas11 4 months ago
@allebas11 The security guard was an off duty cop on special assignment, we are not even sure if the dectective was on duty at the time. The only ones reporting on the story are prolife websites and they will not tell you both sides of the story.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@Lady0Pamela The Columbus Police confirmed Det. Dickinson was on duty at the time. There are several sites reporting this story- not just pro-life ones. Also, there were more than 20 witnesses to the assault and I've heard they all tell the same story... Det. Dickinson came to keep all people involved safe- what he got for that was being pinned on a corner.
CBRsarah 4 months ago
@CBRsarah I searched the internet and only saw the article on prolife websites. None from actual news sources. 20 prolife witnesses all that would put themselves in the favorable posistion. At least you accurately used the pinned on a corner, most say that his being restrained was an assault.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
Pro-abortion thugs....all they know if violence.
MaggieSullivan60 4 months ago
@MaggieSullivan60 You're quite obviously a delusional idiot. First of all, Officer Addington is not a member of PP, and was just a hired security man. Nowhere is it stated, nor can we assume, that his views are pro-abortion. He was there for one reason: Making a little extra cash.
More importantly, a person from the side of the debate responsible for Dr. Tiller's murder and countless clinic bombing murders and terrorist threats thereof has absolutely no right to accuse anyone of thuggery.
Bluesman63 4 months ago 18
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@Bluesman63 Wow, just earning a little extra cash!!!!!! Working for people who murder babies for a living is not "earning a little extra cash" it selling you soul for 30 pieces of silver but what your really getting is an eternity in hell for helping people who murder babies.
All murder is wrong - no matter if it's the half dozen abortionists who have been murdered or the millions of babies who's murder you support by being pro-choice to murder children.
MaryHaskell1 4 months ago
@MaryHaskell1 At last check, abortion, as tragic as each one is, is still 100% LEGAL in the United States of America. Only an anti-abortion terrorist supporter like you would be so hypocritical as to state that "all murder is wrong" while simultaneously misrepresenting abortion as murder and minimizing the number and the importance of those killed in clinic bombings and outright assassinations in the name of your cause.
Bluesman63 4 months ago 12
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@Bluesman63 Assassinations are hateful, anti-life, Satanic acts constituting murder and is clearly contrary to Christian theology. It is not done in the cause of Pro-Life supporters because it is anti-life, it too is done in the cause of evil, hate, and selfishness. You obviously don't know much about what it means to be Pro-Life or a Christian. Seek Jesus.
flu42o 4 months ago
@Bluesman63 And your next check will be that it is legal to arrest Christians, throw them in jail, and throw away the key. Actually, the Bible says it will be legal to chop off their heads in the Tribulation to come. It was legal to murder and torture Jews in Europe under the rulership of the popes, and of couse during the Holocaust. But then, it WAS legal so everyone should just stop talking about it and forget it.
julieification 4 months ago
@julieification OK fine, tell ya what, Julie: I'll continue to base my comments on reason, intelligence, and the rule of law as it stands in the United States of America in the 21st century. You go ahead and base your comments on fear mongering from your book of ancient myths and superstitions and the actions of war criminals, religious fanatics, and barbarians through history.
Bluesman63 4 months ago 4
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@Bluesman63 Have you read Isaiah 53? It is on my channel. If you dare or care to, listen to it. Tell me who you think it is about.
julieification 4 months ago
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@julieification You asked "Have you read Isaiah 53? It is on my channel. If you dare or care to, listen to it. Tell me who you think it is about."
Sorry Jules, haven't read that one. I do enjoy reading fiction though, so who knows? Right now I'm still enjoying Kurt Vonnegut's "Cat's Cradle".
Bluesman63 4 months ago
@julieification You know what I can't stand about your bible, it's like a self fullfilling profecy. You are all more like your jealous hateful god, then your loving nice Jesus. You all can't wait for the end of the world that you all are literally trying to make fiction a reality. It's so sad.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
Pamela- Numbers 9:12 "They must not leave any of it (the sacrificial lamb) until morning or break any of its bones." None of Jesus' bones were broken but the 2 criminals on either side of Him were. How is this self fulfilling? Psalms 22:18 "They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture." This is exactly what the Roman guards did. (Matthew 27:35). Your real problem with the Bible is that it says there is a God who judges sin. But Jesus Christ is the only remedy for that.
julieification 4 months ago
@julieification To those of us who base our philosophies on modern science, enlightenment, and reason, there is nothing more pathetic than the desperate sputtering and flailing of deluded ideologues and fools who steadfastly refuse to give up their dedication to the pronouncements of their imaginary zombie friend.
Bluesman63 4 months ago
@julieification Guess you can't understand what I said, Revelations was written long ago and you ppl have been looking for the signs since then and when they don't happen quick enough for you, well you all make them happen thus a self fulfilling prophecy.
Lady0Pamela 3 months ago
@Lady0Pamela So tell me. How can I make Jesus take me up into the clouds? How can I make the antichrist appear on the world scene to bring about a one world govt and currency? The Bible prophesied these events. By the way, how could I have made the Jews come back to their land after being mostly dispersed since 70 AD as was foretold by the prophets of the Scriptures?
julieification 3 months ago
@julieification Seriously? You can't make Jesus take you into the clouds it ain't ever happening no matter how many dates some idget sets. One world order and trying to make us all on the same currency is happening, where do you think they got the idea for it from? The Jews going back to Israel, no you didn't make them, they are going cause the bible told them so. Self fulfilling prophecies. All this is happening cause since 70 AD some idget wrote it.
Lady0Pamela 3 months ago
@Lady0Pamela One of these days "aliens" will be blamed for my disappearance and millions of others. Did you know that Jesus Christ has appeard to MANY muslims in muslim lands? In Saudi Arabia 5000+ exmuslims are meeting in a cave for their church gatherings. Jesus led them to Himself. Jesus Christ has appeared to me and one of my daughers. You need to get on the "ARK", Jesus Christ. The flood is coming.
julieification 3 months ago
@julieification It's stuff like this that make you all sound crazy. Christians and more have been saying this bs for thousands of years and they all believe it will happen in their lifetimes till they die. Why out of all the Christians I know does Jesus show himself to you and your daughter? What makes the two of you special? Except for maybe you wanted to see him and you made yourself believe it, seeing him as he looks in his drawings. Were you able to ask him anything? I am dying to know?
Lady0Pamela 3 months ago
@Lady0Pamela Many muslims have had visions of Jesus Christ and subsequently became Christians. In Saudi Arabia over 5000 arabs meet secretly in a cave. Many of them were believers in Jesus because He had appeared to them.
julieification 3 months ago
@julieification What does this have to do with that? Is this your way of avoiding my questions... Oh muslims are turning to Jesus, ppl who once believed in Allah are your proof god exist?
Lady0Pamela 3 months ago
@Lady0Pamela I have not avoided any questions. Ask on. As for allah, yes, people are turning away from him and turning to Jesus Christ. But they are paying a dear price: their lives, their homes, their children, their jobs, etc. are all fair game in muslim lands when you turn away from allah. Jesus said "if they hate Me, they will hate you. (believers)."
julieification 3 months ago
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Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@MaryHaskell1 If you ppl are in heaven, I will gladly take hell. Except neither exist so I am good.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago 5
@Lady0Pamela Hi! I got an E-mail notification that you had replied to my comment but it was apparently removed before I was able to get to this video page. I'm very sorry that happened as I value every opinion. If you see this comment, please re-post, or if you like, you can simply visit my channel and send me a personal message through there. Peace!
Bluesman63 4 months ago
@Bluesman63 Hey Blueman, I really enjoy your comments, I meant to comment to Mary but accidently hit your comment to reply, and then upon cancelling I hit post and it was just a comment with your name in it so I removed it. Have a good day.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@Lady0Pamela OK. Pamela, I'm glad I didn't miss anything! Thanks for joining me in trying to bring common sense and reason to this comment page.
Bluesman63 4 months ago
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@Bluesman63 Intolerant hate speech and derogatory name calling on ideologues, peoples with extreme courage peacefully defending the most innocent in our society, instead of addressing ideologies on ethics and morality only undermines your argument. In fact, you sir, are a hypocrite with no argument, a bigot to state peaceful users here have no right to free speech when in fact your hate speech against Christians clearly uses that same fundamental freedom of speech. I will pray for you.
flu42o 4 months ago
@flu42o The beauty of that great double-edged sword of freedom of speech is that just as the original poster had every right to indulge in "intolerant hate speech" in casting all pro-choice people as "thugs" based on the actions of this one police officer, I have every right to call her out as a "delusional idiot".
There is nothing I have posted here that could even remotely be seen by any reasonable person as hate speech against Christians. Pray for your own soul, I'm doing just fine.
Bluesman63 4 months ago 10
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@Bluesman63 Killing Jews was LEGAL, owning and killing a slave was Legal - that doesen't make it right.
Abortion is murder, the crushing of a persons skull in the womb and the dismemberment of their body in the womb is a grossly immoral, depraved, and vicious form of murder.
Yes the killing a few abortion doctors who murdered these babies is wrong - but it's can't compare to the murder of 50 million babies.
Murdering anyone, baby in the womb or abortionist, is wrong.
MaryHaskell1 4 months ago
@MaryHaskell1 Your comment was hidden because of the intolerant views of murderers, but I say Agreed!
julieification 4 months ago
Social tension will help end abortion. Keep it up.
YesYouNeedJesus 4 months ago
@YesYouNeedJesus Nope don't need Jesus, but I woudln't mind him coming and taking all his people right now. Really getting tired of their hate, judgement, self rightous behavior,etc.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@Lady0Pamela
Wow, that's pretty judgmental of you. Hate is a good thing when it's toward evil. I hate evil and I'm proud of that.
YesYouNeedJesus 4 months ago
@YesYouNeedJesus Remember what is said, judge lest thee be judged, well you judged, now everyone can judge you. You can't be judgemental, hateful and self rightous and not expect to be treated the same. I agree I am very proud to be hateful of evil and you ppl are pure evil.
Lady0Pamela 4 months ago
@Lady0Pamela
Where do you get your standard for evil? Who decides what's evil and what's not evil in your worldview?
You said, "Remember what is said..." Are you quoting the Bible? If so, are you saying the Bible is true?
YesYouNeedJesus 4 months ago
@YesYouNeedJesus Supposedly the book is true to you, but you ppl don't know your bible and you definitly don't follow it. The bible has some good stories, and good moral beliefs in some of it. However, you ppl never really follow the parts you don't want to. I am just glad you ppl believe in it because clearly your only standard for good and descent living comes from the book and not your hearts. Without the bible you ppl would run around doing horrible things.
Lady0Pamela 3 months ago